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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 1:33pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
forgiveness: Question mark on Tiago. I would like to replace him with Dominic Iorfa, I'm going to watch Dom play against Burton Albion in a few weeks see Hope Akpan, and I'll give my opinion conclusivey then. Yes I'll put my foot in it for once publicly. One addition Seyi Ojo as left wing back? Leave out Echiejile his time is over One other question Is Mikel Agu better than Tega Onomah? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 1:35pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Mickael2:You used the fact that they could field different players to underscore your point and I'm pointing it out that that rich pool of players (which make these coaches look so good tactically) is the result of careful planning. And how did Klinsmann fare when he went to America? You are now using them to compare with Rohr who just came in last year. Have you given Rohr the benefit of the time Leow has or Westerhof had on the job? The Germans can field a second team or even 3rd team because Klinsmann introduced the idea of an alternative B team. You can change when you have plenty clothes and you'd look fine. But the man with few clothes would make do with what he has. Does Rohr have the luxury of such a pool of talent? And when he fielded a young team against South Africa and we lost did we take it as part of the process of building? No! In sum, I don't think Klinsmann and Leow are the kind of Coaches you should compare to Rohr in terms of tactical ability unless you give to Rohr the tools at the disposal of the Germans and if he fails then you can zero him out. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 1:36pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
forgiveness:names,name the better players |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Fringes(m): 1:38pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
kennysville: This is the deepest of intelligent contributions I have read on this thread in the last 30minutes. You wrote the like someone who is very thoughtful and I would like to speak with you in person, if you wouldn't mind. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 1:38pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
boss i tire but forgiveness keeps trolling us by adding his name komekn: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:42pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
komekn: You have just said it well again. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 1:45pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Mickael2:Guy rookie no be rookie. Did you see how Aina- a rookie at the international level- took to the field like a duck to water? 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:51pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
jihday: Rohr has done it, even during games unless you are saying Rohr is not coaching international football. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Fringes(m): 1:52pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
kennysville: It didn't start in Brazil. In USA 94, the Italians, after falling one goal behind very early - and the world had woken up to learn the Nigerian?African unusual style of physical and beautiful play, simply - and tactically - ensured that Amokachi and Amuneke were injured and substituted very early in the game. They got no red cards on their way to achieving this. Zola, who was red-carded (and they still beat us anyway!) much later in the game, earned the red for a totally unrelated occurrence. Of course, Thompson Oliha, of blessed memory, and my big friend, Mutiu Adepoju who came in for the Nigerian wingers were no perfect matches for the Bull and the flying left winger in Amokachi and Amuneke respectively. That left Rashidi Yekini (God rest his soul) all alone with an Italian Mafia defence, Rashidi could only huff and puff without any results. I have watched that game over and again and even protested about it on FIFA.com! Yekini was so disillusioned that when now-Chelsea FC Chief, Mike Emenalo, playing as a left back in place of Benedict Iroha and donning jersey 19, eventually cut through from the left and made Yekini a marvelous pass from heaven in the late stages of the second half of extra time, with Nigeria 2-1 down and facing exit from the World Cup, Baba Yekini apparently had forgotten how to take a hot shot first time and blast it into the yapping net. He attempted to 'dress' the ball first to get into a more comfortable shooting position. That was the end of the story. You don't try that in the face of a storm. The Italian defence recovered in a twinkle of a second and snuffed Yekini and danger out. The Super Eagles crashed and Nigeria's maiden World Cup appearance came to a stuttering end. NIGERIA was later named the second most entertaining team at the USA 94 Mundial, second only to eventual champions, Brazil. I understand Yekini was awarded something for "Best Behaved Player" at that World Cup. I am not sure. Bottom line: Europe would NEVER EVER allow Africa to have the best opportunities that can stand in their way. For as long as our players continue to seek 'greener pastures' in Europe for the lucre, and our local leagues are nothing to write home about in terms of officiating and organisation, we would never rule the world of football - and global success in the game of football MAY continue to be a mirage. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 1:53pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
i can understand rohr's mindset in bringing agu on to shore things up in the midfield but hasn't quite delivered. any player we bring in should be better or have similar quality to what we have at present. sorry agu doesn't tick those boxes for me yet. as a case in point do you remember the first leg in zambia? when in the second half they were all over us esiti came in and completely neutralized them and calmed the game. that's the kind of new quality i desire in the national team edi287: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:53pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
komekn: Apart from Awaziem who is currently doing well in the French League (though I want to see him play against Algeria before I make my mind on him), the rest are not good enough save Musa(if he starts playing regularly). However, I totally agree with you on Obagoal. I hope he gets a lone move to EPL or an elite league in Europe. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:53pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Icon4s: Both of us have pointed that also. I have repeatedly hammered Iheanacho should study Firmino and try to drop deep when he is marked tightly to evade the markers. However, the point is why is it people are so easy to criticise Nacho and find it hard to criticise the likes of Ighalo. Ighalo had a poor game but the epistle is still Iheanacho. That is why I say lots of the criticism are biased and flawed. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Fringes(m): 1:54pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: Bro, we meet here again. Still expectant. Safarigirl is now in the crib. Spoke to Terzum. I think Mujtahida and Humility017 would make excellent additions. What do you think? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:55pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Icon4s: What about taking off Etebo or Onazi who were woeful with their passes and putting Iwobi on that position? Rohr made the wrong call because he did nothing to sort the lack of supplies. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:57pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Fringes: Great addition to the group. The more our voices are heard, the louder our cries and possibly a chance to make the much needed changes our football. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:58pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Mujtahida: Why must you have me? Let me run away from your cage. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 1:59pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Oasis007:On your first paragraph: have you not heard or experienced those average students in Nigeria who go to the UK and get first class? How come? What happened? I'm not saying Rohr is average or not. I am saying comparing him with others like Klinsmann or Leow is not it.(you didn't mention Klinsmann and Leow sha) Ogu has been more like a fan on the bench. If he misses this World Cup again like he did 2014 he will madt oo. Biko 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 2:00pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
forgiveness:Very. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 2:02pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
chrisooblog: you just said we dominated through JJ, how then did I goof by saying that Westerhof produced a team that could dominate any african team. Simple question, did we dominate Zambia or not? For like 90% of the game 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 2:02pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
signz:I might want to say yes, bit then I suck at comparisons. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:03pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Icon4s: I think you misunderstood me. Rohr opting to defend and play conservative against Cameroon (2nd leg) showed lack of tactical depth of Rohr. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Fringes(m): 2:05pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: I need you to help speak with all the quality people you know and have a good relationship with. I really dislike the cold shoulder I have received over time from so many folks. I "chased" you, for example, for nearly eight months! I understand the reasons though. People can be quite reluctant to talk to totally new people and give up the freedom to be totally unknown, a feature NL offers. The sad part is that I believe Europeans monitor this thread while our own chiefs may have no idea of the enormity of options and suggestions you guys put up regularly here. In addition, folks who join us wouls also be able to channel their passion directly to source, and would also have a clearer idea of what our issues really are. Meanwhile, I am still expecting the alternative # you spoke to me about. We must make the right calls at/to/around the ears of the right people. I have had to create time to write on this thread a little more than I may have wanted while we try to get the people we want to join us. Once we complete that, I would be back to my regular. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 2:05pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
I'm taking time to go over the highlights of our 2014 outing and i must say that: 1) Gladly we have Ndidi to make sure that those Angel di Marias dont get chances to just dey fire 5-7 shots while our def just dey look; very annoying. 2)We've improved on defence. 3)Our setpieces need days of practice to make teams start to respect us there. 4) Our full backs has sharp replacements now. besides we can still try the 3man defence as well. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Fringes(m): 2:08pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Mujtahida: Can I reach you via email, please? NL appears to have a lid on the amount of emails a person can send at a given time. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 2:10pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
forgiveness: prior to the game we saw that Etebo-Onazi worked very well with Mikel, subbing in Ogu made no sense, subbing in Etebo in that CMF role was a no brainer for me |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 2:10pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
I've said this before but i think Mikel is on course to be one of the best captains nigeria has ever had if not the best. in my hierarchy of captains he'll be right up there just behind Stephen Keshi RIP. players love and respect him. i'm most impressed with the way he has ensured team harmony and unity by acting as a bridge between the foreign born lads and the other guys. the coach, NFF, media and sports administrators respect him. his captaincy has been a perfect blend of leadership by example both on and off the pitch. he's been there when we needed him most and never shied away from responsibility. a true leader of men Odogwu JOHN MIKEL OBI! 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:13pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Fringes: I will get you the alternative number and do more for your group. Keep up the good work. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 2:15pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
we didn't dominate them throughout the game they gave as good as what we threw at them. our better quality edge us over them. exactly like the game panned out this past saturday Mickael2: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 2:15pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe:Goodjoe isn't it better Iwobi plays for us through the middle as an AM? He is too intelligent for us to play him from the wings. With Mikel and Onazi/Ndidi behind him that guy can make a beast out of your Nacho (although I still insist he's no CF as such) |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 2:15pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Mujtahida: Lol! Did you remember the South Africa Match?! That's where Rohr's tactical weakness was exposed. Hence, I'm skeptical he won't be more exposed at the Tournament except with the Help of a tactically sound Assistant. I'm ain't saying Rohr is a bad Manager, he's indeed a very good Manager, but my point is; he needs more than Salisu Yusuf to excel tactically in Russia. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 2:16pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: Iheanacho's performance against SA and Ighalo's performance against Zambia which would you rather take? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 2:19pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
chrisooblog: from saying we dominated through Jj to saying we were even. You watched youtube highlights right? |
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