coogar:




that's gundogan before his injury

I know for sure that he's comfortable playing any of the 3 central positions (am, cm and even dm) I see him more as a box to box midfielder

coogar:


fellaini & mata are the engine of the philosophy.

i'll miss RVP.....



his first touch here is heavenly.

I swear, I heard we are offering him plus cash for pogba, is it true?

dopeJemi:

I swear, I heard we are offering him plus cash for pogba, is it true?

i know he's leaving - the strong rumour says he's going to turkey to join sneijder & fill the void drogba left.

That is great news.
The sooner we part ways with deadweight like Falcao et al the better.
Falcao is finished and RVP is on the way to being finished also. Clear out the attack leaving maybe Rooney and get a younger and more athletic supporting cast next season

coogar:


i know he's leaving - the strong rumour says he's going to turkey to join sneijder & fill the void drogba left.

Make he dey go abeg

dopeJemi:

Make he dey go abeg

afrodoc2:

That is great news.
The sooner we part ways with deadweight like Falcao et al the better.
Falcao is finished and RVP is on the way to being finished also. Clear out the attack leaving maybe Rooney and get a younger and more athletic supporting cast next season

cheiiiiiiiiii

yet, not too long ago this dude delivered the league title almost single-handedly. united fans, na so?

coogar:




cheiiiiiiiiii

yet, not too long ago this dude delivered the league title almost single-handedly. united fans, na so?

na so o.
we have to be ruthless, na oju eje boys dey......igboro is not smiling. u no see how madrid fans dey boo ronaldo whenever he scores a brace instead of a hat trick?
we don't have to go that far but if a player is over the hill then he has to go. who is RVP? The same car that drove the guvnor, sparky, keano, ruud will also drive him to the airport

coogar:




cheiiiiiiiiii

yet, not too long ago this dude delivered the league title almost single-handedly. united fans, na so?

Lol, that was then abeg

dopeJemi:

Lol, that was then abeg

this is hilarious.

afrodoc2:

na so o.
we have to be ruthless, na oju eje boys dey......igboro is not smiling. u no see how madrid fans dey boo ronaldo whenever he scores a brace instead of a hat trick?

real madrid fans are the worst fans ever.

we don't have to go that far but if a player is over the hill then he has to go. who is RVP? The same car that drove the guvnor, sparky, keano, ruud will also drive him to the airport

but is van persie over the hill?
the new system would benefit any striker - what makes it work is the triangle on both flanks on the pitch & the ball retention of mata, herrera, carrick.

has rooney really fired since LVG found this system? apart from the goal against spurs, rooney hasn't scored as the arrow head. when he scored against villa, he was operating behind falcao......and he was the worst player at anfield.

since VP got injured, rooney has scored only 2 league goals in as many as 400 league minutes. i think we should be careful on how we handle this. VP can still be a wonderful squad player even if he cannot be a guaranteed starter anymore.

coogar:


this is hilarious.



real madrid fans are the worst fans ever.



but is van persie over the hill?
the new system would benefit any striker - what makes it work is the triangle on both flanks on the pitch & the ball retention of mata, herrera, carrick.

has rooney really fired since LVG found this system? apart from the goal against spurs, rooney hasn't scored as the arrow head. when he scored against villa, he was operating behind falcao......and he was the worst player at anfield.

since VP got injured, rooney has scored only 2 league goals in as many as 400 league minutes. i think we should be careful on how we handle this. VP can still be a wonderful squad player even if he cannot be a guaranteed starter anymore.

In an earlier post some months ago i stated how in the best scenario for me we would have rooney,RVP and falcao ALL gone next season.
however if we are to have one remain for next season, it should be rooney. he is younger, has a better fitness/injury record, more versatile and he is English plus he is captain.
What i would HATE to see next season is more than one of those 3 in the squad.

afrodoc2:

In an earlier post some months ago i stated how in the best scenario for me we would have rooney,RVP and falcao ALL gone next season.

i give it to you, you are consistent.
what about the fortune teller that told us unless we have a pawaful jones or rooney in the midfield, we would never make the top four.

however if we are to have one remain for next season, it should be rooney. he is younger, has a better fitness/injury record, more versatile and he is English plus he is captain.
What i would HATE to see next season is more than one of those 3 in the squad.

rooney is unmovable
his contract, age, image, etc guarantees that he would retire at OT. he has signed the rest of his life to man utd but i agree with the general sentiments here.

we need a boost of youthful energy in the attack. i heard cavani is LVG's favourite but i am not really sure of cavani's ability. all of a sudden, there's scarcity of top quality centre forwards in the world.

Since RVP's injury, Rooney has scored 5 goals as the sole striker. When RVP played as sole striker in the absence of Rooney and Falcao, he was only about to score 1 goal against Chelsea.

Rooney's goals since RVP's injury:
vs Sunderland 2 goals.
vs Arsenal 1 goal.
vs Tottenham 1 goal
vs Villa 1 goal.

He forced a goal against Newcastle in what could have been a goalless draw. He was heavily involved for Herrera's 2nd against Villa. Must Rooney be brought down to make a case for RVP?

Some people can lie. Where did anyone mention that Rooney and Jones have to play midfield for United to make top 4?

Any way I no get time for argument. Tomorrow on my mind.

Rooney has scored 5 goals in 6 matches as a sole striker.

Last season he averaged more than a goal per match when he played as a sole striker.

Why do people like dragging this man down? Abeg jor!

coogar:


this is hilarious.



real madrid fans are the worst fans ever.



but is van persie over the hill?
the new system would benefit any striker - what makes it work is the triangle on both flanks on the pitch & the ball retention of mata, herrera, carrick.

has rooney really fired since LVG found this system? apart from the goal against spurs, rooney hasn't scored as the arrow head. when he scored against villa, he was operating behind falcao......and he was the worst player at anfield.

since VP got injured, rooney has scored only 2 league goals in as many as 400 league minutes. i think we should be careful on how we handle this. VP can still be a wonderful squad player even if he cannot be a guaranteed starter anymore.

Rooney has scored 4 in the last 5 league games.

Coogar reeeeeallly hates Rooney. Kilode?

elampiro:
Since RVP's injury, Rooney has scored 5 goals as the sole striker. When RVP played as sole striker in the absence of Rooney and Falcao, he was only about to score 1 goal against Chelsea.

Rooney's goals since RVP's injury:
vs Sunderland 2 goals.

falcao played in this game & one of the goals was an awoof penalty.

vs Arsenal 1 goal.

not a league game.

vs Tottenham 1 goal

this was when the philosophy actually clicked. he had a decent game & scored a wonderful goal.

vs Villa 1 goal.

he was the poorest player on the pitch until the goal. he was also the poorest player of the 22 players at anfield.

He forced a goal against Newcastle in what could have been a goalless draw. He was heavily involved for Herrera's 2nd against Villa. Must Rooney be brought down to make a case for RVP?

that was after missing a CCC that ashley young provided by dragging the shot wide. no one is after rooney's life - i am just reiterating the fact that rooney isn't the reason we are playing well of late. rooney has actually performed poorer in the the 4-1-4-1 formation judging by his output against villa & liverpool.

the reason we are playing well is because rooney has been taken out of the midfield for the more technically gifted players who can pass the ball super-accurately & make more forward passes quickly rather than sending it diagonally like rooney was doing when he was in the midfield.

Fletcher Scores One For West Brom!

coogar:


i give it to you, you are consistent.
what about the fortune teller that told us unless we have a pawaful jones or rooney in the midfield, we would never make the top four.



rooney is unmovable
his contract, age, image, etc guarantees that he would retire at OT. he has signed the rest of his life to man utd but i agree with the general sentiments here.

we need a boost of youthful energy in the attack. i heard cavani is LVG's favourite but i am not really sure of cavani's ability. all of a sudden, there's scarcity of top quality centre forwards in the world.

The Serie A is suspect so any world class performances there have to be taken with a pinch of salt. cavani hasnt really set the French ligue alight but playing in unusual positions most of the time wouldnt have helped.
having said that, if we offload RVP and Falcao and get Cavani it wont be a step backward.

THE FIRST STEP HOWEVER IS THAT LVG HAS TO BE SURE IN HIS MIND WHAT FORMATION WILL BE OUR REGULAR FORMATION NEXT SEASON

Then he can acquire or let go players based on that formation

vP and Falcao should be gone already

As for replacement.... I don't want Cavani... But its true he's coming in... Sad though...

Mata,Felaini,Herrera,Rooney have cemented dia places

Janizaj will be gone for loan... Depay coming in... A midfielder (unknown)... Cb Otamendi .... Forget Bale and Ronaldo's Rumour it aint happening

A rb has been booked already

Book this space


Nani is coming back... Though he'll be a squad player... Hernandez will be sold... Henriquez will be recalled

afrodoc2:


The Serie A is suspect so any world class performances there have to be taken with a pinch of salt. cavani hasnt really set the French ligue alight but playing in unusual positions most of the time wouldnt have helped.
having said that, if we offload RVP and Falcao and get Cavani it wont be a step backward.

THE FIRST STEP HOWEVER IS THAT LVG HAS TO BE SURE IN HIS MIND WHAT FORMATION WILL BE OUR REGULAR FORMATION NEXT SEASON

Then he can acquire or let go players based on that formation

As for the formation... Ah think he'll stick to our present formation.... That's why he won't really go for traditional wide men like Bale

He chooses Depay instead

@jaykay were ave u been ur face ave been scarece here in nairaland what's haappening

JayKayMaybachz:


As for the formation... Ah think he'll stick to our present formation.... That's why he won't really go for traditional wide men like Bale

He chooses Depay instead

adewumiopeyemi:
@jaykay were ave u been ur face ave been scarece here in nairaland what's haappening

Work men.. Busy...

Looking for em cheedahs

How are you brov?

Leyqute:

Rooney has scored 4 in the last 5 league games.

Coogar reeeeeallly hates Rooney. Kilode?

that's not the point......
are we playing better because rooney is leading the attack or we are playing better cos of the technicians in the midfield?

elampiro:
Some people can lie. Where did anyone mention that Rooney and Jones have to play midfield for United to make top 4? Any way I no get time for argument. Tomorrow on my mind.

you mean you have suddenly forgotten how you ridiculed the idea of herrera & mata playing in the midfield? you had a month-long argument with sailorXY......stressing how only pawa guarantees victory in the midfield.

just to buttress your point, you cited the usage of zouma in chelsea's midfield to tame spurs in the cup final. it was however a surprise when mata & herrera(players you deemed as featherweights) destroyed spurs with a bigger scoreline and without resorting to jam-body tactics of using a pawaful destroyer.

elampawa - guilty or not guilty.

afrodoc2:

The Serie A is suspect so any world class performances there have to be taken with a pinch of salt. cavani hasnt really set the French ligue alight but playing in unusual positions most of the time wouldnt have helped. having said that, if we offload RVP and Falcao and get Cavani it wont be a step backward.

i think RVP still have a lot to give.
the only problem is his pace - he still has a better technique than any of our strikers. he could still be a decent squad player.

cavani misses more than he scores - i don't see the hype at all. i wouldn't really mind lacazette or dybala - bring back hernandez and that's a core attack unit of youth & experience.

THE FIRST STEP HOWEVER IS THAT LVG HAS TO BE SURE IN HIS MIND WHAT FORMATION WILL BE OUR REGULAR FORMATION NEXT SEASON
Then he can acquire or let go players based on that formation

he would use 4-3-3.
after this season, he has no more excuse now. he would have a long transfer window and he has now had the time to assess the whole squad. woodward has promised another £150m so LVG must deliver next season.

Am fine jay Kay I too been busy with work in office......but we thank God... I can't just wait for chelse to win the league.. mancity ave already surendered

JayKayMaybachz:


Work men.. Busy...

Looking for em cheedahs

How are you brov?

coogar:


falcao played in this game & one of the goals was an awoof penalty.



not a league game.



this was when the philosophy actually clicked. he had a decent game & scored a wonderful goal.



he was the poorest player on the pitch until the goal. he was also the poorest player of the 22 players at anfield.



that was after missing a CCC that ashley young provided by dragging the shot wide. no one is after rooney's life - i am just reiterating the fact that rooney isn't the reason we are playing well of late. rooney has actually performed poorer in the the 4-1-4-1 formation judging by his output against villa & liverpool.

the reason we are playing well is because rooney has been taken out of the midfield for the more technically gifted players who can pass the ball super-accurately & make more forward passes quickly rather than sending it diagonally like rooney was doing when he was in the midfield.

As I said, I am not here for argument. RVP was not in the games he played as a sole striker earlier in the season. Against West Brom he was more a minus 1. He missed CCC and should have passed another Mata for a tap into empty net, but RVP decided to score but shot horribly wide. These were 4-1-4-1 formations.

I am yet to see any post here attributing our good games to Rooney. o I don't know why you started this. However, Rooney has been providing an options upfront and helping to drag the defenders away from others. He doesn't just stay stagnant in front of the two central defenders or in front of the 6 yard box. His movements have been very key to providing opening for others in the 18 box area.


As for the midfield. Rooney was unlucky to play in midfield when we experimented with such players like McNair in the right back. Fellaini and Ashley Young were still injured at the time, and most importantly we played two strikers which meant the midfield was one man less. Under SAF Rooney played midfield in some matches across three seasons, and he was being likened to Scholes as we won over 90% of thlose matches. In 2012/13, when we beat Villa to reach unassailable lead for the title, Rooney was a class in the midfield. Sometimes, some players are not happy being sacrificed persistently and their performance gets affected. Rooney played in the midfield against Liverpool, Villa and Hull and scored 3 good goals before his form dropped there.

Lacazette! Now dats a striker i'd spend my money on. Pace, power, finishing, experience and still a young player as well

all these young strikers no get any guarantee o, one season is not enough assessment @ all especially if it was outside the EPL

elampiro:

As I said, I am not here for argument. RVP was not in the games he played as a sole striker earlier in the season. Against West Brom he was more a minus 1. He missed CCC and should have passed another Mata for a tap into empty net, but RVP decided to score but shot horribly wide. These were 4-1-4-1 formations.

this has always been your mistake.
you are too hung on formation without looking at the personnel in it. football is too fluid, 4-4-2 or 8-1-1 is not really relevant - the players playing it are the most important. there's no way you would have herrera, mata & carrick in a midfield and not boss a game. if we had wilson as CF in the games we have won, the results wouldn't change one jot.

I am yet to see any post here attributing our good games to Rooney. o I don't know why you started this. However, Rooney has been providing an options upfront and helping to drag the defenders away from others. He doesn't just stay stagnant in front of the two central defenders or in front of the 6 yard box. His movements have been very key to providing opening for others in the 18 box area.

well, they are indirectly saying what we are playing now should be the default formation. if it was rooney that was injured with falcao playing as CF, the story would have been RVP & rooney should be sold ASAP. the new system has actually benefitted the midfielders more than the lone striker.

As for the midfield. Rooney was unlucky to play in midfield when we experimented with such players like McNair in the right back. Fellaini and Ashley Young were still injured at the time, and most importantly we played two strikers which meant the midfield was one man less.

unlucky? nah!
you justified his inclusion in that mid girl despite the fact that he was slowing the transition of the ball. rooney would never play a straight pass to the strikers, he would lay it diagonally & run into the box to share the glory of scoring the goals.

Under SAF Rooney played midfield in some matches across three seasons, and he was being likened to Scholes as we won over 90% of thlose matches. In 2012/13, when we beat Villa to reach unassailable lead for the title, Rooney was a class in the midfield.

in the last 3 seasons under SAF, rooney was a striker or a second striker. his skill-set can never fit into the midfield. apart from the diagonal passes that slow down the attack, he is actually mediocre there. poor positional awareness, atrocious short passing ability, etc.

Sometimes, some players are not happy being sacrificed persistently and their performance gets affected. Rooney played in the midfield against Liverpool, Villa and Hull and scored 3 good goals before his form dropped there.

and that's the point.....
scoring good goals in a midfield does not necessarily mean he had good performances there. carrick doesn't score much but i would have him in my midfield than gerrard who scores regularly from the midfield. it goes beyond scoring goals.

when Rooney got a red card, he was our best striker up to that point. Then we won 1 drew 2 in his absence. Coogar, you said we avoided defeat because 'bad luck' Rooney was away.

Now we have won 5/5 EPL games in absence of 'good luck' Jona.. sorry, I meant RVP. Coogar wishes RVP should go straight to leading the line.

Coogar is nawa!







Ukwu!!!

coogar:


that's not the point......
are we playing better because rooney is leading the attack or we are playing better cos of the technicians in the midfield? .

according to Rio Ferdinard, man utd are playing better becus Rooney is leading attack..

elampiro:
when Rooney got a red card, he was our best striker up to that point. Then we won 1 drew 2 in his absence. Coogar, you said we avoided defeat because 'bad luck' Rooney was away.

no, he wasn't.....
he was shyte up until the red card. he had cost us the loss against leicester in the previous game. RVP scored in that game if my memory serves me right.

Now we have won 5/5 EPL games in absence of 'good luck' Jona.. sorry, I meant RVP. Coogar wishes RVP should go straight to leading the line.

Coogar is nawa!
Ukwu!!!

nah!
i never said RVP should walk straight back to the team. i said we should not be too quick to discard RVP in the summer cos he has so much more to offer.

Princefame1:

according to Rio Ferdinard, man utd are playing better becus Rooney is leading attack..

ferdinand is an idïot, what does he know?

without mata, fellaini, carrick & herrera in the team, rooney leading the attack would have amounted to nothing. since the change in formation. herrera & mata has scored the same number of goals as rooney in the attack & they are actually playing very well too.

I won't argue further. Your sentiment is too much. Rooney played very well in midfield not just the goals in those three or four matches. Same as under SAF when he was not scoring

Finally, we TOO played in 4-1-4-1 with Mata, Herrera, Di Maria and Fellini behind him, he never felt Rooney or Falcao could be dispensed. RVP was obviously and desperately poor.





See you tomorrow.