8ogoegbunam: Religious belief is a major factor in marriage. If I had known that she will turn out this way, I would not have married her

Kasham annie: Y are men dis weaked nw u want 2 lie abt her goin 2 catholic dat d rev. Is her ex stop decivin urself jst put it in prayaz dat at least once in a while she shud go 2ur church it hasnt goten 2d point of divorce dnt make any sily mistake u wud regreat or are u recuiting members 4 ur church u are nt even happy she's a christian na una type muslim gurls dey convert "hisssss"

Sisi_Kill:

There is nothing I find more amusing than someone making a case for the person they are arguing against.

Kobo said what OP wants to do is not Biblical and this dude decides to regal us with stories about how "church elders" are doing things, which is soooooo different from what is in the bible and that's his proof that Kobo does not know the bible??

Hehehehehe. . .this is why we tell some people to take the time out to read the Bible themselves and stop buying hook, line and sinker what the Pastors say the Bible says

sylve11:

If I say u need to go back to primary sch, what are u going to say?

MRbrownJAY: @OP
if that was the reason why you got married, and she is not willing to comply (while you did your part) then there is no other ways than to divorce this deceitful woman.
you have absolutely no evidence of her cheating on you, so keep to facts rather than fiction.

shaybe baby:
It is in your opinion but I am saying there are other factors as well. This is but one of many issues you will face in your union. Should we chuck our partners everytime there's a difference of opinion or try to work around those differences. Are you saying that if she attends the same church as you but is a total b**ch at home you'd be happier? She has every right to her faith as do you, it is a fundermental human right. If you can't respect each other, free each other and look for someone who shares the same faith with you but don't go thinking that marriage will be more successful. It might not and what will you do in that instance? Love the person you are with.

DeAdvocate: All of una jst dey talk bulshit. D guy is nt married. He's just tryin to raise heated denominational arguements. Shun dis fucking thread. Ekwusigokwa m

DeAdvocate: All of una jst dey talk bulshit. D guy is nt married. He's just tryin to raise heated denominational arguements. Shun dis fucking thread. Ekwusigokwa m

Ayee Idris: @ Catholic fatherS are supposed to be celibate, so unless you have some real evidence that she is cheating, don't give the immature minds on the forum a chance to insult your wife.

Ayee Idris: @Op, you started this forum, stating that your wife is a wonderful and loving woman. So does the fact that she doesn't attend your church, suddenly make her the devil?. Not a christain, so I don't understand the church affiliations thing. But I do know one or two things about marriage. You also said once that your wife said that she would follow you to your church if you accompany her sometimes to hers. Marriage is compromise. Marriage is tolerance. Marriage is understanding. You keep saying she deceived u. Can u honestly say that you have NEVER gone back on your word or changed your mind about something. We are human. We are flawed creatures. As a married couple, you can't both be set in your ways and compromise is not an act exclusive to the wife. You are both christains. Not Catholics or Anglican, both christains. Never forget that.
Bringing up your wife's age was unnecessary and has subjected her to ridicule from people who don't know the first thing about being married. I expected you to have reacted when people were saying degoratory things about a woman you claim to love, but I think that's what you want. Catholic fatherS are supposed to be celibate, so unless you have some real evidence that she is cheating, don't give the immature minds on the forum a chance to insult your wife.

lanre_front:

Clearly you are the one that is ignorant. You think being philsophical and an independent and free-minded thinker makes you think you know the Bible.

Sure, we are to study the Bible ourselves and not idolize men of God.

Sure; but you think you know than men of God over the ages that have served God almost all their lives and made great sacrifices for God, even with their very lives . So all of them don't know anything. You are the one that really knows. Even Paul in the Bible, an Elder and Apostle listed some conditions where the wife or husband is permitted to re-marry without any guilt on their part. But you guys just keep on quoting one part of the you probably heard from somewhere since it has become a slogan.

Then any reasonable person who reads my post will definitely see sense in it even if she or her is not completely convinced. The fact that you completely disregarded everything with total disdain says this:

I believe people like you are hypocritical. I'm sure if you got married in the church to a guy, who deceived you that he is a graduate, a christian, a business man whose business is into oil and gas. Within 6 months of marriage, you discover he is an AMORC and has a secret shrine in his house, he really his a drug-pusher and a weapon and arms dealer, he has three children from women he never married and far from what being a christian, he infacts hates christianity and pastors and anything that has to with God with a passion. Infact, he can't stand you praying.

When you confront him, he says it's all true and so what about it. He says you are his wife now and you do what he says.

I've been reading your posts and thread for a while I can fairly guage your temperance and your kind of person. I'm sure even before the church makes a decision, you would have made your own decision and absconded.

And don't even start by saying such can never happen to you because that's just nonsense. It has happened to men and women that are probably more intellectually advanced and wiser than you. It has even happened to some women who are leaders of big christian ministry.

And by the way, the church leader who I said has been sitting down with other leaders to consider annul marriages where the husband is an unrepentant wife beater with clearly no hope or intention of changing is Pastor Ashimolowo. Please let me hear you say he does not know the Bible or that he is a fake man of God. They are doing this because of an increasing number of women who are being killed in their homes by the very man who is to protect them. Revelation is continous and the some changes do not necessarily changes the basic fundamentals of the Bible and God's laws.

An example of your one-sided shallow bible-knowledge, but take heart because you are not in it alone:

You shout here God says in the Bible "I hate divorce". But in the same Old Testament Bible, God gave to Moses laws concerning the process by which Isrealite men should follow in divorcing their wives. Did you know that? If you say it's a lie I will search and post that section of the Bible. Can't remember off-hand now.

Even in the LETTERS of Paul to the Church, there was a part where he was making giving judgement on a matter and he said as he is talking, even though he has not received direct orders from God, he says as an upright Apostle of God (he goes on to list his credentials) that is filled with His spirit, he is speaking the mind of God and everyone can take that to the bank.

But I will agree the rise in theses times, all sorts of fake ministers have not made the matter simple as it was then. But it does not change the fact that elders
leaders in the church do make decsions like that and they've making for a long time. No be today. Granted Paul case was special he really really was of one mind with God. He infact was first among the Apostles even though he met Jesus physically. But I'm not speaking of a single church leader making decision here. We are talking of several who have steadfastness and are credible men of God, spirit-filled coming together. As iron sharpeneth iron, so does mind sharpeneth minds. So you think the Spirit if God won't be present in their forum? You think they are being led of the devil and not of God? You think God will not reckon with whatever they come up with as long as it does not contradict his Word. God is no respecter of person, but he is a honour-er of men and he honours his chosen ones.

Did you know that at a time, church leaders all over the world, spirit-filled men, gathered and decided which books to remove from the Bible and which book stays. They were almost going to remove the Songs of Solomon but in the end they included it back because through rubbing of minds, they came realize that it depicted the kind of love that christ had for the church. Does God not confirm today that the Bible is His word through many ways.

Like I said, stop thinking you are an epitome of Bible-knowledge. If you were a lawyer I would have called you a baby-lawyer.

Kobojunkie:

Again, in the Bible there are no separate rules for those you call elders and your person. The bible says everyone will be judged from the same book . .. all the names of your elders, your lords and you will be written in the same book. The same rules, the laws in the bible, will you be judged by. So, all you keep typing is balderdahs if it does not even stand up against what is in the bible. You might as well tell us that you are in a cult where hierarchy matters because no where in the Church are you told that the pastor or elder will have to answer for your beliefs. You have access to the Bible, read it and learn of God. .. . not expect another man to spoon feed up what he regurgitates and then think that exempts you from responsibility as a Child of God. Notice: We are all called as Sons of God -- none greater than the others . . . . So, if you choose the way of your elders and not the way of God, then if they go to hell, you go to hell too.

The Bible is really clear of what works in the marriage contract --- what God hath joined together, let no man(no man would include your elders here) put asunder . . . Or is it that you have never read that verse before? Or do you have a special verse that you use to NULLIFY the command therein?

8ogoegbunam: Thanks all for your advice. I married her in the catholic church due to her plea to me that we should please her parents who are staunch catholics. My grouse is that she lied to me that she will change her sect once we are married.I am a very spiritual person, I have my reservation about the catholic church. I respect all christians and muslims. Everyone have a right to belong to any faith. I believe that the spiritual atmosphere of my home have been poisoned. I have dreams and precepts that guide my life and marriage. I even gave her the choice to pick any of the numerous pentecostal churches were both of us can attend as a couple. Yet she insisted on cathlic church or nothing.am not a sect fanatic, but I believe a couple and kids should attend same sect.

My frnd I get wot ur saying bt d truth is dat whether its d catholic church or protestant we r supsd 2 b servin d same God. If ur grouse is dat she lied hv u confronted her to ask d reason for such behaviour?I notived u mentioned the fact dat shez 36 n may nt b able 2 hv kids
I jst tink dats u making an excuse for an imagined slight 2 u. Marriage is partnership if u n ur spouse cnt sit 2 talk tings out lik partners in d same boat n come 2 a conclusion u mit find urself marryin again n divorcing 4 anoda imagined slight

lanre_front:

I give up; your case is hopeless. You are not arguing intellectually. The goal of your argument can summed up this : I must win him, he no fit win me lailai.

First, there was nothing in what I wrote that suggested that the rules that applies to elders or leaders in church are different to the ones that apply to other christians.

Your mind is closed. You are determined to believe only what you wish to believe.

You are still doing what I talked about; u take just one passage out of the bible and you go ahead and make a doctrine out it. You say "what God has joined together, let no man put asunder" and ask whether I've not seen it. Ofcourse I've seen it, but the difference between you and me, and those who have a correct or balance perspective of the Bible and those who don't is that, one build a whole doctrine on marriage on just a quotation in the Bible while the other goes through the entire bible and takes into cognizance everything that has been said on the subject.

Did you hear me say God instructions to Moses on how Isrealites were to divorce their wives. Did you hear what I said Paul in one his letters when answering questions on divorce. He gave conditions under which a christian man or woman remarry without guilt.

But no, you only take one thing and fixate on that one thing. Whenever you want to discover truth in the bible concerning a certain topic, you take as a whole all the bible says about the subject. You dont take a portion or few passages and fixate on them.

Kobojunkie:

Again, in the Bible there are no separate rules for those you call elders and your person. The bible says everyone will be judged from the same book . .. all the names of your elders, your lords and you will be written in the same book. The same rules, the laws in the bible, will you be judged by. So, all you keep typing is balderdahs if it does not even stand up against what is in the bible. You might as well tell us that you are in a cult where hierarchy matters because no where in the Church are you told that the pastor or elder will have to answer for your beliefs. You have access to the Bible, read it and learn of God. .. . not expect another man to spoon feed up what he regurgitates and then think that exempts you from responsibility as a Child of God. Notice: We are all called as Sons of God -- none greater than the others . . . . So, if you choose the way of your elders and not the way of God, then if they go to hell, you go to hell too.

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