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Re: Exigesis Of Genesis Chapter 1 by Tgirl4real(f): 9:28pm On Sep 03, 2013
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how did I miss this?

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Re: Exigesis Of Genesis Chapter 1 by Nobody: 9:31pm On Sep 03, 2013
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Tgirl4real:

how did I miss this?

I really really dont know grin grin grin
Re: Exigesis Of Genesis Chapter 1 by Tgirl4real(f): 9:51pm On Sep 03, 2013
Hey guys,

I seriously need help wrapping my head around some things....

Let me see if I can make sense with what I already have...


- God created Adam in his image n likeness
- Thus Adam is the son of God - God's people - Isreal
- Sons of God are angels
- angels are humans
- When Adam fell, he became a fallen angel
- Fallen angels are demons
- Not all of the angels fell
- angels can come and go just like you and I

Obadiah or Mosrhigh pls help me out here.

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Re: Exigesis Of Genesis Chapter 1 by Nobody: 9:55pm On Sep 03, 2013
Tgirl4real: Hey guys,

I seriously need help wrapping my head around some things....

Let me see if I can make sense with I already have...


- God created Adam in his image n likeness
- Thus Adam is the son of God - God's people - Isreal
- Sons of God are angels
- angels are humans
- When Adam fell, he became a fallen angel
- Fallen angels are demons
- Not all of the angels fell
- angels can come and go just like you and I

Obadiah or Mosrhigh pls help me out here.
please go to Gods word and get help from God himself ma'am.
You sound confused and in deep ogbono soup.
I think you should take a long break from nairaland.

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Re: Exigesis Of Genesis Chapter 1 by Tgirl4real(f): 9:59pm On Sep 03, 2013
TinyPurpleBaby: [font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font]

I really really dont know grin grin grin

lol

Contd.

- Angels are messengers

- Angels have celestial bodies:

Is it when they are on earth that they are humans?

Where are they when they are not on earth?

I wanna believe there is a literal heaven aside heaven beaing rulership. Right?
Re: Exigesis Of Genesis Chapter 1 by Tgirl4real(f): 10:00pm On Sep 03, 2013
Chibuebem: please go to Gods word and get help from God himself ma'am.
You sound confused and in deep ogbono soup.
I think you should take a long break from nairaland.

Are u ok?

Do you even know what I am talking about? grin
Re: Exigesis Of Genesis Chapter 1 by MostHigh: 10:03pm On Sep 03, 2013
Tgirl4real: Hey guys,

I seriously need help wrapping my head around some things....

Let me see if I can make sense with I already have...


- God created Adam in his image n likeness
- Thus Adam is the son of God - God's people - Isreal
- Sons of God are angels
- angels are human- When Adam fell, he became a fallen angel
- Fallen angels are demons
- Not all of the angels fell
- angels can come and go just like you and I

Obadiah or Mosrhigh pls help me out here.

Regarding semyaza and the fallen angels with him

Book of Enoch 6

1.And it came to pass, when the sons of men had increased, that in those days there were born to them fair and beautiful daughters.


2.And the Angels, the sons of Heaven, saw them and desired them. And they said to one another: "Come, let us choose for ourselves wives, from the children of men, and let us beget, for ourselves, children."


3.And Semyaza, who was their leader, said to them: "I fear that you may not wish this deed to be done and that I alone will pay for this great sin."
.

4.And they all answered him, and said: "Let us all swear an oath, and bind one-another with curses, so not to alter this plan, but to carry out this plan effectively."

5.Then they all swore together and all bound one another with curses to it.

6.And they were, in all, two hundred and they came down on Ardis, which is the summit of Mount Hermon. And they called the mountain Hermon because on it they swore and bound one another with curses.

7.And these are the names of their leaders: Semyaza, who was their leader, Urakiba, Ramiel, Kokabiel, Tamiel, Ramiel, Daniel, Ezeqiel, Baraqiel, Asael, Armaros, Batriel, Ananel, Zaqiel, Samsiel, Satael, Turiel, Yomiel, Araziel.


8.These are the leaders of the two hundred Angels and of all the others with them

All of them human like you and me born of women. smiley
Re: Exigesis Of Genesis Chapter 1 by Nobody: 10:04pm On Sep 03, 2013
Tgirl4real:

Are u ok?

Do you even know what I am talking about? grin
from your reaction ma'am, maybe i don't know what you're talking about...I apologize if i offended you.
Re: Exigesis Of Genesis Chapter 1 by Tgirl4real(f): 10:06pm On Sep 03, 2013
*Disclaimer*

If your user ID is not Mosthigh or Obadiah, pls don't quote or reply me.

a few who know themselves have the special priviledge to respond. smiley

@Chi,

Sorry, I lashed out at you like that. You have no idea of what I'm talking about. Just leave it, alright? tongue
Re: Exigesis Of Genesis Chapter 1 by MostHigh: 10:07pm On Sep 03, 2013
Chibuebem: please go to Gods word and get help from God himself ma'am.
You sound confused and in deep ogbono soup.
I think you should take a long break from nairaland.

All she needs is persistence Surely the holy spirit will not deny her smiley

Why be a detractor?

What is your intention?

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Re: Exigesis Of Genesis Chapter 1 by Tgirl4real(f): 10:07pm On Sep 03, 2013
Chibuebem: from your reaction ma'am, maybe i don't know what you're talking about...I apologize if i offended you.

awww... u beat me to it.

I apologise too.

Just waka pass or watch from the side line.
Re: Exigesis Of Genesis Chapter 1 by Tgirl4real(f): 10:11pm On Sep 03, 2013
MostHigh:

Regarding semyaza and the fallen angels with him

Book of Enoch 6

1.And it came to pass, when the sons of men had increased, that in those days there were born to them fair and beautiful daughters.


2.And the Angels, the sons of Heaven, saw them and desired them. And they said to one another: "Come, let us choose for ourselves wives, from the children of men, and let us beget, for ourselves, children."


3.And Semyaza, who was their leader, said to them: "I fear that you may not wish this deed to be done and that I alone will pay for this great sin."
.

4.And they all answered him, and said: "Let us all swear an oath, and bind one-another with curses, so not to alter this plan, but to carry out this plan effectively."

5.Then they all swore together and all bound one another with curses to it.

6.And they were, in all, two hundred and they came down on Ardis, which is the summit of Mount Hermon. And they called the mountain Hermon because on it they swore and bound one another with curses.

7.And these are the names of their leaders: Semyaza, who was their leader, Urakiba, Ramiel, Kokabiel, Tamiel, Ramiel, Daniel, Ezeqiel, Baraqiel, Asael, Armaros, Batriel, Ananel, Zaqiel, Samsiel, Satael, Turiel, Yomiel, Araziel.


8.These are the leaders of the two hundred Angels and of all the others with them

All of them human like you and me born of women. smiley

So, who are those referred to as sons of men here with beautiful daughters - the gentiles?
Re: Exigesis Of Genesis Chapter 1 by MostHigh: 10:11pm On Sep 03, 2013
Tgirl4real: *Disclaimer*

If your user ID is not Mosthigh or Obadiah, pls don't quote or reply me.

a few who know themselves have the special priviledge to respond. smiley

@Chi,

Sorry, I lashed out at you like that. You have no idea of what I'm talking about. Just leave it, alright? tongue


Tgirl4real do a Google on theosis for some more insightfull material.
Re: Exigesis Of Genesis Chapter 1 by Nobody: 10:14pm On Sep 03, 2013
Tgirl4real: *Disclaimer*

If your user ID is not Mosthigh or Obadiah, pls don't quote or reply me.

a few who know themselves have the special priviledge to respond. smiley

@Chi,

Sorry, I lashed out at you like that. You have no idea of what I'm talking about. Just leave it, alright? tongue
yes ma'am. grin
Re: Exigesis Of Genesis Chapter 1 by MostHigh: 10:15pm On Sep 03, 2013
Tgirl4real:

So, who are those referred to as sons of men here with beautiful daughters - the gentiles?

Yep

Those in opposition to heaven
Re: Exigesis Of Genesis Chapter 1 by Tgirl4real(f): 10:16pm On Sep 03, 2013
MostHigh:


Tgirl4real do a Google on theosis for some more insightfull material.

I will. I was about looking for where you mentioned it earlier so I can look it up.

It's really not fair stressing you guys if do not study it myself.
Re: Exigesis Of Genesis Chapter 1 by MostHigh: 10:19pm On Sep 03, 2013
Tgirl4real:

I will. I was about looking for where you mentioned it earlier so I can look it up.

It's really not fair stressing you guys if do not study it myself.

The fathers field can never be stressfulsmiley

We give thanks that we can work his field.
Re: Exigesis Of Genesis Chapter 1 by Tgirl4real(f): 10:19pm On Sep 03, 2013
MostHigh:

Yep

Those in opposition to heaven


That makes that very clear.

From Jude n Peter, I believe these are the angels that left their first estate, right?

What about satan, devil, demons n co?
Re: Exigesis Of Genesis Chapter 1 by Tgirl4real(f): 10:20pm On Sep 03, 2013
MostHigh:

The fathers field can never be stressfulsmiley

We give thanks that we can work his field.

I'm delighted...smiley


How was your day?
Re: Exigesis Of Genesis Chapter 1 by MostHigh: 10:21pm On Sep 03, 2013
Tgirl4real:

That makes that very clear.

From Jude n Peter, I believe these are the angels that left their first estate, right?

What about satan, devil, demons n co?

Yep your spot on these are those that left their first estate and its all detailed in the book of enoch

The book of enoch is the history of mother earth pre genesis smiley A wonderfull read anytime

Well seeing that semyaza is the chief adversary to heaven here, in the scriptural sense he is Satan

And the other angels with him demons

It was they that taught the carnal men all the technological and magical arts as we read in the book of Enoch, to further enslave them and through them enslave their generations, the Nephillim (magicians)
Re: Exigesis Of Genesis Chapter 1 by MostHigh: 10:25pm On Sep 03, 2013
Tgirl4real:

I'm delighted...smiley


How was your day?

We give thanks sister, I hope yours was not too stressfull.smiley

Caesar and his tins.
Re: Exigesis Of Genesis Chapter 1 by Tgirl4real(f): 10:36pm On Sep 03, 2013
MostHigh:

Yep your spot on these are those that left their first estate and its all detailed in the book of enoch

The book of enoch is the history of mother earth pre genesis smiley A wonderfull read anytime

Well seeing that semyaza is the chief adversary to heaven here, in the scriptural sense he is Satan

And the other angels with him demons

It was they that taught the carnal men all the technological and magical arts as we read in the book of Enoch, to further enslave them and through them enslave their generations, the Nephillim (magicians)

hmmm....the carnal men will be the heathens, they taught them their art....there by multiplying the demons.

that will be from the corrupted knowlegde they have....I see...hmmm...
(
I will go read. Just not enough time in 24 hrs. smiley

Just curious, what happened to this crossbred by the way? Adam-Gentile breed grin

Can this be likened to Moses marrying out of the tribe of Isreal?
Re: Exigesis Of Genesis Chapter 1 by Tgirl4real(f): 10:38pm On Sep 03, 2013
MostHigh:

We give thanks sister, I hope yours was not too stressfull.smiley

Caesar and his tins.

Stressful o....I don't understand this kinda work slavery. God help us!
Re: Exigesis Of Genesis Chapter 1 by Tgirl4real(f): 11:35am On Sep 04, 2013
Another question that comes to mind is how this relates to the fall of Adam as a whole resulting to our present state.

I know exegesis of Genesis 3 will help a lot in addressing this...but how do I convince Obadiah to continue ehn? grin

hmm...let me start preparing my tithes and offering. grin

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Re: Exigesis Of Genesis Chapter 1 by Nobody: 12:22pm On Sep 04, 2013
Tgirl4real: Another question that comes to mind is how this relates to the fall of Adam as a whole resulting to our present state.

I know exegesis of Genesis 3 will help a lot in addressing this...but how do I convince Obadiah to continue ehn? grin

hmm...let me start preparing my tithes and offering. grin

...dont forget to build the church grin grin grin
Re: Exigesis Of Genesis Chapter 1 by mcfynest(m): 1:35pm On Sep 04, 2013
Tgirl4real: Another question that comes to mind is how this relates to the fall of Adam as a whole resulting to our present state.

I know exegesis of Genesis 3 will help a lot in addressing this...but how do I convince Obadiah to continue ehn? grin

hmm...let me start preparing my tithes and offering. grin

AND WE WILL START SOWING SEED OF FAITH
Re: Exigesis Of Genesis Chapter 1 by Tgirl4real(f): 8:11pm On Sep 04, 2013
Obadiah, care to expantiate on this....

obadiah777: insecure ? no. i have done my duty. spreading the word of God. using my energy and time for free. you get to a point when the people get saturated and they start to fight back and rebel. thats when you exit the stage. i am looking for fresh recruits to gather to the lord.

lol


Where have you been? I hope you are not planning another suya thingz.
Re: Exigesis Of Genesis Chapter 1 by Ishilove: 11:35pm On Sep 04, 2013
MostHigh:

Regarding semyaza and the fallen angels with him

Book of Enoch 6

1.And it came to pass, when the sons of men had increased, that in those days there were born to them fair and beautiful daughters.


2.And the Angels, the sons of Heaven, saw them and desired them. And they said to one another: "Come, let us choose for ourselves wives, from the children of men, and let us beget, for ourselves, children."


3.And Semyaza, who was their leader, said to them: "I fear that you may not wish this deed to be done and that I alone will pay for this great sin."
.

4.And they all answered him, and said: "Let us all swear an oath, and bind one-another with curses, so not to alter this plan, but to carry out this plan effectively."

5.Then they all swore together and all bound one another with curses to it.

6.And they were, in all, two hundred and they came down on Ardis, which is the summit of Mount Hermon. And they called the mountain Hermon because on it they swore and bound one another with curses.

7.And these are the names of their leaders: Semyaza, who was their leader, Urakiba, Ramiel, Kokabiel, Tamiel, Ramiel, Daniel, Ezeqiel, Baraqiel, Asael, Armaros, Batriel, Ananel, Zaqiel, Samsiel, Satael, Turiel, Yomiel, Araziel.


8.These are the leaders of the two hundred Angels and of all the others with them

All of them human like you and me born of women. smiley
What tha f...?!? shocked shocked shocked
sad undecided shocked sad sad undecided
Re: Exigesis Of Genesis Chapter 1 by Nobody: 11:37pm On Sep 04, 2013
Ishilove:
What tha f...?!? shocked shocked shocked
sad undecided shocked sad sad undecided
Why you perplexed ? cheesy
Re: Exigesis Of Genesis Chapter 1 by Nobody: 11:38pm On Sep 04, 2013
Tgirl4real: Obadiah, care to expantiate on this....



lol


Where have you been? I hope you are not planning another suya thingz.
yup had suya yesterday. tasted just the same as naija suya. university of suya on 1 allen avenue grin i make the best suya ever

explain that post ? my team mate i am supposed to be in unity with was scoffing and calling me satan and then all of a sudden it seemed i was getting all these scoffing posts but it got triggered by what i had been observing with my team mate since i started the job. so i just thought ? you know what ? fork all this shyttt. i dont have to be dealing with all this nonsense. a moment of anger. and in case you are wondering about my french language >>>> 2 corinthians 11 vs 6 But though I be rude in speech, yet not in knowledge; but we have been throughly made manifest among you in all things.
Re: Exigesis Of Genesis Chapter 1 by Ishilove: 11:39pm On Sep 04, 2013
Emmm... dakun omo iya, where can one find this book of Enoch??

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Re: Exigesis Of Genesis Chapter 1 by Ishilove: 11:41pm On Sep 04, 2013
obadiah777: Why you perplexed ? cheesy
I'm perplexed because I have never heard of the book of Enoch, neither have I read this account of this...Semazaya et al

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