Rozz:
There are verses in the bible to prove hell fire exist.Revelation 21:8,Matthew10:28,Matthew 25:46 and many more

Matthew 10:28, like I've earlier stated, the word “hell” in translations of most Bibles today mean something else in the original manuscripts.
The “hell” you're seeing at Matthew 10:28 actually means “Gehenna(Valley of Hinnom)”.

The word “Gehenna” literally means “Valley of Hinnom,” and it referred to a valley that was just outside Jerusalem in Bible times. In Bible times, the city residents used this valley as a garbage dump. So Jesus used that illustration then Gehenna as a symbol of everlasting destruction (Matthew 23:33)

Faithful4real:

Just answer the damn question.

And if i choose to ignore what happens?

You guys are just some funny bully right?

Maximus69:


pressplay411:



I intentionally avoided this discourse for the simple fact that it is one of those that I have termed inconclusive arguments.

While we can't find the mention of the trinity of God is the bible, yet it can be inferred. The same can be said of Jesus being Archangel Michael.

By definition the word Angel means a messenger from God.
And Archangel means the Primary messenger from God.

By inference the title and position would seem only suitable to the person of Jesus Christ.

I think DappaD has done justice with the scriptural references to support this.

However like other spiritual affairs, it is subject to personal revelation or discerning spirit

God bless you again and again for this post!

Now if it's subject to personal revelation , and there is BENEFITIAL WORKS to show for it {James 2:18-26} is there any need for further argument?

Typical. I see you've also started adding to poeple's quotes just to suit your meaning.

Why did you add discerning spirit to the post?

Why am I not surprised when you add your own meaning to the bible.

Hope you know the curses that follow those who add and remove from the bible just to suit their own meaning??

Maximus69:


Walahi Talahi i just dey enjoy my idle times with you, please don't stop i'm enjoying every moment of it Sir!

no answer, just noise.

Myer:


Typical. I see you've also started adding to poeple's quotes just to suit your meaning.

Why did you add discerning spirit to the post?

Why am I not surprised when you add your own meaning to the bible.

Hope you know the curses that follow those who add and remove to the bible just to suit their own meaning??

Jesus has solved the riddle Sir!

Those who add or subtract from God's word can't benefit themselves like JWs are doing globally today! Matthew 7:24-27

I will much later Sir, hope you're enjoying the show!

GRIMMJOE:
no answer, just noise.

Maximus69:
I will much later Sir, hope you're enjoying the show!

35 pages, nothing new

GRIMMJOE:
35 pages, nothing new

Your PERSONAL opinion Sir!

Maximus69:


Your PERSONAL opinion Sir!

It's not an opinion, can't you see 35 on your screen, or are you blind.

GRIMMJOE:
It's not an opinion, can't you see 35 on your screen, or are you blind.

Please Sir the likes and shares means what?

Maximus69:


Please Sir the likes and shares means what?

Like and share means like and share

The 35 pages is nothing compare to 140 years of failure.

GRIMMJOE:
Like and share means like and share

Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

It means some LIKE such opinions Sir and are prepared to SHARE it.
So there is progress even though you want to blur your insight towards it!

Maximus69:


Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

It means some LIKE such opinions Sir and are prepared to SHARE it.
So there is progress even though you want to blur your insight towards it!

How does this prove the existence of Jehovah the limited.

GRIMMJOE:
How does this prove the existence of Jehovah the limited.

That's not the topic here Sir, however those LIKES and SHARES proves that some are getting the sense in the attributes and ways of God even though you choose not to to reason along!

Maximus69:


That's not the topic here Sir, however those LIKES and SHARES proves that some are getting the sense in the attributes and ways of God even though you choose not to to reason along!

The like and share won't exist if God exist, this whole thread wouldn't have been open.

GRIMMJOE:
The like and share won't exist if God exist, this whole thread wouldn't have been open.

OK you mean people just love talking about what is not real and you're also part of the show?

Maximus69:


OK you mean people just love talking about what is not real and you're also part of the show?

If God exist everybody will know, simple.

GRIMMJOE:
If God exist everybody will know, simple.

LIE!
You believe so many things because you studied fervently to know of it, but millions who don't know of it will never agree with you!

Maximus69:


LIE!
You believe so many things because you studied fervently to know of it, but millions who don't know of it will never agree with you!

God does not have limit, if a limit exist, then he's not God, Adam where are you?

GRIMMJOE:
God does not have limit, if a limit exist, then he's not God, Adam where are you?

Never mind my friend, billions have studied the same book and have agreed to the existence of God!
After all you and your friends believe in the definition that's widely acceptable, naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa my friend, you can't leave this one out of it!

Maximus69:


And if i choose to ignore what happens?

You guys are just some funny bully right?

Well is your choice.

Yeah!

Faithful4real:

Well is your choice.

Maximus69:


Never mind my friend, billions have studied the same book and have agreed to the existence of God!
After all you and your friends believe in the definition that's widely acceptable, naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa my friend, you can't leave this one out of it!

Christianity is not the only religion widely acceptable, your point.

GRIMMJOE:
Christianity is not the only religion widely acceptable, your point.

There are over 2,000,000,000 people claiming Christians Sir!

What do you say about that staggering figure!

Myer:


You can see whatever you choose to see in the scriptures.

So if you want to see Jesus Christ as God, it is there.
You want to see Jesus Christ as the Holy Spirit, it is there.
You want to see Jesus Christ as an Angel, it is there.
You want to see him as Lucifer (Morning Star), it is there.

On that premise, those who choose to see Jesus Christ as Archangel Michael will certainly see it too.
It is up to you, what do you want to see?

Those who want to see in the scriptures that Grace permits Sin, also see it. Hence most Pentecostals.
While those who want to see that Grace only permits righteousness, so shall they see viz Deeper Life.

Like I said, you can see whatever you choose to see in the scriptures.

. You have started your own.

You can truly see whatever you want to see but that doesnt change the fact that there is ONLY ONE THING the scripture text shows to us. There is ONLY ONE MESSAGE and there can be ONLY ONE INTERPRETATION. Hence, when two people see differently the scriptures. it is either one of them is wrong or both are wrong. This is the reason we ought to continually examine our doctrines and teachings and be open to make corrections where needed.

The foundation of the scripture is this. A TEXT OF SCRIPTURES CANNOT MEAN TODAY WHAT IT NEVER MEANT WHEN IT WAS WRITTEN. The is the foundation of bible interpretation. What we should desire today is to see exactly the same thing the Holy Ghost inspired the writer to write. And i believe we will all agree that the writers and the inspiration have only ONE, SINGULAR MESSAGE IN A TEXT. That exactly is what we should strife to see.

WHEN A DIVINE UTTERANCE IS SUBJECTED TO DIFFERENT INTERPRETATIONS, IT CAN NO MORE BE CALLED DIVINE.

Maximus69:


Father (JEHOVAH) and son (Jesus) talking Sir! Proverbs 8:22-31

Kasala.

pressplay411:



I intentionally avoided this discourse for the simple fact that it is one of those that I have termed inconclusive arguments.

While we can't find the mention of the trinity of God is the bible, yet it can be inferred. The same can be said of Jesus being Archangel Michael.

By definition the word Angel means a messenger from God.
And Archangel means the Primary messenger from God.

By inference the title and position would seem only suitable to the person of Jesus Christ.

I think DappaD has done justice with the scriptural references to support this.

However like other spiritual affairs, it is subject to personal revelation.

2 Pet 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

Did you say PERSONAL REVELATION? In God's word?

Please delete that word now. It is not good for you at all.

The scriptures are not for personal revelations Sir. It has a define purpose and intent. Search for it Sir. A DIVINE UTTERANCE SUBJECTED TO PERSONAL REVELATION AND VIEWS CANNOT BE SAID TO BE DIVINE AGAIN. To be divine, it must carry the same intent of the inspiration: God.

I think proper bible interpretation classes should be organised in many places. This will go a long way to help many.

GRIMMJOE:
God does not have limit, if a limit exist, then he's not God, Adam where are you?

Can i fully understand your point on the above sir.

hoopernikao:


. You have started your own.

You can truly see whatever you want to see but that doesnt change the fact that there is ONLY ONE THING the scripture text shows to us. There is ONLY ONE MESSAGE and there can be ONLY ONE INTERPRETATION. Hence, when two people see differently the scriptures. it is either one of them is wrong or both are wrong. This is the reason we ought to continually examine our doctrines and teachings and be open to make corrections where needed.

The foundation of the scripture is this. A TEXT OF SCRIPTURES CANNOT MEAN TODAY WHAT IT NEVER MEANT WHEN IT WAS WRITTEN. The is the foundation of bible interpretation. What we should desire today is to see exactly the same thing the Holy Ghost inspired the writer to write. And i believe we will all agree that the writers and the inspiration have only ONE, SINGULAR MESSAGE IN A TEXT. That exactly is what we should strife to see.

WHEN A DIVINE UTTERANCE IS SUBJECTED TO DIFFERENT INTERPRETATIONS, IT CAN NO MORE BE CALLED DIVINE.

For the sake of peace, I will agree to disagree.

hoopernikao:


2 Pet 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

Did you say PERSONAL REVELATION? In God's word?

Please delete that word now. It is not good for you at all.

The scriptures are not for personal revelations Sir. It has a define purpose and intent. Search for it Sir. A DIVINE UTTERANCE SUBJECTED TO PERSONAL REVELATION AND VIEWS CANNOT BE SAID TO BE DIVINE AGAIN. To be divine, it must carry the same intent of the inspiration: God.

I think proper bible interpretation classes should be organised in many places. This will go a long way to help many.

This is quite true and necessary to maintain order and sanity in the church.

But have you wondered why Catholics pray through Holy Mary and your church doesn't?

It was due to a personal revelation that became a doctrine.

To be more scriptural, Paul always referred to his encounters and revelations during his epistles which seemed to contradict the other apostles yet they accepted them, after all both he and Barnabas were chosen by the Holy spirit for a special mission to the gentiles.

Maximus69:

There are over 2,000,000,000 people claiming Christians Sir!

What do you say about that staggering figure!

Your point? there are about 2 Billion Muslim also, but just 8 million Jehovah Witness.

Funny guy, he's now calling himself Christian, no more JW, no more we're different from Christians because he needs the number.