To all in the fta arena.
Greetings of the moment to u all out there doing great job in signal tracking bussiness. I commend ur effort all.
Spaceman is back 4rm space, and I can see u guys hv penetrated so much to tap signals. D result of ur tracking is an indication of d sensitivity, right use/selection of ur equipment, and hw meticulous u are in ur search.
Great job done anyway.
Kudos to u oga Twinstaiye 4 ur moderation. Season 3 is equally nice in contribution.
I shall be more regular in ds season. Promise!
Enjoy!

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@ all
Assuming i procured a dstv decoder in Ghana or elsewhere out side nigeria with the intention of using it here , would i receive the same services or do they have as security that stop's it from working

so long as d dx is not configured for any particular service in ghana, I mean if its a universal dx, as blank as it its manufactured, it will work once u use a card dwn here.
Its just like u takin ur gsm phone 2 Ghana and buying a ghanian netwrk /sin card and slot 4 use. Notin stops it 4rm working!
My gurus hw una c am?

F_Marshal:

Remember, the LNB MUST have a dual out put for it to work.

Not necessarily. You could use a multi switch with multiple lnbs too. The goal is for you to be able
to watch more than one channels at the same time without conflict.

Lets say I have 3 dishes. One pointing to intelsat 7/10, the second to Eutelsat w3a and the third
Sirius 4 all connected through a diseqc switch to a reciever in the parlour and I'm living in a two or
three bedroom flat. Instead of just looping out the RF output of my decoder in the parlour to the other
other TVs in the rooms, I might decide to pass the output of the diseqc switch through a multi switch
to the TV in the parlour and those of the other rooms. Why is that? What is special in this arrangement?

Now, this is the difference: If I decide to pass the output of the RF port from the decoder to the TVs
in the other rooms, I can only watch whatever channel is on in the parlour (this is the most common
arrangement in many homes with FTA). But if I decide that I need freedom to watch any channel
independent of what is being watched in the parlour, I have to pass the output of the diseqc switch
through a multi switch to another decoder in my room. So that, while the children are watching, e.g, baby tv
channel (from Intelsat 7/10), I can be on any other channel, e.g, ETV-HYDE-PARK (from sirius 4) in my room.
If I decide to forgo the multiswitch and  pass the output of the diseqc through an ordinary two or 4-way splitter to my decoder in the room what I get is conflict between channels with horizontal or vertical
polarities. The decoder in the parlour becomes the 'master' decoder and those in the rooms become the
'slaves'. So, if the decoder in the parlour is on a channel with horizontal polarity, e.g, baby tv (intelsat 7/10),
the other ones in the rooms cannot recieve any channel on vertical polarity except you power off the master reciever in the parlour.

To avoid this kind of conflict, you need a multi switch so you can watch channels of different polarities
independent of each other.

Chuck101;

As long as you can see and receive the satellite it will work.
Your card dictate you services you would receive.
Your card may also dictate which local station you would receive.
I know people use to have GTV service from Ghana in Lagos.

@chuk101,
Why would you like to entangle yourself with a paytv service like DSTV?
We in this forum are made up of people who have at one time or the other
have our fingers burnt by the shylock tendencies of that provider. We have since
learnt that 90% of the crap being peddled by services like that can be gotten
free from space. With a little bit of knowledge and the right equipment, you
can save yourself the agony of being a perpetual money tree to DSTV and their
types. It is the search for such knowledge that brought most of us to this forum.
Therefore it will be a disservice and a set back on the purpose of this thread to
give you guidelines which will help you to achive the very oppsite of satellite
freedom.
If you ask me, I'd say to forget about DSTV and think more on how to get for
yourselve all or most of those channels that make them tick. And, I assure you,
they can be gotten for free.

George_D;

The output of the RF port from the decoder gives you the same TV channel being watched on that decoder.
The output of the LOOP BACK port from the decoder gives you the same polarity being used on the decoder.
You would have to have an LNB with two out put (i.e. duel LNB ) on the antenna two get the Horizontal and Vertical output (one from each output) and fed to a switch and then the decoder s programmed to pick up the horizontal/vertical from the correct port.
I have this set up at my place. I have one antenna that picks up the vertical of PAS7/10 and another horizontal ( I did not find duel output C-ban LNB) and the vertical is shared with my other neighbors who are using DSTV c-band via a dstv splitter box.
Let me know if this is clear. You need a duel LNB to get totally independent output.

@LagosSky,
You're saying exactly the same thing F-Marshal said and which I tried to clarify with my long post above.
With a dual output lnb, the need for a multiswitch becomes less important. You can always configure
two recievers with different polarities to recieve all the channels without conflict. And you don't need a
multiswitch to do that.

For a multi lnb set up (with single output each), you need a multi switch connected after the diseqc switch
output to the diffrent receivers if you want to watch the birds indipendently.

@ All
If you want to connect more receivers to your dish you need a multiswitch. Please see attached photo.

@ All,
When connecting 2 LNB's to 4 Receivers you require (2pcs) 3x4 Multi-switches. Remember to set the correct DiSEqC ports in each receiver .For multi-LNB setups, add a 3x4 Multi-switch for each additional LNB. See photo

Pitodenz,
I can be reached through toxnaija@gmail.com

Olofofo,
pls update us on the Invacom lnb asap.thanks for the updates.

George_D:

Not necessarily. You could use a multi switch with multiple lnbs too. The goal is for you to be able
to watch more than one channels at the same time without conflict.

Lets say I have 3 dishes. One pointing to intelsat 7/10, the second to Eutelsat w3a and the third
Sirius 4 all connected through a diseqc switch to a reciever in the parlour and I'm living in a two or
three bedroom flat. Instead of just looping out the RF output of my decoder in the parlour to the other
other TVs in the rooms, I might decide to pass the output of the diseqc switch through a multi switch
to the TV in the parlour and those of the other rooms. Why is that? What is special in this arrangement?

Now, this is the difference: If I decide to pass the output of the RF port from the decoder to the TVs
in the other rooms, I can only watch whatever channel is on in the parlour (this is the most common
arrangement in many homes with FTA). But if I decide that I need freedom to watch any channel
independent of what is being watched in the parlour, I have to pass the output of the diseqc switch
through a multi switch to another decoder in my room. So that, while the children are watching, e.g, baby tv
channel (from Intelsat 7/10), I can be on any other channel, e.g, ETV-HYDE-PARK (from sirius 4) in my room.
If I decide to forgo the multiswitch and  pass the output of the diseqc through an ordinary two or 4-way splitter to my decoder in the room what I get is conflict between channels with horizontal or vertical
polarities. The decoder in the parlour becomes the 'master' decoder and those in the rooms become the
'slaves'. So, if the decoder in the parlour is on a channel with horizontal polarity, e.g, baby tv (intelsat 7/10),
the other ones in the rooms cannot recieve any channel on vertical polarity except you power off the master reciever in the parlour.

To avoid this kind of conflict, you need a multi switch so you can watch channels of different polarities
independent of each other.

George_D, This is a simple matter. Your three SAT example cannot be achieved if the LNBs only have a single output. For you to achieve what you're looking for you need ( I say it again) LNB with a DUAL output connected to a multi- switch or  2 4X1 DiseqC switches with each ouput going to Receivers in your palour and Bedroom. Another method is using a Band Stacked LNB, that uses the "One Cable System or OCS"  method which I doubt you do and connected to a multi-switch. Remember, to use a BandStacked LNB, your Receiver must be OCS capable. If you do what you have been theorizing above, there will be a conflict. Period!!!!  Look at the diagrams by BUTONEDAY and LagosSky as guides. I hope this helps.

Quote from: fopros on March 24, 2009, 07:27 PM

Just want to say hello to everyone.Since my 4653 fried after upgrading, i am cut off TV for awhile. I am still thinking about what kind of decoder to buy.i need your advice brethen.
I also have a question, where is now GTV, i mean Ghana television.
God bless you all

@fopros,
Just an update on the above post:

I stumbled on this news story about GTV while browsing the web. Looks like they're
still sold to DSTV.

Check out this link: http://allafrica.com/stories/200903130792.html

toxnaija:

Pitodenz,
I can be reached through toxnaija@gmail.com

Olofofo,
pls update us on the Invacom lnb asap.thanks for the updates.

Tox!!! How u dey nah?? I hope sey u no dey insai bush as u dey FTA Naira land so o!

@F-Marshal & BUTONEDAY,
I understand. Looks like there are more than one way to these
things. Break the myth! Thanks.

f-marshal,
i will be in the bush in an hour.how body?

olofofo,
jsc is off on echolink.pls confirm.

toxnaija:

olofofo,
jsc is off on echolink.pls confirm.

update with the new patch that contains all three. it's in the group.

@Chuk101,

Check out the list below. Compare what DSTV is offering and calculate the actual
percentage of proprietary channels to those that are FTA. Tell me the wisdom of throwing
money at such a grand fraud! Which of these so-called 'proprietary' channels can't you get from
nilesat, hotbird, eurobird or even eutelsat or intelsat?
Shine your eyes o before you make yourself a lifetime money tree for DSTV

General Entertainment & Movies:

100 - DStv Guide Proprietary
101 - M-Net Proprietary
102 - M-Net Africa Proprietary
103 - M-Net Movies 1 Proprietary
104 - M-Net Movies 2 Proprietary
105 - M-Net Stars Proprietary
106 - M-Net Action Proprietary
108 - Hallmark Channel FTA
109 - TCM FTA
110 - M-Net Series Proprietary
111 - KykNET Proprietary
112 - Magic World Proprietary
113 - Sony Entertainment Television FTA
114 - Africa Magic Proprietary
115 - Africa Magic + Proprietary
120 - BBC Entertainment FTA
123 - GO Proprietary
124 - E! Entertainment FTA
125 - Zone Reality Proprietary
126 - Animax Proprietary
131 - SABC 1 FTA
132 - SABC 2 FTA
133 - SABC 3 FTA
134 - e.tv FTA
145 - Games Channel Proprietary
150 - Soweto TV FTA


170 - M-Net HD Proprietary

Lifestyle:

180 - BBC Lifestyle FTA
181 - Travel Channel FTA
182 - The Home Channel Proprietary
183 - Style Network Proprietary
184 - Fashion TV FTA
198 - Events (Currently Idols Channel)
199 - Events

Sport:

200 - SuperSport Update Proprietary
201 - SuperSport 1 Proprietary
202 - SuperSport 2 Proprietary
203 - SuperSport 3 Proprietary
204 - SuperSport 4 Proprietary
205 - SuperSport 5 Proprietary
206 - SuperSport 6 Proprietary
207 - SuperSport 7 Proprietary
208 - SuperSport Maximo Proprietary
209 - SuperSport Select Proprietary
230 - ESPN FTA
231 - ESPN Classic FTA
232 - TellyTrack Proprietary
247 - SuperSport Action Proprietary

Documentary:

250 - Discovery Channel FTA
251 - BBC Knowledge FTA
254 - The History Channel FTA
255 - Crime & Investigation Network Proprietary
260 - National Geographic Channel FTA
261 - Nat Geo Wild FTA
264 - Animal Planet FTA

Children:

300 - K-All Day (Changing to Kowee Channel 06 April 2009)
301 - Cartoon Network FTA
302 - Boomerang FTA
303 - Disney Channel FTA
304 - Jetix (coming soon) N/A
305 - Nickelodeon FTA
306 - CBeebies Proprietary
319 - Mindset Learn FTA

Music:

320 - Channel O Proprietary
321 - MTV Europe FTA
322 - MTV Base FTA
323 - VH1 FTA
324 - MK Proprietary
325 - TRACE TV FTA
327 - Soundcity Premium Nigeria FTA
331 - One Gospel Proprietary

Religion:

341 - TBN FTA
343 - Rhema FTA
346 - Iqraa TV FTA
350 - Inspiration TV FTA

Consumer Channels

391 - Shopping Channel 1 Proprietary
392 - Shopping Channel 2 Proprietary
393 - Shopping Channel 3 Proprietary
394 - Shopping Channel 4 Proprietary


News & Commerce:

400 - BBC World News FTA
401 - CNN International FTA
402 - Sky News FTA
403 - eNews Channel FTA
404 - EuroNews FTA
405 - Russia Today FTA
406 - Al Jazeera International FTA
407 - SABC Africa FTA
408 - Parliament Channel FTA
410 - CNBC Africa FTA
411 - Bloomberg FTA
412 - Summit TV (Ignition Channel on Weekends) FTA
415 - Weather Channel FTA

Specialist:

430 - Raitalia FTA
431 - BVN-TV FTA
432 - ERT World FTA
446 - Deutsche Welle FTA
447 - CCTV 4 FTA
448 - CCTV 9 FTA
501 - RTP Internacional FTA
607 - TV5 Monde Afrique FTA

@chuks101

nice work. but, part of what you have to consider is the cost of bringing all these FTA package under one satellite. it's not cheap my brother.

@ butoneday- i found out that the lnb on that 4m dish is fake fuji lnb, the one that can be unscrewed,which means that the fake one has been in market since last year. @ olofofo - waiting for ur outcome by 2morrow. @ tox - zain is on it again, none is working as of 2day.

(ARQUIVA)ABC FEED NEW PARAMETER ON
INTELSAT 902 AT
62E 4162 H/V 7000

@All
Canal2 and STV2 @ NSS7 with 100% signal quality and Scrambled on following frequencies:
10985 Polarity V SR 29972 Scrambled Canal 2
11550 Polarity V SR 29995 No Audio Video STV2

@ololofo
If fuji lnb cost 2800 and stargold 2500 ,santek 3000 while invacom is,6000 naira, that means invacom may give better performance than fuji or santek ,
@pitodenz
what is the signal quality of the fake fuji lnb on the 4m dish.

olofofo:

@chuks101

nice work. but, part of what you have to consider is the cost of bringing all these FTA package under one satellite. it's not cheap my brother.

@olofofo,
I'm sure you meant to say 'george_d' instead of 'chuks101'. But all the same I was expecting
someone to raise the issue of cost.
We all know that DSTV, MYTV, HITV, and all these other paytv services are nothing more than
a concentration of FTA channels sourced from different satellites scartered all over space.
They bring in these channels into thier own bouquet and what you enjoy as a subscriber is
the convienience of having these many channels in a concentrated beam which can be picked
with a small dish 90cm or less.
But the question you should ask yourself is: Is it really worth it paying all this money just to
have someone sort out these FTA stations for you? Can't you do it yourself and keep the
change? Why should I pay N9,000 monthly (N108,000 yearly) for something I can get free with
a little imagination? Talking of cost, which is cheaper, spending a one off amount of less than
N40, 000 to get a motorised system which brings in all these stations for you free (for life) or
spending 108K yearly (and the subscription keeps going up every year) just for convienience?
Your guess is as good as mine.
bit of knowlege and

Nice work George d,
Actually i have that at the back of my mind, i started with pas 7/10 on ku band , later i graduated to c band motorised, right now i have 3 ku band set ups and my motorised c band, like u said free for life, dstv and hitv and mytv are all rip offs i know and i understand perfectly well, i am not doing it for my own consumption , could u believe that in most homes people have almost the three networks and they pay for it, so my research is on how to get one network that can do the job of 3 on a ku band 90 cm dish max, because lots of people here are tenants and they like competition, therefore if the dstv rest of africa works here there is a possibility that they might like the idea, for me i am looking for a way to link to nilesat, recently someone offered me a starsat decoder at the rate of 10k but i declined because i do not have nilesat i hope to nail that bird in future, but as u know i am in the south and i need a big i mean very big dish

olofofo,the new echolink update posted on 26-3-09 from sr doesnt work for my sht only art iand jscs working does that applicable to you ?

@obnelly

where di you download it from? i have heard of issues regarding the ones downloaded from srsupport. try check the file posted on the group.

@george_d

sorry for the error regarding credits for your earlier post, try not all fta channels are still accesible to enthusiasts like us. try watching natgeo, discovery, mtv europe etc on your motorize set up, most people just like the convenience of paying for the package being all in one place. We do it because we like it.

@here's weekend football package
Saturday:
togo vs cameroon, 5pm art 3,
sudan vs mali 6pm, art 1, sudan tv,
england vs slovakia jsc+2, 6:15pm,
germany vs leichestein, jsc 1, 8:45pm,
holland vs scotland, 8:45pm. ad sport 1,dubai sport 2,
montenegro vs italy jsc +3 20:45,
lithuania vs france jsc +1 20:45,
morroco vs gabon arryadia 21:45, jsc +4,
spain vs turkey, jsc +2 10pm,
argentina vs venezuela 11:10pm, jsc1,

sunday,
mozambique v nigeria , 2pm art sport1, tv mozambique, tv zimbo and AIT
ivory coast vs malawi 5pm art 4
ghana vs benin art 3 5pm
egypt vs zambia 6:30 art 2
ecuador vs brazil 10pm, jsc +1, arryadia,

@ George - the secret of ur success in ur nile installation,i believe is that fuji lnb. I think other members should check their fuji lnb.

@ ola, happy birthday my best fta friend. sorry its coming a bit late, i've been on d rooftop since 7am, call ya later.

@chuk101,
I'm sure you will get there soon. Most of us started like you before we migrated to
bigger, better dishes.

Abeg help me contact that person wey wan sell starsat to you. If it is still available,
I'll like to buy it

@pito,
I'm beginning to think so too. I was only too lucky to have bought an original one
because as at when I was buying it, I wasn't too keen on the authenticity.
Now I know better to be more careful.