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Re: Why Did GOD Regret Creating Humans by Ubenedictus(m): 11:11am On Dec 08, 2012 |
obadiah777: MY NIGGAAA <<<< TRAINING DAYweytin u dey train 4? |
Re: Why Did GOD Regret Creating Humans by Nobody: 11:24am On Dec 08, 2012 |
Ubenedictus: weytin u dey train 4?WORLD WAR 3. I GOT MY KJV IN ONE HAND AND A DOUBLE EDGED SWORD IN THE OTHER READY TO DECAPITATE HEATHENS AS INSTRUCTED BY THE LORD. TO EXECUTE JUDGEMENT AND VENGEANCE ON THE HEATHENS FOR THE CONTROVERSY WITH THE CHILDREN OF ZION ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Why Did GOD Regret Creating Humans by Nobody: 11:35am On Dec 08, 2012 |
Ubenedictus: i think ya summary of obadiah's points is very scriptural Yeah, this here, makes more sense than our arguments on Buzugee's thread. The way you & buzugee put it there wasn't clear enough! It's now that I'm beginning to get your points on that topic, however, scriptural backings to these claims would be very important! Isaiah 14:12-18 described how Satan rebelled against God and was cast out of Heaven, how could he now be working for God? |
Re: Why Did GOD Regret Creating Humans by Nobody: 11:39am On Dec 08, 2012 |
obadiah777: WORLD WAR 3. I GOT MY KJV IN ONE HAND AND A DOUBLE EDGED SWORD IN THE OTHER READY TO DECAPITATE HEATHENS AS INSTRUCTED BY THE LORD. TO EXECUTE JUDGEMENT AND VENGEANCE ON THE HEATHENS FOR THE CONTROVERSY WITH THE CHILDREN OF ZION Nice one brah ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Why Did GOD Regret Creating Humans by Ubenedictus(m): 12:05pm On Dec 08, 2012 |
obadiah777: YEAH SERIALLINK HAS BECOME A SEASONED PHARISEE. HE LIKES SCOFFING AT SCRIPTURAL EXEGESIShahaha, double edged sword abi? So far una no stain me with blood. I wear my xmax clothes so wen u ready to chop off e head tell me so i go shift. Lol BROTHER UBE. I THINK OUR SCRIPTURAL DOCTRINE IS THE SAME. DID YOU GET ALL THIS FROM THE CATHOLIC CHURCH OR IS THIS YOUR PERSONAL STUDY ?i'll say both, as a catholic am...let me say, mandated to study scriptures, but i've gat to admit that each time i have thru d help of d hspirit successfully connected the dots, i find out that i'm not inventing d wheel and simply rediscovering and appreciating, at the time i completed my studies on creation, sin and d fall some years back, a discovered over 1700yrs ago my findings were already known. And yeah the full stuff i've been talking about is also from the catholic church. Paragraph 302-314 d catechism covers d part on God's master plan. http://www.vatican.va/archive/catechism/p1s2c1p4.htm the fall is covered on http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p1s2c1p7.htm so i can truly say i got d scriptural exegesis both from my personal studies and from the catholic church. Peace 1 Like |
Re: Why Did GOD Regret Creating Humans by Ubenedictus(m): 12:07pm On Dec 08, 2012 |
obadiah777: WORLD WAR 3. I GOT MY KJV IN ONE HAND AND A DOUBLE EDGED SWORD IN THE OTHER READY TO DECAPITATE HEATHENS AS INSTRUCTED BY THE LORD. TO EXECUTE JUDGEMENT AND VENGEANCE ON THE HEATHENS FOR THE CONTROVERSY WITH THE CHILDREN OF ZIONhahahaha, lwkmd. No stain me wit blood oh! |
Re: Why Did GOD Regret Creating Humans by Nobody: 12:08pm On Dec 08, 2012 |
seriallink:SATAN IN ISAIAH CHAPTER 14 IS REFERING TO THE ANCIENT BABYLONIAN EMPIRE ( FULFILLED PROPHESY ) AND THE VIRGIN DAUGHTER OF BABYLON (USA) ( UNFULFILLED PROPHESY ). AND THE HEAVEN HE WAS CAST OUT OF IS 'RULERSHIP OF THE WORLD' <<<< CAN YOU RECIEVE THAT OR IS IT CONFUSING ? |
Re: Why Did GOD Regret Creating Humans by Nobody: 12:10pm On Dec 08, 2012 |
seriallink:YOU KNOW IT CHIEF ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Why Did GOD Regret Creating Humans by Ubenedictus(m): 12:11pm On Dec 08, 2012 |
seriallink:yeah i reviewed that thread, and i agree, i could have done better in explaining my points, there are areas i believe dont agree with obadiah, but that is more on who satan is than what he does, it seems i gat i 2nd chance at xplaining me points! Please expect an explanation. 1 Like |
Re: Why Did GOD Regret Creating Humans by Nobody: 12:15pm On Dec 08, 2012 |
Ubenedictus: hahaha, double edged sword abi? So far una no stain me with blood. I wear my xmax clothes so wen u ready to chop off e head tell me so i go shift. <<<<< TOO FUNNY |
Re: Why Did GOD Regret Creating Humans by Nobody: 12:16pm On Dec 08, 2012 |
Ubenedictus: hahahaha, lwkmd. No stain me wit blood oh! ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Why Did GOD Regret Creating Humans by Nobody: 12:23pm On Dec 08, 2012 |
@ UBE @ SERIALLINK. YOU KNOW SOMETIMES I THINK PEOPLE GET CAUGHT UP WITH WORDS. LIKE HOW AS KIDS WE HAVE BEEN TOLD SATAN IS SOME RED TWO HEADED MONSTER ETC ETC ETC. ALL GREEK FABLES ETC. SATAN SIMPLY MEANS 'ADVERSARY TO GOD'. ANYONE CAN TURN TO SATAN. PETER BECAME AN ADVERSARY ONCE AND WAS TOLD TO 'GET BEHIND ME SATAN'. IN ISAIAH CHPT 14, SATAN REFERS TO THE ANCIENT AND MODERN BABYLON EMPIRES. THOSE EMPIRES ARE AN ADVERSARY TO GOD AND THEY CORRUPT THE WORLD AND MAKE THE WORLD SATANIC. THOSE ARE THE BIGGEST SATANIC EMPIRES ON EARTH AND THEY WERE / ARE THE HEAVEN OF THIS EARTH. THEY RULE THE WORLD. AMERICA IS WHO THE WHOLE WORLD LOOKS UP TO. AMERICA IS HEAVEN. SO WHEN AMERICA GETS DESTROYED IN WW3 ' THEY WILL BE KICKED OUT OF HEAVEN' 1 Like |
Re: Why Did GOD Regret Creating Humans by Nobody: 12:35pm On Dec 08, 2012 |
obadiah777: SATAN IN ISAIAH CHAPTER 14 IS REFERING TO THE ANCIENT BABYLONIAN EMPIRE ( FULFILLED PROPHESY ) AND THE VIRGIN DAUGHTER OF BABYLON (USA) ( UNFULFILLED PROPHESY ). AND THE HEAVEN HE WAS CAST OUT OF IS 'RULERSHIP OF THE WORLD' <<<< CAN YOU RECIEVE THAT OR IS IT CONFUSING ? Ok, it sounds good! Yeah, because apart from the prophecies in Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel and Revelation, there no recorded stories about Lucifer (Who later became Satan) rebelling against God! If something had happened like that, it could have been recorded in the Book of Genesis even before the story of the creation of man, since Lucifer supposedly rebelled against God and became Satan before man was created! |
Re: Why Did GOD Regret Creating Humans by Nobody: 12:41pm On Dec 08, 2012 |
seriallink:TRUE BUT IT IS NOT A QUESTION OF SOUNDING GOOD. IF YOU READ ISAIAH CHAPTER 14 FROM THE BEGINNING, IT SPECIFICALLY TELLS YOU WHO WAS BEEN CALLED LUCIFER AND SATAN >>> ISAIAH 14 VS 4 That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say, How hath the oppressor ceased! the golden city ceased! <<< BABYLON EMPIRE 1 Like |
Re: Why Did GOD Regret Creating Humans by Nobody: 12:45pm On Dec 08, 2012 |
Obadiah777: : YEAH SERIALLINK HAS BECOME A SEASONED PHARISEE. HE LIKES SCOFFING AT SCRIPTURAL EXEGESIS . I OUGHT TO TAKE HIS HEAD OFF WITH THAT TWO EDGDED SWORD. KUDOS Ubenedictus: hahaha, double edged sword abi? So far una no stain me with blood. I wear my xmax clothes so wen u ready to chop off e head tell me so i go shift. No mind buzugee, na heathens hin go find with that double edged sword because me sef hold my own tight ![]() ![]() ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Why Did GOD Regret Creating Humans by Nobody: 12:56pm On Dec 08, 2012 |
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Re: Why Did GOD Regret Creating Humans by Ubenedictus(m): 2:01pm On Dec 08, 2012 |
seriallink:ok, i think i'm inclined to agree with ya here, i interprete is14:12 as refering to satan, but i dont regard it as an absolute interpretation, wit d construction of that passage i blive it refer to satan, but oda part of d same chapter seem to refer to an empire, i though i may assert it is satan been talked abt i've gat to conceed that in d light of d surrounding passage an empire may be a legitimate interpretation. Since that passage it disagreed upon, i will show my points using other scripture! I dont know where to start bt 1jn3:8 say ...for the devil has sinned from the beginning well Jesus also convicts satan of sin jn8:44 says he is a muderer frm d beginning and has nothing to do with d truth, wen he lies he speaks accding to his own nature for he is a liar and d fada of lie from that i gather dat satan had a sin he committed in d beginning and for dat his nature was corrupted. But not satan alone oda angel joined him 2pt2:4 say GOD didnt spare d angels wen they sinned but punished them unto darkness, for those wu dont like d idea of hell dat passage can legitimately be interpreted that God confined d fallen angels to a state of "absence of light", d absence of God atleast dat is part of my idea of hell.. If rev 12 is added to d mix, d dragon wu is identified as d devil and sweep down a third of d "stars" from heaven (mind ya star may refer to angels) rv12:9 says clearly d devil and his angel were thrown down from heaven, it seems earth is their "prison" or maybe earth is just d extension of d devils prison or rather by man's sin man gave satan a claim to d earth because man is suppose to b d master of d earth (d bolded d interpretation i use, it does have scriptural backing) bt any of d above u take is fine 4 me. If is14:12 it added it will fit, bt i know dat passage is a bone of contention so i won't use it. I also know obadiah will interprete rev 12 differently, but i dont presume to know how he interpretes jn, 1jn and 2pt. Back to business, even with all this i believe that God is perfect Goodness and fully soveriegn we can see his soveriegty in ps115:3 "our God is in d heavens, he does whatever he pleases" "opens no one shuts" rv3:7"the purpose of d lord will be established" pr19v21, he uses one nation's evil to correct another nation is10v5-15, he use assyria to punish israel and vice vasa, is 45 tells da story is 51 completes it! God also uses man to achieve what he wants phi2:13. I believe God allows evil so as to achieve a greater good. Gen45:8 shows a way "satan" in joshep brothers unknowingly helped joseph achieve what God planed 4 him. Gen 50:20 shows a clearer picture, a believe in similar fashion satan wu meant evil against me is used to achieve a greater good! Tobit2:12 say d same bt i won't quote it since u dont accept it. The jews rejected d gospel and thru dat means it was given to d gentiles. As sinned increase by satan's hate God had a cause to grant more grace rm 5:20. And because God is soveriengn all things work together for good for they that love him Rm8v28. I hv tried to show how i understand d 'devil'. How God uses evil even sin to achieve a greater good, and uses physical evil like calamities to correct a erring nation. Im sorry if d above is too long, i tried my best to summerise 1 Like |
Re: Why Did GOD Regret Creating Humans by Ubenedictus(m): 2:08pm On Dec 08, 2012 |
obadiah777: @ UBE @ SERIALLINK. YOU KNOW SOMETIMES I THINK PEOPLE GET CAUGHT UP WITH WORDS. LIKE HOW AS KIDS WE HAVE BEEN TOLD SATAN IS SOME RED TWO HEADED MONSTER ETC ETC ETC. ALL GREEK FABLES ETC. SATAN SIMPLY MEANS 'ADVERSARY TO GOD'. ANYONE CAN TURN TO SATAN. PETER BECAME AN ADVERSARY ONCE AND WAS TOLD TO 'GET BEHIND ME SATAN'. IN ISAIAH CHPT 14, SATAN REFERS TO THE ANCIENT AND MODERN BABYLON EMPIRES. THOSE EMPIRES ARE AN ADVERSARY TO GOD AND THEY CORRUPT THE WORLD AND MAKE THE WORLD SATANIC. THOSE ARE THE BIGGEST SATANIC EMPIRES ON EARTH AND THEY WERE / ARE THE HEAVEN OF THIS EARTH. THEY RULE THE WORLD. AMERICA IS WHO THE WHOLE WORLD LOOKS UP TO. AMERICA IS HEAVEN. SO WHEN AMERICA GETS DESTROYED IN WW3 ' THEY WILL BE KICKED OUT OF HEAVEN'again i get this point, adversary is simply one wu oppose God and seriallink, obadiah or ubenedictus may b discribed as such IF they oppose God. But again i cant deny that there is a specific adversary spoken of in d bible, d one all oda "adversary" imitate, if lies is opposed to God, d liar is an adversary, but he is only imitating a principal adversary d one called "d fada of lies" 1 Like |
Re: Why Did GOD Regret Creating Humans by Ubenedictus(m): 2:09pm On Dec 08, 2012 |
obadiah777: TRUE BUT IT IS NOT A QUESTION OF SOUNDING GOOD. IF YOU READ ISAIAH CHAPTER 14 FROM THE BEGINNING, IT SPECIFICALLY TELLS YOU WHO WAS BEEN CALLED LUCIFER AND SATAN >>>hm...I brushed dis point some mins ago |
Re: Why Did GOD Regret Creating Humans by Kay17: 3:46pm On Dec 08, 2012 |
obadiah777: NO GOD DOES NOT WORK ON RESULTS. HE KNOWS THE END FROM THE BEGINNING Then why test man, if he knows the results already?! |
Re: Why Did GOD Regret Creating Humans by Nobody: 4:02pm On Dec 08, 2012 |
Kay 17:YOU STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE TEST |
Re: Why Did GOD Regret Creating Humans by Nobody: 4:06pm On Dec 08, 2012 |
Ubenedictus: again i get this point, adversary is simply one wu oppose God and seriallink, obadiah or ubenedictus may b discribed as such IF they oppose God. But again i cant deny that there is a specific adversary spoken of in d bible, d one all oda "adversary" imitate, if lies is opposed to God, d liar is an adversary, but he is only imitating a principal adversary d one called "d fada of lies"THE SPECIFIC ADVERSARY SPOKEN OFF IN THE BIBLE IS EMPIRES BEING ADVERSARIES TO THE WORD. ANCIENT BABYLONIAN, MEDIOPERSIAN, GREEK, ROMAN, AMERICAN <<<< SATANS / LUCIFER. ITS NOT A SPECIFIC PERSON. THE BIBLE HAS NEVER REFERED TO A SPECIFIC PERSON AS SATAN. QUOTE ME A VERSE WHERE THE BIBLE NAMES ONE MAN AS SATAN |
Re: Why Did GOD Regret Creating Humans by wiegraf: 5:09pm On Dec 08, 2012 |
Kay 17: Supposing I had a rabid dog, and knew full well that it was going to infect some people ahead of time, if I let the dog free in the market society would rightly persecute me. If I were hiv positive and knowingly went about spreading the virus, society would persecute me. If I made a gundam and set it to 'destroy the world', same results. God makes hitler, stalin, wars upon wars, natural disaster after disaster, disease, famine, misery and suffering wantonly yet it is still regarded as good. What sort of omniscient omnipotent feels regret anyways? How stoopid would it have to be to be unable to avoid that? Or perhaps it's masochistic? /rant |
Re: Why Did GOD Regret Creating Humans by Kay17: 5:55pm On Dec 08, 2012 |
obadiah777: YOU STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE TEST Why? |
Re: Why Did GOD Regret Creating Humans by charles009(m): 6:13pm On Dec 08, 2012 |
inurmind: Yeah it is funny when u think about it. Biggest mistake of all time...can this be justified...biggest fairytale story of all time....tell me something else jare... |
Re: Why Did GOD Regret Creating Humans by Ubenedictus(m): 6:19pm On Dec 08, 2012 |
obadiah777: THE SPECIFIC ADVERSARY SPOKEN OFF IN THE BIBLE IS EMPIRES BEING ADVERSARIES TO THE WORD. ANCIENT BABYLONIAN, MEDIOPERSIAN, GREEK, ROMAN, AMERICAN <<<< SATANS / LUCIFER. ITS NOT A SPECIFIC PERSON. THE BIBLE HAS NEVER REFERED TO A SPECIFIC PERSON AS SATAN. QUOTE ME A VERSE WHERE THE BIBLE NAMES ONE MAN AS SATANdo ya wish to tell me how jn8:44 fits d above! 1 Like |
Re: Why Did GOD Regret Creating Humans by Nobody: 6:22pm On Dec 08, 2012 |
Ubenedictus: do ya wish to tell me how jn8:44 fits d above!JOHN 8 VS 44 IS REFERING TO CAIN WHO KILLED HIS BROTHER ABEL AND THEN LIED TO GOD |
Re: Why Did GOD Regret Creating Humans by wiegraf: 6:58pm On Dec 08, 2012 |
Oops, I posted without even reading the thread, I was just 'following' @kay's posts, lol. My bad. It's the mature xtians in here. Let me go find people I can actually provoke.. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Why Did GOD Regret Creating Humans by Nobody: 7:06pm On Dec 08, 2012 |
wiegraf: Oops, I posted without even reading the thread, I was just 'following' @kay's posts, lol. My bad. It's the mature xtians in here. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Why Did GOD Regret Creating Humans by Nobody: 7:07pm On Dec 08, 2012 |
Kay 17:JUST BECAUSE ![]() |
Re: Why Did GOD Regret Creating Humans by Boomark(m): 3:48am On Dec 09, 2012 |
Ubenedictus: again i get this point, adversary is simply one wu oppose God and seriallink, obadiah or ubenedictus may b discribed as such IF they oppose God. But again i cant deny that there is a specific adversary spoken of in d bible, d one all oda "adversary" imitate, if lies is opposed to God, d liar is an adversary, but he is only imitating a principal adversary d one called "d fada of lies" Welldone! This is how satan entered Judas and used him to betray Jesus. Not a permanent creature in every body. Jn 13:27 King James 2000 Bible (©2003) And after the morsel Satan entered into him. Then said Jesus unto him, What you do, do quickly. |
Re: Why Did GOD Regret Creating Humans by Ubenedictus(m): 6:40am On Dec 09, 2012 |
Boomark:amen! |
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