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Igbos Are The Most Discussed African Ethnic Group On Earth. by scoleman: 2:00pm On Apr 01, 2016
Igbos are the most discussed African Ethnic Group in the world, current developments about biafra has brought the igbos into the news, we see different threads on nairaland either bashing or celebrating the Igbos. Recently, the igbos were used to debunk the white claims on IQ supremacy, the igbos were said to be at par with the Jews and Chinese , making them one of the most intellectually gifted ethnic group in world.

http://www.unz.com/article/the-iq-gap-is-no-longer-a-black-and-white-issue/

here are some comments about the igbos IQ discussion on UNZ

"Fascinating. Real tragedy that the Igbo Biafran secession failed so badly…read some accounts and was always impressed by the degree of ingenuity on display among the Igbos. The rest of Nigeria really seems to drag them down. I’d bet on the Tutsis as another of the more intelligent groups."

"Maybe the Igbo have somewhat higher IQs than other Nigerians and there is more variation around the mean. That could explain the fairly large number of high IQ Igbos."


"Lynn’s work has been discredited and debunked numerous times, as he makes up data, and cherry picks results – so no point quoting him!

I agree with Drake above, there is massive selection for elite students from West Africa, to come to US colleges – so they are not representative of anything African. Some groups like the Ibo/Igbo of South Eastern Nigeria were rated as superior intellectually by the British, so there is no reason to believe they wouldn’t be similar today. Similar claims were made for the Tutsi of Rwanda.
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"Personally, I know a lot of Igbo who are highly educated, often physicians. I have also noticed that many have a skin tone and eye color (light brown) that one would not initially expect in West Africans. It would be ironic if their high achievement, rather than refuting the genetic hypothesis, actually ends up strengthening it!! I doubt too many researchers will be too gung-ho about trying to find out if there is a correlation between high African educational achievement and percentage of Eurasian ancestry though"

"“The hereditarian is going to argue for selective immigration of the cognitive elite ”

Personally I’m against mass immigration from any highly divergent group unless perhaps there is a critical manpower shortage – eg “We better populate Australia/USA quickly or the Chinese/Spanish will get it” sort of thing. I suspect there is an economic advantage to UK GDP per capita from Igbo immigration, but I’m not sure that makes it a good idea. For one thing, the Igbo tend to compete with and outcompete many natives. For another, more people means less space. Still, it’s a much better idea than mass immigration of many of the low-IQ, high-crime groups we do get.
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"I bet some one reading this article is going to want to trade our black natives in America for the Igbo.

This is why I think of myself as a culturalist as opposed to a racialist. Intelligence is a function not so much of genes or environment but values, attitudes, and culture.
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"I’m sure I’m drastically oversimplifying here, but traditionally, haven’t the Igbo been seen as the Ashkenazi Jews/Ismaili Muslims/Overseas Chinese of West Africa? (ie. entrepreneurial, place high value on education and cognitively demanding jobs)"

"Ryan says:
I am dumbfounded trying to wrap my head around this argument. People from the Igbo tribe are more intelligent and more successful relative to their peers regardless of whether they reside in England or Nigeria. This is evidence *against* the heritability of those traits, not in support of it?
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"@Ryan
Yes it supports heritability of those traits, but with one additional piece of data. The Igbo would have also beat the British whites if they were living in Nigeria. Their success is not just relative to their “peers”.
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Hers another discussion on Quora about Nigerians, Here we have an amazing story about a young igbo man.

https://www.quora.com/Are-Nigerians-the-smartest-people-to-walk-the-earth-Why

"[b]I don't know if Nigerians are the smartest people on earth but they sure are smart, Igbo folk in particular. To give an example; back in 1981 I was hiring staff in Warri. A young (17) Igbo fellow called Sam asked for a job. He was as short as me and very slim so not suitable for laboring work. He was totally full of beans so I hired him anyways to help me with line testing gear. Sam had had just four years of primary education. About a week in he asked me why I liked the small numbers on the test gear and did not like the big ones. So sitting there under a mangrove I explained voltage, current, Ohms law and the problem with contaminated connections. About an hour later Sam comes back with a drawing and a handful of batteries. He wanted to know whether there was a way to put the batteries in the geophones so as to push the signal through even with poor connections. I was gobsmacked. An hour after hearing of Ohm's law for the first time he'd dreamt up the concept of a pre-amplifier. I had an electronics workshop so I took Sam into it and started with the math and electronics. He lived in that lab. He went from Euclid to Leibniz in less than a month. Six weeks in he was using spectrum analysers to control inter-modulation between multiple radio transmitters. In the eleven months we worked/learnt together Sam got to about associate degree level. He set up an electronics store after.
Some damn smart folk in the Delta.[/b]"


Below are some discussions by the international community about the igbos. most of the discussions are about the beauty that abounds in igboland and also about their fair skin.

Ibo/Igbo (mixed or not)- http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TLM94PT1L849IS96D/p15
igbo's & black americans are the best looking:- http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TIQVU3DABQB0J8NQT
The Beauty of IGBO TRIBE WOMEN (NIGERIA):- http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TI06NFIMSV9QK1MA4
Are the Igbo's of Nigeria MGM mixed like African-Americans & Carribeans? :- http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/T7MF9N4TULPIM2RIN


Also a quick search on google about the igbos gives you suggestions like

igbos are the most achievers in Africa
igbos are mixed
igbos are Jewish
igbos are light skinned
igbos are hated
igbos are the richest in nigeria

Quite frankly, i find this surprising, knowing fully well that the igbos are not even celebrated in their own country due to hatred but the international community have taken note of this wonderful ethnic group who is contributing their quota to the development of world and humanity.

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Re: Igbos Are The Most Discussed African Ethnic Group On Earth. by Nobody: 2:01pm On Apr 01, 2016
Perhaps they complain the most.

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Re: Igbos Are The Most Discussed African Ethnic Group On Earth. by Stanleywaxy(m): 2:06pm On Apr 01, 2016
Even the three wise men came from the east ... Pround to be Igbo .... Igbo kwenu cheesy

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Re: Igbos Are The Most Discussed African Ethnic Group On Earth. by Nobody: 2:07pm On Apr 01, 2016
Stanleywaxy:
Even the three wise men came from the east ... Pround to be Igbo ....
Igbo kwenu cheesy

And from the land of Israel too.

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Re: Igbos Are The Most Discussed African Ethnic Group On Earth. by thesicilian: 2:16pm On Apr 01, 2016
Of course, they're a troublesome lot. I'm sure most of the discussions revolve around how to get rid of them

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Re: Igbos Are The Most Discussed African Ethnic Group On Earth. by ShegeYorubawa: 2:16pm On Apr 01, 2016
Aigbofa:

And from the land of Israel too.
e pain am! grin

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Re: Igbos Are The Most Discussed African Ethnic Group On Earth. by Nobody: 2:17pm On Apr 01, 2016
ShegeYorubawa:


e pain am! grin

Lol grin

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Re: Igbos Are The Most Discussed African Ethnic Group On Earth. by 100Cents: 2:18pm On Apr 01, 2016
No be for mouth.

Igbos are blest.

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Re: Igbos Are The Most Discussed African Ethnic Group On Earth. by omofunaab(m): 2:22pm On Apr 01, 2016
Aigbofa:


And from the land of Israel too.

Sometimes I wonder why they were chased from Israel..

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Re: Igbos Are The Most Discussed African Ethnic Group On Earth. by brize(m): 2:23pm On Apr 01, 2016
No need of talking about Sam now..... Lets talk about Uche Mefor the deputy of Nnamdi Kanu, the man Mefor did not go to any engineering school, he was never trained about engineering but he is the one fixing, connecting and maintaining all technical problems. This got to show you the level of IQ wasting in Nigeria. A british contraption

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Re: Igbos Are The Most Discussed African Ethnic Group On Earth. by Nobody: 2:25pm On Apr 01, 2016
omofunaab:


Sometimes I wonder why they were chased from Israel..

They were not chased away, they seceded and moved to south of river Niger.

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Re: Igbos Are The Most Discussed African Ethnic Group On Earth. by scoleman: 2:30pm On Apr 01, 2016
Nigerians know that the igbos are intellectually superior, even the British during the slave trade put a high price on igbo slaves for their hard work and domineering character, it was said that the British saw the igbos as intellectually superior to other African ethnic group in the present day nigeria.

We need to utilize this vast amount of man power we have in the south east, if nigeria wants to be great, Quota and ethnic/tribal preferences should be dropped at once. Igbos are nation builders, Give them the chance!

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Re: Igbos Are The Most Discussed African Ethnic Group On Earth. by scoleman: 2:32pm On Apr 01, 2016
Aigbofa:


They were not chased away, they seceded and moved to south of river Niger.


Can you please stop your bigotry, why don't you open a thread to celebrate your ethnic group, why is it that anything igbo gives you HBP.

Wat is it sef? why the hate?

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Re: Igbos Are The Most Discussed African Ethnic Group On Earth. by Nobody: 2:37pm On Apr 01, 2016
scoleman:
Nigerians know that the igbos are intellectually superior, even the British during the slave trade put a high price on igbo slaves for the hard work and domineering character, it was said that the British saw the igbos as intellectually superior to other African ethnic group in the present day nigeria.

We need to utilize this vast amount of man power we have in the south east, if nigeria wants to be great, Quota and ethnic/tribal preferences should be dropped at once. Igbos are nation builders, Give them the chance!

The idea that one group of people are intellectually superior to the other is a discredited one. Intellect is an individual characteristic. Can you solve math problems like Chike Obi just because you are Ibo?

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Re: Igbos Are The Most Discussed African Ethnic Group On Earth. by Nobody: 2:38pm On Apr 01, 2016
scoleman:



Can you please stop your bigotry, why don't you open a thread to celebrate your ethnic group, why is it that anything igbo gives you HBP.

Wat is it sef? why the hate?

What the hell are you talking about? Did I say the three wise me came from the east?
And one more thing, when you post on a public forum you don't get to choose who can comment on it.

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Re: Igbos Are The Most Discussed African Ethnic Group On Earth. by omofunaab(m): 2:43pm On Apr 01, 2016
Aigbofa:


They were not chased away, they seceded and moved to south of river Niger.

Hmmm I doubt it, what can make someone secede from Europe.. Especially when it's now igbos ..they can't secede instead they can only be deported

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Re: Igbos Are The Most Discussed African Ethnic Group On Earth. by senior123: 2:43pm On Apr 01, 2016
Igbo people SMH. That you claim to be intellectuals but you do not know that you are just a pawn in a western geo-political agenda to get you to leave Nigeria so they can enslave you.
No i am not say you are not all those things, you might or might not i dont know, but what i do know is that, western countries mean nothing well for you. The UN does not mean anything good for you. And truly speaking, when it comes down to it, the only people on earth who truly has your back is that Yoruba or Hausa man. Same goes for every other tribe.
I am so surprised that the igbos of all people's fell for the western Trick. The Hausas did not fall for it. They saw Boko Haram and shamed them for the instrument of destruction that they truly were. That single act is what kept Nigeria together. Else we have truly broken up in 2015 as the CIA predicted back in 2012 after they finished their test run on the disintegration of Nigeria.
The Igbo people should know this, We all know about the Northern dominance problem in Nigeria. And every one agrees that something should be done about it. Nigeria is the most strategic, most important country in western and chinese interest.
Now, this would work for them any how we are [broken or together] but it will only work for Nigerians if we stay together. If Biafrans go, you have simply enslaved yourselves.

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Re: Igbos Are The Most Discussed African Ethnic Group On Earth. by scoleman: 2:44pm On Apr 01, 2016
Aigbofa:


What the hell are you talking about? Did I say the three wise me came from the east?
And one more thing, when you post on a public forum you don't get to choose who can comment on it.


Mr man , your comments reeks of hate and sentiments, As an observer, i've always known you as an igbo hater so there's no need flogging this issue further, i only warned you not to provoke other igbos which will lead to derailing of this thread, Please and please open a thread about the yorubas and celebrate your ethnic group!

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Re: Igbos Are The Most Discussed African Ethnic Group On Earth. by scoleman: 2:46pm On Apr 01, 2016
Aigbofa:


The idea that one group of people are intellectually superior to the other is a discredited one. Intellect is an individual characteristic. Can you solve math problems like Chief Obi just because you are Ibo?


For your info, a certain ethnic group can have huge amounts of intellectuals amongst them compared to another ethnic group, if i may ask, why are Jewish rich? why are they mostly known for world changing inventions?

Please stop swimming in ignorance, Accept the truth for once

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Re: Igbos Are The Most Discussed African Ethnic Group On Earth. by Nobody: 2:48pm On Apr 01, 2016
scoleman:



Mr man , your comments reeks of hate and sentiments, As an observer, i've always known you as an igbo hater so there's no need flogging this issue further, i only warned you not to provoke other igbos which will lead to derailing of this thread, Please and please open a thread about the yorubas and celebrate your ethnic group!

Why don't you just chill and avoid my comments. If I write something offensive to ibos, trust the nairaland moderators to remove it. Otherwise, stay on your lane.

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Re: Igbos Are The Most Discussed African Ethnic Group On Earth. by Nobody: 2:52pm On Apr 01, 2016
scoleman:



For your info, a certain ethnic group can have huge amounts of intellectuals amongst them compared to another ethnic group, if i may ask, why are Jewish rich? why are they mostly known for world changing inventions?

Please stop swimming in ignorance, Accept the truth for once

You are the one the one swimming in ignorance. You have just validated white supremacists who consider all black people stupid.
It is beneath me to argue such a dumb topic with you.

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Re: Igbos Are The Most Discussed African Ethnic Group On Earth. by scoleman: 3:01pm On Apr 01, 2016
senior123:
Igbo people SMH. That you claim to be intellectuals but you do not know that you are just a pawn in a western geo-political agenda to get you to leave Nigeria so they can enslave you.
No i am not say you are not all those things, you might or might not i dont know, but what i do know is that, western countries mean nothing well for you. The UN does not mean anything good for you. And truly speaking, when it comes down to it, the only people on earth who truly has your back is that Yoruba or Hausa man. Same goes for every other tribe.
I am so surprised that the igbos of all people's fell for the western Trick. The Hausas did not fall for it. They saw Boko Haram and shamed them for the instrument of destruction that they truly were. That single act is what kept Nigeria together. Else we have truly broken up in 2015 as the CIA predicted back in 2012 after they finished their test run on the disintegration of Nigeria.
The Igbo people should know this, We all know about the Northern dominance problem in Nigeria. And every one agrees that something should be done about it. Nigeria is the most strategic, most important country in western and chinese interest.
Now, this would work for them any how we are [broken or together] but it will only work for Nigerians if we stay together. If Biafrans go, you have simply enslaved yourselves.

spare me those western conspiracy theories, if i may ask what is working in nigeria, Are we truly one? can you call nigeria a nation? do you have patriotic citizen among the igbos? Even if you have, are all igbos happy to be called a Nigerian? how can you marginalize a certain ethnic group and expect them to swallow it and keep quiet, how can you call Lagos that was built with oil money gotten from the eastern region a yoruba only land, it was a former capital hence it is nobody's land, the same is applicable to abuja but because Lagos is located in the southwest, the yorubas decided to say Lagos was built by them with cocoa money forgetting that most of the bridges and roads we see in Lagos were built after the oil boom, they even went as far as threatening to throw the igbos into the lagoon and also protesting, carrying placards saying, igbos leave our land, lagos is yorubaland, igbos this, igbos that.

if i may ask, were these constructions listed below built with Cocoa money?

Third mainland bridge
carter bridge
Festac Town
Satellite Town
Tin Can Island
National theatre Iganmu
National Stadium Surulere
Federal offices
Julius Berger Built road

Yet some people will say, Lagos have been developed since time immemorial, since Lagos have been developed, what happened to the regional capital IBADAN, why is she still under developed.

Pure lies and hypocrisy!!!

Remember that brick and mortar last for a short while, so give Lagos 20 years without the igbos/easterners who contribute tremendously to the IGR and growth of lagos it will crumble or remain as it is now.

Where is the ancient Babylonian capital today? In ruins



We are not one Abegi, Nigeria works for some section of the country, not for everyone.

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Re: Igbos Are The Most Discussed African Ethnic Group On Earth. by scoleman: 3:06pm On Apr 01, 2016
Aigbofa:


You are the one the one swimming in ignorance. You have just validated white supremacists who consider all black people stupid.
It is beneath me to argue such a dumb topic with you.

I laugh at you, you either accept the truth or swim in ignorance!

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Re: Igbos Are The Most Discussed African Ethnic Group On Earth. by Nobody: 3:08pm On Apr 01, 2016
scoleman:


spare me those western conspiracy theories, if i may ask what is working in nigeria, Are we truly one? can you call nigeria a nation? do you have patriotic citizen among the igbos? Even if you have, are all igbos happy to be called a Nigerian? how can you marginalize a certain ethnic group and expect them to swallow it and keep quiet, how can you call Lagos that was built with oil money gotten from the eastern region a yoruba only land, it was a former capital hence it is nobody's land, the same is applicable to abuja but because Lagos is located in the southwest, the yorubas decided to say Lagos was built by them with cocoa money forgetting that most of the bridges and roads we see in Lagos was built after the oil boom, they even went as far as threatening the igbos by throwing them into the lagoon and also protesting, carrying placards saying, igbos this, igbos that.

if i may ask, were these constructions listed below built with Cocoa money?

Third mainland bridge
carter bridge
Festac Town
Satellite Town
Tin Can Island
National theatre Iganmu
National Stadium Surulere
Federal offices
Julius Berger Built road

Yet some people will say, Lagos have been developed since time immemorial, since Lagos have been developed, what happened to the regional capital IBADAN, why is she still under developed.

Pure lies and hypocrisy!!!

Remember that brick and mortar last for a short while, so give Lagos 20 years without the igbos/easterners who contribute tremendously to the IGR and growth of lagos it will crumble or remain as it is now.

Where is the ancient Babylonian capital today? In ruins



We are not one Abegi, Nigeria works for some section of the country, not for everyone.

What exactly is your fixation with Lagos? Why don't you simply leave as you threatened and watch Lagos crumble?
Even if Lagos was developed with oil money how much of that money was yours?

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Re: Igbos Are The Most Discussed African Ethnic Group On Earth. by scoleman: 3:10pm On Apr 01, 2016
Aigbofa:


What exactly is your fixation with Lagos? Why don't you simply leave as you threatened and watch Lagos crumble?
Even if Lagos was developed with oil money how much of that money was yours?

Well, i was only making a point.

When you see the truth, tell it as it is. Stop twisting history, because when history is documented it becomes hard to twist and that is what some of you don't understand. I don't wish Lagos or Yoruba's bad, i'm just stating the truth.

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Re: Igbos Are The Most Discussed African Ethnic Group On Earth. by Nobody: 3:15pm On Apr 01, 2016
scoleman:


Well, i was only making a point.

When you see the truth, tell it as it is. Stop twisting history, because when history is documented it becomes hard to twist and that is what some of you don't understand. I don't wish Lagos or Yoruba's bad, i'm just stating the truth.

The truth is that your are not a Jew, and even if you are one, that does not make you smarter than anyone else.

The other truth is that ibos did not contribute more than other Nigerians to the development of Lagos.

One other truth is that if you leave Lagos, others will take your place and the city will certainly become neater.

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Re: Igbos Are The Most Discussed African Ethnic Group On Earth. by junketer(m): 3:16pm On Apr 01, 2016
As usual the yorubas don full here to run the igbos down. Thing is no matter what they do or say, they cannot deny the fact that igbos bring development to anywhere they go. Haters everywhere.

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Re: Igbos Are The Most Discussed African Ethnic Group On Earth. by scoleman: 3:24pm On Apr 01, 2016
Aigbofa:


The truth is that your are not a Jew, and even if you are one, that does not make you smarter than anyone else.

The other truth is that ibos did not contribute more than other Nigerians to the development of Lagos.

One other truth is that if you leave Lagos, others will take your place and the city will certainly become neater.


Nope that is not the truth, That is your truth, there is a difference

No ethnic group collectively can replicate what the igbo nation has done in nigeria, i repeat NONE!

Can you relocate to the north and build houses, develop markets, and even develop the federal capital territory from scratch?
can your ethnic group lead in the informal sector? Lol, these are gifts, you cant just achieve all of these things like that. the igbos are superior in these areas, That is the truth, you can as well call it "my truth", i'm not forcing you to accept it but when a thousand agree with what i've said compared to just a hundred against it, then you should know which is the truth.

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Re: Igbos Are The Most Discussed African Ethnic Group On Earth. by Nobody: 3:31pm On Apr 01, 2016
scoleman:



Nope that is not the truth, That is your truth, there is a difference

No ethnic group collectively can replicate what the igbo nation has done in nigeria, i repeat NONE!

Can you relocate to the north and build houses, develop markets, and even develop the federal capital territory from scratch?
can your ethnic group lead in the informal sector? Lol, these are gifts, you cant just achieve all of these things like that. the igbos are superior in these areas, That is the truth, you can as well call it "my truth", i'm not forcing you to accept it but when a thousand agree with what i've said compared to just a hundred against it, then you should know which is the truth.

You are deluding yourself my dear ibo supremacist. Yorubas were living in the North before ibos knew there were humans living there, and that is the truth.

It was the war and lack of land that made migration more widespread than others, nothing else.

The "baba Oro" from Kwara was trading with Taiwan and Japan long before China became a new thing for ibos. Not trying to put you down but that is also the truth.

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Re: Igbos Are The Most Discussed African Ethnic Group On Earth. by omenka(m): 3:32pm On Apr 01, 2016
Osama Bin Laden was the most discussed person in the world before he died. cheesy

"IQ compared to the Jews". Rotflmao!! gringrin

Na wa oo. cheesy

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Re: Igbos Are The Most Discussed African Ethnic Group On Earth. by scoleman: 3:36pm On Apr 01, 2016
Assuming Enugu was made capital tomorrow, and igbos start saying it is igboland, do you think nigerians will be happy to spend their taxpayer's /Oil money developing the so called "igboland"

when they keep saying Lagos was developed by cocoa, i just shake my head. Such wickedness, when they were busy developing the former capital with proceeds from crude oil, did any easterner say it is our oil, it belongs to us! this shows how united we are.

Do you think cocoa would have built the third mainland bridge and at the same time take care of other national/regional needs? Never, it is impossible.

it was that bridge that spurred the growth you see in Lagos today, Take it or leave it but yet some people will call it their own land

Chai , we are united in deceit. when oil finish, we go see the true colors of every ethnic group claiming to be a Nigerian.

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Re: Igbos Are The Most Discussed African Ethnic Group On Earth. by Nobody: 3:42pm On Apr 01, 2016
scoleman:
Assuming Enugu was made capital tomorrow, and igbos start saying it is igboland, do you think nigerians will be happy to spend their taxpayer's money developing the so called "igboland"

when they keep saying Lagos was developed by cocoa, i just shake my head. Such wickedness, when they were busy developing the former capital with proceeds from crude oil, did any easterner say it is our oil, it belongs to us! this shows how united we are.

Do you think cocoa would have built the third mainland bridge and at the same time take care of other national/regional needs? Never, it is impossible.

it was that bridge that spurred the growth you see in Lagos today, Take it or leave it but yet some people will call it their own land

Chai , we are united in deceit. when oil finish, we go see the true colors of every ethnic group claiming to be a Nigerian.

You are twisting the narrative, Yorubas have never complained about about others living amongst them, be they ibo or European.
When you start boasting that you developed Lagos, you cannot blame others for refuting your tall stories.

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