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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by IamLEGEND1: 4:20pm On Aug 14, 2017
SIRcumalot:
Said the same thing on the book thread awhile back when people puzzled out R+L=J

I kinda always wished rhaegear raped lyanna.it isn't enough justification for how everything went down since but the motive we can understand.
If he was going to set aside his wife why all this cloak and dagger stuff?
Both of them suppose they roast for the deepest part of that seven hell we hear so much about.
Cc: Yonce
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Nihilist: 4:22pm On Aug 14, 2017
IamLEGEND1:
Trust me, i hated those fuckerz as much as the next person.
All I'm saying is nuking them showed Cersei's willingness to go to extreme extremes not so far removed from the mad King in his day.

Stop making these poor excuses .

The latest episodes literally draws parallels between Danaerys and the mad king.

Her actions with the tarlys concerned varys and tyrion enough to discuss specifically keeping those tendencies in check

Danaerys is just as brutal and ruthless as Cersei, which is is perfectly fine given the period setting.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Gbola5(m): 4:23pm On Aug 14, 2017
Yonce !

Keep in mind, should Robert's war have never happened, or rather should Westeros know of Rhaegar setting aside Elia Martell( His marriage to Lyanna wasn't going to be a secret for long.) it would lead to more conflict.
-Dorne wouldn't take this lightly.
-It sets Aegon, Elia's son, against Jon for the Iron Throne : Dorne against the North. The North have an alliance with the Vale, the Stormlands, the Riverlands. Dorne could form an alliance with Houses Tyrell and Lannister(because Aerys set aside Cersei to spite Tywin). Either way a way will still ensue.
-Coupled with Rhaegar already planning to dethrone his father.
-Coupled with the Mad King's paranoia.
Surely our dear Rhaegar thought of all of this. I mean why let the country side burn ? - Because he read about a prophecy from a book.

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by TheKingIsHere: 4:24pm On Aug 14, 2017
Eick:


LOL quite a response. So Jaime asking who the father was means he isnt happy? It didn't mean anything else? Wow your powers of deductions are lengendary.

Concerning the bolded part, here again your legendary skills of deduction are at it again. Did I say you were completely wrong? I asked if thats the only thing you picked in the episode that confirms Jon heritage? Forgeting the big reveal towards the end. Chia! You are truly Legendary making me explain my question again as if I asked in doraki.

Concerning Berics purpose, again here you are struggling with English, But anyhow sha let me help you. Berics purpose as you stated before, isnt limited to just one thing. Do you get it now?

And lastly I can't bend the knee to you. Wetin you get way 1 fear me. Well thats if am Ignoring your ability to understand stuff then that would be truly scary.

And concerning the Lannister army you didn't answer my question.

Jamie has not been happy about the relationship with his sister for sometime. He didn't want to be seen by the maid servant who knocked on the door when cersei answered in episode 3. So why will he be happy that his sister who is hell bent on letting the world know that they both have a child out of incest? Na wa for una o.

I would post Jamie's expression once the network is good. You will then tell me if it is a happy face or not.

As for your own bolded, your own legendary skills of deduction is epic. Go back to my quote and pin point the part where I said that you were wrong? Also, if there was a big reveal, why don't you tell us. Why wait for me to tell you? I gave my own summary, you can do same and give yours.

As for beric part, I believe that you have the issue of comprehension not me. Did you see the part where I said that it is ONE of the plans that the Lord of light have for him? I guess not.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Gbola5(m): 4:25pm On Aug 14, 2017
SIRcumalot:
Said the same thing on the book thread awhile back when people puzzled out R+L=J

I kinda always wished rhaegear raped lyanna.it isn't enough justification for how everything went down since but the motive we can understand.
If he was going to set aside his wife why all this cloak and dagger stuff?
Both of them suppose they roast for the deepest part of that seven hell we hear so much about.

This made me smile. Marriage or no, he isn't justified.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by TheKingIsHere: 4:31pm On Aug 14, 2017
IamLEGEND1:
Baba you're still on this matter?
I guess Randyll Tarly refused to bend to the knee to dany out of fear too.

Again with the Sansa fans thing?
You need to get better at reading facial expressions.
I'm tired of this back-and-forth with you.....say something reasonable or try the next person.

The problem with you guys is that you don't read people's comments properly before jumping to conclusions.

Now this is my post:

1. The Lannister's soldiers are a bunch of sissies. After watching dickon tarley and his father get burnt alive by drogon, they quickly bent a knee. Some were ready to prostrate sef. Lol.

Didnt you see me say after dickon and his father got burnt? I guess not. You should be the one that should try and say something reasonable.

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by JhyMedex: 4:35pm On Aug 14, 2017
AryaSand:

Lol! The fear of He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named is the beginning of Sherubawon.
me b thinking am how radar already wit d oda thread...grin..
Cld jst. b me being paranoid..grin..
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by TheKingIsHere: 4:36pm On Aug 14, 2017
Gbola5:


Good to know. Should Dany should give Jon her armies and dragons now ?
I believe dany is still not yet convinced that white walkers exist.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by JhyMedex: 4:37pm On Aug 14, 2017
Magnifico2000:
Its been long i saw ur post here. Wattappnd?
grin..Magnifico.. Exams happened o.. grin..
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Rubyventures: 4:39pm On Aug 14, 2017
TheKingIsHere:


The problem with you guys is that you don't read people's comments properly before jumping to conclusions.

Now this is my post:

1. The Lannister's soldiers are a bunch of sissies. After watching dickon tarley and his father get burnt alive by drogon, they quickly bent a knee. Some were ready to prostrate sef. Lol.

Didnt you see me say after dickon and his father got burnt? I guess not. You should be the one that should try and say something reasonable.

Even the Dothrakis told Tyrion that his people cant fight, Jamie also told Cercei that their fighting looked more like a sport.

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by TheKingIsHere: 4:40pm On Aug 14, 2017
Yonce:



I disagree, both sisters have always had a terse relationship from thweget-go. After six years with both haven been through a lot, Sansa feels like the only person who's really changed. Arya is still Arya, she just has better fighting skills now.

This is why I keep reiterating that Arya could never have survived living with either the Lannisters or the Boltons. Exceptional fighting skills isn't enough to play the game.

One fact is that despite both sisters had tensed relationship in the past, they still knew themselves very well. That's why Sansa knew immediately where Arya went when the guards informed her about Arya's arrival. Same thing for Arya to know what Sansa is thinking.

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by IamLEGEND1: 4:41pm On Aug 14, 2017
Nihilist:

Stop making these poor excuses .
The latest episodes literally draws parallels between Danaerys and the mad king.
Her actions with the tarlys concerned varys and tyrion enough to discuss specifically keeping those tendencies in check
Danaerys is just as brutal and ruthless as Cersei, which is is perfectly fine given the period setting.
I am well aware of that. I think you mistake me for a danaerys fan. I argue for the merits of both sides.
Like varys clearly stated, Dany is teetering on the edge & good counsel is all that is keeping Dany from turning into her father.....
Qyburn on the other hand.... Well let's just say if Cersei rang him up at midnight and asked him to burn down an orphanage in fleabottom with wildfire....

'How big an explosion do you want? your grace' is his most likely reply.
In case you're in doubt,This is my comment from earlier.

Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by IamLEGEND1: 4:50pm On Aug 14, 2017
TheKingIsHere:

The problem with you guys is that you don't read people's comments properly before jumping to conclusions.
Now this is my post:
1. The Lannister's soldiers are a bunch of sissies. After watching dickon tarley and his father get burnt alive by drogon, they quickly bent a knee. Some were ready to prostrate sef. Lol.
Didnt you see me say after dickon and his father got burnt? I guess not. You should be the one that should try and say something reasonable.
So you think soldiers standing in front of a big ass dragon and still refusing to bend the knee are doing so out of fear?
Fear of what exactly? Believe me, any fear Cersei might strike in them is nowhere near the dread of standing in front of a fire-breathing beast long thought to be extinct that could turn you to ashes in a few seconds.

I'd say they did it out of obligation but I know without question that Only loyalty could make them hold out for as long as they did.

So, your argument is invalid.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by borntosuccess(m): 4:51pm On Aug 14, 2017
its certain cersi would lose dat pregnancy
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Yonce(f): 4:57pm On Aug 14, 2017
Gbola5:
Yonce !

Keep in mind, should Robert's war have never happened, or rather should Westeros know of Rhaegar setting aside Elia Martell( His marriage to Lyanna wasn't going to be a secret for long.) it would lead to more conflict.
-Dorne wouldn't take this lightly.
-It sets Aegon, Elia's son, against Jon for the Iron Throne : Dorne against the North. The North have an alliance with the Vale, the Stormlands, the Riverlands. Dorne could form an alliance with Houses Tyrell and Lannister(because Aerys set aside Cersei to spite Tywin). Either way a way will still ensue.
-Coupled with Rhaegar already planning to dethrone his father.
-Coupled with the Mad King's paranoia.
Surely our dear Rhaegar thought of all of this. I mean why let the country side burn ? - Because he read about a prophecy from a book.


But we don't know very much about his reasons for divorcing Elia?! Maybe it was the prophesy or maybe he genuinely fell for Lyanna. Maybe it was the Westeros version of Romeo and Juilet. cheesy
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Nihilist: 4:58pm On Aug 14, 2017
IamLEGEND1:
I am well aware of that. I think you mistake me for a danaerys fan. I argue for the merits of both sides.
Like varys clearly stated, Dany is teetering on the edge & good counsel is all that is keeping Dany from turning into her father.....
Qyburn on the other hand.... Well let's just say if Cersei rang him up at midnight and asked him to burn down an orphanage in fleabottom with wildfire....

'How big an explosion do you want? your grace' is his most likely reply.
In case you're in doubt,This is my comment from earlier.


I'm still failing to see how Danaerys is not as brutal as Cersei to her enemies.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by IamLEGEND1: 5:04pm On Aug 14, 2017
Nihilist:

I'm still failing to see how Danaerys is not as brutal as Cersei to her enemies.
The answer is mercy.
or at least the willingness to extend an olive branch.
#DazAll

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Yonce(f): 5:06pm On Aug 14, 2017
Gbola5:


There were lords and ladies of the court present there as well. You read the books, haven't you ? What irks me is how Randyll Tarly still flocks over to her side after this.


Could be out of fear, personally I won't want to fight against Cersei, she's mad enough.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by kay9(m): 5:13pm On Aug 14, 2017
Gbola5:
Yonce !

Keep in mind, should Robert's war have never happened, or rather should Westeros know of Rhaegar setting aside Elia Martell( His marriage to Lyanna wasn't going to be a secret for long.) it would lead to more conflict.
-Dorne wouldn't take this lightly.
-It sets Aegon, Elia's son, against Jon for the Iron Throne : Dorne against the North. The North have an alliance with the Vale, the Stormlands, the Riverlands. Dorne could form an alliance with Houses Tyrell and Lannister(because Aerys set aside Cersei to spite Tywin). Either way a way will still ensue.
-Coupled with Rhaegar already planning to dethrone his father.
-Coupled with the Mad King's paranoia.
Surely our dear Rhaegar thought of all of this. I mean why let the country side burn ? - Because he read about a prophecy from a book.

Basically another Dance of Dragons.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Nihilist: 5:17pm On Aug 14, 2017
IamLEGEND1:
The answer is mercy.
or at least the willingness to extend an olive branch.
#DazAll

What mercy?

Are you kidding me?

Dude you have much of a point as a blunt pencil.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Yonce(f): 5:23pm On Aug 14, 2017
TheKingIsHere:


One fact is that despite both sisters had tensed relationship in the past, they still knew themselves very well. That's why Sansa knew immediately where Arya went when the guards informed her about Arya's arrival. Same thing for Arya to know what Sansa is thinking.

It's one thing to suspect what your sister is thinking, it's another thing to gloat about it like a know-it-all undecided
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Nobody: 5:27pm On Aug 14, 2017
IamLEGEND1:
o.K, fine. I'll let you kill Sansa too.
I can't kill my sister. Whoop her behind, Yes but I can't kill her. Father would hate that.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by raumdeuter: 5:33pm On Aug 14, 2017
Nihilist:
Also am I the only one that dislikes how the plot is setting the stage for a split between Jamie and Cersei?
Every Time Cersei says anything, Jamie looks at her like she's mad.
It's annoying, because Cerseis logic is absolutely sound, and her arguments and positions make sense.

I disagree with this. Cersei isnt being logical, she is impulsive and not calculating. Jamie is the reasonable one especially with this current war

Fire for fire, Danearys beats them hands down, currently its Dany's unwillingness to exert the full power of her forces thats saving Cersei. So Cersei suggesting getting more mercenaries and more troops is senseless against someone who has significant more power

Dany has a nuclear weapon, has people who are better fighters than Cerseis army or even the mercenaries she is planning to get. Jamie has been to war and warned her this is not a frontal war. It can only be won with deception and guile

The best thing in this case is to lure Daenarys into thinking she has won while they perfect their ways of killing those dragons. that at least even the battle a little

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by IamLEGEND1: 5:36pm On Aug 14, 2017
Nihilist:

What mercy?
Are you kidding me?
Dude you have much of a point as a blunt pencil.
mah niggah Now I'm beginning to think you're just arguing blindly If you really think Danaerys doesn't show compassion when necessary. For all of Dany's bloated ego and overwhelming power, she has shown a surprising amount of restraint.

Ask yourself this question and answer as honestly as you can: How long do you think GoT would've lasted if Cersei was the one with dragons?

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by IamLEGEND1: 5:45pm On Aug 14, 2017
AryaSand:

I can't kill my sister. Whoop her behind, Yes but I can't kill her. Father would hate that.
oh, so that icy heart does have a pulse.
Perhaps a few more months with Jaqen h'ghar then?
I'm sure he'll be delighted to have you back washing corpses again.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Nihilist: 5:47pm On Aug 14, 2017
raumdeuter:


I disagree with this. Cersei isnt being logical, she is impulsive and not calculating. Jamie is the reasonable one especially with this current war

Fire for fire, Danearys beats them hands down, currently its Dany's unwillingness to exert the full power of her forces thats saving Cersei. So Cersei suggesting getting more mercenaries and more troops is senseless against someone who has significant more power

Dany has a nuclear weapon, has people who are better fighters than Cerseis army or even the mercenaries she is planning to get. Jamie has been to war and warned her this is not a frontal war. It can only be won with deception and guile

The best thing in this case is to lure Daenarys into thinking she has won while they perfect their ways of killing those dragons. that at least even the battle a little

Jamie made this exact point to her.

Cersei asked him what he would rather do - give up power and possibly get killed, or fight and even if the lose, the died trying.

She also mentioned that they have to fight cleverly, rather than outrightly.

The fact of the matter is that Danaerys with her huge army might win the war for territory, but lose the battle for hearts and minds - which is exactly why she hasn't invaded. Cersei knows this.

Worst case scenario, Cersei goes into exile and continues to fund insurgency with the gold meant for the iron bank.

Lord Tarly made the case very clear in his speech to Danaerys - You're a foreigner, at the head of a savage Horde. As bad as Cersei is, i'd rather die serving her than bend the knee to you.

The only way Danaerys can keep the population docile if she invades today, is under the threat of barbeque.

That resistance to foreign invasion is major ammo in Cersei's arsenal and she knows it. She can continue to fight against against Danaerys in her position as the bastion against the foreign interlopers, and her people will continue to back her. I mean Tyrion said all of this at the start of the season na?

Danaerys only other option is to negotiate treaties, or fry everybody in kings landing and rule over the ashes.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Nihilist: 5:49pm On Aug 14, 2017
IamLEGEND1:
mah niggah Now I'm beginning to think you're just arguing blindly If you really think Danaerys doesn't show compassion when necessary. For all of Dany's bloated ego and overwhelming power, she has shown a surprising amount of restraint.

Ask yourself this question and answer as honestly as you can: How long do you think GoT would've lasted if Cersei was the one with dragons?

Danaerys is just as brutal to her enemies. She has crucified some thousands ,and roasted some more.

Accept this or shift let me see road.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by blingxx(m): 5:57pm On Aug 14, 2017
so no one is talking about the Martel's that euron captured ...issokay ..even cersei no get their time again
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by kenturkish(m): 5:58pm On Aug 14, 2017
TheKingIsHere:
I believe dany is still not yet convinced that white walkers exist.
She believes they exist
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by marylandcakes: 5:59pm On Aug 14, 2017
Jame: "who would you say is the father?
Cerci: "you"
Jamie: "people wouldn't like it"
Cerci: "remember what father used to say"
Jamie: " the lion doesn't concern its self with the opinions of the sheep "

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Stegomiah: 5:59pm On Aug 14, 2017
Nihilist:


Stop making these poor excuses .

The latest episodes literally draws parallels between Danaerys and the mad king.

Her actions with the tarlys concerned varys and tyrion enough to discuss specifically keeping those tendencies in check

Danaerys is just as brutal and ruthless as Cersei, which is is perfectly fine given the period setting.

I agree with all you said above especially at the bolded

The first thing i said when she burnt the tarlys generation was why the double standard

Because they refused to bend the knee
But I remember John Snow is yet to bend the knee and never will

But she didn't punish him..... In fact she's in love with him
And she had this kinda mixed/ambivalent feeling when john was patting drogon
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by blingxx(m): 6:00pm On Aug 14, 2017
Nihilist:


Stop making these poor excuses .

The latest episodes literally draws parallels between Danaerys and the mad king.

Her actions with the tarlys concerned varys and tyrion enough to discuss specifically keeping those tendencies in check

Danaerys is just as brutal and ruthless as Cersei, which is is perfectly fine given the period setting.

they is a huge difference btw cersei and dany .... cersei is f*cking insane

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