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Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by Eledan: 5:20pm On Oct 01, 2013 |
remark D: and I assure you of three things: Now this is as funny and as crappy as it can get... Did a human being just typed out this bullshytee? ![]() ![]() ![]() Ibo will over run Yorubaland starting from Lagos and facing eastwards? What are you smoking on this Independence Day? ![]() 1 Like |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by remarkD(m): 5:22pm On Oct 01, 2013 |
My brother, God bless you for this apt truth in the face of born liars that have no shame to tell bold lies without biting an eyelid.The people that started tribalism in Nigeria are the ones that come online to call others tribalists... The people that are clowns are the ones that come online to call others clowns... and this is the baffling one.... seeing a Yoruba call another a coward.... that is just so unbelieveable to me. ... I mean, that's worse than pot calling kettle black, its like... a goat telling an eagle "You can't fly" or something like that. pazienza: 3 Likes |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by Eledan: 5:24pm On Oct 01, 2013 |
pazienza: Btw, nobody wants SW, we only want lagos,as we are well aware that lagos is 'no man's land' and not part of SW. The whole of Iboland would have been fully decimated before you cross into Ore this time. ![]() 3 Likes |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by pazienza(m): 5:25pm On Oct 01, 2013 |
dayokanu: Nigeria is still one country,so the analogy of mexico and USA you gave is flawed. People migrate to lagos the same way and for the same reason they migrate to Abuja, it doesn't have anything to do with yorubas who live in mudhouse infested jungles of Osun,Oyo,Ondo,Ekiti and Ogun, or with gwari people that live in rural and jungles within the FCT boundary or Niger state. 3 Likes |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by remarkD(m): 5:31pm On Oct 01, 2013 |
Uhhm... I dunno, man... dunno if I agree that "we were no match for them (the British etc)"... I mean... Libya didn't last 6 months... even though they were not getting as much support as Nigeria did against Biafra... I recall reading a description of Biafrans soldiers as... in fact, I dey come, make I go find ambefore they charge me of misquoting... pazienza: 1 Like |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by nku5: 5:31pm On Oct 01, 2013 |
Katsumoto: 1. The scenario you described still indicates an opinion that remains to be substantiated. It only shows that anuforo went in with 3 ncos and brought kur out alive but went in alone to unegbe's (an igbo man) house and shot him (according to anuforo because he refused to cooperate). At best its just an idea that there was another motive unless there is anything else to connect the dots. Or you don't think so? 2. It wasnt Ademulegun that was rumoured to have hidden behind his wife it was Ahmadu Bello. I heard and agreed that ademulegun reached for his gun to defend his wife and himself like any man would do. Its not justification for killing a person (certainly not) but the frame of mind of armed soldiers with guns in the heat of the moment. Take a second look at my earlier post. 3. I am particular about you saying that their comments were "not without merit". Everyone has read ahmadu bello's interview or at least excerpt of it where he described his devotion to the cause of the north towards dominating the south and using many means including divide and rule. That same person has the temerity to accuse an entire ethnic group of traits that they find threatening. Not leaders of the tribe but the whole tribe. That's not the sort of leadership that any group of radical army officers like u had in the 1960's anywhere in the world would tolerate 4. It all boils down to bad rhetoric and stereotypes. All riots against igbos in the north were instigated by local northern politicians with devilish aims and ends or just an ignorant population. It is on record that a certain riot in the north (I think kano) was instigated in response to the booing in lagos of northern politicians in 1953 who came to the federal assembly and had voted against independence from britain. I hope we don't forget the Emir of Anka, Zamfara state spoke the truth recently in an interview (its on NL sef) that the stereotype of igbos was always used to settle political scores or wrestle business opportunities. 4 Likes |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by ACM10: 5:37pm On Oct 01, 2013 |
dayokanu: That joint that you are smoking is really affecting you. Ain't it time to quit? 1 Like |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by pazienza(m): 5:40pm On Oct 01, 2013 |
Katsumoto: Say what? |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by dayokanu(m): 5:44pm On Oct 01, 2013 |
pazienza: Even within the same country, Its the same poverty that makes people from Montana and Wyoming move to Texas and New York Take Wyoming vs Texas, Montana vs New York migration pattern that would tell you without any stats where is prosperous and where is poverty stricken |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by ACM10: 5:48pm On Oct 01, 2013 |
Katsumoto: I remember that you narrated the tale of "Fajuyi protecting Ironsi" this way. I ended up proving that it was a lie by posting the account of Lt. Walbe who was one of those that executed Ironsi's and Fajuyi. On the surface you story sounds credible. But when one digs deeper, he will discover that your tale is utter balderdash. The way you are narrating the story, one would think that you are an eye witness. Infact, you will make a good fiction writer. When is your novel coming out? ![]() 4 Likes |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by pazienza(m): 5:49pm On Oct 01, 2013 |
remark D: Uhhm... I dunno, man... dunno if I agree that "we were no match for them (the British etc)"... I mean... Libya didn't last 6 months... even though they were not getting as much support as Nigeria did against Biafra... I recall reading a description of Biafrans soldiers as... in fact, I dey come, make I go find ambefore they charge me of misquoting... Bro, if we were a match for the brits,we would have won that war. 1. We lacked the ability or capability to produce modern guns and bullets of that era. Our troops were motivated,we had fighting spirit and pain going for us, but we were just not able to give them guns and bullets. 2. We lost control of our region,leaving our non-igbo brothers at the mercy of nigerian army,they did what they could do to survive. 3. We made too many tactical blunders,the major which was handing the lagos expedition to a yoruba man in banjo. 2 Likes |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by pazienza(m): 5:51pm On Oct 01, 2013 |
dayokanu: Never knew that people migrate to Abuja,because of the prosperity of the gwari tribe, thanks for educating me on that. 1 Like |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by Italiano1: 5:52pm On Oct 01, 2013 |
remark D: and I assure you of three things: This is the problem we have with you and your type. You are deluded, resolutely stubborn and remarkably daft! 1, We are not stupid people, we will not mortgage the future of our children and go to war with 200 cutlasses because one eddiot said Shineke told him so. If or when Nigeria implodes, we have our exit strategy and will not turn our mothers/children to shooting targets because of mindless pride. Lagos is your New York and London- you can covet it all you want but you CAN NEVER have it ![]() ![]() 2. It is quite interesting that you keep bringing up this poverty story. Like Katz says to your Igbos all the time- migration patterns do not lie! Ibos keep trooping to the SW for a reason- why? Is it because there is virtually zero opportunities in your region? Is it because it ecologically devastated that it has become virtually unlivable? Ibos are scared shitless of returning back to Alaibo- it is like the end of the world for them. You are hypocrites and diabolically evil- 15 of of your homeless goons were sent back to their villages and you all went berserk but conveniently turn a blind eye when other ethnic groups are affected. 3.You keep banging on about doing business and we keep telling you that you are not as good as you think you are, ibos are predominantly involved in the primary sector of the SW economy hence why you dominate Ladipo and Alaba. The turnover from two Yoruba owned companies Eleganza and Ezlizade is double what you make in these markets which consists of thousands of ibo business men. The Stock Market- one of the most profitable exchanges in SSA is dominated by Yorubas- that industry is bigger than the SE economy The investment management sector i.e securities trading, wealth management etc is 90% dominated by Yorubas- an industry that is 2 times bigger than the SE Economy. For example have a look at the foremost Kakawa : http://www.kakawa.com/whoweare/directors/ I have not mentioned Oando, AP, Globacom, Honeywell etc Just because this is a faceless medium, it does not give you the license to open your mouth and start emitting crap. If you want to engage in such nonsense- go to ibo websites like www.ibokwenu.com and www.shinekeshallgiveusvictory.net 11 Likes |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by pazienza(m): 6:01pm On Oct 01, 2013 |
Italiano1: Wondering how the above post will help explain why SW jungles are mudhouse infested, why the people are so much inlove with black and white TVs, why you trailed Igbos in the JAMB enrolement statistics, Why ibadan the craddle of yoruba civilization,a true representation of awo and yoruba political ingenuity is an eyesore. 1 Like |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by Malawian(m): 6:09pm On Oct 01, 2013 |
Eledan: WHY IS IT THAT WHEN YOU ARE URINATING, LIZZARDS WILL BE LOOKING AT YOUR DICK? 1 Like |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by Eledan: 6:12pm On Oct 01, 2013 |
Malawian: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Your long lay off from this community is affecting your reasoning pattern. Did you eventually prostrate for Mukina before she released you? ![]() |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by Eledan: 6:14pm On Oct 01, 2013 |
pazienza: This is profoundly lame. You've been mentally tasked for far too long than your capacity....it's turning into a torture for you. ![]() ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by dayokanu(m): 6:19pm On Oct 01, 2013 |
pazienza: Which FG is in Ibadan, Akure, Lagos Abeokuta thats making your people flee Alaibo for Yorubaland Lagos has ceased to be Capital for over 20yrs yet no Iboman is fulfilled without stepping into Lagos |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by pazienza(m): 6:19pm On Oct 01, 2013 |
Eledan: Hmm. Have you taken your antipsychotic for this evening? *grins* |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by dayokanu(m): 6:22pm On Oct 01, 2013 |
pazienza: The human traffic alone which is mostly towards the SWest explains it all You can lie about any stats, but the Buses leaving Alaibo dont lie Either war, famine, crime or poverty choose which one is chasing you from Alaibo 3 Likes |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by pazienza(m): 6:25pm On Oct 01, 2013 |
dayokanu: Some Igbos are in Ibadan just to exploit the business opportunities there,just as some yorubas are in Enugu. Igbos only rush to lagos in large numbers,cos like i had said before,lagos is no man's land,and is like the rio de janeiro of naija,while Abuja is like brasilia. 2 Likes |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by redsun(m): 6:26pm On Oct 01, 2013 |
Did this kolofo that has been opportuned several times to mess with nigerian resources and people acquire his primary school leaving certifictate before he joined the army at all? All these explains why nigeria went down the drain fast,the people incharge where literally as unrefined as preneolithic creatures,untouched by reasoning and innovations.How they manged to hang on to power and rule supposedly sane people is something that baffles me. |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by Katsumoto: 6:37pm On Oct 01, 2013 |
pazienza: Sao Paulo is the proper example to use. Only in your thieving mind is Lagos 'no mans land'. |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by dayokanu(m): 6:38pm On Oct 01, 2013 |
pazienza: Some Igbos are in Ibadan just to exploit the business opportunities there,just as some yorubas are in Enugu. Igbos only rush to lagos in large numbers,cos like i had said before,lagos is no man's land,and is like the rio de janeiro of naija,while Abuja is like brasilia. There are more Ibos in Ibadan alone than Yorubas in the whole Southeast Its poverty that chases everyone out of Alaibo. 2 Likes |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by dayokanu(m): 6:41pm On Oct 01, 2013 |
Katsumoto: He probably used Rio to say that Rio was once capital of Brazil Its only a thieve who would call lagos no mans Land. Calabar was a capital How come Calabar is not No mans Land? Onyoshi 1 Like |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by Nobody: 6:45pm On Oct 01, 2013 |
pazienza: Why are you grinning like a mad-man? |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by remarkD(m): 6:57pm On Oct 01, 2013 |
I choose all three... 45% of Lagos belongs to the Igbos... that`s too small, its n F scoring 45%, ... so expect more and more loads of buses with Igbos in Lagos soon... and get your COs ready ... dayokanu: 1 Like |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by Nobody: 6:59pm On Oct 01, 2013 |
remark D: I choose all three... You are basically trapping yourself.... Hope you can swim and you can pronounce tooroo flawlessly without accent ![]() 1 Like |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by owobokiri(m): 7:01pm On Oct 01, 2013 |
Totally nonplussing how some loafers think that Sterile internet rants/taunts will EVER encourage igbos to shy away from completing the total economic DOMINATION of Lagos and her surroundings as destiny beckons. Very funny indeed! You tried progroms, then genocide/ethnic cleansing, then war, then state sponsored pauparisation/marginalization/exclusions....They all failed.. Now , in all your inventive splendor, the best you can come up with is to project your tiger faces at every igbo while shouting "go back and develope your red mud, erosion ravaged villages"! Thats so lame. . Do you really think that these ruggedly built bunch of goal getting Africans will be quite easily scared off by this chest thumping antics of some lousy cowards? You Awo urchins need to come up with something a bit more sophisticated than this shyte.. , this is so juvenile. . Whatever it is you come up with though, never try violence unless you want to turn your much loved "center of commerce" into the "center of conflict". 1 Like |
Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by GDLI: 7:07pm On Oct 01, 2013 |
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Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by Malawian(m): 7:09pm On Oct 01, 2013 |
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