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Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by Nobody: 9:42am On Oct 01, 2013 |
While they should be remorseful for their shameful misadventure of Jan '66...they are here: Justifying what they did. Lying about their shameful culpability ...and blaming all other Nigerians except their own political and military leaders of that era. 3 Likes |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by pazienza(m): 9:53am On Oct 01, 2013 |
ilugunboy: Why they should be remorseful for their shameful misadventure of Jan '66...they are here: Why are the yorubas not showing remorse for their power grabing, instead they are becoming more power hungry? Right from trying to grab power from balewa,they proceeded to trying to grab power from IBB, then when they got power, they tried to stay longer than was constitutionally allowed by trying to serve a third term, now they are trying to grab GEJ power as junior partners to their northern husbands. Why why why? Why are the yorubas this power hungry,when are they going to start showing remorse? 1 Like |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by pazienza(m): 9:56am On Oct 01, 2013 |
pazienza: Here is a recap of yoruba power grab history for those who missed it,right from indepedence under awo, through obj,and now under tinubu. |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by grafikii: 9:59am On Oct 01, 2013 |
Katsumoto:And this nonsense still happening today, ibos never learn 1 Like |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by nku5: 10:00am On Oct 01, 2013 |
Katsumoto: I am shocked to hear your opinion about Unegbe's death being unrelated to the coup when he was shot by the coup plotters during the execution of same. What then was the reason for his death? Ademulegun reached for a gun and the gunmen shot him. Its the equivalent of a 50/50 challenge in football. For ahmadu bellos wife its neither here nor their. If she was trying to help him get away like a devoted wife might do she would risk getting shot and she went for it. Some accounts have it that he hid behind her and they shot through her. Akintola opened up on the plotters like a real man and went down with pride in my opinion. As for the hate speeches by ahmadu bello and his ally akintola, are u insinuating that these two men were saints or that they were innocent of what they accused others of? Why did the midwest region choose to go on their own if all was well in the western region and why was J.S. Tarka so gung-ho about middle belt independence from the monolithic north. My personal opinion after reading ahmadu bello's infamous interview where he stated that the north would dominate the south was that the man deserved to be kicked out of any place of authority. I still also ask why did useni and the northern elite not massacre plateau ppl when murtala was killed by plateau officers? The filthy lies and rhetoric nurtured and recited over time about igbos made it possible for the northerners to commit the genocide. Plain and simple. 4 Likes |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by Nobody: 10:10am On Oct 01, 2013 |
pazienza: Same old rhetorical crap of justifying the gruesome...horrific and violent killings of other ethnic leaders while conveniently letting theirs slipped through. 1 Like |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by ijawcitizen(m): 10:23am On Oct 01, 2013 |
Orlando Owoh: They are now paying for their selfishness and greed: none of them will rule this country. They know this hence their always queuing and shifting the goal post of when they will produce the president: from 2015 to 2019. Waiting without an end. Una never see anything. They have resorted to be backing Ijaw, an ethnic group they suppressed in the defunct Eastern Region, which they are counting on to have over power to them in 2019, as if the Presidency is a rellay race baton.lol.....in addition to that trend, they are now practically begging for REGIONAL INTEGRATION. For God's sake isn't every part of the country already integrated in every sense possible? Maybe except for something else which Igbos have not come up to tell us yet. 1 Like |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by pazienza(m): 10:25am On Oct 01, 2013 |
ilugunboy: Same old rhetoric of of painting others black and yourselves as angels, awo was at a power grabing game,but akintola was busy painting igbos as devils, awo got caught twice and still died trying to grab power,but you don't see that, maybe yorubas seeing igbos as power grabing group is becos, that's what yoruba themselves are,people see themselves in other people. Just tell tinubu to look at what happened to awo and his power grabing game,his end will be the same if he keeps eyeing GEJ power. |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by Nobody: 10:26am On Oct 01, 2013 |
ijaw citizen: lol.....in addition to that trend, they are now practically begging for REGIONAL INTEGRATION. For God's sake isn't every part of the country already integrated in every sense possible? Maybe except for something else which Igbos have not come up to tell us yet. Simple...they covet your land..read that as your oil. They also want your seas. 1 Like |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by pazienza(m): 10:27am On Oct 01, 2013 |
ijaw citizen: lol.....in addition to that trend, they are now practically begging for REGIONAL INTEGRATION. For God's sake isn't every part of the country already integrated in every sense possible? Maybe except for something else which Igbos have not come up to tell us yet. Yoruba citizen,kee ije? How many plates of amala have you eaten this morning? 1 Like |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by pazienza(m): 10:28am On Oct 01, 2013 |
ilugunboy: Nobody body in the east covets yorubaland, we covet just lagos, cos we know it's not part of yorubaland. |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by Nobody: 10:30am On Oct 01, 2013 |
pazienza: Stop comparing two different issues. No correlation between what you are forcefully trying to imply. If power is seek constitutionally ..it's welcome...but when your political leaders and military leaders jointly conspired to kill political leaders and military officers from other ethnic groups in a moment of senseless rush of blood to the head...then that is completely ungodly and illegal. 2 Likes |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by Nobody: 10:34am On Oct 01, 2013 |
pazienza: You are eternally deluded. Your grandfathers tried it then...but you all are still yet to recover from the miscalculation. 3 Likes |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by Italiano1: 10:35am On Oct 01, 2013 |
pazienza: You see how daft you are? The same stupidity that your fore-fathers exhibited years ago is still well and truly alive among the Black Jews. You covet a Yorubaland that is surrounded by the rest of the SW? He who the gods want to destroy, they first make mad! 3 Likes |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by Emperor007: 10:35am On Oct 01, 2013 |
ijaw citizen: lol.....in addition to that trend, they are now practically begging for REGIONAL INTEGRATION. For God's sake isn't every part of the country already integrated in every sense possible? Maybe except for something else which Igbos have not come up to tell us yet. ^^^ Why not answer your real name " Yoruba citizen", and stop living a fake life? You can only boast of today, tomorrow is pregnant. . |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by pazienza(m): 10:54am On Oct 01, 2013 |
ilugunboy: If yoruba power grab was legal,your kingpin wouldn't have been found guilty of treason twice, if your power grab was legal,there wouldn't have been a drive to change the constitution by obj,to accommodate yoruba's power grab. Your power grab was the first in this country,it was illegal, ungodly and shameful, yet you show no remorse, rather you are at another power grabing mission with the north,using and backing all illegal means possible,including trying to turn a civil unrest into a revolution and forcing the president to resign, you are even currently in bed with the north, whose political engine,boko haram has been shedding people's blood, and whose son( buhari) promised naija hell when he lost the last election,their hands are soaked with the blood of the innocent,but your power grab spirit doesn't care. Just how desperate are the yoruba race for power? 1 Like |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by pazienza(m): 10:57am On Oct 01, 2013 |
Italiano1: Chill, lagos is there for taking, the british,USSR, and egypt won't come to your aid this time around,it will be just you against your nightmare( igbos). *grins* 1 Like |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by Katsumoto: 11:02am On Oct 01, 2013 |
naijaking1: How does calling Insincere Nigerian a money grabbing propaganda artist translate to calling all Igbos lovers of money? Everyone on these boards know that Sincere Nigerian is a political jobber. Or can you point to where I called Igbo people lovers of money? Please read my comment again. I expect you to do the honourable thing and apologize. This strategy of calling a dog a bad name in other to hang it will not work on me. I am disappointed that you have joined that bandwagon; I thought you to be a reasonable person. I will address the rest of your post in a couple of hours. 2 Likes |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by pazienza(m): 11:03am On Oct 01, 2013 |
ilugunboy: Nah, the british,USSR, and Egypt stood on our way, we were no match for them. Who knows, with the syria showdown coming up, those people might just be too busy,and we can finally have you for meat. *grins* 1 Like |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by pazienza(m): 11:08am On Oct 01, 2013 |
Emperor_007: Haha, he started off as a kanuri(alj harem), then he became half kanuri and half igbo(alj uche) then he metamorphosed into an itsekiri(jason) and later transformed into an annang( ocelot), he would later become an awori man( step1) and then he grew to become an ijaw citizen. A true yorubaman,i must tell you. *grins* 2 Likes |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by khamas19: 11:09am On Oct 01, 2013 |
Katsumoto: ..ah!!! thank you sir!!..thank you!! 4 Likes |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by Italiano1: 11:12am On Oct 01, 2013 |
pazienza: You can keep on dreaming and hoping You are so deluded that you are starting to believe your own psychotic thoughts, what happened to your ecologically devastated lands between 1967-1970 will be like a child's play compared to the annihilation that you would suffer if and when you summon the courage to attack Lagos. 1 Like |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by pazienza(m): 11:20am On Oct 01, 2013 |
Italiano1: If enugu even after british powered land strikes, egyptian powered air raids, could rise from those ruins and still be a better living place than Ibadan, than i think we have our game on. By the way, the so called annihillation were powered by britain,Egypt and USSR, they won't be in the equation next time around. 1 Like |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by pazienza(m): 11:33am On Oct 01, 2013 |
It would appear we have to drum this into the ears of yorubas. Zik forming alliance with the north was as a result of awo treachery,when awo came to zik to form alliance against the north,and sent akintola at the same time to north to form alliance against the east, awo was a typical yorubaman,i suspect he played this same game against ojukwu, anyway, zik was a wise man, he caught awo on his act, and told the north about awo's dishonesty,and went ahead to form an alliance with the north. It was yoruba power grabing antics that killed the would be southern unity, and pushed zik towards north,leaving awo and his yoruba people frustrated. Rather than blame themselves and their treacherous behaviour for their lack of political power,the yorubas would go on and blame Igbos and zik for not allowing themselves to be used by the yorubas to grab power,like they later did with ojukwu. The yorubas would later try to take central power by force,since their treachery couldn't give it to them legally, their kingpin was caught, tried by a court of law and rightfully jailed. Rather than blame their power grabing mission for their travails and the imprisonment of their kingpin, the yorubas would once again cast all their blame on igbos, accusing igbos of setting awo up. Oh dear! 2 Likes |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by papparatzzi2013: 11:58am On Oct 01, 2013 |
Sincere 9gerian: I have taken the pains to go through most of the comments on this thread. Unfortunately, what I see on this thread is the very PROBLEM that has kept Nigeria down since Independence. This PROBLEM appears to be intractable. Who were the people making mockery of the assassinated people? Who made the t-shirts making mockery of the dead, who were the people wearing them? Who were the people making the machine gun sounds even in market places? Who were the people drawing cartoons of the dead people? It was those ethnic soldiers again abi? If the answers to the questions asked above are not those your power drunk blood thirst soldiers, then it cannot be treated on individual basis, it was and is and is still a full ethnic igbo coup. All the argument your e-warriors are getting into is just either for intellectual exercise or simply regurgitating the fallacy and propaganda they have been telling themselves in their village square. Do you think others are daft and cannot reason. There is no big deal in seeing the coup as igbo coup. At least the hausas are never apologetic that the 2nd coup.was purely an Hausa coup. Trying to defend the indefensible is an insult on others and the same dumb and stupid mistakes your fathers made in the 60s. 5 Likes |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by Nobody: 12:02pm On Oct 01, 2013 |
pazienza: You are still exhibiting same old childish enthusiasm that Ojukwu exhibited against superior and wise counsel. Lagos is for grab....you will surely grab more than you will ever bargain for this time around. |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by pazienza(m): 12:04pm On Oct 01, 2013 |
papparatzzi2013: here we go again! Where are these people crawling out from sef? At this rate i would finish my mb on this thread. *grins* 1 Like |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by papparatzzi2013: 12:06pm On Oct 01, 2013 |
pazienza: So Ojukwu and his lieutenants were so daft that they did not know.they needed international countries on their side. Mind you, you were supported by Israel, the Vatican, SA, Rhodesia, France, Portugal, Tanzania and Equatorial Guinea and definitely Cote 'd Ivoire. So spare us the British and Russian supporting Nigeria. It is called war and countries are opined to support who ever they like based on their conviction, political alliance and benefits to be derived. |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by Katsumoto: 12:10pm On Oct 01, 2013 |
pazienza: What an honour; to be described as being more Yoruba than Awo. Second you must be high on something, was he responding to me in the post you quoted? |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by pazienza(m): 12:11pm On Oct 01, 2013 |
ilugunboy: Which wise counsel? the same wise counsel that was being given to zik, trying to deceive him with southern solidarity ,while akintola was sent to go and negotiate a power deal with the north, i bet he played same game with ojukwu,a leopard can't change it's spots. Treacherous counsel would have been a better tag. 2 Likes |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by pazienza(m): 12:14pm On Oct 01, 2013 |
papparatzzi2013: Where exactly did you crawl out from? 3 Likes |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by Nobody: 12:21pm On Oct 01, 2013 |
pazienza: You've lost... All you are doing is the reaction of a slaughtered hen after the head has been severed |
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