DrummaBoy:

The award for biggest insult will go to your comrade in Judaism and not me; I do not go beyond scriptures to 'describe' your type.

And as for Bidam and Alwaystrue, whom you claim 'sanctioned' me yesterday; it simple: I didn't reply the former bc I have told him in another thread I am done with him on this forum. As for the latter: one could tell that emotions were already rising and to reply her will lead to such exchanges that will not edify. Of all of U, she alone says what is closest to sense but even at that she has a great deal to learn.

I cannot be sanctioned my friend here; I am free as a bird. Except I sanction myself: which I will do now. Like Demi before now, this post marks my last post on this thread.

Enjoy your judaistic Christianity.

Let the loftiness and haughtiness of man's heart be subdued and let the Lord alone be exalted.Hallelujah!!!

cescky: am not sure i reaaly grasped the whole of what you said but, the sumation of the laws of moses is what Jesus came to preach 1)LOVE (GOD WITH YOUR ALL YOUR MIGHT, MIND ETC AND THY NEIGBOUR AS THY SELF, BEACUSE IN LOVING THY NEIGBOUR, UR LOVING GOD, BECAUSE HE IS AN IMAGE AND DWELLING PLACE OF THE ALMIGHTY also a close obeservation of the laws of moses is simply laws that teach on displaying love in different ways
2)THE LAW OF FAITH

in other words the LAW OF LOVE AND THE LAW OF FAITH IS WHAT IS REQUIRED FOR OBEDIENCE(LIFE SPIRITUALLY) UNDER GRACE.

If u want salvation u have to keep the laws and commandments that's what Jesus said in matt:5:17-19
Jesus is the master we have to follow him no matter how many people said the laW is nailed to the cross Jesus is the master we have to follow him.

JMAN05: <The tithe was for the Israelites in the
land of Israel to pay the levites, as
they did not inherit a share of the
land, so that would not have made
sense.>

being circumcised is for whom?

<Keeping the commandments is
mentiones many times throughout the
new testament. Do a new testament
keyword search for 'commandments'
and you will see what I mean.
I explained why the council focussed
on three things (all three came from
Torah) for the gentiles to observe
immediatey.>

1. and I am saying, why wouldn't they write them the ten commandment in that council, was it voluminous?

2. Paul, Peter, James etc wrote letters to different congregations. if the law was in force, would it's content not have been the main emphases of their letters? rather we see argument against it. please respond to that Col. 2;13-17.

>>that is what I am saying, tell
They said they would
learn the rest as they learn the law,
which is preached every sabbath. Not
much more to say on that I'm afraid
sir>>

I never saw "they would learn the rest" as the law is read in the synagogue, please show me.

2. where they even commanded to continue worshipping in the synagogue?

Why would you need to command someone to worship in a synagogue when the religion remains Judaism. Christ is the fulfilment of prophecy in the Torah. Nothing there about a new religion.
THere are countless examples of the believers attending synagogue so I won't waste my time fishing those out.

Why would they write the ten commandments again, when it is taught in the synagogue. Even the Jews did not have those scrolls, the teachers did.

""Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God: But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood. For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day. Then pleased it the apostles and elders, with the whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas; namely, Judas surnamed Barsabas, and Silas, chief men among the brethren."

This passage seems to show there are only four rules given to Gentiles coming into the faith. While the Torah wasn't forced on Gentiles all at once, it was understood they would learn it gradually over time, hearing it each week in the synagogues. For that matter, Torah wasn't forced on Israel in a day either -- they too received it over time.

Shalom

[quote author=JesusisLord85]

<<Why would you need to command someone to worship in a synagogue when the religion remains Judaism. Christ is the fulfilment of prophecy in the Torah.>>

1. how will u prove that the religion remained judaism when the apostles condemned their insistent on the law. did judaisers then preach Jesus or moses?

2. he fulfils the law and he is the end of the law. not so?

" For Christ is the end of the Law,
so that everyone exercising faith may
have righteousness. " rom. 10:4

<< Nothing there about a new religion.
THere are countless examples of the believers attending synagogue so I won't waste my time fishing those out.>

1. attending synagogue to do what? was it the new gentile converts or Paul and companions who went to preach to those there abt Jesus since they wont accept him? it may be better to quote them lets look at it.

2. does priests come to the house of Prisla to read Moses living their synagogue?

1 Corinthians 16:19

"The congregations of Asia send YOU their greetings.
Aq′ui·la and Pris′ca together with the congregation that
is in their house greet YOU heartily in [the] Lord."

<<Why would they write the ten commandments again, when it is taught in the synagogue. Even the Jews did not have those scrolls, the teachers did.>>

1. Did the priests in the synagogue separate and started teaching about Moses in a school?

Acts 19:8-10

"8 Entering into the synagogue, he
spoke with boldness for three months,
giving talks and using persuasion
concerning the kingdom of God. 9 But
when some went on hardening
themselves and not believing, speaking
injuriously about The Way before the
multitude, he withdrew from them and
separated the disciples from them, daily
giving talks in the school [auditorium] of
Ty·ran′nus. 10 This took place for two
years, so that all those inhabiting the
[district of] Asia heard the word of the
Lord, both Jews and Greeks. "

<<""Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God: But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood. For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day. Then pleased it the apostles and elders, with the whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas; namely, Judas surnamed Barsabas, and Silas, chief men among the brethren."

This passage seems to show there are only four rules given to Gentiles coming into the faith. While the Torah wasn't forced on Gentiles all at once, it was understood they would learn it gradually over time, hearing it each week in the synagogues. For that matter, Torah wasn't forced on Israel in a day either -- they too received it over time.>>

I dont think so. if james had in mind to say that they will learn more when they continually worship in the synagogue, dont you think that those who attend will be taught the sabbath, tithing and circumcision, for these will not be erased by the teachers of the law? and this issue of circumcision will arise again there, thereby contradicting the statement of james. will james not be viewed as fighting against the law which was clear on that subject? will the gentiles not be confused of which to obey?

have u read 1cor. 12-14 before? is it how synagogue worship is conducted?

this comments of mine were never attended to:

you said that tithing is for the levites. i agree, but is circumcision for whom? why will they drop it?

you ve never attended to Paul's words at Col. 2:13-17.

Colossians 2:13-17

13 Furthermore, though YOU were
dead in YOUR trespasses and in the
uncircumcised state of YOUR flesh,
[God] made YOU alive together with
him. He kindly forgave us all our
trespasses 14 and blotted out the
handwritten document against us,
which consisted of decrees and which
was in opposition to us; and He has
taken it out of the way by nailing it to
the torture stake. 15 Stripping the
governments and the authorities bare,
he exhibited them in open public as
conquered, leading them in a triumphal
procession by means of it.
16 Therefore let no man judge YOU
in eating and drinking or in respect of a
festival or of an observance of the new
moon or of a sabbath; 17 for those
things are a shadow+ of the things to
come, but the reality belongs to the
Christ."

christemmbassey: what is the meaning of this? 1. Tro the name of our lord Jesus Christ, we shall be saved, 2. Preach Moses every sabbath, Goshen was correct, ynu dont understand what you post, i knew it, the minister of death is working in you just like ur bros, pls tell me u are not most high using another id!

And there we have it again.

The message went straight over the head

Instead he is asking silliy queshuns "tell me true are you mosthigh are you obadiah777"

They cant bear to see more than 1 lone witness

Where 2 or 3 are gatherd I am there

DrummaBoy:

Exactly!!!

After viewing comments following my post, to say any more will be akin to throwing pearls to dogs.

LWKM

Wetin concern gentile with pearls and dogs?

Was it not the gentile that said even the DOGS eat thr crumbs from the jewish mans table

The gentiles my friend are the dogs

Opposite of gentile is JEW, you are decieving yourself

[

JesusisLord85:

For those who did not have the benefit of reading Paul's letter, what do you think they read every sabbath?
The Torah is God's word, his instructions. The same thing talked about in John 1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.".

This word was made flesh.
verse 14 "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth."

The word of God is suficient. Paul attempted to explain these things to the gentiles. But in 2000 years, and via gentile lenses, his messae has been lost.

As far as the goshen and his desciples are concerned all those people were just pretending to observe the law "untill the fullness of pauls message was recived"

Anathema.

Paul has no message BUT THE MESSAGE OF YASHUA to BRING the GENTILES into the fold of ISREAL

Please note that all end time prophecy speaks of ISREAL and not a CHURCH

You cannot through wishfull thinking Convert ISREAL TO A CHURCH

Woe unto those that say they are jews but they are not


Woe Woe Woe.

Tgirl4real:


Ok. I guess this answers the question I just asked.

But, it is clear from the New testament itself that homosexuality and sexual sin in general are to be condemned.

If it was that clear then when the umwise dey ask the master the same questionS ABOUT MORALITY AND SIN he should have just spoken from the heart.

But No!

He used the word of God, even when he was tempted he still [b]quoted verses from the torah [/b]to drive the devil away

But no Goshen and his desciples are [b]wiser than thier professed master [/b]hence thier new found God that they worship

If temptation comes your way as it did the master in the exact same way or circumstances,WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO RESPOND WITH THE SAME VERSES WITH CONVICTION?

I think not, you all profess with your mouths that God is dead and there is a new God in town

LWKP

Tgirl4real:

Hold on sir, have I ever said anywhere that we should not work in God's way?

Well, for me, that is not the bone of contention.

I will check out your thread.

TTYl.

You and your friends cannot define Gods way

Gods way is already written in stone

Who wan come change am?

The little horn of daniel 7 the same person as the lawless man of 2 thess 2 is the one PROPHESISED TO DO THIS.

He will try so hard to pollute and change Gods LAW

But the lawless are not CONCERNED with prophecy.

The master has tarried too long, he shall not return

But I tell you even if he tarry he will surely come

JesusisLord85:

The tithe was for the Israelites in the land of Israel to pay the levites, as they did not inherit a share of the land, so that would not have made sense.
Keeping the commandments is mentiones many times throughout the new testament. Do a new testament keyword search for 'commandments' and you will see what I mean.
I explained why the council focussed on three things (all three came from Torah) for the gentiles to observe immediatey. They said they would learn the rest as they learn the law, which is preached every sabbath. Not much more to say on that I'm afraid sir

My brother you are talking of keyword search, these men are too dark.

They tremble at the thought of what such an assingment may reveal.

For men so loved the darkness.

DrummaBoy:

The award for biggest insult will go to your comrade in Judaism and not me; I do not go beyond scriptures to 'describe' your type.

And as for Bidam and Alwaystrue, whom you claim 'sanctioned' me yesterday; it simple: I didn't reply the former bc I have told him in another thread I am done with him on this forum. As for the latter: one could tell that emotions were already rising and to reply her will lead to such exchanges that will not edify. Of all of U, she alone says what is closest to sense but even at that she has a great deal to learn.

I cannot be sanctioned my friend here; I am free as a bird. Except I sanction myself: which I will do now. Like Demi before now, this post marks my last post on this thread.

Enjoy your judaistic Christianity.

Ignorance is no excuse

You have been warned.

mahdino:

If u want salvation u have to keep the laws and commandments that's what Jesus said in matt:5:17-19
Jesus is the master we have to follow him no matter how many people said the laW is nailed to the cross Jesus is the master we have to follow him.

From that same verse the master says we should put them under our feet.

Those who openly speak against the LAW tthat is.

But that message goes over thier heads like the gulfstream

For men so loved the darkness.

MostHigh:

LWKM

Wetin concern gentile with pearls and dogs?

Was it not the gentile that said even the DOGS eat thr crumbs from the jewish mans table

The gentiles my friend are the dogs

Opposite of gentile is JEW, you are decieving yourself

LWKMD! Even shdemidemi calls himself a dog,i guess they will disagree on this one.

Bidam: LWKMD! Even shdemidemi calls himself a dog,i guess they will disagree on this one.

They surely will

They lack conviction.

Jesusislord85.

<<For
Moses of old time hath in every city
them that preach him, being read
in the synagogues every sabbath
day.>>

I want to add more to my responds above.

remember that that statement is made by James in the council MEETING not among the words forwarded to the gentiles.

the letter to the gentiles never had those words of Moses being read in the synagogue.

Acts 15:23-30

23 and by their hand they wrote:
“The apostles and the older men,
brothers, to those brothers in Antioch
and Syria and Ci·li′cia who are from the
nations: Greetings! 24 Since we have
heard that some from among us have
caused YOU trouble with speeches,
trying to subvert YOUR souls, although we
did not give them any instructions,
25 we have come to a unanimous
accord and have favored choosing
men to send to YOU together with our
loved ones, Bar′na·bas and Paul,
26 men that have delivered up their
souls for the name of our Lord Jesus
Christ. 27 We are therefore dispatching
Judas and Silas, that they also may
report the same things by word. 28 For
the holy spirit and we ourselves have
favored adding no further burden to
YOU, except these necessary things, 29 to
keep abstaining from things sacrificed to
idols and from blood and from things
strangled and from fornication. If
YOU carefully keep yourselves from these
things, YOU will prosper. Good health
to YOU!”
30 Accordingly, when these men were
let go, they went down to Antioch, and
they gathered the multitude together and
handed them the letter. "

Will it still be reasonable for us to say that the later words of James was among the instructions handed to the gentiles?

James was there stating what usually occurs in the synagogue, his words means that the mosaic law received wide publicity among the jews. no doubt some people still insist that his laws should be practiced by the gentiles too as the law usually read in the synagogue is plain on the issue of circumcision. but from there meeting, there was no need to burden the gentiles on that issue based on the fact that God has giving them a surety for salvation, ie the outpouring of the holy spirit, even though they are not circumcised and they dont live by the mosaic law.

since God gave those who are not circumcised and who do not live by the law salvation, it then means that salvation is no longer based on practicing the mosaic law but by faith.

I think Peter made similar point.

Acts 15:8-11

8 and God, who knows the heart,
bore witness by giving them the holy
spirit, just as he did to us also. 9 And he
made no distinction at all between us and
them, + but purified their hearts by faith.
10 Now, therefore, why are YOU
making a test of God by imposing upon
the neck of the disciples a yoke that
neither our forefathers nor we were
capable of bearing? 11 On the contrary,
we trust to get saved through the
undeserved kindness of the Lord Jesus
in the same way as those people also.” [b] Jesusislord85.

<<For
Moses of old time hath in every city
them that preach him, being read
in the synagogues every sabbath
day.>>

I want to add more to my responds above.

remember that that statement is made by James in the council MEETING not among the words forwarded to the gentiles.

the letter to the gentiles never had those words of Moses being read in the synagogue.

Acts 15:23-30

23 and by their hand they wrote:
“The apostles and the older men,
brothers, to those brothers in Antioch
and Syria and Ci·li′cia who are from the
nations: Greetings! 24 Since we have
heard that some from among us have
caused YOU trouble with speeches,
trying to subvert YOUR souls, although we
did not give them any instructions,
25 we have come to a unanimous
accord and have favored choosing
men to send to YOU together with our
loved ones, Bar′na·bas and Paul,
26 men that have delivered up their
souls for the name of our Lord Jesus
Christ. 27 We are therefore dispatching
Judas and Silas, that they also may
report the same things by word. 28 For
the holy spirit and we ourselves have
favored adding no further burden to
YOU, except these necessary things, 29 to
keep abstaining from things sacrificed to
idols and from blood and from things
strangled and from fornication. If
YOU carefully keep yourselves from these
things, YOU will prosper. Good health
to YOU!”
30 Accordingly, when these men were
let go, they went down to Antioch, and
they gathered the multitude together and
handed them the letter. "

Will it still be reasonable for us to say that the later words of James was among the instructions handed to the gentiles?

James was there stating what usually occurs in the synagogue, his words means that the mosaic law received wide publicity among the jews. no doubt some people still insist that his laws should be practiced by the gentiles too as the law usually read in the synagogue is plain on the issue of circumcision. but from there meeting, there was no need to burden the gentiles on that issue based on the fact that God has giving them a surety for salvation, ie the outpouring of the holy spirit, even though they are not circumcised and they dont live by the mosaic law.

since God gave those who are not circumcised and who do not live by the law salvation, it then means that salvation is no longer based on practicing the mosaic law but by faith.

I think Peter made similar point.

Acts 15:8-11

8 and God, who knows the heart,
bore witness by giving them the holy
spirit, just as he did to us also. 9 And he
made no distinction at all between us and
them, + but purified their hearts by faith.
10 Now, therefore, why are YOU
making a test of God by imposing upon
the neck of the disciples a yoke that
neither our forefathers nor we were
capable of bearing? 11 On the contrary,
we trust to get saved through the
undeserved kindness of the Lord Jesus
in the same way as those people also.” [/b] Jesusislord85.

<<For
Moses of old time hath in every city
them that preach him, being read
in the synagogues every sabbath
day.>>

I want to add more to my responds above.

remember that that statement is made by James in the council MEETING not among the words forwarded to the gentiles.

the letter to the gentiles never had those words of Moses being read in the synagogue.

Acts 15:23-30

23 and by their hand they wrote:
“The apostles and the older men,
brothers, to those brothers in Antioch
and Syria and Ci·li′cia who are from the
nations: Greetings! 24 Since we have
heard that some from among us have
caused YOU trouble with speeches,
trying to subvert YOUR souls, although we
did not give them any instructions,
25 we have come to a unanimous
accord and have favored choosing
men to send to YOU together with our
loved ones, Bar′na·bas and Paul,
26 men that have delivered up their
souls for the name of our Lord Jesus
Christ. 27 We are therefore dispatching
Judas and Silas, that they also may
report the same things by word. 28 For
the holy spirit and we ourselves have
favored adding no further burden to
YOU, except these necessary things, 29 to
keep abstaining from things sacrificed to
idols and from blood and from things
strangled and from fornication. If
YOU carefully keep yourselves from these
things, YOU will prosper. Good health
to YOU!”
30 Accordingly, when these men were
let go, they went down to Antioch, and
they gathered the multitude together and
handed them the letter. "

Will it still be reasonable for us to say that the later words of James was among the instructions handed to the gentiles?

James was there stating what usually occurs in the synagogue, his words means that the mosaic law received wide publicity among the jews. no doubt some people still insist that his laws should be practiced by the gentiles too as the law usually read in the synagogue is plain on the issue of circumcision. but from there meeting, there was no need to burden the gentiles on that issue based on the fact that God has giving them a surety for salvation, ie the outpouring of the holy spirit, even though they are not circumcised and they dont live by the mosaic law.

since God gave those who are not circumcised and who do not live by the law salvation, it then means that salvation is no longer based on practicing the mosaic law but by faith.

I think Peter made similar point.

Acts 15:8-11

8 and God, who knows the heart,
bore witness by giving them the holy
spirit, just as he did to us also. 9 And he
made NO DISTINCTION at all between us and
them, + but purified their hearts by FAITH.
10 Now, therefore, why are YOU
making a test of God by imposing upon
the neck of the disciples a yoke that
neither our forefathers nor we were
capable of bearing? 11 On the contrary,
we trust to get saved through the
undeserved kindness of the Lord Jesus
in the same way as those people also.”

Pls carefully select my comments above. they reoccurred. am still learning how to use the font tools here.

JMAN05: Pls carefully select my comments above. they reoccurred. am still learning how to use the font tools here.

The theme of the post is not SALVATION but OBEDIENCE.

Obedience is the key.

We all know we are saved by our faith in Yashua, but that does not warrant lawlessness.

Be obedient as your proffessed master and all the postles with him are obedient Math 5:17

The OP has shown all of you where the apostles all agrred to be obedient

But you keep on letting it go OVER YOUR HEADS

I wonder why.

MostHigh:

The theme of the post is not SALVATION but OBEDIENCE.

Obedience is the key.

We all know we are saved by our faith in Yashua, but that does not warrant lawlessness.

Be obedient as your proffessed master and all the postles with him are obedient Math 5:17

The OP has shown all of you where the apostles all agrred to be obedient

But you keep on letting it go OVER YOUR HEADS

I wonder why.

Yeah,lemme add this scriptures for the scoffers.Acts 5:29

Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men

Bidam: Yeah,lemme add this scriptures for the scoffers.Acts 5:29

Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men

Spot on.

MostHigh:

The theme of the post is not SALVATION but OBEDIENCE.

Obedience is the key.

We all know we are saved by our faith in Yashua, but that does not warrant lawlessness.

Be obedient as your proffessed master and all the postles with him are obedient Math 5:17

The OP has shown all of you where the apostles all agrred to be obedient

But you keep on letting it go OVER YOUR HEADS

I wonder why.

Jesus was NOT obedient to the LAW of Moses, he actually preached and acted against it. He healed three times on the sabbath, entered farm on sabbaht, he prevented the killing of a lady caught in adultery, he preached against an eye for an eye, divorse and lived against the instituted levitical priesthood, he was not a levite but he performed the BIGEST, MOST APPROPRIATE AND MOST ACCEPTABLE sacrifice. Why dont you reject his sacrifice bc according to ur moses law, the priesthood was given ONLY TO THE LEVITES FOREVER?

christemmbassey: Jesus was NOT obedient to the LAW of Moses, he actually preached and acted against it. He healed three times on the sabbath, entered farm on sabbaht, he prevented the killing of a lady caught in adultery, he preached against an eye for an eye, divorse and lived against the instituted levitical priesthood, he was not a levite but he performed the BIGEST, MOST APPROPRIATE AND MOST ACCEPTABLE sacrifice. Why dont you reject his sacrifice bc according to ur moses law, the priesthood was given ONLY TO THE LEVITES FOREVER?

Abeg no use laugh take finish person

Even the most liberal progressives would find it difficult to swallow such falsehood

The bolded is [b]one of the wackiest [/b]I have ever heard from your group and my response is:

John 8:46Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don't you believe me?

1. So because yashua shhowed mecy and healed on the sabbath he is in opposition of the law?


2. So because yashua spoke against the traditions of men "AND NOT THE LAW ITSELF AS YOU DECIETFULLY CLAIM" he is in opposition of the LAW?

3. Why is your heart black because yashua does good works? he tenderd justice with mercy in the case of the adulterer would you rather he had condemmed her to death? and how does that translate to opposition of the law?

It must have taken you a lot of courage to type such falsehood.

But you have already recieved your reward.

By the words of your mouth you atre judged

@ Jesusislord and Mosthigh of NL, I think I am beginning to understand what you saying in Acts 15: 21. When they meet to fellowship, what they read is the Holy scriptures - Torah.

I believe it's in line with Paul's instructions to Timothy in his letters. In 2Tim 3: 16, they didn't have the bible as we have it now, so the scriptures he is referring to is the torah.

Also, he asked them to read scriptures in 1Tim 4:13-16, def old testament cos they didn't have the epistles as we have it now. It's these letters, reports that are combined together as the new testament.

hmm....I seriously blame those who pass things down to us.

I have questions though, but I will keep them to myself for now.

MostHigh:

Abeg no use laugh take finish person

Even the most liberal progressives would find it difficult to swallow such falsehood

The bolded is [b]one of the wackiest [/b]I have ever heard from your group and my response is:

John 8:46Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don't you believe me?

1. So because yashua shhowed mecy and healed on the sabbath he is in opposition of the law?


2. So because yashua spoke against the traditions of men "AND NOT THE LAW ITSELF AS YOU DECIETFULLY CLAIM" he is in opposition of the LAW?

3. Why is your heart black because yashua does good works? he tenderd justice with mercy in the case of the adulterer would you rather he had condemmed her to death? and how does that translate to opposition of the law?

It must have taken you a lot of courage to type such falsehood.

But you have already recieved your reward.

By the words of your mouth you atre judged

the truth must bf told however hard, Check out the reaction of the jews each time Jesus healed on the sabbath, what about harvesting on a sabbath? And or his priesthood, was Jesus from the tribe of Levi? Ynu dont know ur Mosaic law, odawise u'd realise that there was nothing like "temper justice with mercy", guy it was called 'LAW OF SIN AND DEATH', if you sin, you must die , no mercy. Try again

christemmbassey: the truth must bf told however hard, Check out the reaction of the jews each time Jesus healed on the sabbath, what about harvesting on a sabbath? And or his priesthood, was Jesus from the tribe of Levi? Ynu dont know ur Mosaic law, odawise u'd realise that there was nothing like "temper justice with mercy", guy it was called 'LAW OF SIN AND DEATH', if you sin, you must die , no mercy. Try again

Ignorance is no bliss I tell you

Mat 23:1 ¶ Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,


Mat 23:2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:


Mat 23:3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, [that] observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

Is the bolded instruction from the master not directed to you as well??


The children of the litle horn are burning in Fire

MostHigh:

Ignorance is no bliss I tell you

Mat 23:1 ¶ Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,


Mat 23:2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:


Mat 23:3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, [that] observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

Is the bolded instruction from the master not directed to you as well??


The children of the litle horn are burning in Fire

i tot u av anything more than ur normal iocoberent bablings, chew on what ive said, did the law permit anyone outside levi's to be a priest?

christemmbassey: i tot u av anything morf than ur normal iocoberent bablings, chew on what ive said, did thf law permit anyone outside levi's to be a priest?

Which kind reasoning be this sef

These wannabe goshens are so annoying

ok I will answer your kweshun

yes the law does permit people outside the tribe of levi to be priests

These priests are called nazerites and the are of the order of melchizedek

The levitical priests are of the order of arron

numbers chapter 6 reveals the ordinances for the nazerite priesthood

Numbers chapter 18 reveals the ordinances of the levitical priesthood

Please ensure this does not go over the top of your head, try and meditate, research and study it before you respond.

Just so you are not arguing blindly as usual

MostHigh:

These priests are called nazerites and the are of the order of melchizedek



numbers chapter 6 reveals the ordinances for the nazerite priesthood

this a new one,never heard of it.Can you explain further?

Bidam: this a new one,never heard of it.Can you explain further?

Samuel was a nazerite priest and Eli was a levite priest.

These 2 priesthoods both have different ordinances

The ordinances are detailed in the verses I quoted numbers 6 and numbers 18

1.Yashua and all his desciples are nazerite acts 21

2.joseph is a nazerite gen 49:26

3.John the baptist is a nazerite luke 1:15

4.Daniel meshach and abednego also nazarites Dan 1:8

6.Moses and Aaron instituted the nazerite order num 21:8

The nazarite is the king prophet priest.

<<The theme of the post is not
SALVATION but OBEDIENCE.
Obedience is the key.>>

Pls how is the theme of this thread obedience? are u sure u are on the thread of ur choice? cos I only saw "must christians obey the law of moses?". how is that theme abt obedience?

<<We all know we are saved by our faith
in Yashua, but that does not warrant
lawlessness.>>

I dont believe in lawlessness either. did u really see my comments?

<<The OP has shown all of you where the
apostles all agrred to be obedient
But you keep on letting it go OVER
YOUR HEADS>>

the OP is not talking about obedience, but the initiator of the thread is trying to prove that the jerusalem council never condemned the mosaic law rather the upheld it somehow. a position which I am trying to reason out with the initiator of the thread.

<<I wonder why.>>

I still wonder whether u are on the same thread with me.

JMAN05: <<The theme of the post is not
SALVATION but OBEDIENCE.
Obedience is the key.>>

Pls how is the theme of this thread obedience? are u sure u are on the thread of ur choice? cos I only saw "must christians obey the law of moses?". how is that theme abt obedience?

<<We all know we are saved by our faith
in Yashua, but that does not warrant
lawlessness.>>

I dont believe in lawlessness either. did u really see my comments?

<<The OP has shown all of you where the
apostles all agrred to be obedient
But you keep on letting it go OVER
YOUR HEADS>>

the OP is not talking about obedience, but the initiator of the thread is trying to prove that the jerusalem council never condemned the mosaic law rather the upheld it somehow. a position which I am trying to reason out with the initiator of the thread.

<<I wonder why.>>

I still wonder whether u are on the same thread with me.

Mr man, no vex, I have been away with work. I will respond your list of questions this evening.

Cheers