Well Backslider has not commented since my last submission. I'm sure he'll be diligent to study further and come to the Truth.

Listen Tudor,

God loves man, so much that He sent His son Jesus to die as a sacrifice for the sins of man.

I have said this before, 'No one will go to Hell for what he did, People will go to hell because of WHO they are'

Man was not condemned because of what each person did, but for Adams' sin.

It's religion that teaches praying for forgiveness at each wrong doing(which you cannot possibly tell nor count anyway)

When John wrote in I John 1:8, , he was firstly speaking of people who think they are so good and do not need God's mercy through the sacrifice of Jesus Christ.

Now having come to God in submission, and being Born Again, he goes on to say in I John 2:12 that 'I write unto you, little children, because your sins are forgiven you[b] for his name's sake[/b].' And it is his spirit that's Born Again, not his body or mind.

Understand that the Born Again person is not the same as the old man. It is his mind that wants to sin, but his spirit is pure and just before God. He is described as one that is 'created in righteousness and true holiness' (Ephesians 4:24)

In all of this God advices to flee sin WHY? Because its not consistent with our new nature. Not that God will abort you and send you to hell.
No! no! no! The ignorance of this truth is what has made many Christians so ineffective in their Christian walk and cannot have their prayers answered because they cannot receive fro their Father.

If God Almighty could allow Jesus (who did no wrong) go to the cross and die for sinful man, then be sure He can take a man who has accepted that sacrifice, look him in the face and say 'this man is innocent'

Just like the man who isn't Born Again but does all the right things and no wrong(from man's stand point), its his conscience that tells him all is still good, but God sees him as dead(separation from God). The same way a Born Again person who does wrong and asks for forgiveness does this to justify his conscience only, it has no impact to God. God justified that man the day he received Jesus and His sacrifice of death. God called him righteous, holy and a son of God.

Now, no matter how much a man who isn't Born Again prays for forgiveness, it only works for his conscience, he is still condemned.

See;

II Corinthians 5:

19 'To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.

21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.'

See Also;

Romans 8

1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

7Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

A Born Again person has transcended above the human nature and laws where God is concerned. God sees him righteous, Holy and as His Glory.
So this man has no business looking at what his flesh is engaged in, but is to fix his gaze on what the spirit says concerning him and his new nature, what the WORD has said concerning him in the scripture as revealed in the Epistles/Gospel. 'Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of your faith'. (Hebrews 12:2)

How do you look unto Jesus, because He isn't here with us? You feed on God's WORD continually, because its the WORD that has the power to make your actions right. But if you keep minding the things of the flesh by observing all your wrong actions, boy! you have a hard life to live.

Feed on God's word, feed fat and bare much fruit(have an abundance of God's word believed, understood and stored up in your heart).

Romans 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. Hallelujah!

Tudór:

@Truthonly
Sorry we cannot take your word for it. How do we know you're telling the truth? How are we sure you have the holy spirit?

Tudor,

Everything I've said here is scripture, no more, no less. I have no words of mine here Tudor.

Just GOD'S WORDS for you !

Backslider/Tudor,

Guys, these things are not for your brains to reason out, only your spirit man can receive the WORD of God. We are called believers because we have believed and do believe.

If you search/study scripture with the intention of knowing, you will surely learn, but if you search with the intention to criticize and find faults, you'll be drawn as far away as possible. God and His WORD are one; meaning these WORDS of scripture I am guiding you through are not mere words. It's the WORD OF GOD, and is GOD, It is living and active and knows you and the intents of your heart, nothing is hidden from it.

An unbelieving heart searching/studying scripture may toil on and on only to arrive at confusion-WHY? Because his heart isn't right, his heart has the wrong intentions and unwilling to believe, bible calls it a doubting heart. And the WORD knows this.

Like I said you must receive the Holy spirit to be enabled to grow in the knowledge of this new life in Christ. Its a spiritual kingdom, it's organized, its powerful, it's the most glorious and the greatest thing there is on earth. 

But consider this;

1 Corinthians 2:11   For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

  1 Corinthians 2:12   Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

  1 Corinthians 2:13   Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

  1 Corinthians 2:14   But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.


Backslider,

The book of Acts - Revelations is a picture of the New creation. It's the mirror of the new man in Christ written in words. We cannot know who we became when we accepted Jesus and His sacrifice except through these bible revelations given by God's spirit.

So everything I showed you in the book of Hebrews in my previous text is a picture of what was obtainable in the old testament/dispensation versus the new testament/dispensation with respect to committing sin and the atonement for sin. they only apply to Born Again people in the New testament.

Tudor,

There is only one interpretation to scripture. The Holy Spirit is not confused. When grown, you don't say "there are many interpretations to scripture"  You come to the knowledge of the Truth, no longer tossed around by every wind of doctrine.

Trust me guys; I tell you the truth only, I do not lie.

Hey Backslider,

I show you a mystery that is been hid since time past, but is given unto you to know as a believer in Jesus and his sacrifice. You will have to do your own diligent study of the bible portions I will guide you through.

Even the old testament folks received forgiveness for their errors.
And they were never expected to ask for this forgiveness each time they were in error.
The forgiveness was consummated ones in year by the High Priest;

Hebrews 9:7   But into the second went the high priest alone once every year, not without blood, which he offered for himself, and for the errors of the people:  


Now see;

Hebrews 9:24   For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:

Hebrews 9:25   Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others;

Further see;

Hebrews 10:7   Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.

 Hebrews 10:8   Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;

 Hebrews 10:9   Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.

 Hebrews 10:10   By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

 Hebrews 10:11   And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:

 Hebrews 10:12   But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;

 Hebrews 10:13   From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.

 Hebrews 10:14   For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.  


Hebrews 10:15   Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,

 Hebrews 10:16   This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;

 Hebrews 10:17   And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.


Now in conclusion;

If the old testament folks received forgiveness, what then is the difference between the old testament folks and us New Creation. Its clear in Romans 8:1-10


Hebrews 10:18   Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.

 Hebrews 10:19   Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,

 Hebrews 10:20   By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;

 Hebrews 10:21   And having an high priest over the house of God;

 Hebrews 10:22   Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.

 Hebrews 10:23   Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised

Backslider,

You will do yourself a lot of good by a diligent study of Hebrews 9 & 10.
Have you received the Holy Spirit?

Please ask whatever questions you have doubts over. I'm here to dissolve doubts and answer hard questions.

You must receive the Holy Spirit to understanding and believe these things.

Remain blessed, Jesus cares so much for your spirit.

Good one!

Now, without biting around.

The Born Again person has the right to forgiveness,
while the natural man is condemned and has no right to forgiveness.

This forgiveness is by default and does not require asking from God Almighty!
We are his kids and forgiveness is our birthright.

But we have appetite for the word of God and do feed on it, this strengthens
us from the inner man and the appetite for the wrong things are all lost in a process of time.

The natural man will not go to  hell for what he did,
he'll go to hell for who he is.

Remember, Jesus went to hell not for something he did,
but because the sins of the world were laid on his spirit
and He became sin. But we know He defeated the devil right there
in hell and resurrected the 3rd day Hallelujah!

So, being born again is God's gift to the creature called man
whom he loves so much. The gift of Life(Zoe), the God type of life, the righteousness life. Its a new nature that's totally different from the natural man.

Its free, all you need do is confess that Jesus came to earth to die for your sins and rose again on the 3rd day, you've got to believe this truth in your heart of heart. Its true and not a story. This is all you need do to be born again.

HOW DO YOU KNOW ITS NOT COUNTERFEIT?

Well you should know its counterfeit if you do not believe the confession you made. But if you believe that confession, you'll know you are born again for a truth; after all, He's paid for you. hallelujah!

Pastor AIO:

You're right, there is nothing said about snake bites.  What was said was that they would be able to drink poison and It will not harm them.

So my question should be "do you know of any grown up or baby born again prophets in nigeria that drink poison and remain unharmed.  If you can't find none do you just make do with learning from other baby born agains?

Hey Pastor AIO,

"And if they shall drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them"

Don't get the idea that the man goes around like a performer and drinks poison to prove anything, no.

The verse says 'if they shall drink' meaning a case of 'mistakenly' or by another person without his(drinker) knowledge, with the intent to harm.

So if you can believe the others, you can surely grow your faith to believe this Pastor AIO!

ifababa:


Hey dexmond i read that thing and its quite irrelevant to our discussion, But about TRUTH ,it is.And you know what ?, that is his own TRUTH, You cant have 2 encounters in exactly the same ways, SAMUEL'S encounter was different from Paul's,David's and the rest,  and thats why YOU WILL BE JUDGED BY THE TRUTH YOU KNOW,

but his experience was quite an interesting one, WE ALL CANT HAVE IT THE SAME WAY, MY OWN ENCOUNTER DIFFERS FROM YOURS

   


  Being born again according to scripture means accepting the sacrifice of DEATH and the Glory of RESURRECTION of Jesus Christ,

Can you just re-read what you wrote with more concentration ?, You wrote that and you tell me its not about behavioural pattern, I think the problem with people is that they read the bible too conventionally that they really dont know how it practically relates to EVENTS and the immidiate world around them,both practically and spiritually,

The simple explanation of what you wrote on that first line is just the REALIZATION OF AN OLD SELF,,,AND CONSCIOUSNESS OF A NEW AND BETTER SELF, Which basically and realistically can only be reflected through  one's BEHAVIOURAL PATTERN and ATTITUDE TOWARDS THINGS,

Then point {2}, You wrote,  "If any man be in Christ, he is a new creature(specie of man): old things(nature) are passed away,

What do you mean by new creature(specie of man): old things(nature),
You're just contradicting things and misusing terms,

I'ld advise you to get some little knowledge in fundamental psychology,by then you'd be able to interpret the bible very well on your own with the help of the holyspirit {SUPERCONSCIOUS},

I would recommend Dr robert Anthony's TOTAL SELF CONFIDENCE for a start and concentrate on chapter one"DEHYPNOTIZING YOURSELF", Thanks



I rest my case

Hey Ifababa,

1 Corinthians 2:11   For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

 1 Corinthians 2:12   Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

 1 Corinthians 2:13   Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

 1 Corinthians 2:14   But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Pastor AIO:

It's the etc part of that quotation that I want to talk about.  Since you are so blessed to have God-sent prophets coming out of every orifice, tell me which one of them 'grown up' or otherwise have you known to be able to pick  up poisonous snakes.  Or how many can receive a poisonous snake bite and remain unharmed?

Hey Pastor AIO,

So you do agree with the first and the last ones I believe. Well; the verse said "they shall take up serpents" It didn't say anything of snake bites, nor of the snakes wanting to bite them.

Thanks for that lovely question.

ifababa:


Dexmond, You sound so conventional that i might just conclude that you yourself have'nt the knowledge of what you're saying,

  Born again just simply means a change of attitude,personal realisation of yourself or a particular behavioural pattern you believe you should change from to the one you think is a better one, which is of course RESPECTIVE,  YOU shall know the TRUTH and the TRUTH{ Which you know, not your pastor's truth}  shall set you FREE,

TRUTH is an ELUSIVE concept, IT DIFFERS, Your's is different from mine, The TRUTH you knew yesterday is different from the one you know today and thats why our perception of a particular thing changes.Because there is an added knowledge of that same thing,
Thats why your best food 20 years ago might not be the same today,your choice of girl,beer,wears e.t.c

Our truth can never be the same,,,and thats the part your pastor wont tell unless you because he wants you restricted within his own confinements,

And thats why the religious view of an average CHRIST EMBASSIER  is like CHRIS OYAKILOME's ,an average REDEEMER'S  like  BABA  ADEBOYE, an average CANANN LANDER'S like OYEDEPO, DEEPER LIFER'S  the same way, I hope you now see what i'm talking about,

WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO FIND YOUR OWN TRUTH MR DEXMOND,

I rest my case,

Hey Ifababa,

Being born again has nothing to do with a behavior. Being born again according to scripture means accepting the sacrifice of DEATH and the Glory of RESURRECTION of Jesus Christ, this DEATH which you should have paid as a price for who you are as a child of Adam, for you were condemned because of Adams sin in the garden.

However, God sent Jesus as a ransom for this loose of mankind. Now, you are only made free when you accept this God's ransom by confessing it with your mouth and believing it in your heart. When this confession is made by you; the bible declares that a supplanting of your old nature occurs: II Corinthians 5:17, "If any man be in Christ, he is a new creature(specie of man): old things(nature) are passed away; behold, all things are become new."

This is what it means to be Born Again. Now like the phrase says (born again), your spirit man can only be born as an infant even though you are 30yrs old. That spirit man needs to grow like your body did. The only food that spirit man feeds on for its growth is the WORD of God. The attributes of character/behavioral change you mentioned are only the product of a growing spirit(one that is growing in the(accurate) knowledge of the Gospel. For no man can change without the enablement of God's power. If we could do it ourselves, then we would not need Jesus to come die as a sacrifice for us.

No man will go to hell because of what he did or will do, people will go to hell because of who they are(Adam's kids). So Jesus said "you must be born again to inherit the kingdom of God." Romans 5:12, "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death(seperation from God) by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned."

Now Jesus did not commit any sin but was killed by men(though ordained by God as man's sacrifice). Now Verse 18 of same Romans 5 says "Therefore as by the offence of one(Adam) judgement came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification(aquited and declared not guilty) to life.

You shall know the TRUTH and the TRUTH  shall MAKE you free(not set you free). There's a big difference.

Now one last point and we can all close this topic (as the poster is back in church Hallelujah!)

'TRUTH' the bible refers to, is the knowledge of God's word(WISDOM). Not what our parents thought us, not the rumors or opinions in the tabloids or street, not science but what we have to learn from the bible through anointed men of God in our time. Lets not be deceived like many men of old who denied the power of God and His prophets. Jesus gave enough detail of those sent of God; read what He said; Mark 16:17-18 "These signs shall follow them that believe; In my name they shall cast out devils etc. Now if you do believe but do not do these signs mentioned in the verses of scripture, it don't mean you don't believe, it only means your spirit man is still young in knowledge and require spiritual food(an abundance of the knowledge of God's word in you to produce those result). So find grown up ones around and learn off them. They are the prophets of our time. Nigeria is thoroughly blessed to have God sent prophets, lets go for knowledge!

Don't doubt these things now, Acts 20:32, "And now, brethren, I commend you to God and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you(your spirit man) up, and to give you an inheritance among them which are sanctified.

The only benefits and fulfilment in chritianity(God's kingdom) is found in the accurate knowledge of the Gospel, Hallelujah!

VISTA! any day.

bindex:

I just got back to nigeria about 6 weeks ago, and all i see is "demonic forces" in action every where i went. I visited my girl's house and discovered that her 14 years old younger brother was attacked by evil spirits, he was taken to a prayer house where he still is as at now, we payed him a visit and during our visit i talked to him about how he felt and what was really wrong with him, he told me that he see things and hears voices most especially when he is in the dark that he wouldnt want to discuss with me, he urged me to just continue to pray for him. I visited kano(my home state) i was born a muslim but we converted to christainity when my mum decided to convert to her previous religion after the death of my dad(she became a muslim after they got married) and in kano i experienced the same thing.

I visited my moslem relatives on the other end (I still lie to them that I am a muslim to gain acceptance) and experienced the same thing, there was a girl who is a relative of a wife of my cousin, she was attacked by Aljanu (evil spirits ), and was brought to a mallam who lives in my cousins vicinity, we took the girl there and the mallam began to pray for her using the Koran, once he started praying for her she began to scream, cry and roll on the floor, she begged them to stop reading the Koran and promised to leave the young lady alone and never to return, they asked the so called Aljani what his name was, his age, where he came from and the reason he got hold of the young girl, the girl said somethings and continued to shout and scream when ever the mallam read the verses from the Koran, the young girl kept saying things that were not very clear and of no particular meaning, she was speaking in tongues the way christains do, in short it was really a DRAMICTIC scene, having been brought up as a muslim i had witnessed such events about twice or trice when i was a kid but it was really strange and eerie since i no longer believe in islam and had never witnessed such a thing for a very long time.

I came back to Benue and the same saga continued, I visited one of my friend and his brother inlaw was also attacked by "demonic forces" we went to visit him in the church, there is a place where they housed the demon possessed individuals, there were many people with different levels of insanity inside the building when we entered. When I went in I chatted with a few of them, I asked them how they were feeling and some told me they were getting better, one of them confided in me and confessed that he still keeps hearing voices urging him to kill the pastor and the guy that takes care of them, i was bewildered.

I have been living in Europe for the past 3 years, i earned my masters degree in Sweden, I have been to Germany and Ukraine. Europeans are mostly atheist as i found out when i went there, infact most of the people i have meet there(i have meet quite a lot of people there) were atheist. why don't they experience any witches, demons and Aljanu? i have never experienced or heard about anything like that amongts my european atheist friends, infact they don't know what it means to be possessed by evil spirit, I am an atheist leaning agnostic who believes that there are somethings that appear supernatural based on my experiences as a former moslem and christain. I am asking this question because most of the people here in Nigeria are blinded by dogma, which makes it difficult to have this kind of discussion with them, they start quoting from the bible or koran things they have little or no knowledge about besides i don't want to sow the seed of suspicion amongst my family and friends with such questions since every body here is very religious, and as the saying goes when in rome do as the romans do, so my question to any one who feels he has an answer is, Why is it that witches, Wizard, Aljanu and Demons never attack atheist but only attack religious people?

Dear Bindex

I'll start by showing you the BIG picture and AGENDA: The purpose God for man is that they be saved from eternal damnation through the acceptance of Jesus' sacrifice of death and resurrection.

However that of the devil for man is to destroy the man(creation) that God loves so much, by ensuring they never come to the knowledge of this truth. He was cast out of God's kingdom along with other angels that harbored the seed of iniquity in them. These are the demons roaming the earth today.

Now, even though I think your example is a little isolated and not generally correct; I'll say why should the devil bother with the atheists knowing they are already where he wants them, he need not bother them, rather he concentrates on those who are close to that knowledge of truth.

I say 'close to' because when you come to the knowledge of the power of the Gospel to save, no demon hatched out of hell can successfully oppress you. However, the problem is that this truth is still not prevalent in christiandom; but it is growing strong and many are being set free through this knowledge. That's the reason for the preaching of the Gospel, that's God's number 1 business and concern on planet earth. Hallelujah

One more thing you should bare in mind; TRUTH is constant, if you believe it-it works for you. If you do not believe it-it is to your own disadvantage.

Cheers!

fayahsoul:

"God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods" psalm 82:1

"And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden." gen 3: 8

Now, how the hell can an omnipresent being be every where and one place at the same time? If every thing came from God almighty how then can he exist outside of himself? how can he be formless and have form at same time? He created the whole universe but can walk on earth like an earthling? And if he can walk on earth and talk to people then he is not a sole authority, his authority can be contested.

Look, you cretins, the God of the bible are woolly haired, dark skinned afurakan geneticist who grafted the european from human and ape. That's why indo-europeans have fur not hair(u don't see animals with woolly hair), they lack melanin like shaved monkeys, some are born with tails(spina bifida), they have large ears, thin lips and flat butts like apes and they're the most savage and inhumane.

Remember: "Ye are Gods!" -john 10: 34.

FAYAHSOUL

Look properly at the verse of scripture, it says the 'VOICE' of God came walking in the garden!

All your questions are and comments are valid. But you see;

THAT'S WHAT MAKES HIM GOD!

HE CAN DO WHATEVER HE WANTS,

GO WHEREVER HE WANTS,

HOWEVER HE WANTS,

AND IN WHATEVER FORMS HE CHOOSES.

My dear Kuru, please listen carefully. The bible is inspired of God and written of men indeed, and very accurate from God, but off course man is limited to an extent. I'll answer your questions as you asked, but you will need to do diligent studies to appreciate and apprehend this new life in Christ Jesus. And trust me, without receiving the Holy Ghost into you, there will be struggles for understanding, because He is the author and He can be the only true teacher through anointed men of God.

Q:In genesis God told adam that if he ate the fruit he will surely die.ADAM ATE THE FRUIT BUT LIVED OVER NINE HUNDRED YEAR

A: In Genesis 2:17, "But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die" This is exactly what God said.

In II Peter 3:8, "But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day"

Adam lived for 930years and died. Not up to 1000years=1Day with God

Q:Jesus told peter that you will deny me three times before the cock crows. BUT IT IS REPORTED IN THE BIBLE THAT THE COCK CREW AFTER PETER DENIED JESUS TWICE.

A: You do not have an accurate account of the event Kuru. There were 3 different accounts of this event given in the bible.

(I)
Matthew 26:34: "Jesus said unto him, verily I say unto thee, that this night, before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me trice.

Matthew 26:69: "Now Peter sat without in the palace: and a damsel came unto him, saying, Thou also wast with Jesus of Galilee.
70: But he denied before them all, saying, I know not what thou sayest.
71: And when he was gone out into the porch, another maid saw him, and said unto them that were there, This fellow was also with Jesus of Nazareth.
72: And again he denied with an oath, I do not know the man.
73: And after a while came unto him they that stood by, and said to Peter, Surely thou also art one of them; for thy speech bewrayeth thee.
74: Then began he to curse and to swear, saying, I know not the man. And immediately the cock crew.
75: And Peter remembered the word of Jesus, which said unto him, Before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice. And he went out, and wept bitterly."

(II)
Mark 14:30: "And Jesus saith unto him, Verily I say unto thee, That this day, even in this night, before the cock crow twice, thou shalt deny me thrice."

Mark 14: 66: "And as Peter was beneath in the palace, there cometh one of the maids of the high priest:
67: And when she saw Peter warming himself, she looked upon him, and said, And thou also wast with Jesus of Nazareth.
68: But he denied, saying, I know not, neither understand I what thou sayest. And he went out into the porch; and the cock crew.
69: And a maid saw him again, and began to say to them that stood by, This is one of them.
70: And he denied it again. And a little after, they that stood by said again to Peter, Surely thou art one of them: for thou art a Galilaean, and thy speech agreeth thereto.
71: But he began to curse and to swear, saying, I know not this man of whom ye speak.
72: And the second time the cock crew. And Peter called to mind the word that Jesus said unto him, Before the cock crow twice, thou shalt deny me thrice. And when he thought thereon, he wept.

(III)
Luke 22:34: "And he said, I tell thee, Peter, the cock shall not crow this day, before that thou shalt thrice deny that thou knowest me."

Luke 22: 55: "And when they had kindled a fire in the midst of the hall, and were set down together, Peter sat down among them.
56: But a certain maid beheld him as he sat by the fire, and earnestly looked upon him, and said, This man was also with him.
57: And he denied him, saying, Woman, I know him not.
58: And after a little while another saw him, and said, Thou art also of them. And Peter said, Man, I am not.
59: And about the space of one hour after another confidently affirmed, saying, Of a truth this fellow also was with him: for he is a Galilaean.
60: And Peter said, Man, I know not what thou sayest. And immediately, while he yet spake, the cock crew.
61: And the Lord turned, and looked upon Peter. And Peter remembered the word of the Lord, how he had said unto him, Before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice."


Q: Also jesus told the criminal on the cross that today you will be with me in paradise BUT WE ALL KNOW THAT JESUS WAS IN THE GRAVE FOR THREE DAYS BEFORE RESURECTION SO WHERE WAS THE CRIMINAL ALL THIS WHILE

A: This was a simple common error in the bible translations which I will show you. I am glad you know Jesus did go to Hell immediately he died(to go and defeat the devil on our behalf) and off course resurrected the third day back to earth. With this in mind, lets look at the account in the bible;

Luke 23:43: And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.

Now see the same verse as I have corrected below;

Luke 23:43: And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee Today, shalt thou be with me in paradise.

Jesus did not mean to tell him that they would be together today. He said "I say unto you today, Thou shall be with me in paradise"

The new testament was originally written in the old Greek language and was translated into English language by language scholars (many who didn't have the Holy Spirit in them) and being not spiritually enlightened, they misplaced the punctuation mark.

KURU

Some times i read the bible and i wonder if I am reading something inspired by God or just stories written by mere men.
Check this out;

In genesis God told adam that if he ate the fruit he will surely die.ADAM ATE THE FRUIT BUT LIVED OVER NINE HUNDRED YEARS.
Jesus told peter that you will deny me three times before the cock crows. BUT IT IS REPORTED IN THE BIBLE THAT THE COCK CREW AFTER PETER DENIED JESUS TWICE.
Also jesus told the criminal on the cross that today you will be with me in paradise BUT WE ALL KNOW THAT JESUS WAS IN THE GRAVE FOR THREE DAYS BEFORE RESURECTION  SO WHERE WAS THE CRIMINAL ALL THIS WHILE

PLS I NEED REACTIONS


My dear Kuru, please listen carefully. The bible is inspired of God and written of men indeed, and very accurate from God, but off course man is limited to an extent. I'll answer your questions as you asked, but you will need to do diligent studies to appreciate and apprehend this new life in Christ Jesus. And trust me, without receiving the Holy Ghost into you, there will be struggles for understanding, because He is the author and He can be the only true teacher through anointed men of God.

Q:In genesis God told adam that if he ate the fruit he will surely die.ADAM ATE THE FRUIT BUT LIVED OVER NINE HUNDRED YEAR

A: In Genesis 2:17, "But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die" This is exactly what God said.

In II Peter 3:8, "But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day"

Adam lived for 930years and died. Not up to 1000years=1Day with God

Q:Jesus told peter that you will deny me three times before the cock crows. BUT IT IS REPORTED IN THE BIBLE THAT THE COCK CREW AFTER PETER DENIED JESUS TWICE.

A: You do not have an accurate account of the event Kuru. There were 3 different accounts of this event given in the bible.

(I)
Matthew 26:34: "Jesus said unto him, verily I say unto thee, that this night, before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me trice.

Matthew 26:69: "Now Peter sat without in the palace: and a damsel came unto him, saying, Thou also wast with Jesus of Galilee.
70: But he denied before them all, saying, I know not what thou sayest.
71: And when he was gone out into the porch, another maid saw him, and said unto them that were there, This fellow was also with Jesus of Nazareth.
72: And again he denied with an oath, I do not know the man.
73: And after a while came unto him they that stood by, and said to Peter, Surely thou also art one of them; for thy speech bewrayeth thee.
74: Then began he to curse and to swear, saying, I know not the man. And immediately the cock crew.
75: And Peter remembered the word of Jesus, which said unto him, Before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice. And he went out, and wept bitterly."   

(II)
Mark 14:30: "And Jesus saith unto him, Verily I say unto thee, That this day, even in this night, before the cock crow twice, thou shalt deny me thrice."

Mark 14: 66: "And as Peter was beneath in the palace, there cometh one of the maids of the high priest:
67: And when she saw Peter warming himself, she looked upon him, and said, And thou also wast with Jesus of Nazareth.
68: But he denied, saying, I know not, neither understand I what thou sayest. And he went out into the porch; and the cock crew.
69: And a maid saw him again, and began to say to them that stood by, This is one of them.
70: And he denied it again. And a little after, they that stood by said again to Peter, Surely thou art one of them: for thou art a Galilaean, and thy speech agreeth thereto.
71: But he began to curse and to swear, saying, I know not this man of whom ye speak.
72: And the second time the cock crew. And Peter called to mind the word that Jesus said unto him, Before the cock crow twice, thou shalt deny me thrice. And when he thought thereon, he wept.

(III)
Luke 22:34: "And he said, I tell thee, Peter, the cock shall not crow this day, before that thou shalt thrice deny that thou knowest me."

Luke 22: 55: "And when they had kindled a fire in the midst of the hall, and were set down together, Peter sat down among them.
56: But a certain maid beheld him as he sat by the fire, and earnestly looked upon him, and said, This man was also with him.
57: And he denied him, saying, Woman, I know him not.
58: And after a little while another saw him, and said, Thou art also of them. And Peter said, Man, I am not.
59: And about the space of one hour after another confidently affirmed, saying, Of a truth this fellow also was with him: for he is a Galilaean.
60: And Peter said, Man, I know not what thou sayest. And immediately, while he yet spake, the cock crew.
61: And the Lord turned, and looked upon Peter. And Peter remembered the word of the Lord, how he had said unto him, Before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice."


Q: Also jesus told the criminal on the cross that today you will be with me in paradise BUT WE ALL KNOW THAT JESUS WAS IN THE GRAVE FOR THREE DAYS BEFORE RESURECTION  SO WHERE WAS THE CRIMINAL ALL THIS WHILE

A: This was a simple common error in the bible translations which I will show you. I am glad you know Jesus did go to Hell immediately he died(to go and defeat the devil on our behalf) and off course resurrected the third day back to earth. With this in mind, lets look at the account in the bible;

Luke 23:43: And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.

Now see the same verse as I have corrected below;

Luke 23:43: And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee Today, shalt thou be with me in paradise.

Jesus did not mean to tell him that they would be together today. He said "I say unto you today, Thou shall be with me in paradise"

The new testament was originally written in the old Greek language and was translated into English language by language scholars (many who didn't have the Holy Spirit in them) and being not spiritually enlightened, they misplaced the punctuation mark.

Once again, I say go for knowledge, Flee this ignorance. Its so clear in scripture;

EPHESIANS 4:11-13
11] And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
[12] For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
[13] Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ

So the saints are not perfect and that is why the pastors, teachers etc where given, if you leave church, what hope do you then have to reach God's goal for you (His church). Mind you the church isn't a building, its the body of Jesus which is you and I. Jesus is the head, we are His body (Colossians 1:18-[18] And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

The church as a whole is a growing body, growing to maturity and you have your role to play in this process. Don't be left out!

WHAT IS THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST?

I JOHN 5: 11-14
[11] And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
[12] He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
[13] These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

Wow! Isnt it amazing how history repeats its self. The Hebrews and Israelites also had these kind of arguments in the old and new testament portions of the bible. Exactly as you all put it. Its really interesting that man never changes.

We will do ourselves a lot of good by diligent study of God's manual for man (the Bible) and divide the word of truth for ourselves. I have come to realise that we all have varying levels of grace; either to find yourself in a ministry where the word is thought ACCURATELY or where "THE KING IS STILL A CHILD" (Ecclesiastes 10:16)

Open your bible to II Corinthians 4:1-6, if you do a diligent study of this portion of your bible, it gives an insight to why such talk of doubt and confusion exist in the church and the world today. Its no mystery. It's a grand plan that was instituted even before you were born to mislead you to eternal damnation.

SOLUTION
Further in Ephesians 1:15-19, we see the solution to this challenge. I think (accurate)knowledge is difficult to find, but I believe in prayer. And if we've been asked to say that prayer, then we have the solution.

SPIRITUAL INTELLIGENCE
I would rather study at Harvard rather than any Nigerian university. This is obviously because they provide the best of all is required for learning.
I have seen dropouts from Nigerian universities who go abroad to study and graduate with first class. I think this principle also applies to spiritual things. So lets be wise. As an adult, I will not necessarily attend a church because my parents, relatives or friends approve. I will go where I see results, where my spirit is fed right and built strong, resulting in answered prayers for my loved ones and I.

Remember, God said in Hosea 4:6 "My people are destroyed for the lack of knowledge. (Mind you, He didn't say; sinners or pagans. He said 'My people', those who go to church and shout Hallelujah! and Amen!)

Its really sad because we believe every building with a man standing at the pulpit is a church to attend. But I tell you there are credentials you've got to see to be sure that man is qualified by God ONLY to be your spiritual teacher and guide; Look at what was said about Jesus in Acts 2:22, this is a universal law from Heaven, be not deceived.

I tell you the truth, I do not lie. Though you may have a Pastor without these credentials, but he must be under one with such credentials. Only then can you be sure you are being taught and led right.

Don't get entangled with these talks of unbelief and doubt. You are a child of God with wisdom and power in this world and that to come, Amen.

Wow! Isnt it amazing how history repeats its self. The Hebrews and Israelites also had these kind of arguments in the old and new testament portions of the bible. Exactly as you all put it. Its really interesting that man never changes.

We will do ourselves a lot of good by diligent study of God's manual for man (the Bible) and divide the word of truth for ourselves. I have come to realise that we all have varying levels of grace; either to find yourself in a ministry where the word is thought ACCURATELY or where "THE KING IS STILL A CHILD" (Ecclesiastes 10:16)

Open your bible to II Corinthians 4:1-6, if you do a diligent study of this portion of your bible, it gives an insight to why such talk of doubt and confusion exist in the church and the world today. Its no mystery. It's a grand plan that was instituted even before you were born to mislead you to eternal damnation.

SOLUTION
Further in Ephesians 1:15-19, we see the solution to this challenge. I think (accurate)knowledge is difficult to find, but I believe in prayer. And if we've been asked to say that prayer, then we have the solution.

SPIRITUAL INTELLIGENCE
I would rather study at Harvard rather than any Nigerian university. This is obviously because they provide the best of all is required for learning.
I have seen dropouts from Nigerian universities who go abroad to study and graduate with first class. I think this principle also applies to spiritual things. So lets be wise. As an adult, I will not necessarily attend a church because my parents, relatives or friends approve. I will go where I see results, where my spirit is fed right and built strong, resulting in answered prayers for my loved ones and I.

Remember, God said in Hosea 4:6 "My people are destroyed for the lack of knowledge. (Mind you, He didn't say; sinners or pagans. He said 'My people', those who go to church and shout Hallelujah! and Amen!)

Its really sad because we believe every building with a man standing at the pulpit is a church to attend. But I tell you there are credentials you've got to see to be sure that man is qualified by God ONLY to be your spiritual teacher and guide; Look at what was said about Jesus in Acts 2:22, this is a universal law from Heaven, be not deceived.

I tell you the truth, I do not lie. Though you may have a Pastor without these credentials, but he must be under one with such credentials. Only then can you be sure you are being taught and led right.

Don't get entangled with these talks of unbelief and doubt. You are a child of God with wisdom and power in this world and that to come, Amen.

Its not so much about what is possible, its about what YOU can believe for, cause all things are possible to him that can believe for it.

The truth is that miracle healing do happen through annointed men of God by the power in the word of God and the Holy spirit. We need not look too far to see them. If you do not believe in these healings, well, you will when you need one!

I've always told those who cared to listen. The Nigerian problem is not a leadership problem parse. The Nigerian problem is actually a people problem.

These our leaders all came from amongst us. Its a pity really, but the truth is that our culture has become incomplete without corruption. In every facet of the polity, you see corruption written on the walls. Ribadu was and is still fighting a lost battle.

The situation will not get better, there are still lots of generations coming that must have their share of the loot. Its the order of the system, that's how it runs, that's the only way it will ever be.

I choose to think this way because it allows me a clear mind to construct a great future for myself without blaming or depending on some guy called 'government'. I advise you do the same Ribadu.

Ok I need to throw some more light on this bank marketing topic. Guys, its only in Nigeria where men and women are sent to the streets to canvass for deposits. The true definition of an account officer in the banking industry is; an expert in the client's business field who serves as the bank's eye over that clients' business, monitors and advices the clients as to how best to maximize the bank's funds in his or her business operations.

A marketer (Or rather, Account Officer or Relationship Manager) is actually a professional in a particular industry sector, serving as an adviser to a client's business advisory needs, to ensure the client succeeds in his or her venture with bank funds, not a beggar for money, deposits and favors.

From the description above it is clear why I say banking in Nigeria isnt real. What we now have are Savings and Loans (even though the loans only go to those who already have the money). Gone are the days of the Saving and Loans institutions, they all disappeared because the banks took up their businesses and forgot about their core business of banking which is business advisory and support.

THE FUTURE OF THE NIGERIAN BANKING SECTOR
Do you know the largest bank in Nigeria is just about half the size of the smallest bank in Malaysia. These our financial institutions don't have money they are underfunded. That's why Soludo asked them for 25Billion (which is still far too little). The second reason Nigeria has not moved forward (aside blind and ignorant leadership) is a weak financial or banking sector. See, the banking sector of any nation is the economic driver of that nation. The Nigerian economy is huge and requires real banks to drive it not boy scout banks like we have. The bank owners know this and are only accumulating the wealth they can until the inevitable happens. The bank owners are already positioning themselves for the sellout. This should have started 2009 but for the global financial meltdown.

The HSBCs, CITI GROUP, UBS, RBS and the rest will eventually buy them off. These are the banks that can bring in good spending Dollar, long term funding for training and industrial or real sector development. WATCH OUT!

WORD OF ADVISE
Whatever job it is you're engaged in, grow yourself to excellence. Understand your industry so well that you are the best there is. WHY?, because when they come in, they'll come looking for you. You will be the real banker, advising clients in your industry for the bank.

These banks will not need all the boy scouts who have been running around as marketers, they'll require those who have worked and understood specific industries, they'll need your experience in the capacity of a Relationship Manager OR Accounts Officer to manage clients they will advance huge long term loans to. Get ready, prepare by understanding the business dynamics of your industry, the future banking industry will need you.

Guys wake up!

The newspaper people are not people of authority. Lets not be deceived that because they printed millions of copies of newspapers and circulated them, that means their content are worth reading or its content worth believing. These newspaper houses are the worst institutions in our beloved country. They are instruments of lies, and manipulation. See the way people scrabble to read them like their lives depended on its content.

The vanguard newspaper is no authority to suggest or even define who a legend is, much more a living one. All the names mentioned have their pluses and minuses. But for TRUTH sake, I do not think we have reached a point were they be celebrated as legends, not with the turn of events in the nation, not with the generational failure they instituted.

You want to find legends, look around you and see man who have great multitude of followers who depend on their words and actions for spiritual, economic and inspirational resuscitation. The legends in our midst has to be people talking to us about a hope, teaching us the way, showing us the light out of this shithole.

Trust me, they will never be celebrated in those newspapers. The world was not design to celebrate them, the world was designed to kill them and hang them on crosses of shame. But take a look at the multitudes that rely on these individuals and their institutions for LIFE.

THEY ARE THE TRUE LEGENDS. LIVING OR DEAD, THE LEGEND NEVER DIES, THE MAN MAY DIE, BUT THE LEGACY NEVER DIES.

Forget about those names in the papers. I am so disappointed in some of them who didn't write the newspaper house to delete their names off the list. You are shameless, you want people to clap for your failures, you need help yourself.

MEASURE THE LEGEND BY THE FOLLOWERS AND THE IMPACT OF THEIR IDEALS, STRUCTURES AND INSTITUTIONS THEY HAVE BUILT. Not political or economic institutions.

The truth is that it si better to do the marketing job than do nothing. However, do not plan a career out of it. Banking in Nigeria isnt real, this is not banking in the true sense. Therefore, skill acquired is zero. Fat salaries only expose you to lifestyles your intellectual capacity cannot support.

Watch what will happen in the next couple of years. Brother, sister, if you find a job other than bank marketing, go for it. If bank marketing is all you have or can find, take it and leverage on their brand name and fat pay till you convince one of your clients to take you in. Bottomline, a career of bank marketing is fading and is stereotype offering no direct career exit strategy.

He's ok!