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Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by Sall(m): 4:37pm On Dec 31, 2015
Washington post can go to hell those Nigeria looks like Washington alas they should tell us a little story about Guantanamo bay in Cuba . Nonsense

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Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by asfrank(m): 4:41pm On Dec 31, 2015
lastmanstandn:
Buhari, Our National Interest and Court Orders
A step below President Buhari's present level of high-handedness only brings us back to the era of impunity that we voted Jonathan out for.
Nigerians are very forgetful of the past. Nigeria, under the watch of the Fmr President, could not successful keep terror suspects in custody because prosecutors failed to prepare a case. We had a system where court orders and injunctions stalled corruption cases and made a mockery of our fight to defeat corruption and insecurity across the country. This time, we have an executive that is willing to stretch its constitutional powers to keep Nigeria safe and recoup stolen fund, yet we're starting to paint the President as a dictator.

Kanu is a threat to our national security. In advanced societies, suspects are detained for issues as trivial as traffic offence to keep them in custody while a stronger case is put together, why must Nigeria be different? Societies with strong intelligence communities engage whatever means is takes to keep terrorists and extremists out of circulation, must ours be different? Indeed, there are global concerns with regards to ethical issues in national security and intelligence activities of nations; developing countries should not be singled out as if we are the only ones involved in such. Indeed, the primary responsibility of government is to ensure its people live neither in fear of terrorism, external aggression nor poverty and other factors that undermine their peace and safety while it also sustains the fundamental rights of its people. However, many advanced nations have passed through periods of national crisis when liberties were exchanged for greater security, the balance between both being restored after such crisis, and Nigeria is at that point right now.

Within the last 10-15 years, advanced nations have defied international charters against enhanced interrogation techniques, illegal rendition, detention without trial and all sort of measures all for the sake of national security. We have not resorted to this yet you're starting to paint us as bad. We have not rendered our terror suspects to Niger, as you did render yours to Egypt for torture, we have not built illegal detention facilities in Chad, as you've done in Cuba, Kanu has not accused our security agents of subjecting him to waterboarding as you've done to many of yours, so what is the fury about? We understand you did what was necessary for the safety of innocent people, just as President Buhari is doing the same. Nnamdi Kanu's illegal entrance into the country with equipment for the purpose of undermining our national security is enough to get us worried, and get a responsible President to act.

On the NIMASA ex-DG and Arms thieves, I doubt if there is any law in Nigeria or anywhere in the world that restrains the authorities from re-arresting a suspect on different charges after he/she has been granted bail on others. Hence, we do not have to blame the President for identifying measures within our laws to use against corrupt public office holders just to keep them from jumping bail. We had a soft-spoken, gentle-looking President whose lame duck attitude cost us $2.1 billion meant for the war on terror and drove us where we are today, but we have moved on. Now we have a stronger, more willing leader in President Buhari and the best we can do is support him to do whatever is right and just to keep us on the path of prosperity and security again.

As Nigerians we must understand that security is a collective task that requires the mutual cooperation of every citizen, and the understanding that our liberties will not be compromised as long as we remain law abiding and do not act in ways that endanger others, as Dasuki Sambo and his partners are alleged to have done to our soldiers and our countrymen up North. We need to understand that a man that literally sneaked into the country using unconventional methods can sneak out using same methods; that we lack the intelligence capability to keep tabs on all suspects, and just like in past cases, corrupt public office holders may escape justice by choosing not to return to Nigeria if they are allowed to pursue whatever medical excuses abroad and extradition is not as easy as it appears. We are protected as law-abiding citizens, and we have in President Buhari what we have always desired, a strong man with great political will to frustrate corrupt public office holders, a step below President Buhari's present level of high-handedness only brings us back to the era of impunity.

@ijigbami
You got the point, d problem is d@ most Nigerians are myopic, they d'nt see beyond their nose. Take the case of Kanu, he came into the country with neither of his two passports, what then would prevent him from leaving in the same manner? If his house is surrounded, people will still complain, I totally agree with the points you have raised. It will take a strong willed president, like Buhari to run nigeria, he is not ready to bow to pressure from any quarter, when the time comes for us to decide then we would, for now, the Show is his. Truly, I can not think of a better President at this point in time for Nigeria than Buhari

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Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by mekaboy(m): 4:41pm On Dec 31, 2015
I am glad the world is watching APC Now.

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Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by adayism1977: 4:42pm On Dec 31, 2015
What do you expect from a stack iliterare, and an unrepentant dictator of a general, who has no respect for the rule of law not to talk of respect for human rights. Nevertheless there must be an end to every administration or regime.

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Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by anticabal1: 4:45pm On Dec 31, 2015
OrlandoOwoh:

Go find out why some people call the late Lee Kuan Yew of Singapore a benevolent dictator.

For argument sake, is your Buhari still a 'born again dictator' or now 'a benevolent dictator'? How benevolent when untouchable criminals surround him.

Kanu is only in jail because he called him a pedophile and a terrorist and the law did not disagree with kanu. Vindictive Buhari should put on his military uniform and suspend the constitution so we know are in a full military regime not this quasi-dictatorship.

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Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by erico2k2(m): 4:45pm On Dec 31, 2015
Tolexander:
Everyone has a right to say what ever pleases one.

I still remember Guantanamo bay, has it been finally closed down by US?

We can't mock about with the USA.look at what they did to North Korea. If we get sanctioned we are doomed.
Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by ohenhen1: 4:46pm On Dec 31, 2015
Typical western press nonsense.

I didn't even bother to read the article, I know there end game.
Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by erico2k2(m): 4:47pm On Dec 31, 2015
asfrank:
You got the point, d problem is d@ most Nigerians are myopic, they d'nt see beyond their nose. Take the case of Kanu, he came into the country with neither of his two passports, what then would prevent him from leaving in the same manner? If his house is surrounded, people will still complain, I totally agree with the points you have raised. It will take a strong willed president, like Buhari to run nigeria, he is not ready to bow to pressure from any quarter, when the time comes for us to decide then we would, for now, the Show is his. Truly, I can not think of a better President at this point in time for Nigeria than Buhari
2 passport?brutish and Nigerian?

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Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by ohenhen1: 4:47pm On Dec 31, 2015
erico2k2:

We can't mock about with the USA.look at what they did to North Korea. If we get sanctioned we are doomed.

Nigeria has the right to re-arrest any suspect when there are new charges to be filed.

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Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by baralatie(m): 4:48pm On Dec 31, 2015
jmaine:



He also swore to protect and uphold the constitution. Have you forgotten about that important aspect.

Nnamdi Kalu with his Biafra illusion went too far, and he was very silly to believe he was invisible. . . . .

If we must punish Kalu for his sin, it mustn't be seen to be arbitrary to the law. The same law whose strength is drawn from the constitution we are invoking to punish Kalu
PMB swore to protect the constitution.
KANU stood to challenge not only the constitution,he threatened the no. 1 person recognised in that constitution (gej and pmb).
According to PMB the COST of KANU been a fugitive jumping is too much for the country to bare!
What can be done!
Alameiseigha jumping bail in london comes mind!

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Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by opwa4us(m): 4:48pm On Dec 31, 2015
The two people in question are enemies of this nation. They are both responsible for the death of several citizens. KANU is just a brave man misleading the illiterate amidst his region. He has two passports, Nigeria and British passport. But he told his followers to tear there passports. Dasuki is responsible for the death of many innocent soldiers. God bless this nation

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Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by Nobody: 4:49pm On Dec 31, 2015
Buhari is messing up our Judiciary system.

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Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by Nobody: 4:49pm On Dec 31, 2015
Sincere9gerian:
Not surprised at all. All the current shenanigans called fight against corruption will lead to nowhere. For instance, since the commencement of the so called fight against corruption, the collection of #50 by police officers on the road has not reduced one bit. If anything, it's getting worse. Buhari is just fighting his political enemies. Nothing has changed.

#Truth
Very valid statement

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Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by cckris: 4:50pm On Dec 31, 2015
It's deja vu 1984.

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Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by dammytosh: 4:50pm On Dec 31, 2015
Tolexander:
Everyone has a right to say what ever pleases one.

I still remember Guantanamo bay, has it been finally closed down by US?


Not yet bro.
Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by Nobody: 4:50pm On Dec 31, 2015
omenka:


Then they said David Cameron has ordered his release since he's a UK citizen otherwise they would go to war with Nigeria- DSS got offended and increased the liquidity of his beans meal.


Hhaaaaaaaaaa! grin

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Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by Nobody: 4:51pm On Dec 31, 2015
jmaine:



And you believe fighting illegality with sheer illegality is right ?

Tell the buffon

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Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by PhockPhockMan: 4:51pm On Dec 31, 2015
OrlandoOwoh:
Gbuo onwe gi.
Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by ERAKAMUS: 4:53pm On Dec 31, 2015
Bubewilson:
Can someone pls define a terrorist.
Bull.ari

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Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by Idrismusty97(m): 4:54pm On Dec 31, 2015
"Nigeria Finally Plays Into The Grand Strategy Of Biafrans" -IPOB after Nnamdi Kanu was detained

3 months later cheesy.

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Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by neocortex: 4:54pm On Dec 31, 2015
Tolexander:
Everyone has a right to say what ever pleases one.

I still remember Guantanamo bay, has it been finally closed down by US?


Stop using straw man argument , Guantanamo bay houses foreign terrorists,
and even if an american citizen is to be detained that way, it is backed by their law.
Just google patriot act to gain more insight.

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Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by macaranta(m): 4:55pm On Dec 31, 2015
It's really a shame that our Judiciary have been rendered null and void.The problem isn't now,but when another leader from another region does a similar Buhari- styled leadership hope everyone will maintain his/her peace.

APC members are all saints BTW.

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Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by anwe: 4:55pm On Dec 31, 2015
omenka:
How many Gitmo inmates has the government of US released on orders from her courts?? As a matter of fact, how many of the inmates have seen the insides of a court room since detention??

Nnamumudi Kalluu will rot in jail like those terrorists in Gitmo and heavens won't fall, just like it didn't in the US.

Gitmo is not in US and it's not protected by US law. Don't worry it will be your turn next when the rights of court and fair hearing are abused. we can as well ask for the military to come back so that the constitution can be suspended and we are ruled by decrees.

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Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by plaetton: 4:56pm On Dec 31, 2015
lastmanstandn:
Buhari, Our National Interest and Court Orders
A step below President Buhari's present level of high-handedness only brings us back to the era of impunity that we voted Jonathan out for.
Nigerians are very forgetful of the past. Nigeria, under the watch of the Fmr President, could not successful keep terror suspects in custody because prosecutors failed to prepare a case. We had a system where court orders and injunctions stalled corruption cases and made a mockery of our fight to defeat corruption and insecurity across the country. This time, we have an executive that is willing to stretch its constitutional powers to keep Nigeria safe and recoup stolen fund, yet we're starting to paint the President as a dictator.

Kanu is a threat to our national security. In advanced societies, suspects are detained for issues as trivial as traffic offence to keep them in custody while a stronger case is put together, why must Nigeria be different? Societies with strong intelligence communities engage whatever means is takes to keep terrorists and extremists out of circulation, must ours be different? Indeed, there are global concerns with regards to ethical issues in national security and intelligence activities of nations; developing countries should not be singled out as if we are the only ones involved in such. Indeed, the primary responsibility of government is to ensure its people live neither in fear of terrorism, external aggression nor poverty and other factors that undermine their peace and safety while it also sustains the fundamental rights of its people. However, many advanced nations have passed through periods of national crisis when liberties were exchanged for greater security, the balance between both being restored after such crisis, and Nigeria is at that point right now.

Within the last 10-15 years, advanced nations have defied international charters against enhanced interrogation techniques, illegal rendition, detention without trial and all sort of measures all for the sake of national security. We have not resorted to this yet you're starting to paint us as bad. We have not rendered our terror suspects to Niger, as you did render yours to Egypt for torture, we have not built illegal detention facilities in Chad, as you've done in Cuba, Kanu has not accused our security agents of subjecting him to waterboarding as you've done to many of yours, so what is the fury about? We understand you did what was necessary for the safety of innocent people, just as President Buhari is doing the same. Nnamdi Kanu's illegal entrance into the country with equipment for the purpose of undermining our national security is enough to get us worried, and get a responsible President to act.

On the NIMASA ex-DG and Arms thieves, I doubt if there is any law in Nigeria or anywhere in the world that restrains the authorities from re-arresting a suspect on different charges after he/she has been granted bail on others. Hence, we do not have to blame the President for identifying measures within our laws to use against corrupt public office holders just to keep them from jumping bail. We had a soft-spoken, gentle-looking President whose lame duck attitude cost us $2.1 billion meant for the war on terror and drove us where we are today, but we have moved on. Now we have a stronger, more willing leader in President Buhari and the best we can do is support him to do whatever is right and just to keep us on the path of prosperity and security again.

As Nigerians we must understand that security is a collective task that requires the mutual cooperation of every citizen, and the understanding that our liberties will not be compromised as long as we remain law abiding and do not act in ways that endanger others, as Dasuki Sambo and his partners are alleged to have done to our soldiers and our countrymen up North. We need to understand that a man that literally sneaked into the country using unconventional methods can sneak out using same methods; that we lack the intelligence capability to keep tabs on all suspects, and just like in past cases, corrupt public office holders may escape justice by choosing not to return to Nigeria if they are allowed to pursue whatever medical excuses abroad and extradition is not as easy as it appears. We are protected as law-abiding citizens, and we have in President Buhari what we have always desired, a strong man with great political will to frustrate corrupt public office holders, a step below President Buhari's present level of high-handedness only brings us back to the era of impunity.

@ijigbami

The most pathetic piece of nonsense I have seen today.

During the last 15 years of Nigerian's democracy, no person was detained for freedom of speech, talkless of treason, despite all the national security challenges that the past administrations endured.

In fact, let me refresh your memory, that it was this same Buhari, yes, this Buhari, that chided GEJ for not looking into the GRIEVANCES of BOKO HARAM. undecided
Have we forgotten soo soon?
Selective amnesia , perhaps

Today, you think we should sacrifice freedom and the rule of law, seperations of powers, just for nebulous security?
Security from a harmless civilian, whose only weapon is his voice and forceful opinion ?

You're either very very ignorant or very very
disingenuous.

" Those who sacrifice freedom for security will not have, and neither do they deserve both ".
--Thomas Jefferson.

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Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by FisifunKododada: 4:56pm On Dec 31, 2015
cool Washington Com post should go and take care of Gitmo before they come and teach us Nigerians what to do.
Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by francisbiz: 4:58pm On Dec 31, 2015
Tolexander:
Everyone has a right to say what ever pleases one.

I still remember Guantanamo bay, has it been finally closed down by US?

Somebody said u raped ur daughter, all u say is dat he raped his housmaid

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Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by FisifunKododada: 4:59pm On Dec 31, 2015
cool So they want us to allow a terrorist and a corrupt politician jump bail? God punish Washington com post

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Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by arresa: 5:00pm On Dec 31, 2015
etebefia:
i am not suprise at buhari's refusal to court orders, however i am suprise at the level of illetracy among some Nigerians who are so happy with this, it might be dusuki and kanu today, who knows whom it will be tomorrow.


As a law abiding Nigerian, I don't fear tomorrow.

Fear of tomorrow bothers only crooks, corrupt and anti Nigerian elements.

Are you a crook?

Are you corrupt?

Are you anti Nigeria or planing to destroy Nigeria?

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Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by omenka(m): 5:00pm On Dec 31, 2015
anwe:


Gitmo is not in US and it's not protected by US law. Don't worry it will be your turn next when the rights of court and fair hearing are abused. we can as well ask for the military to come back so that the constitution can be suspended and we are ruled by decrees.
And who the hell is stopping you from doing that already? undecided

One person springs up a foolish line and the rest of them devour it ravenously.

Gitmo "isn't protected by US laws" yet cases from Gitmo are heard in US courts whenever attain gets the "privilege" to be brought before a court.

This even raises a funny question: under which country's laws does Guam exist then since Cuba has no jurisdiction over it?

These guys are so funny- imagine them trying to justify the existence of Guam just to validate their line of argument.

Absurdities are sure in no short supply out here. cheesy

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Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by emeeco(m): 5:05pm On Dec 31, 2015
omenka:
How many Gitmo inmates has the government of US released on orders from her courts?? As a matter of fact, how many of the inmates have seen the insides of a court room since detention??

Nnamumudi Kalluu will rot in jail like those terrorists in Gitmo and heavens won't fall, just like it didn't in the US.
Can you please name one person in Gitmo that is in custody after a court ordered release. don't comment on what you don't know. The law is the law, if one person can break it everybody else can. Even an armed robber or rapist can have justification, that doesn't make it right or lawful.

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Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by francisbiz: 5:08pm On Dec 31, 2015
Sall:
Washington post can go to hell those Nigeria looks like Washington alas they should tell us a little story about Guantanamo bay in Cuba . Nonsense
Contempt of court! Worst statement ever, by a milenium ruler.

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