Acidosis:

lol.. my sister, hope you're good?

well, you almost convinced me but I still have this feeling.. (may be its personal).

Then in school, we love it when lecturers teach with laptops & ipads, infact I did a lot on powerpoint for myself and colleagues each time we have a seminar to present..

But what I don't like is seeing a pastor ON PULPIT touching the screen of a gadget at the same time talking to the congregation..

My sister, Have you ever imagine a church where members hold their blackberry phones, ipads, and other tablets and phones?

Some people tag it poverty.lol. maybe they will also call Adeboye, Kumuyi, & Oyedepo poor men for not using ipads on pulpit.

So many pastors are now on facebook etc. They own these gadgets. They tend to impact lives on air and web
BUT you will never see it on pulpit.
Fashion, is the reason why many are doing this..

"Steve Jobb" stole Moses' slate and upgraded it to an iPad. So, no offense.

Tinyemeka:

When your bible is torn, you replace it.

Please get my point. What is the i-Pad actually designed for? That the bible and other related apps are made available on a mobile device is a very good thing. But the i-pad was primarily designed for mobile computing, entertainment, gaming, etc.

We come to church to receive the word of God, worship and be refreshed. But that i-Pad is better used in a place where it won't constitute a distraction to other members of the congregation. My church has a cine projector but how can that be distracting, when what is being shown on the big screen are bible passages and other messages which the speaker intends to pass across?

Bro honestly, once someone whips out an i-Pad or other device in the church and starts flipping away, those around him/her are bound to focus their attention on that person. Brief seconds albeit, but that shouldn't have arisen in the first place. Just as phone calls should not be made inside the church. Now where the church leader is the one who engages in this practice, every other person will follow.

All I am saying is that, there are aids which are being EFFECTIVELY used in the propagation of the Gospel (cine projectors, satellite TV, podcasts, etc), but the use of an i-Pad, laptop in place of the bible on the pulpit, is an over-kill. Bordering on pursuit of materialism.

spicy v:

you are one θf my favourite brothers on NL. You don dey drag no. One position sef. I see your point but I don't get distracted by such sha.

Tinyemeka:

When your bible is torn, you replace it.

Please get my point. What is the i-Pad actually designed for? That the bible and other related apps are made available on a mobile device is a very good thing. But the i-pad was primarily designed for mobile computing, entertainment, gaming, etc.

We come to church to receive the word of God, worship and be refreshed. But that i-Pad is better used in a place where it won't constitute a distraction to other members of the congregation. My church has a cine projector but how can that be distracting, when what is being shown on the big screen are bible passages and other messages which the speaker intends to pass across?

Bro honestly, once someone whips out an i-Pad or other device in the church and starts flipping away, those around him/her are bound to focus their attention on that person. Brief seconds albeit, but that shouldn't have arisen in the first place. Just as phone calls should not be made inside the church. Now where the church leader is the one who engages in this practice, every other person will follow.

All I am saying is that, there are aids which are being EFFECTIVELY used in the propagation of the Gospel (cine projectors, satellite TV, podcasts, etc), but the use of an i-Pad, laptop in place of the bible on the pulpit, is an over-kill. Bordering on pursuit of materialism.

swiftycool: @poster u must be getting old, y not look 4 an old school church where u have as limited access to any form of information to suit u. I bet if u were alive in Jesus times u would have criticized him from reading scripture from scrolls instead of them being carved in stone like the 10commandments in Moses' times. Pastors unlike u think, are trained to be desciplined and are not hooked on facebook, tweeter, beebo or Nl like u hence won't be distracted so chill out. Everything created should be used to bring out God's glory including technology!

Acidosis:
I don't want to believe you're a christian. But if you are, then I'll like you to define the context.. "old school" and "new school".

Only in your "new school" church would a man glorify the almighty God with everything created by a man.

m.k.o2005:

Before now,wen you bring out a mobile phone any where say bus,mosque,streets or church,people get distracted.So it is with some kind of bible these days ! But with time,pple started purchasing every kinds of sophisticated phones and distractions as a result of seen a new kind of different phones went into oblivion.I tell us,a time will come when no one will care if you as a teacher of the word uses
I-phone,I-pad and the likes.If some of these men of God do it to impress,it concerns them and not me.Some dnt use any of those devices including laptops not because it's sinful or expensive and not affordable but may be they are not just comfortable with it.It's possible they can't flow when they are on it just like me.The first time i saw a modern projector in church with all the biblical inscriptions on it,i remembered SUPER NINJA i once watched in a Cinema.And all attention was on the projector and not the word of God.You see,but as time goes on,i came to terms with the projector bein in church.Just like havin a T.V in church to display what's been aired,people can never be distracted becos of their familiarity with it.
These devices in themselves aren't bad but it's what you do with them par time.Taking a magazine to church isn't bad at all but the issue will be what i do with it at that time.May be to wrap my bible,or to scribble some words of God on it or may be to read up other issues while the word of God is on.People say taking a cell phone to church isn't proper.Not that it is sinful but becos of the possible distractions it might cause for you,hence the advised to keep it away or switch off.If u can switch off,why bring it to
church ? For me as a shipper,i put on silence so as to see any distress call either from the office even or from my clients who work even on sundays.The phones aren't necessarily asked to put away so as not to only distract but other worshipers but becos of a possible incoming calls and NOT BECOS PEOPLE WILL BE CARRIED AWAY BECOS OF THE SOPHISTICATION OF UR PHONE.-No it isn't.If people till date still get distracted by high tech phones in church,then they will get distracted at the style of church buildings,fixtures and fittings,the pulpit,the set of musical instruments,the robe of the Reverend,the suit of the pastors, choristers,ushers,new members,female and male alike,and infact virtually everything in church.Ok,becos there are people who will be distracted by all these things,are we then to keeep those things away and may be not have church service any more ?God forbid.Let's not contradict the word of God at anytime and try to help new converts who can't keep up with developments that positive.

THE BELOW QUESTIONS SHOULD BE DURRING ISSUES LIKE THIS:
Are there consequences using gadgets(Projector,I-Pad,I-phone,Laptop) in church to propagate the word of God ?
How grave are the consequences ?

Answer the above two questions to urself but if you are still not ok as regards what the practice should be,read below scripture am sure you will be convinced regarding this issue.I pray the holy spirit helps us all. ROMANS 14:1-23
Thanks

Acidosis:
I don't want to believe you're a christian. But if you are, then I'll like you to define the context.. "old school" and "new school".

Only in your "new school" church would a man glorify the almighty God with everything created by a man.

Acidosis:
A typical Nigerian mentality.

Gadgetmobil: If at all am 2 talk pls den permit me.Am a Pastor n am very active w NL,its howeva disheartenin 2 c d way pple jump up 2 accuse Pastors n annointed men of God @ every chance.I rily do plead dat u all b watchful of wat u say mst esp.
Not digressing frm d pt,Imagine a message u need 5 versions of d bible,knowing dat 98% of ur members r w KJV?dat wud mean as u r steppin 2 d altar 5 pple wud usher u in w 5 fat bibles.Dat wud b very ridiculous n forlorn.
Using tablets compresses almost all available versions not 2 even mention d grk n heb versions.Its not 4 effizy at all,cos d more content n quality u pour in2 ur members d richer deir understandin n thinkin.n u no d bible says as a man tinketh...
Also u find it easy 2 flip btw ur bible n ur notes giving u a smooth service.
Y shud I board d ship lik Peter 2 evangelise in europe when I cud use a plane or beta still sit in my office n preach 2 d world on TV n d internet.
Nutin gud cums frm d devil so if technology is gud y shud d church reject it?
My church is international n we r covering many nations w tremendous speed because of technology.When we hav urgent meetings which requires our Pastors globally we use skype n get an even beta ezxperience.Or talk abt havin a communion service n every1 is takin wine n bread same time cos of satellite tv.
We r d Victors of dis world n r 2 rule ova d earth.
Tak charge @ OP n buy ur Pastor an Ipad den tell us d exp sum sundays after.

Acidosis: Some Pastors now want to rely on all the new technological gizmos. Personally, I'll be offended..don't like the idea of Pastors preaching after downloading series of ebooks, and bible pages from the net.

Its nothing but a distraction Satan is using to cause many not to listen to the voice of God. Texting, playing games, surfing the internet, etc., but if you have the Bible open, you cannot just push a button or touchscreen and surf, etc.

Imaging praying and casting out demons with ipad..?

&

Can the members also drop their Bible? atleast they have Bible apps on their phones

okpara ugo: My pastor preaches from an Ipad every sunday. Infact there is no modern phone or gadget the guy doesnt have. Name them, latest gadgets from Apple, Samsung and HTC. 8mega pixel double face camera phones brekete. If you are not careful, you would go green with envy.

It doesnt concern me. My own is to make heaven.

x Jayson x: I totally agree with you threadstarter. I personally believe a real Man of God is supposed to use his "Holy Bible" to pray/preach and should never use any form of gadget to do like wise.

Nairaface: But it doesn't have to be in print form to be Holy now, does it? I see the point about possible distractions, but there is also an argument for ease of navigation and access to a plethora of resources from an electronic device. Driving a car may cause a fatal accident; yet, we drive.

Let's not focus on nonissues when there are more important things going on around us.

x Jayson x:

I personally believe it's better of in printed form. Almost all published Bibles you see have been prayed upon/blessed by strong Men of God. When i was a catholic, it "is" advisable that anything we bought from church such as rosary, simple prayer book, bibles, etc should be prayed/blessed by the Priests/Reverend Fathers before you use them. Why i quoted the word is, is because it's still practiced up till date and i also vividly recall reading and hearing stories of how bibles saved Christians from witches and accidents but can it be said of an iPad?

spicy v:

How do you know he has all these Sir? Even if you be chief protocol officer. Hmm watch it man! The Spirit θf envy has silently crept in and you aren't even aware!

x Jayson x:

I personally believe it's better of in printed form. Almost all published Bibles you see have been prayed upon/blessed by strong Men of God. When i was a catholic, it "is" advisable that anything we bought from church such as rosary, simple prayer book, bibles, etc should be prayed/blessed by the Priests/Reverend Fathers before you use them. Why i quoted the word is, is because it's still practiced up till date and i also vividly recall reading and hearing stories of how bibles saved Christians from witches and accidents but can it be said of an iPad?

x Jayson x: I totally agree with you threadstarter. I personally believe a real Man of God is supposed to use his "Holy Bible" to pray/preach and should never use any form of gadget to do like wise.

okpara ugo:

Your response isn't sound. When you are close to a person, you can know what gadgets they make use of. Maybe you arent close to your pastor.

I go places and take holidays with my pastor as a good member I am. Moreover none of these things takes a man to heaven. Ipad or no Ipad.

Please read my signature and dont be insulting.

Lord_Reed:

So what stops you from taking your ipad to be blessed?

Nairaface: And what stops anyone from blessing an iPad? Do you think God will not sanctify it because it is an iPad? I wouldn't even ask why you think a man of God has better access to God than you possibly can. According to my bible, the only intermediary to God is Christ. I think you are more concerned about how it looks to the church members who can not afford an iPad than you are of, say, the potential distractions. To that, and in the spirit of Bible, I say Prov 14:23, Eccles. 3:13, Jude 1:16. If you allow yourself to be oppressed by another's possessions, take heed that you don't remain indigent. As a man thinketh, so is he. Trust me, I know Nigerians, I know there's a chance that that pastor's goal was effizy. People need to stop getting excited over material things.

ignis:
Why shouldn't a real man of God use stone or scroll that was used during the time of the prophets and Jesus respectively? Why must it be 'paper bible'?

x Jayson x:

The chapters and verses were so numerous that no stone/scroll could consist it. They were all wrapped up into The Holy Bible.

Lord_Reed:

C'mon stop this! The scrolls on which the original manuscripts of the Bible were written were not paper! They were not printed they were hand written! Technological progress is what has brought the Bible to you in printed form and that same progress will carry it beyond printed material.

So the only reason your ipad can't be blessed is because no one else has done it?