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Re: Do You Consider Somalis As Black? by sambos994(m): 2:07am On Aug 02, 2013
somalia11:


well i thought we were talking about historical accomplishments. anyway, somalia today has some of africas best universities. and unlike the capital the rest of the county hasnt been destroyed by war, go read.

Still, no one wants to go there. I've seen Mogadishu...not impressed
Re: Do You Consider Somalis As Black? by somalia11: 2:16am On Aug 02, 2013
sambos994:

Somalia has about 80 universities while we have over 120


and you slayed yourself right there.

Somalia has 10 million people, Nigeria has over 170 million people

nigeria is 17x bigger, so you should have 1,360 universities just to be equal in population


so obviously we have more universities per person, 17x more.


Dont even start me about the history and accomplishments of somalis (1 ethnicity) vs all you nigerians
Re: Do You Consider Somalis As Black? by sambos994(m): 6:11am On Aug 02, 2013
somalia11:


and you slayed yourself right there.

Somalia has 10 million people, Nigeria has over 170 million people

nigeria is 17x bigger, so you should have 1,360 universities just to be equal in population


so obviously we have more universities per person, 17x more.


Dont even start me about the history and accomplishments of somalis (1 ethnicity) vs all you nigerians

Yet im living 17x better than your people.
Re: Do You Consider Somalis As Black? by somalia11: 9:51am On Aug 02, 2013
sambos994:

Yet im living 17x better than your people.




lool, no ur not, if we got 17x more universities that means we have people who go to school and get higher education.


What a miserable failure.
Re: Do You Consider Somalis As Black? by sambos994(m): 6:19pm On Aug 02, 2013
somalia11:


lool, no ur not, if we got 17x more universities that means we have people who go to school and get higher education.


What a miserable failure.

Your country's still s**t so how is your universities helping you people? Since you people are so educated why don't you rebuild Somalia yourselves instead to asking Turkey for your help? What important Somali is out their? The thinking process of you people amazing me. South Africa with the amount of universities as Somalia is more a lot more developed than Somalia.
Re: Do You Consider Somalis As Black? by somalia11: 11:42pm On Aug 02, 2013
sambos994:

Your country's still s**t so how is your universities helping you people? Since you people are so educated why don't you rebuild Somalia yourselves instead to asking Turkey for your help? What important Somali is out their? The thinking process of you people amazing me. South Africa with the amount of universities as Somalia is more a lot more developed than Somalia.


south africa didnt have 20 years of no government idioot

Turkey is helpint somalia cause we are a muslim country, turkey and somalia have been allies since the 1500's when we fought against the portugese and ethiopians.


turkey is trAinint the police and military as those are public institutions that have suffered because of no government, where the somali universities are private.


Turkey is helping build the capital, as the rest of somalia hasnt suffered as worse as mogadishu





am very nigeria gets help too, every country that is poor gets assistance at some point
Re: Do You Consider Somalis As Black? by sambos994(m): 1:29am On Aug 03, 2013
somalia11:


south africa didnt have 20 years of no government idioot

Turkey is helpint somalia cause we are a muslim country, turkey and somalia have been allies since the 1500's when we fought against the portugese and ethiopians.


turkey is trAinint the police and military as those are public institutions that have suffered because of no government, where the somali universities are private.


Turkey is helping build the capital, as the rest of somalia hasnt suffered as worse as mogadishu





am very nigeria gets help too, every country that is poor gets assistance at some point

And were would you be without Turkey?
Re: Do You Consider Somalis As Black? by somalia11: 1:49am On Aug 03, 2013
sambos994:

And were would you be without Turkey?


lol, turkey is helping somalia a muslim country that it has a 500 years of history with. Turkey and Egypt are only speeding up somalia's military quickly than if somalia did it by itself. Somalia's and muslim countries fate are tied together. Somalia is located in one of the most strategic places. It is the southern most point of arabian access point, where oil and trade goes to europe, through suez canal in egypt.

but you guys dont know what an ally is as everyone who came to your 'country' took you as slaves.


where would your people be without the usa giving hiv medications.

Re: Do You Consider Somalis As Black? by sambos994(m): 2:35am On Aug 03, 2013
somalia11:


lol, turkey is helping somalia a muslim country that it has a 500 years of history with. Turkey and Egypt are only speeding up somalia's military quickly than if somalia did it by itself. Somalia's and muslim countries fate are tied together. Somalia is located in one of the most strategic places. It is the southern most point of arabian access point, where oil and trade goes to europe, through suez canal in egypt.

but you guys dont know what an ally is as everyone who came to your 'country' took you as slaves.


where would your people be without the usa giving hiv medications.

We're doing pretty fine without US help. Unlike you people we solve our own problems or at least trying to. When Al-Shabaab was rampant the likes of Kenya, Ethiopia, Uganda, etc had to help. Here we have Boko Haram and we don't beg anyone for help.

And as for you and your Arab friends:

Somalia:Racism at the Arab League


UK-LONDON-Mareeg.com-Somalia was a member of the Arab League since 1974, the same year Palestinian PLO joined the League. Somalia is devastated by civil war since 1990’s and continues to hemorrhage. More than 750,000 Somalis lost their lives and more than 3.3 millions are homeless. The organization’s 21 Arab nations with the exception of Djibouti have failed to attempt a single reconciliation effort. The United Nations, European Union, African Union and United States made some effort to get the best possible solution given the circumstances which culminated to the election of moderate leader Sharif Ahmed as president and transitional federal government was formed 9 months ago. To make this effort work, the UN nations appealed financial support and help from donor nations including the Arab League which includes the oil riche nations of Gulf Arab states such as Saudi Arabia, Qatar, U.A.E, Kuwait, Iraq, Algeria, Libya and other influential Arab states such as Egypt . So far the Arab League has delivered only one (1) Million US dollars for the African Union Mission in Somalia and zero dollars for the Somali Transitional Federal Government. Compare this disparity with the money provided by Arab League to rebuilding Gaza in Palestine for the recent Israeli devastation. Saudi Arabia provided one (1) Billion US dollars, Qatar $250 million and Algeria $100 million in addition to more than 7.5 Billion Euros pledged for Palestine by the members of the Arab League and European Union countries. The Arab League provided ten times more relief and donation to Sri Lankan Tamil a Buddhist nation with no connections to the Arab League than Somalia. In fact some Arab League members are being recently discovered to have indirectly funneling money to the Somali Al-Shabab and Hisbul Islam through Eritrea, a terrorist organization toppling the Somali transitional government who carried out the recent suicide bombing that four government ministers and students were killed.

What crime does Somalia committed to deserve such an utter neglect from the Arab League? Why are some Arab League members working against the current Transitional Federal Government when they have failed to organize and sponsor a single reconciliation conference? Why Somali citizens in rich Gulf Arab countries are being deported to war torn country while it is against all international convention relating to the status of refugees. Why the Arab League are not transporting relief aid to millions of displaced refugees suffering in subhuman conditions in Kenya, Ethiopia and Yemeni borders. Where is the relief effort of the Arab League? Why African Union troops are on the ground in Somalia but there is no single Arab country willing to support? Is the Arab League waiting a call from Obama or Hillary Clinton to respond?
The inaction of the Arab League and member countries is shocking when it comes to Somalia a member country that the League can have a positive effect with very little financial support and political support. Somalia has done its share to assist the mission of the Arab League over decades. It is high time for the Arab League to do some soul searching and re-evaluate its conduct and absence in the Somali conflict or is it Somalis are too dark to be a member of this exclusive club?

http://www.mareeg.com/fidsan.php?sid=14512&tirsan=3
Re: Do You Consider Somalis As Black? by somalia11: 2:38am On Aug 03, 2013
that guy who wrote that is somali guy who favors somalis leaving the arab league.

in his argument he says we should leave becasue the arab league is ineffective.


1. arab league didnt help Libya, Palestine, Iraq, Yemen, or Somalia from getting bombed by americans.


So it has nothing to do with singling somalis, it has to do with the fact that arab league is not very strong.

but it has given billions of dollars in the past 20 years to somalia.


Funny using an editorial of a guy who has an agenda to make an futile argument.


1. Arabs do support somalia. some just support Alshabaab while others support the government.
Re: Do You Consider Somalis As Black? by sambos994(m): 2:41am On Aug 03, 2013
somalia11: that guy who wrote that is somali guy who favors somalis leaving the arab league.

in his argument he says we should leave becasue the arab league is ineffective.


1. arab league didnt help Libya, Palestine, Iraq, Yemen, or Somalia from getting bombed by americans.


So it has nothing to do with singling somalis, it has to do with the fact that arab league is not very strong.

but it has given billions of dollars in the past 20 years to somalia.


Funny using an editorial of a guy who has an agenda to make an futile argument.


1. Arabs do support somalia. some just support Alshabaab while others support the government.




Yep, joining a weak institution, great idea! grin
Re: Do You Consider Somalis As Black? by somalia11: 2:46am On Aug 03, 2013
sambos994:

Yep, joining a weak institution, great idea! grin

we joined for the economic benefits. its much more of a trade organization now, as the leaders of the countries are mostly dictators and dont have any political clout to stand up to the west.


but somalia is democratic country, our leader has more clout as his not afraid of being overthrown, he was elected.


i wouldnt question somalis motives as historically speaking we have been free of invasions and foreigners unlike you guys.

its like an obese person giving tips on exercise. Somalia has a longer history and culture than nigeria. So sit yourself down.
Re: Do You Consider Somalis As Black? by sambos994(m): 2:52am On Aug 03, 2013
somalia11:

we joined for the economic benefits. its much more of a trade organization now, as the leaders of the countries are mostly dictators and dont have any political clout to stand up to the west.


but somalia is democratic country, our leader has more clout as his not afraid of being overthrown, he was elected.


i wouldnt question somalis motives as historically speaking we have been free of invasions and foreigners unlike you guys.

its like an obese person giving tips on exercise. Somalia has a longer history and culture than nigeria. So sit yourself down.

HAHA! That's a nice way of saying aid.

I haven't said one thing about Somali history.
Re: Do You Consider Somalis As Black? by somalia11: 2:56am On Aug 03, 2013
sambos994:

HAHA! That's a nice way of saying aid.

I haven't said one thing about Somali history.


not aid, acess to oil markets, and trade. Somalia has certain minerals that only we have,
Re: Do You Consider Somalis As Black? by sambos994(m): 3:11am On Aug 03, 2013
somalia11:


not aid, acess to oil markets, and trade. Somalia has certain minerals that only we have,

Your main export Sheep/Livestock, Bananas, charcoal, Fish, and scrap metal....not really important exports.

Anyway, I don't know why you people are so proud to join the Arab League.
Re: Do You Consider Somalis As Black? by somalia11: 3:14am On Aug 03, 2013
sambos994:

Your main export Sheep/Livestock, Bananas, charcoal, Fish, and scrap metal....not really important exports.

Anyway, I don't know why you people are so proud to join the Arab League.


somalia has more livestock then people, we export goats, camels, sheep, to the entire middle east.

We are not proud, we just know we need allies against Ethiopia. Ethiopia uses africans as its allies even though you guys are seen as 'baria' slaves to them.

So somalis use arabs, turks, north africans, and other muslims.
Re: Do You Consider Somalis As Black? by sambos994(m): 3:18am On Aug 03, 2013
somalia11:


somalia has more livestock then people, we export goats, camels, sheep, to the entire middle east.

We are not proud, we just know we need allies against Ethiopia. Ethiopia uses africans as its allies even though you guys are seen as 'baria' slaves to them.

So somalis use arabs, turks, north africans, and other muslims.

Awesome thing to boast about. Ethiopia has almost almost nothing to do with Nigeria.
Re: Do You Consider Somalis As Black? by somalia11: 3:25am On Aug 03, 2013
sambos994:

Awesome thing to boast about. Ethiopia has almost almost nothing to do with Nigeria.

dont know if you know this, but live stock is very valuable. somalis and arabs are traditionally herders, but middle east depends on importing meat.


Ethiopia has everything to do with afrocetnrics.


look at anytime blacks talk about pride. they mention ethiopia, ancient egypt.

look at when blacks talk about beauty they talk about horners.

look at when blacks talk about the bible, the bible mentions ethiopia many times

com on son
Re: Do You Consider Somalis As Black? by sambos994(m): 4:15am On Aug 03, 2013
somalia11:

dont know if you know this, but live stock is very valuable. somalis and arabs are traditionally herders, but middle east depends on importing meat.


Ethiopia has everything to do with afrocetnrics.


look at anytime blacks talk about pride. they mention ethiopia, ancient egypt.

look at when blacks talk about beauty they talk about horners.

look at when blacks talk about the bible, the bible mentions ethiopia many times

com on son

Still doesn't tell me anything about relations between the countries.
Re: Do You Consider Somalis As Black? by somalia11: 5:17am On Aug 03, 2013
sambos994:

Still doesn't tell me anything about relations between the countries.

Huh?
Re: Do You Consider Somalis As Black? by sambos994(m): 5:24am On Aug 03, 2013
somalia11:

Huh?

You claimed that Ethiopia uses Africans as allies, and I said be that as it may Nigeria barely has relations with Ethiopia. And you said:

thiopia has everything to do with afrocetnrics.


look at anytime blacks talk about pride. they mention ethiopia, ancient egypt.

look at when blacks talk about beauty they talk about horners.

look at when blacks talk about the bible, the bible mentions ethiopia many times

com on son

And I said:

sambos994:

Still doesn't tell me anything about relations between the countries.
Re: Do You Consider Somalis As Black? by somalia11: 7:08am On Aug 03, 2013
ok. am feeling hungry its ramadan smiley


ethiopia has the capital of african union, why?

becauase they are gods to you.
Re: Do You Consider Somalis As Black? by sambos994(m): 8:09am On Aug 03, 2013
somalia11: ok. am feeling hungry its ramadan smiley


ethiopia has the capital of african union, why?

becauase they are gods to you.



I think the hunger has gotten to your head. The capital of the EU is in Belgium, are the Belgians gods to Germans, French, or British?
Re: Do You Consider Somalis As Black? by somalia11: 8:53am On Aug 03, 2013
sambos994:

I think the hunger has gotten to your head. The capital of the EU is in Belgium, are the Belgians gods to Germans, French, or British?

africa has different history, than europe. Why pick ethiopia a racist country.


their are 40 plus negroid countries, 7 arab countries, and 4 cushitic countries


yet u pick ethiopia.

also add to the fact afrocentrism revolves around ethiopia
Re: Do You Consider Somalis As Black? by Adamskuty(m): 9:49am On Aug 03, 2013
somalia11:

africa has different history, than europe. Why pick ethiopia a racist country.


their are 40 plus negroid countries, 7 arab countries, and 4 cushitic countries


yet u pick ethiopia.

also add to the fact afrocentrism revolves around ethiopia


loooool! Boy,ethiopia is no racist country,black one,u can't speak for them,i have so many ethiopian friends,lool! Just because ur zoo is in mess and they are doing far better than u doesn't mean u should drag their name in the mud,u ungrateful swine,ethiopia has gain so much been in the au compared to ur zoo where u people are been treated like dogs by ur arab masters,why didn't they help u to fight ur war?? It's simply because they look down on y'all with deep hatred,arabs will prefer a westafrican anyday to u guys,that's simply because we are moving forward,developing at a very fast rate,loool! I'm still shocked up till now no single arab company in ur zoo,but hundreds of them are begging to work and invest in WA.

So u are bragging about livestock,do u know that northern nigeria produce more livestock than ur entire zoo,almost every family members from the hausas,kanuri and fulanis got livestock and they is even commercial production (livestock prod. Is not something to be proud of).

Ur history is trash,we let in the europeans and we are enjoying from it now,compared that to ur sick people,no one wanna associate with y'all.

And to hell with slavery shit! Ur zoo was colonized,so that's slavery too,u people were forced to do things without ur will and ruled over.
Re: Do You Consider Somalis As Black? by somalia11: 9:53am On Aug 03, 2013
Mind you, though racism in Ethiopia has its roots in our ethnic differences, it should not be confused with discrimination based on ethnic affiliation or economic status. This is true because in Ethiopia ethnic slurs are different from racial slurs, and no matter what one’s economic status is, he/she might not be free from racial abuses. Some ethnic groups might be bombarded with bone piercing ethnic slurs, but not necessarily with racial slurs, whereas some other ethnic groups, especially from western and southern Ethiopia, face both ethnic and racial abuses. Even today, social contacts (for example, marriage) with Ethiopians of Nilotic origin are considered a taboo. We all know that any Ethiopian whose physical characteristics has resemblance to Nilotic or Bantu people faces daily verbal abuses and is showered with ugly and discriminatory nick names such as baria, mesheto, wefcho-lash, etc…

The other strange face of Ethiopian racism is that it is not limited to within Ethiopia or between Ethiopians. When we travel abroad, our racist attitude travels with us. Here in the United States, Ethiopians display splendid respect for white Americans, but do not accord the same respect to black Americans. Some of us even use the derisive Amharic word baria to refer to darker-skinned black Americans. In whatever foreign country we are, when we see a black person with straight nose, large eyes, and zoma hair, we tend to say “he/she looks like an Ethiopian”, knowing that the person is not an Ethiopian. On the other hand, our heart does not accept a darker skin, a flat nose or a kinky hair person as an Ethiopian. Basically, in Ethiopia or outside Ethiopia, we Ethiopians have certain physical characteristics and features that we ascribe for ourselves, and anyone outside that artificial provenance is subject for abuse or ridicule.

http://www.enset.org/2009/02/racism-in-ethiopia.html
Re: Do You Consider Somalis As Black? by Adamskuty(m): 9:57am On Aug 03, 2013
ok lemme post about racism in nigeria too,we were rank the most racist country by some stupid people,looool!

Brb! Black Rabbit ,looool! U think africans got respect from B.A too?? Who will give respect to slaves
Re: Do You Consider Somalis As Black? by somalia11: 10:02am On Aug 03, 2013
Adamskuty: ok lemme post about racism in nigeria too,we were rank the most racist country by some stupid people,looool!

Brb! Black Rabbit ,looool! U think africans got respect from B.A too?? Who will give respect to slaves



Lol, ethiopiams are racist because of how you guys look, same with Somalis. Big difference between xenophia and racism



Find me Nigerians discriminating because they don't have big nose and lips. You guys actually like people with soft hair and straight nose
Re: Do You Consider Somalis As Black? by Adamskuty(m): 10:15am On Aug 03, 2013
somalia11:



Lol, ethiopiams are racist because
fat lie! If anybody should be racist,it should be us not vice-versa,after all u won't see a nigerian in ur zoo,if we are interested in animals like u u should have seen us there,but no it's vice-versa grin
Re: Do You Consider Somalis As Black? by Adamskuty(m): 10:16am On Aug 03, 2013
lawrence99: Just wondering what place in the world you guys think has the worst racism? Where is the deep-felt patriotism/tribalism/nationalism/racism or whatever you wanna call it strongest? Where could you get attacked, kidnapped, killed just because you're not black?

I'm a white guy and having travelled in over 100 countries and 25 countries in Africa, I think it's Nigeria! Sure in French Africa, the police will want a bribe if you're english speaking and for sure if you're white. And boy will they be wicked!! But the local people there are nice and will want to be friends with you. In South Africa, they've got huge tensions for sure. But at least most people are trying to be a rainbow nation. And in provincial Western Europe and Eastern Europe, it's bad for black people. There'll be some idiots there who want trouble but most people would look away and in England most would stop it. Australia's bad definitely but a lot of people no longer believe in white Australia and even if they'd laugh, they wouldn't let anyone get hurt.

But in Nigeria, it was unbelievable!!! I've been attacked several times on my travels but only in Nigeria did I experience being attacked whilst a street full of onlookers who all laughed. In Nigeria, it's funny for a white to be attacked. If he's bleeding, it's better. Why was I in their country anyway. After all, there's only 2 million Nigerians in the 'country' where I was born. Nigerians are far too backward to get along with other tribal Nigerians so a white is just an animal to them. Every Nigerian I met wanted something out of me. If I ask for my change in a bar, they shake their heads, close their eyes and sometimes scream in anger. What a stupid white! When they see me with my Nigerian girlfriend, they shout out loud and tell her in to eat all my money. Yeah! Ha ha! If I'm friends with a Nigerian and at the end I haven't given them anything, they get angry and make threats. Sometimes, they'll see you somewhere and just look at you and shake their heads in disgust. You're white, what are you doing in my country? Sometimes, they kidnap you if you're a foreigner. When I visited my girlfriend's family home, someone outside said: what the Bleep are you doing in my country? Most Nigerians utterly hate whites. And they think there's good reason to! They're white and were born on white land. Nigeria's the most racist place in the world in my opinion. It's pure happy, smiling racism. How can Nigerians talk about racism?
Re: Do You Consider Somalis As Black? by somalia11: 10:25am On Aug 03, 2013
[quote author=Adamskuty][/quote]


Xenophobia is different from racism, of course they gonna hate whites who enslaved them


But you see many Nigerian women who bleach and run after white men by wearing weaves to look like a woman
Re: Do You Consider Somalis As Black? by Adamskuty(m): 10:40am On Aug 03, 2013
somalia11:

Bu
indeed! U see many somali women who bleach,the lord of somali "iman" actually bleached her skin to look light brown and wear weaves most of the times, What a role-model to somalis,lol! Come 2 nigeria today mr.somali and see how u are gonna be treated,people will spit on u with passion on the road.

Well! Some of them wear weaves,same with other humans on the earth,but it's rampant among blacks who got strong hairs,but note, not all blacks got strong hairs,they find it difficult or are too lazy to take care of their hairs,since our hair is so special,it need lot of care or attention,unless u will start losing hairs, instead of going through different process or take good care of their hair they prefer to just buy a weave and wear.

Actually ur women look more like men,they got no br€a$t nor ass.

And finally u will see somali women running afterwhites and bantus as well,lol! D greatest somali alive, "iman" is actually a ba..nging toy to her white master in USA.

I can't believe she's the greatest somali in the world lool! The richest bantu man " alhaji aliko dangote" who's a nigerian,and 25th richest on the world can buy the whole somali women if he so wish grin

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