kawkab:

Source: http://saharareporters.com/news-page/pastor-bakare-lampoons-mrs-patience-jonathan

fr_evangel:

Which true compatriots are you talking about? I am an evangelist, I also read and make comments on politics on various blogs and websites daily, but I always no which ground I am speaking from. If I come to your house as an evangelist and start talking politics and Nigeria(not to even mention insulting our president) how would you receive me the second visit? As a bible student, I learnt from David, when he had the opprtunity to kill Saul, he refused and made a very remarkable statement when he said he would not touch the Lord's anointed no matter what. We all know that the Spirit of God had departed from Saul at this time and David himself knew for he was the one brought to play the harp everytime an evil siprit took over Saul. I thought he(Pastor B) should be there praying for the president and the nation. Anyway, since he became a political opponent, I am of the opinion he is no longer in the right position to speak against the president like God is the one speaking.

Kobojunkie:

I didn't say anywhere in my post anything of him contesting elective posts in 15 years. He has been preaching what you consider VENOM today for that long though. So how do you then declare that there is some urgency to his actions here when he has been doing for about 15 years and this particular one is coming after the elections

How do you overthrow a military Government? By conducting a coup? Is that what you wanted him to say then? Really?
Also, now you suggest he is after ND oil? Are you OK?

You can of course call for the removal of a democratically elected Government. The Law says so , so what exactly are you trying to suggest is BAD in doing that?

TechRev:

How do you overthrow change a democratic government before elections?? What ever way he had in mind he should have applied it during abacha and yaradua time but he didnt.

And what did the law say about military government??

Kobojunkie:

I didn't say anywhere in my post anything of him contesting elective posts in 15 years. He has been preaching what you consider VENOM today for that long though. So how do you then declare that there is some urgency to his actions here when he has been doing for about 15 years and this particular one is coming after the elections

How do you overthrow a military Government? By conducting a coup? Is that what you wanted him to say then? Really?
Also, now you suggest he is after ND oil? Are you OK?

You can of course call for the removal of a democratically elected Government. The Law says so , so what exactly are you trying to suggest is BAD in doing that?

Super1759: Please!!! Please!! This man is not a pastor. The qualities of a pastor are just absent.
A pastor should be committed to the well-being of his member spiritually. Preach and win souls for God. He is a shephard and not a political analyst. How can I dress up to church to hear word of God and it turns to political studies.

Kobojunkie:

um . . . again, he can call for the removal of the sitting Government. That is a legal suggestion. However, he cannot do it on his own, and that is probably why he is preaching it to the people in hopes that people will support this in big enough numbers.

If you do not know what military government is about, then may I suggest you do some looking up. You do not elect military government in Nigeria so I don't see why you would think the same ought to apply.

TechRev:

Which legal way can you change a sitting democratic government before general elections??

But he was there when we had military governments that killed people with impunity innocent people for that. and he didnt call for change in Abacha's government. Every government is changed by people, military is changed by people (military men) civil government is changed by people (the masses) so why didnt he call for a change in government during abacha's time or better yaradua time?? Or was Yaradua also a military man??

TechRev:

Which legal way can you change a sitting democratic government before general elections??

But he was there when we had military governments that killed people with impunity innocent people for that. and he didnt call for change in Abacha's government. Every government is changed by people, military is changed by people (military men) civil government is changed by people (the masses) so why didnt he call for a change in government during abacha's time or better yaradua time?? Or was Yaradua also a military man??

phildon: Sorry, bro. Pastor Bakare was outspoken during Yaradua. H[b]e even organised a street protest calling for the swearing in of Gej as acting president.[/b]

phildon: Sorry, bro. Pastor Bakare was outspoken during Yaradua. He even organised a street protest calling for the swearing in of Gej as acting president.

Fhemmmy:

I even forgot about this, so it cant be said that it is against him, but standing for what is right.

TechRev:

Which legal way can you change a sitting democratic government before general elections??

But he was there when we had military governments that killed people with impunity innocent people for that. and he didnt call for change in Abacha's government. Every government is changed by people, military is changed by people (military men) civil government is changed by people (the masses) so why didnt he call for a change in government during abacha's time or better yaradua time?? Or was Yaradua also a military man??

Kobojunkie:

As they have already tried to tell you, Military rule is not Democratic rule. If you really want to know the Legal way to change a sitting democratic Government please check out the Nigerian Constitution, it gives you clear details of how that can be done.

Kpac: Pastor and Politics
Because we've had a pastor so concerned about this country doesn't make him fake. Even in d bible,every of God's prophets were different from eachother and if there's anyone that belives so much in diversity,its God himself.
A pastor is not a robot, as a matter of fact,they are referred to as shepherds.....If nothing bad happens to their sheep,if the grasses are green for their consumption,the water is clean for their cleaning,drugs are available for their treatments,every shepherd would be happy and when he stands and looks at his flock,he would be just so excited and fulfilled.....But when his sheeps are struggling and suffering,thou he maintains calm amongst them,he is ready to fight anything for the sake of his sheeps......
Every sunday morning, pastors are faced with so much difficulties their members are facing,some lost their lives due to bad roads,some are lying sick for months at the hospital due to poor health infrastructures,some had their shops demolished due to strict goverment measures,some had dropped out from school because the school fees have been increased by 150%,some have just lost their jobs,some are in critical condition just because they unsuspectedly took fake drugs obtained in a chemist,some are jobless for months,running into years,despite having a bachelor's degree,some came announing their intention to return back to the village because the house rent has toppled and some of the members have their life savings forced out of them as fines paid because they were caught passing one way,in a bid to avoid making his only car break down in an unpassable water logged very deep pit on his own normal lane..........
If you are a good shepherd and your sheep suffers any of these and still hears the president of your country spends about 40 Million naira daily on food,newspapers,diesel and drinks,I wonder how you would still be able to look into your sheep faces,open your bible and again preach to them hope,when its glaring the hardships are due to poor governance.
Even from the old testaments,God has always being actively involved in politics.
If your own pastor doesn't talk about politics at all and anotherr do,please do not criticize,they have their difference in their calling,in their nature and in their life phylosophies.

TechRev:

After it was obvious Yaradua was so ill he cant even speak or sign budget. Why didnt he call for change in his government before yaradua's health deteriorated to that point??
I am not even against him calling for change in government, just why doesnt he want it done during election??

Fhemmmy:

Why would he be calling for the removal of a president when he has not really done anything.
He fought for justice when the dying president is still allowed to be ruling to create a hole in our leadeship.
During the election, how cld u talk of removal of someone that is yet to rule wrong, now that we have been under the leadership of GEJ for some years and the nation is going from bad to worse, you want him to sit and watch?
so was it a plot against him too that they planning to impeach GEJ?

TechRev:

I have not seen where it is in the constitution, please help me with that info.

phildon: As much as I cherish the uprightedness of our amiable Pastor, I am honestly disapointed in his attack on the humble upbringing of GEJ and his wife. All he said about this govt are right though.

Kobojunkie:

Have you ever even seen or read your Constitution(the law of the land)?

Anywho, here is the link to the Constitution, do a quick search on impeachment and read up. It is really in plain English

http://www.nigeria-law.org/ConstitutionOfTheFederalRepublicOfNigeria.htm

TechRev:

Bakare didnt talk about impeachment did he?? i missed that.

karl max: Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God. -Matthew 5.9.this what my bible tells me.

Pastor bakare what peace initiative or suggestion have you made since boko haram menace started?

If your a christian and your in support of pastor bakare's violent and hate filled messages during and after the presidential election,can you point out where in the NEW TESTAMENT were jesus christ or any prophet of God preached this massage of hate that pastor bakare dish out to his congregation every sunday?.why would a man of God preach messages that are aimed at causing havoc and dishamony,all because of his greedy ambition to become vice president!.as far as I know there is no where in the bible where a Prophet of God is a FULLTIME POLITICIAN!!!those christians supporting him should prove me wrong. On this thread some people used martin luther king jr to justify what bakare, martin luther king didnt not preach any hate or incited people with his massage and most of all he was not a FULLTIME POLITICIAN like pastor bakare.

O.D.B.:
State Government Perm. Sec or Senator.

When Tinibu stole a seat from Lagosians and gave it to his wife where were all of you anti-patience?

Is Patience the only first Lady we've had? When Turai was busy running this country through bribes and avarices where were you haters?

How about Mrs. Abach and Mrs. Babangida? Where they not more larger than life when their husbands were in office?

Just say you hate the average Ijaw or south-south individual.

Fhemmmy:

Why would he be calling for the removal of a president when he has not really done anything.
He fought for justice when the dying president is still allowed to be ruling to create a hole in our leadeship.
During the election, how cld u talk of removal of someone that is yet to rule wrong, now that we have been under the leadership of GEJ for some years and the nation is going from bad to worse, you want him to sit and watch?
so was it a plot against him too that they planning to impeach GEJ?

tunnytox:

Do you understand the meaning of the words hate and violent or you just want to make mockery of yourself by using these words?
Jonathan,his wife and their PDP conspirators are running Nigeria like their personal estate for their own benefits alone, PTB preached aginst this and you called it a message of hate and violence? since when did the torturer prevents the tortured from crying?

TechRev:

And what did GEJ do?? because he is from a humble background?? cause that was what his statement said.

TechRev:

And what did GEJ do?? because he is from a humble background?? cause that was what his statement said.