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Islam for Muslims / Re: "The Three Greatest Liars" by ShiaLagos1: 10:08pm On May 21, 2017 |
Couplets of Abu Talib Prove his Islam https://www.al-islam.org/peshawar-nights-sultan-al-waadhim-sayyid-muhammad-al-musawi-ash-shirazi/ninth-session-friday-night#couplets-abu-talib-prove-his-islam Abu Talib's acknowledgement of his belief in Allah at the time of his death https://www.al-islam.org/peshawar-nights-sultan-al-waadhim-sayyid-muhammad-al-musawi-ash-shirazi/ninth-session-friday-night#abu-talibs-acknowledgement-his-belief-allah-time-his-death |
Islam for Muslims / Re: "The Three Greatest Liars" by ShiaLagos1: 10:07pm On May 21, 2017 |
The Real Stimulant For Abu Talib (His Motive for Protecting the Prophet) : https://www.al-islam.org/the-message-ayatullah-jafar-subhani/chapter-21-death-abu-talib#real-stimulant-abu-talib Evidence for Abu Talib's belief https://www.al-islam.org/peshawar-nights-sultan-al-waadhim-sayyid-muhammad-al-musawi-ash-shirazi/ninth-session-friday-night#evidence-abu-talibs-belief |
Politics / Why Dasuki, Kanu, El-zakzaky May Never Be Tried by ShiaLagos1: 6:12pm On Dec 08, 2016 |
Why Dasuki, Kanu, El-Zakzaky may never be tried December 6, 2016 Azuka Onwuka Azuka Onwuka One thing that has been clear since last year’s inauguration of Muhammadu Buhari as Nigeria’s President is that he does not feel comfortable with the way the judiciary and the legislature overrule him on many issues. Left to him, the moment he pronounces anyone guilty, that person should be jailed. And if he does not like any law of the land, he should be able to amend it or repeal it and proceed as he wishes without having to get the permission of the National Assembly. Unfortunately, that is not the situation. And one can see that the President does not feel happy with this situation. In August, Buhari asked for emergency powers to tackle the economy. That did not sail through. Some devil’s advocates have even asked that the constitution be suspended to give him a free hand to rule the nation. READ ALSO: EFCC arraigns Dasuki’s ex-aide, Ashinze, others for N36.8bn fraud Next week (December 14), it will be one year since the Nigerian Army invaded the homes of members of the Shia Muslims in Kaduna, shot a minimum of 347 dead, and took away the leader of the group, Sheikh Ibrahim El-Zakzaky, and his wife. For that one year, neither the government nor the army has uttered a word about the whereabouts of El-Zakzaky or why he is being detained without any legal backing. But most curiously, in that one year, El-Zakzaky was never charged to court, neither did the government obtain a court order authorising it to detain him for security reasons in line with the constitution. He was just taken away, locked away and kept out of circulation as “His Excellency” pleases. Last week, following a case filed by El-Zakzaky, the court ordered that he be released unconditionally within 45 days and that a house be built for him in addition to a payment of N50m damages to him. These are some of the reasons Buhari does not like the courts and the National Assembly. When he tries to do things “in the national interest,” these two arms of government come up with their own decisions that run counter to his views. This was how he wanted to borrow $29.96bn in October and the National Assembly shot it down. Imagine such effrontery! Questioning and thwarting the plans of the President! Similarly, a former National Security Adviser, Col Sambo Dasuki (retd.), was arrested on December 1, 2015 over the alleged misappropriation of the funds meant for arms procurement, while Mr. Nnamdi Kanu of the Indigenous People of Biafra was arrested on October 14, 2015. One year after, there is no concrete sign to show that the Federal Government is keen on seeing them tried in the law court. It seems the Federal Government is more concerned about ensuring that their cases are delayed as long as possible. Therefore, the government employs tactics like amending the charges, dropping some counts, adding fresh ones, and asking for endless adjournments. Given the weight of the accusation against Dasuki and the hoopla that has been raised about it, one would have thought that the government would be eager to start the court case, so as to quickly find Dasuki and all his accomplices guilty and jail them, to serve as a warning to everybody. The same goes for Kanu and the weight of accusation against him. But it seems the government does not want to try them. It just feels satisfied having them locked up and denied any opportunity to get bail, no matter how many times the courts grant them bail. In addition, the Federal Government has applied to have veiled witnesses appear against the two. One wonders what it is hiding that it cannot try these two with witnesses who are not masked, given its claim that it has a mountain of evidence against them. Why is President Buhari not eager to see these men face trial in a court of law? The reason is simple. He is not certain that the court will find these men guilty. In his media chat last year – the only one in his 19 months in office – he made it clear that these men were guilty. If the court finds them innocent and discharges them, that will not make him happy. So, the only alternative is to personally “punish” them by keeping them in detention as long as he is in office, to teach them a lesson, while demonising them by periodically releasing information that paints them in bad light. Given his antecedents with court orders, it is unlikely that Buhari will obey last week’s order made by the court on El-Zakzaky. He will find a way around it, and it will be justified by those who make it their duty to justify anything the President does. But one thing that cannot be denied President Buhari is his ability to speak as his mind thinks, without trying to be politically correct or diplomatic. Buhari is an open book that is easy to read and understand. That is why in close to two years, he has only had one media chat in Nigeria. But any time he travels out – especially to the Western Hemisphere – he is compelled to address people and respond to their questions, and such forums usually produce one statement considered as a gaffe. That was how gaffes about those who gave him 97 per cent vote versus those who gave him five per cent arose as well as the gaffe on his wife belonging to his kitchen, his sitting room and the other room. But in Nigeria where he can avoid live interviews or ex tempore speeches, he avoids them because his blunt comments may run against public opinion. Buhari’s democratic and human rights record since last year has been abysmal. The recent indictment of the Nigerian Army under his watch by Amnesty International on the killing of 150 IPOB civilians was another dent on his record. The report showed that soldiers shot at civilians who had gathered to pray, killed those who were already injured and arrested, and poured acid on some injured people to intensify their pain and hasten their death. IPOB said that contrary to the 150 reported killed by Amnesty International, 2,000 of their members have been killed in the last one year by security agents. The Shiites have been killed in similar fashion since last year. And all this is happening in a democracy under a civilian President. Interestingly, when IPOB members were being killed last year, some Shiites justified it or kept quiet because IPOB members were Igbo and Christians. Now that the killings have affected them, they have begun to raise their voices against the killing of civilians. Many other Nigerians who are neither Igbo nor Shiites are either justifying the killings or looking the other way. In line with the “Turn by Turn Nigeria Limited,” coined by Chief Bode George during the first term of Chief Olusegun Obasanjo as president, who knows when the killings will be their turn? It may be students protesting. It may be mothers protesting. It may be people protesting electoral fraud. Then the silent Nigerians will find their voices. It reminds us of the famous poem by Martin Niemöller on the systematic, group-by-group repression by the Nazis: When the Nazis came for the communists, I remained silent; I was not a communist. When they locked up the social democrats, I remained silent; I was not a social democrat. When they came for the trade unionists, I did not speak out; I was not a trade unionist. When they came for the Jews, I remained silent; I wasn’t a Jew. When they came for me, there was no one left to speak out. Copyright PUNCH. All rights reserved. This material, and other digital content on this website, may not be reproduced, published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed in whole or in part without prior express written permission from PUNCH. Contact: editor@punchng.com Source: http://punchng.com/dasuki-kanu-el-zakzaky-may-never-tried/ CC SEUN LALASTICLALA |
Politics / Why Nigerian Shiites Should Be Allowed To Fully Practice Their Faith — US Envoy by ShiaLagos1: 11:03am On Oct 29, 2016 |
INTERVIEW: Why Nigerian Shiites should be allowed to fully practise their faith — U.S. Envoy http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/213957-interview-why-nigerian-shiites-should-be-allowed-to-fully-practise-their-faith-u-s-envoy.html
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Islam for Muslims / Re: Terrorism Of Salafism VS Islamic Rules Of Engagement by ShiaLagos1: 4:55pm On Jul 04, 2016 |
Saudi Wahhabi Sheikh Calls on Iraq's Jihadists to Kill Shiites On April 23, Saad al-Durihim, a Saudi Wahhabi sheikh, posted a tweet on Twitter in which he said that jihadist fighters in Iraq should adopt a "heavy-handed" approach and kill any Shiites they can get their hands own, including children and women. This is so that the "rawafid" — a term used by Wahhabi Salafists to refer to Shiites — will fear them. This tweet sparked sharp criticism on Twitter. Many considered it to be incitement to murder and contrary to the tolerance of Islam, which forbids the killing of women and children in battle, even those of infidels and polytheists. Sheikh Durihim had previously posted a tweet in which he said that the people of Najd [in central Saudi Arabia] were the "saved group", meaning they alone were the only ones who would enter Paradise on Judgment Day among all humans, including other Muslims. Najd is the region of Saudi Arabia where Wahhabism originated. Daraihim's statements denouncing the Shiites as apostates — in accordance with Wahhabi Salafist doctrine — are not the first of their kind. Takfir (the idea of Muslims renouncing other Muslims as nonbelievers) goes back to fatwas issued by Sheikh Taqi ad-Din bin Taymiyyah, a Syrian sheikh from the Hanbali school of jurisprudence born in 1283 A.D. in Harran, a city near the Turkish-Syrian border. Sheikh Taymiyyah considered Shiites to be deluded heretics. He accused Shiite scholars of blasphemy and considered the general Shiite populace to be ignorant and misguided. This led his followers — in particular Sheikh Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab (1700-1791), the founder of Wahhabism — to denounce all Shiites, regardless of sect, as nonbelievers. They also authorized killing Shiites, holding their women captive, and stealing from them. This goes against the words of the Prophet Muhammad: "The whole of a Muslim is inviolable for another Muslim: his blood, his property and his honor." Talk of a "saved group" goes back to to a hadith (a statement attributed to the Prophet Muhammad) — "My people will be divided into 73 groups, one will enter Paradise and 72 will enter Hell." Some Muslims have taken this statement — which is unconfirmed and illogical — as fact, without regard to its content or authenticity. The aforementioned hadith has appeared in various forms, and has been a topic of controversy and debate among hadith scholars and experts in Islamic jurisprudence. Islamic researcher Abdullah al-Sarihi has written a study in which he noted that this hadith is fabricated and of questionable authenticity. It is not a credible hadith, given that many well-known Islamic figures have questioned it and there are definitive texts that oppose this statement. Likewise, the renowned Yemeni jurisprudential scholar Mohammed al-Shawkani said that this hadith lacks authenticity and credibility. Returning to these takfiri fatwas — which permit apostatizing other Muslims and subsequently killing them (and their women and children), stealing from them, and taking their women captive — we see that this is contrary to the true principles of Islam and the laws of all Semitic religions. The Prophet Muhammed would play games with children, befriend them, and joke with them. The Prophet was also kind to animals; when he was on his way to conquer Mecca, he saw a dog with her puppies and ordered his followers not to disturb her. He also ordered his followers not to tamper with the bodies of enemies as revenge for what the infidels of Quraysh did to his uncle Hamza's body. He even forgave Hind bint Utbah, the wife of Abu Sufyan ibn Harb, and her servant Wahshi, who killed Hamza, desecrated his body, and have his liver to Hind to eat as revenge for the death of her father Utbah who was killed by Hamza in the Battle of Badr. The Prophet ordered his army commanders and fighters not to kill the women and children of infidels, and not to cut down trees or destroy buildings. Islamic writers of various sects have been obsessed with this fabricated hadith about the "saved group", and have worked hard to determine the 73 sects. They have done this by counting various sects and dividing them into sub-sects to reach the desired number. Today, a major problem in the Islamic world is represented by the large number of muftis and sheikhs who are unqualified to issue fatwas, yet still issue fatwas characterized by idle talk and improvisation. Some Islamic jurists and preachers affiliated with sultans were still apostatizing other Muslims to satisfy their sultans. This isn't limited to just takfir, but has progressed to the point of permitting killing, stealing from, and dishonoring of other Muslims. It even reached the point of bombing, where some youth have been deceived into believing that the shortest path to Paradise — to coming face to face with God — is carrying out a suicide bombing to kill infidels. These suicide bombers not only target fighters, soldiers and politicians, but also target mosques, churches, markets, schools and hospitals. These suicide bombers are truly misguided, and the blame falls on those who are described as religious scholars. These so-called scholars are not concerned with the image of Islam held by other Muslims, as they see Muslims killing one another and blowing up each others mosques. If we accept the argument that there is a Muslim sect that has erred and deviated from Islam, doesn't this mean we should invite them to [the true] Islam? Didn't the Quran say, "Invite (all) to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: for thy Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from His Path, and who receive guidance"? (Sura An-Nahl, verse 125) If God has ordered Muslims to invite polytheists, Jews and Christians to Islam with wisdom and beautiful preaching, shouldn't we first invite those Muslims with whom we disagree with wisdom and beautiful preaching, those who have gone astray or deviated from out views and thinking? There is no sect or group that maintains a monopoly on extremism and takfir, all sects are apostatizing others. Even members of the same sect or political group are now apostatizing members of their own group because of political disputes or a struggle for power and leadership. Haytham Mouzahem is a Lebanese analyst specializing in Middle Eastern and Islamic affairs. Read more: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2013/04/wahhabi-sheikh-fatwa-iraq-kill-shiites-children-women.html#ixzz4DSJt654T |
Politics / Pix:London Protest Demand Justice For Zaria Massacre Victims During Buhari Visit by ShiaLagos1: 12:00am On May 13, 2016 |
London Protesters Demand Justice For Zaria Massacre Victims During Buhari Visit The aim of the protest is to call attention to the Zaria massacre, in which at least 350 Shiite Muslims were killed by the Nigerian military, and the abuse and unlawful detention of Sheikh Ibrahim Zakzaky, the leader of the Islamic Movement of Nigeria (IMN). by SaharaReporters, New York May 12, 2016 The Islamic Human Rights Commission (IHRC) is staging a protest and vigil for Sheikh Ibrahim Zakzaky in London, where President Muhammadu Buhari is attending an anti-corruption summit. The aim of the protest is to call attention to the Zaria massacre, in which at least 350 Shiite Muslims were killed by the Nigerian military, and the abuse and unlawful detention of Sheikh Ibrahim Zakzaky, the leader of the Islamic Movement of Nigeria (IMN). The massacre, which took place between December 12 and 14, 2016, began when IMN supporters blocked a road in Zaria, Kaduna State in order to prevent a military convoy from passing through. The military claimed that IMN supporters had attempted to assassinate the Chief of Army Staff, an allegation that the IMN has denied. Following this incident, soldiers surrounded other locations where IMN supporters were gathered, including the compound of Sheikh Zakzaky, and began to fire indiscriminately upon them. Sheikh Zakzaky was then detained and beaten by soldiers. Reports later revealed that the Sheikh had to have one of his eyes medically removed due to damages inflicted by his captors. Witnesses who spoke to Amnesty International stated that children were among the hundreds killed by the military. One schoolgirl, Nusaiba Abdullahi, was shot in her head, and a ten-year-old boy was shot in the leg as he attempted to flee the scene. The military attempted to cover up the massacre by sealing off Sheikh Zakzaky’s compound and other areas where the incident occurred and by secretly burying the victims' bodies. Corpses were taken from the sites and secretly transported to mortuaries and eventually mass graves. According to a Kaduna State government official, 347 bodies of IMN members were recovered from a local hospital mortuary and taken to a field near Mando where they were discreetly buried. The IMN believes that hundreds of other members have been killed and buried, bringing the potential death toll to nearly 1000. President Buhari and top military leaders have not taken meaningful legal action connected to the Zaria massacre to date, which has sparked outrage among the Shiite Muslim community. The Kaduna State government established a Judicial Commission of Inquiry to investigate the incident, but thus far, no concrete steps have been taken to hold the perpetrators of the massacre accountable. IHRC is hoping that its protest will pressure the Buhari administration and Nigerian military to thoroughly investigate the matter and bring justice to the families of the victims. http://saharareporters.com/2016/05/12/london-protesters-demand-justice-zaria-massacre-victims-during-buhari-visit#.VzUDHliJ_40.facebook |
Islam for Muslims / Re: The Twelve Caliph Hadeeth by ShiaLagos1: 7:14pm On May 12, 2016 |
Did the Prophet (s) really say there will be 12 Caliphs after him? Sunni references? November 23, 2015Ahlul Bayt, Imamah (Divine Leadership), Shia/Sunni Question: Is it true that there is a hadith from the Holy Prophet(s) that he said that there will be 12 caliphs or rulers after him? If it does exist, is it authentic, and does it exist in both Shia and Sunni books of narration? Please provide me with some of the main Sunni references if possible. Also, what do Sunni Muslims say about this hadith if it exists in their books? Answer: http://www.askthesheikh.com/did-the-prophet-s-really-say-there-will-be-12-caliphs-after-him-sunni-references/ |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Did The Prophet (s) Really Say There Will Be 12 Caliphs After Him? by ShiaLagos1: 7:12pm On May 12, 2016 |
Islam for Muslims / Does Allah Become Human?-sunni Scholar Responds by ShiaLagos1: 1:26pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Wahhabism Exposed! by ShiaLagos1: 10:03pm On Mar 17, 2013 |
BetaThings:the hadith/tafsir relating verse 5:55 to Imam Ali (as) is mutawatir. secondly,the wording of the verse and the presence of other verses,cannot but force the understanding that the verse is referring to an incident,when the verse is limited to only 3 figures by using the word "only".other Quranic verses inform us that we can take "awliyyah" even of non-muslims,that have not attacked us.so saying only those 3 figures in verse 5:55 are our "awliyyas" will amount to a contradiction in the Quran,and that cannot be. most sunnis accept the verse refers to Imam Ali (as) or was revealed in his honor,and only (mis)interpret the word "wali" to mean "friend.otherwise,you can tell us who it refers to in the other thread. I don't want to bring the topic of verse 5:55 into this thread because a thread already exists exclusively on verse 5:55.you participated in it.you can continue there if you wish or you have anything new to enlighten us.the thread has taken a gradual progression: https://www.nairaland.com/1213613/holy-quran-5-55-tbaba-youre
the statements of al-Haidary are very clear to me.many Sunnis still accuse the Shia of "insulting" Aisha, and accusing her of "zina",a charge the Quran dropped.we do not accuse Aisha of that.however,what have to do with facts would be tackled. if you don't think so and still think al-Haidary's statements are contradictory,it is because you don't want to think in line with what does not make the statements contradictory.it suits you to discredit him,and that's good for you. |
Islam for Muslims / Re: The Srebrenica Massacre by ShiaLagos1: 9:36pm On Mar 17, 2013 |
BetaThings:no one stops you from recalling or marking those days by educating Muslims on what happened.we Shia still to this day commemorate the death of the Prophet (s) in the month of Safar and the martyrdom of Imam Ali (as) in the holy month of Ramadan.however,both the death of the Prophet (s) and the martyrdom of Imam Ali (as) do not carry the catastrophe that the Tragedy of Karbala carries.regardless,we are not intent on making such a comparison because all of them are beloved to us and their absence was undeniably huge loss to the Muslims.but the point I am simply saying is we do remember all of them.it is you who do not,or you choose when to remember and when to forget,and what to remember and what to forget. we Shia are not like you who consider it okay to mark the massacre of sebrenica but consider it bid'ah to mark the tragedy/massacre of Karbala. no one is asking you to "single out".we are simply saying if you see nothing wrong with commemorating/marking/remembering the sebrenica massacre,then nothing is wrong in commemorating the tragedy of Karbala or the death of the Prophet (s) or martyrdom of Imam Ali (as),because all these occurrences marked great loss and grief for the Muslim ummah.recalling them will only get the Muslims closer to their deen and history. you not marking any and then making it seem we are "singling" out only one,is not true.we mark all,even though the martyrdom of Imam Hussein (as) carries more publicity because it was the most tragic event in the history of Islam,where the Prophet's (s) grandson was beheaded,after being besieged,and his household members and their companions killed or taken captives.this is a tragic event,while the martyrdom of Imam Ali (as) which we also mark was a tragic murder/incident,when an accursed struck him with a poisoned sword while he was praying fajr in the masjid in the holy month.we don't "single" out,but you condemn us for remembering those days by accusing us of "bid'ah". the sebrenica massacre is still remembered.even though tbaba did not open the thread on the particular day the event took place,doesnt mean he is not commemorating it,or those who do commemorate on the exact day are wrong.
there is no need,because you are bent on the issue of intercession because that is where you are bent on rejecting reasoning.you go in circles on that topic and it is boring because it has been discussed many times with you.even if the Shia believe the Prophet (s) or his Ahlul-Bayt (as) have whatever powers,it is by the permission of Allah.you cannot bring me any Shia who believes that any human being has any power independent from the power and permission of Allah (swt).so don't waste our time with propaganda videos that distort the views of others. |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Questions For The Sunni/salafi And Shia by ShiaLagos1: 8:25pm On Mar 17, 2013 |
deols: Any response that doesnt have a direct relationship with my question would be hidden in sha Allah. Madam, my post you hid has to do with your question.there was no drift even though it was a reply to tbaba's post.if you want to hear both sides,then please unhide my post.that is a bad beginning to start the thread.i don't mind if you restrict this thread only for me and tbaba.you can hide this post,and unhide the other one.then we can continue with the thread.thanks. |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Questions For The Sunni/salafi And Shia by ShiaLagos1: 6:19pm On Mar 17, 2013 |
deols: 1. Is it possible for everyone to be just Muslims rather than being sunni or shia? yes it is very much possible to be "just Muslim" in theory.but practically that is near impossible,because of historical influences. in Africa when our ancestors were converted to become muslims,no one told them what they were being given is one version of the story and not the complete story.many muslims today in Nigeria don't know they are sunnis in practical terms.they don't even know what is sunni or shia.that is a sad reality of the ignorance prevailing,and the lack of choice that was back then when people were introduced into the religion. now if you don't want to be sunni or shia,that is theoretically possible but practically impossible.and even theoretically,from a Shia view,your faith would not be complete if you do not follow both the Quran and the Ahlul-Bayt (as).the Prophet (s) said we must follow after him the "thaqalain" or "the two weighty things",as we find it in the Hadith of the Two Weighty Things. not being sunni or shia would entail you remove everything in practicing Islam that either of the two sides associate themselves with.for instance when praying you must stop shouting "ameen" after reciting al-fatiha,do not pray taraweeh in jama'ah,do not fast on Ashura etc (in order not to be seen as Sunni and be identified by the Shia as following bid'ah).or you should not pray on turbah,grief on Ashura,or do Ziyara of the Ahlul-Bayt (as) (in order not to be seen as shia). so really,it becomes a situation whereby you may do somethings by the shia and somethings by the sunnis.you end up in confusion.that is why whenever the Shia are around,the Sunnis feel threatened because their traditions are about to be replaced with what the Shia see as the right way of practicing the religion. but like I said,theoretically yes it is possible because whoever recite and accepts the shahadatain is a muslim.but when it comes to practicing Islam,then the problem arises.on every contentious issue between the two parties,you either choose the shia or the sunni viewpoint on practice.as for me,i am Shia because I follow the will of Allah (swt) and the Prophet (s) by holding on to the "Two Weighty Things".all other things that sunnis hold onto,that are contentious and the shia reject stems from outside the Quran and the Ahlul-Bayt (as),i.e. it is either Umar did that or Muawiya said so,and to the Shia these people are usurpers and not worthy of being religious authorities,especially when it comes to new things that can be classified "bid'ah".I am not ready to "follow" those who themselves should have been "followers" (of the Ahlul-Bayt) instead of imposing their own will on the muslim ummah.like I said,the official version of the sunni caliphate was introduced as "islam" into Africa,without specifying it.but in the middle east where the division was,the people knew what they were and what they chose to follow.now,we are learning too our Islamic history and religion.and with the internet and events around the Islamic world (like in Iraq,Iran,Lebanon,Bahrain,Pakistan),we get to know what truly is Shia Islam.Before we used to hear the propaganda that stigmatizes the Shia and even try to take them out of the fold of Islam altogether.but now,with the internet and fast info,we know the truth,that we were deceived to be Sunnis. |
Islam for Muslims / Re: The Srebrenica Massacre by ShiaLagos1: 3:37pm On Mar 17, 2013 |
BetaThings: you said it you don't set a day to remember anyone.you see the dribbling and dishonesty? as if the massacre/tragedy that happened in Karbala doesn't have a date in the Islamic calendar;but sebrenica does.and even when the Shia mark the day of Ashura,your Wahhabi/salafist brothers bomb them and kill them. |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Muslim Couple's Children Handed To Christian Parents Based on Suspicion by ShiaLagos1: 1:45pm On Feb 13, 2013 |
Dan_de_Numeruno: Do americans (even christians) believe their country is a "christian country"? I doubt! Fundamentalist Christians are battling in the US with abortion and gay laws,and with atheists and everyone else. 1 Like |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Muslim Couple's Children Handed To Christian Parents Based on Suspicion by ShiaLagos1: 12:52pm On Feb 13, 2013 |
Moukafoam: You're talking nonsense like the bigot you're.where are arab christians being forced DAILY to convert to Islam or loose their lives? Is it in Egypt where a Coptic Christian priest's wife was kidnapped by the church for embracing Islam? Or in Lebanon where the president MUST always be a christian,and the same goes for the chief of army staff and governor of the central bank. |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Muslim Couple's Children Handed To Christian Parents Based on Suspicion by ShiaLagos1: 12:19pm On Feb 13, 2013 |
Biggoozz: Please desist from putting such sensitive topic on the front page. The purpose is simply to incite religious fights and divisions Muslims are entitled to their right of bringing up their child according to their beliefs, but digging up a story about foster parents that have raised their children to become successful adults while their real parents' innocence were yet to be proven and skewing the whole thing from the purview of religion is wrong and shouldn't even be discussed in the "Islam for muslims" section not to talk of on the home page. Whoever put up this story on homepage should remove it at once or should be ashamed of himself. You need to "shatap".you are pretending to be "reasonable" because the culprits and perpetrators of wickedness in this case are christians.if it was the other way,and muslims display such pathetic character you'd rush to cry foul.fairness come into your mind only when you do bad.and judgement comes in quickly when you're pointing finger at others.you can go preach in other threads on nairaland used for bashing/insulting muslims by broods of hungry and ignorant christians roaming this forum en masse,and posting without thinking properly. 2 Likes |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Muslim Couple's Children Handed To Christian Parents Based on Suspicion by ShiaLagos1: 12:13pm On Feb 13, 2013 |
vanstanzy: The children now are 22, 21 and 18. The Amers say the children were trained to be Christian missionaries and to believe that Muslims cannot enter heaven because they do not believe that Jesus is God. Say: “He is Allah, the Unique.Allah, the Self-Sufficient.He does not give birth, nor was He born. And there is none equal to Him." (Holy Quran,Surat Al-Ikhlas) 8 Likes |
Islam for Muslims / Establishment Of Islamic Military Organization by ShiaLagos1: 8:17pm On Jan 27, 2013 |
West, Israel against Muslim military organization: Iran MP Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:12PM GMT [img]http://previous.presstv.ir/photo/20130127/pirhayati20130127150222040.jpg[/img] Leaders of Muslim countries pose during the official photo taking session of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation summit in Mecca, Saudi Arabia, on August 14, 2012. Iranian lawmaker Esmail Kowsari says the US and Israel are trying to scare Muslim countries of accepting Tehran’s proposal to establish an Islamic military organization. “The Iranophobia is promoted by the global arrogance and Zionists and now that establishing a military organization consisting of Muslim countries has been proposed, they are trying to scare Muslim leaders of forming an alliance with Iran,” he said Sunday. Member of Iran Majlis National Security and Foreign Policy Committee added that various groups of countries have forged different alliances with each other such as the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), the Central Treaty Organization (CENTO) and the Central-Eastern European Treaty Organization (CEETO). “Iran’s proposal for the establishment of a joint military organization consisting of Muslim countries will turn Muslim nations into a single force,” Kowsari said. He added that the international community must realize that Muslim nations have binding and strong agreements with one other, and the establishment of a joint Muslim military organization will facilitate unity of the Muslim world. On January 26, 2013, Iranian Defense Minister Brigadier General Ahmad Vahidi said the Islamic Republic has called for the establishment of a joint military organization among Muslim states to defend the rights of the oppressed people. Iran first called for the establishment of a defense treaty among Muslim countries in August 2012. MP/HGH/SS http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/01/27/285863/west-israel-against-muslim-military-org/ |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Islamic Unity Week in Rabiul-Awwal by ShiaLagos1: 1:28am On Jan 26, 2013 |
BetaThings:if you seek forgiveness for them,it means you share something with these criminals.and the something you share with them can be divided into two: 1.) enmity for the Ahlul-Bayt (as) at least by belittling their position God have granted to them. 2.) spreading criminality and hatred you find extremists Sunnis working on to blow up Shia and Christian places of worship.the same terrorism and criminality that befell the Ahlul-Bayt (as) of Prophet Muhammad (s).so if you are with the truth,you dont go about seeking forgiveness for those who have committed evil.have you no consideration that that could be enough reason for you to anger God and those on truth who are victims of oppression? the entire religion of Islam is built upon amr bil maroof wa nahi anil munkar (enjoining good and forbidding evil). what you are doing here in the thread is resisting unity.instead of trying to honestly and openly deny the solid steps being taken by others to promote unity,you are popping up divisive arguments and hiding behind them.it is evil! you are very funny.someone traces his lineage to Prophet Muhammad (s) through his grandsons,Imam Hassan and Hussain (as),the sons of Sayyida Fatima (as).and you are saying you would "refute" that claim.i wonder how and based on what logic/fact. who are the descendants of the Prophet (s)? do you want to belie the Holy Quran and the prophecy contained in Suratul-Kawthar? no offense intended,can i deny you are the son of your father? isn't that ridiculous? anyways for you info,many if not most of our Shia Muslim scholars wear the black turban to symbolize their dignified ancestral lineage from Prophet Muhammad (s).Shia scholars who are not descended from Prophet Muhammad (s) put on white turbans.
i dont know whether to laugh at the above,or to cry because i assume you are a mature man that is not below the age of 18! so you condemn boko haram killing christians because the "godship of Jesus" is the "essence of christianity".but you dont condemn the inhuman and un-islamic massacres (by Sunni extremists) against Shia Muslims because Imam Ali (as) according to you "did not do these stuff" we do.did Jesus (as) claim to be "god" according to Islam,and based on both the Quran and Bible? do you see your dishonesty? perhaps you are shy to also justify targeted killings against Christians and be seen as a blind extremist,whereby a christian in the forum can see your words and hold them against you.you are beyond ridiculous.so you dont condemn killings of people based on what religious beliefs they hold? does Islam support killing people because they hold different beliefs from yours? i dont think this is what we learn from the Quran.and this is definitely not the Islam of Muhammad (s).this is the "Islam" of Banu Umayya,which is obviously the legacy of the Jahiliyyah Quraysh and its tradition of bloodshed.should we Shia also start killing Sunnis arbitrarily because they "dont follow what Muhammad (s) preached",or Christians because they "dont follow what Jesus (s) taught"? you make no sense!
you can keep dreaming.but i want to turn you too into a Shia.and we Shia do that through the pen and the spoken word,and not through the bombs.if we kill ourselves then,no one gets to change or turn or convert.we Shia believe peaceful preaching with "wisdom and kind exhortation" which are recommended in the Quran are enough to turn the entire earth to (Shia) Islam.
you should ask them.or read their takfiri statements they embark on to kill.the fact is the Shia have neither committed murder against the terrorists nor have the Shia sought vengeance.they kill Shia Muslims simply because the Shia Muslims are falsely described as "heretics" and "unbelievers" and "mushrikeen/idolaters" by the extremists blinded by hate and sedition.they are acting on the takfir (verdict of disbelief) they (i.e. the extremists) pass on others.passing takfir and avoiding what they regard as "disbelief" or preaching peacefully against it ( "disbelief" ) is not enough for the criminals.they have to kill.that is their belief and religion of terrorism inherited from the Banu Umayya who beheaded the grandson of Prophet Muhammad (s) himself. the videos of hate you post by people of extreme hate are evidence of this takfir the extremists work on to kill and commit bloodshed and corrupt the earth;while the Quran says "he who kills an innocent soul it is as if he has killed all of humanity" and "let those who will believe and those who will disbelieve".definitely killing even outright "unbelievers" who have not oppressed anyone is a sin in Islam.so how much more Muslims? |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Islamic Unity Week in Rabiul-Awwal by ShiaLagos1: 12:19am On Jan 26, 2013 |
BetaThings: you have missed a great deal on the point of Tabarra,which to a least extent is what chapter of the Quran,which is also referred to as "Suratul-Baraa" was revealed about.try and understand the concept of Tabarra in Islam.doing Tabarra simply mean taking a stand with Allah (swt).if those men end up in paradise on a hypothetical basis you are drawing up,it is never therefore because they never deserved as tyrants or oppressors to be done tabarra on.rather,we have done what is expected of us and Allah forgave them. it is like criminals in a country trying to kill the first lady.when theese criminals are caught,a crowd of citizens call for justice and demand these criminals be executed.in the event the president passes a presidential pardon,those who called for justice and took a stance in favor of the first lady and out of love for the president have done the right thing and no evil would be upon them.those pardoned should be grateful for the kindness shown to them and have no case against what just people called for. i am replying in this way to cut the story short.otherwise those under the microscope,if we are to take them one by one,and analyze what they committed and against whom,based on authentic prophetic hadiths and in light of the Quran,we will realize their fate will more than likely be in the hell fire.however to cut things short,it is unbecoming for anyone to side with someone who committed crimes on the premise of the possibility the criminal could be forgiven.forgiveness is one thing,and seeking justice or disassociating oneself from the criminal and taking a stance in favor of truth and justice is definitely another thing entirely.the two should not be mixed,or one used to counter the other on the premise of sheer possibility.
those iranian arabs are Shia.so i wonder who you are referring to with "you" and "others".you perhaps have thought under the false impression that any arab must be Sunni and any persian must be Shia.those arabs of Ahwaz province where Khuzestan is found are Shia.they are very similar to the Shia arabs of Iraq and especially those found in the predominantly Shia arab city of Basra,in Iraq.i dont want to go into this topic discussing their plight or whether the report you cited is right or wrong.i am simply telling you that the analogy or the parallel you wanted to draw by using "you" and "others" in regards to the iranian government and the people of ahwaz (respectively) does not hold.i would also bring to your attention that the foreign minister of the islamic republic of iran,Ali Akbar Salihi is an Ahwazi arab.the supreme leader of Iran,Ayatollah Khamenei is a "sayyid" with a black scholarly turban or descendant of Prophet Muhammad (s),the prophet from arabia. secondly,no one should be killed for holding whatever religious beliefs.you are indirectly or implicitly saying the Shia genocide in pakistan or killings elsewhere are justified,and that contradicts Islam.perhaps you may as well say christians have to stop claiming Jesus (as) is "god",and until they stop boko haram will continue to kill them.it is only if you follow a religion of barbarism that you would support killing people based on what they choose to believe,an inalienable right that God have given man according to the Quran.the Quran says "let those who will believe,and those who will disbelieve".you should by no mean play the tactic of justifying one crime with another,by seeking to introduce another subject into the topic or diverting our conversation to discuss Ahwaz,which is entirely a different situation not based on sectarian/ethnic killings and where no one's life is taken based on religious or ethnic identity,and no one's place of worship is blown up into piece to massacre worshippers as we see the extremists (wahhabi/salafist) Sunnis do to the Shia.the situation in ahwaz province has to do with relations between a central government of a sovereign state with an independent judiciary and a province within the sovreign state of Iran;not between terrorists and victims.do not divert the topic.either try to think before you post in an honest manner or keep silent and learn what you have no knowledge of.you cannot bring discord even into this thread,in a process of what seems to you as defending what you hold with ignorance. |
Islam for Muslims / Muslim Couple's Children Handed To Christian Parents Based on Suspicion by ShiaLagos1: 8:02pm On Jan 25, 2013 |
Rehab Amer & Husband Ahmed "Innocent - But No Kids" Insult to injury: Christian adoptive-mom says - "They should be thankful." After years of court battles, frustration with Child Protective Services and lengthy and complicated procedures - The Amer family - both mother and father are in tears! Why? How could they be sad? After all, they were FOUND INNOCENT of any wrong doing. According to Judge Edward Thomas the presiding judge, as he read the new death certificate of their baby boy, Samir Amer, both parents were completely innocent, and in no way responsible for the death of their son. So why are they still so upset? Why are they in tears? Oh, maybe because the court who finds them innocent after all, still would not return their three children. This story is an old one - (or is it?) Could this happen even today (huh?). Read (and think about this in today's world): Wayne County Minnesota - Rehab Amer was found innocent of responsibility for death of her 2 year old son (1985). But too late - her children must remain as Christians with adoptive family. This story really happened - It took place a few years ago, but it is still very real in the hearts and minds of those who had to suffer through it, and are still suffering today. Associated Press -- INDEPENDENCE TOWNSHIP -- The evangelical Christian adoptive mother of a Muslim couple's three children says birth parents should be glad of the upbringing she gave the children, who were removed after the suspicious death of a sibling. On Tuesday, a judge cleared the birth mother, an immigrant from Lebanon living in Dearborn, of responsibility for her 2-year-old son's 1985 death. The death led Michigan authorities to give her three young children for adoption. Wayne County Circuit Judge Edward Thomas in Detroit ordered that the death certificate for Samier Amer be changed to say that his death was an accident, not a homicide, after evidence that the boy had brittle bone disease. The ruling came after the county settled a lawsuit brought by birth parents Rehab and Ahmed Amer. The children now are 22, 21 and 18. The Amers say the children were trained to be Christian missionaries and to believe that Muslims cannot enter heaven because they do not believe that Jesus is God. Willard and Essie Stamper, who live in Oakland County northwest of Pontiac, say they raised the three and their five birth children as strong Christians and got them involved in Faith Tabernacle Church in Burton. "You can't believe what we've been through for 16 years," Essie Stamper, 68, told The Flint Journal. The birth parents "should be glad for the life (the children have) had," she said. "They're loved by their family and by their church." A jury found Rehab Amer not guilty of second-degree murder, but Michigan's welfare department refused to return the surviving children to their parents. The Stampers adopted them in 1990. Essie Stamper called the case a tragedy and said she felt sorry for the Amers. But she said she could not solve their legal problems: "I did the next best thing -- I raised the children." She said she has been accused of brainwashing the children, and commented: "When you adopt the child, they are yours." The 22-year-old, who was named Mohammed Ali at birth and later renamed Adam, lives in Minnesota after attending Bible College in Texas. The 21-year-old twin sister of Samier, who was named Sueheir and renamed Suzanne, is a receptionist living in Flint. The 18-year-old, born Zinabe and renamed Rochelle, lives with her [Christian foster parents] in Independence Township and is a high school senior. Stamper said the children hardly had an adversarial relationship with their birth parents. She said she introduced the youngsters to their parents when they asked and the courts allowed it and even prodded the younger two into meeting their birth parents despite the kids' reluctance. "I let (the Amers) come right to my house, into my living room," Stamper said. "All of these years, we've tried to work with them." Over time, though, the relationship became strained, Stamper said. She said the Amers never accepted the fact that the Stampers were the youngsters' parents or that the children were, in fact, no longer even children. "They're grown. They make their own decisions," says Ms. Stamper. http://www.islamnewsroom.com/news-we-need/359#.UQIwWXO4vTk |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Islamic Unity Week in Rabiul-Awwal by ShiaLagos1: 10:49am On Jan 25, 2013 |
Dissociation from Evil . Monday, 17 May 2010 14:51 Rabab Jaffery . On the eve of the martyrdom of the greatest lady in the universe (peace be upon her), one action that every Shia Muslim performs is to pick up the rosary and utter the words, "May the curse of Allah be upon the oppressors." Why do we curse those who are no longer alive and present? What is the importance of such as act in the light of Islam? Do we not spread the fire of hatred by cursing the ones who are respected and loved by other sects of Islam? Tabarra is the word given for complete dissociation from the enemies of Islam and Ahlul Bayt (peace be upon them). According to traditions, this act is one of the foundations of religion. This article discusses about how Tabarra is viewed in our societies. On a side note, although the term "curse" has been used in this article for the sake of convenience, we should know that the word lan'at cannot be translated directly as "curse", which is to appeal misfortune for someone. Rather, it is an invocation praying for the removal of blessings and mercy from the doer of evil. The world is full of hate, and Tabarra adds more hate...we need to spread love instead A wise scholar once said, "The one who can please each and everyone must be a hypocrite." The religion of Islam is a great fan of spreading love and friendship among all human beings, but not when they are perpetrators of falsehood and injustice. A society that can accept both good and evil at the same time is unstable and will break down at some point. Tabarra acts like the sieve that filters the slightest inclination towards evil from our souls, and guards our faith against hypocrisy. Tabarra disunites the Ummah and strengthens the Shia-Sunni Schism Publicly cursing the murderers of Lady Fatima Zahra (peace be upon her) can and will create friction between Shia and Sunni Muslims. Should Shia Muslims care about this problem? Indeed, yes. We must simply not overlook the advice of Imam Ali (peace be upon him) (especially in his last will) stating that Muslims should always beware of disunity. Cursing in public goes against the purpose of Tabarra, which is to stabilize and protect the Ummah. For this reason, our scholars have disallowed this type of potentially harmful cursing in public. No doubt we must curse those whom Lady Fatima herself would curse, but we must be mindful of doing it in a way that does not create Fitna and destabilize the Ummah. Tabarra makes you dwell on too much past and forget the present First of all, dwelling on the past isn't a bad thing. The remarkable thing about history is that it repeats itself so often! Islamic history is no different. As we curse the enemies of Ahlul Bayt, our curious mind seeks to know why we are cursing them, and most importantly, why the Ahlul Bayt did not approve of them. Let us recall that the Ahul Bayt did not dislike individuals for personal reasons; they disliked them because they acted against Islam. The end result of Tabarra is hatred towards everything which is against Islamic teachings. We really don't achieve anything by uttering a simple curse...or do we? Well, that really depends on how much Tabarra we are bringing into action. Tabarra of words is great, but quite meaningless if it only stays there. The wife of Pharoah, Lady Asiyah (peace be upon her), was a great example to show us how Tabarra should be performed. When she was severely tortured by her tyrant husband for accepting the call of Prophet Musa (peace be upon him), Lady Asiyah's prayer to Allah was: "O my Lord! Build for me, in nearness to Thee, a mansion in the Garden, and save me from Pharaoh and his doings, and save me from those that do wrong." (66:11) She could have simply asked Allah to save her from the tyrant Pharoah, but instead she desired separation from "his doings" and every type of falsehood and evil. When we do Tabarra, we must exactly do this. The effect of this would be to create within us repulsion towards the actions that made the accursed worthy of Allah's curse. As we do Tabarra against Yazid, we express disgust towards all his doings, and through our actions, we do nothing that resembles his actions. A person who curses Yazid would not go near alcohol. A girl who really curses Yazid cannot step out of her house without Hijab. Is Tabarra only towards personalities in the past? Of course not! Tabarra is an always active form of worship that we need to be mindful of every day of our lives. If we are invited to a mixed gathering and we decide not to go, we are doing Tabarra. As we kill our desire for that creamy Frappucino at Starbucks or that cool Motorola Droid cell phone, we are doing Tabarra as we are boycotting Zionist goods. Every step we take against falsehood is Tabbara. "The curse of Allah is on the wrong-doers." (Quran 7:45) http://www.islamicinsights.com/religion/religion/dissociation-from-evil.html |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Islamic Unity Week in Rabiul-Awwal by ShiaLagos1: 10:35am On Jan 25, 2013 |
^ i think we can also add a third option (which should be the first option),and that is stopping terrorism against other Muslims: https://www.nairaland.com/1120418/genocide-shia-muslims-pakistan https://www.nairaland.com/961495/timeline-sectarian-terrorism-against-shia as for your two options,i wonder who does them and where i am not aware of muslims asking Allah to "abrogate" His verses on forgiveness or to withdraw his mercy from "MUSLIMS".i am only aware of asking Allah to withdraw His mercy from/punish some hypocritical criminals in the past who did great harm to Islam and Muslims,like Yazeed and a number of his predecessors and associates.i am sure no one can pray for forgiveness for some people who made Allah,His religion and the Prophet and his household (s) their declared enemies and targeted them.any sane muslim would be afraid to ask for forgiveness for an enemy of Allah.the only sane option is disassociating themselves from the enemies of Allah (swt).i cannot imagine for instance an american asking God to forgive bin laden after the 9/11 attacks (going by the claim that bin laden carried out those attacks).it is not normal! |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Reasons For The Forbidance Of Celebrating The Prophet Birthday By Shaykh Salih F by ShiaLagos1: 10:32am On Jan 25, 2013 |
^ the flexibility of the saudi wahhabis in having a national day referred to as eid,goes to show you the flexibility of the arabic language and also the non-rigidness of the religion of islam which some people want to make rigid and pass rules based on nothing but sheer stubborness.i wonder what aspect of mawlid is "haram" for it to become an innovation.do we worship idols on mawlid? assuming evidence is not already cited on the Prophet (s) marking the day he was born in with activities like fasting and sacrifice,not everything that is "new" becomes "bid'ah" (forbidden/haram innovation).some people are happy in building a four wall box around their mind and calling that "islam". |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Re: How I Discovered Shia Islam Was The True Islam by ShiaLagos1: 2:46am On Jan 20, 2013 |
BetaThings: ^^^^ like this you mean: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZoGjqkUMz0 Zhul-fiqar: |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Re: How I Discovered Shia Islam Was The True Islam by ShiaLagos1: 2:42am On Jan 20, 2013 |
BetaThings: refer to these: LagosShia: LagosShia: LagosShia: LagosShia: LagosShia: what is wrong with this statement: https://www.nairaland.com/913503/allah-everywhere#10688009 |
Islam for Muslims / Re: A Story Of A Sunni Imam And Shia Ayatollah by ShiaLagos1: 12:26pm On Nov 21, 2012 |
The Prophet (sa) Made It Forbidden For Women to Go Into Battle Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 43: Narrated ‘Aisha: (That she said), “O Allah’s Apostle! We consider Jihad as the best deed. Should we not fight in Allah’s Cause?” He said, “The best Jihad (for women) is Hajj-Mabrur (i.e. Hajj which is done according to the Prophet’s tradition and is accepted by Allah).” Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 127: Narrated ‘Aisha: the mother of the faithful believers, I requested the Prophet permit me to participate in Jihad, but he said, “Your Jihad is the performance of Hajj.” Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 128: Narrated ‘Aisha: the mother of the faithful believers: The Prophet was asked by his wives about the Jihad and he replied, “The best Jihad (for you) is (the performance of) Hajj.” The Reaction of Imam Ali (as) When Aisha's Army Was Defeated: History of Tabari Volume 16 page 127: “Muhammad Ibn Abu Bakr (Aisha's brother who was fighting with Imam Ali against his sister,Aisha) carried Aishah away and erected a large tent over her. Ali stood in front of her and said “You roused the people and they became excited. You stirred up discord among them such that some killed others”, and he went on at length”. Hafsa Was Prevented From Joining Aisha BY Her Brother al-Bidayah wal Nihayah, Volume 7 page 231 that: ‘The mother of the believers Hafsa bint Umar agreed to march to Basra with Ayesha but her brother Abdullah prevented her’. For more on the Battle of Jamal,please read more: http://en.shiapen.com/comprehensive/ayesha/rebellion.html |
Islam for Muslims / Re: A Story Of A Sunni Imam And Shia Ayatollah by ShiaLagos1: 12:13pm On Nov 21, 2012 |
Killing Innocent People on Her March to Battle Before the Fighting Commenced: "They marched towards it (Basra) and they arrested and imprisoned Uthman bin Hunayf the governor who was appointed by Ali and 50 men in the treasury were killed. In Tadkhirah tul Khawwas, page 26 we are informed that: “Uthman bin Hunayf was arrested and a messenger was sent to Ayesha for her opinion on what should be done to him. Ayesha said that he should be killed. A woman pleaded for his (Uthman’s) life so Ayesha ordered that he be imprisoned, he was flogged 40 stripes and the hair from his hair, beard and eyebrows was removed. Ayesha and her supporters also killed a further 70 people without reason”. Ibn Abdul Barr records in al-Istiab, Volume 1 page 108: They killed 40 men, took the money in the treasury and arrested Uthman bin Hunayf. They then sent Aban bin Uthman to consult Ayesha, she replied: ‘Uthman bin Hunayf should be executed’. We also: They killed 40 men, took the money in the treasury and arrested Uthman bin Hunayf, they then sent Aban bin Uthman to consult with Ayesha, she replied: ‘Uthman bin Hunayf should be executed’. A woman then said: ‘O mother of the Believers, I appeal to you by Allah about Uthman bin Hunayf and his accompanying Allah’s messenger (pbuh)’. Ayesha said: ‘Tell Aban to return’. When Aban returned, she said: ‘Don’t kill him but imprison him’. Aban said: ‘If I knew you would ask me to return for this, I wouldn’t have returned’. Then he (Aban) went to them and informed them (about Ayesha’s orders), hence Mujash’e bin Masud said: ‘Hit him, pluck out his beard’. Thus they struck him with 40 lashes and plucked out his beard, eyelash and eyebrows’. What wrong doing did Uthman bin Hunayf do that merited his being treated in such a manner? Was his sin, the fact that he was the Governor of Basrah, legally appointed by the Caliph Ali (as)? What Shari ruling entitled Ayesha to order his death (in the first instance)? Was she the Head of State / or a Judge that entitled her to issue this order? What were the charges leveled against Uthman bin Hunayf? Did he get the right to a fair trial? Let us not forget that Uthman bin Hunayf against whom Ayesha passed the decree of death and who was subsequently tortured by the companions of Ayesha was not an ordinary person but a Sahaba the very category of individual that our opponents claim love and adhere to. His biography can be read in al-Isaba, Volume 4 page 449 and in Usud al-Ghaba, Volume 1 page 746 Mufti Ibn Talha Shafiyee records in Matalib al-Seul, page 119 wrote: “In Kufa Abu Burdha Azdi asked Ali, ‘why were people killed at Jamal?’. ‘Ali replied ‘They killed my Shi’a and my officials without any justification, then they fought me, despite the fact that they gave me Bayyah, they killed 1000 of my companions”. Galvanizing public opinion in your favor is one thing; Ayesha was galvanizing people to join in a military campaign to fight Imam Ali (as). The following words of the companions spoken to Zubayr prior to battle of Jamal serve shall serve as a comprehensive slap on Ibn al Hashimi’s face. Ibn Jarir Tabari narrated from: Ahmad – from his father – from Wahab bin Jarir bin Hazim – from Younis bin Yazeed – from Zuhri: …They came to al-Basrah, the governor of which was Uthman bin Hunayf, and he asked them: “What makes you angry at our companion [Ali]?” “We don’t consider him more eligible for leadership than we” they replied “after what he has done”. “The man [Ali], made me governor, so I will write to him and inform him why you have come” said Uthman, “On the condition that I lead the prayer until his reply comes”. So they held back from him and he rode off. But they waited only two days and then attacked Uthman [bin Hunayf] and fought with him at al-Zabuqah near the supply center. They gained the upper hand and captured Uthman. They were about to kill him but then they feared the wrath of the Ansar. So they attacked his hair and body instead. Talhah and al-Zubair then rose to make speeches and said: People of al-Basrah! Repentance should fit the crime. We wanted the Commander of Faithful only to get Uthman to satisfy [our complaints]. We didn’t want him to be killed, but the fools prevailed over the wise men and killed him.” “But Abu Muhammad!” the people replied Talhah. “The letters you sent us said otherwise.” [Talhah was unable to answer them, and upon that al-Zubayr said]“Did you [also] receive any letter from me about what he was doing?`”Asked al-Zubayr, going on to mention Uthman’s murder and what led to it and to emphasize Ali’s blame in it. At this a man from Abd al-Qays stood up facing him and said: “Be silent, man! And listen so that we may speak.” Abdallah bin al-Zubayr retorted, “What position are you in to speak?” “Company of Muhajirun!” said the Abdi. “You were the first to respond to the message of God, and you gained favor through that, and then everyone else entered Islam following your example. Then when the Messenger of God died you gave allegiance to one of your number, but by Allah, you didn’t consult us in any way about it. We gave our approval nevertheless and went along with you, and Almighty and Glorious Allah blessed the Muslims through His caliphate. Then he died, having appointed a man Caliph in his place over you. Again you didn’t discuss it with us, but we gave our approval and accepted. When this caliph died, he placed the decision in the hands of six men, and you chose Uthman and gave him allegiance without consulting us. Then you found some faults with this man, so you killed him without consulting us. Then you gave allegiance to Ali, without consulting us. So what exactly are you angry with him about that we should fight him? Has he appropriated booty or carried out some injustice? Has he done something you object to such that we should join you against him? If not, then what is going on?” Talhah and al-Zubayr’s men then tried to kill this Abdi, but his tribesmen stood in their way. But the next morning they leaped on him and his men and killed seventy men.“ History of Tabari, English Edition, Volume 16 pages 68-69 |
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