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Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by Nobody: 5:59pm On Dec 31, 2015
cckris:
Gitmo is in Cuba, and US Courts have no jurisdiction there.

yeah right!

Even though it was established by the US government undecided with the taxpayers' money
Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by nwakibie3(m): 5:59pm On Dec 31, 2015
Since the judiciary is corrupt and their judgment based on the law cannot be obeyed, I think the PDP governors, PDP senators and house of Rep members that were sacked by the same judiciary that is corrupt should not obey the judgment and retain their seats. Yes naw grin grin grin

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Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by pafpatmo(m): 5:59pm On Dec 31, 2015
Dasuki and Kanu will remain in jail for ever. Carry-on Mr President. We're solidly behind you. These wailing wailer can go on after all the cry of a chicken does not deter the rituals. grin grin grin
Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by DeviIhimself: 5:59pm On Dec 31, 2015
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cabaliciouscabal:




The govt cannot allow those criminalsssss out on bail, cus most of d judges dat granted d bail ar xtremly corrupt in Jonathan govt, Dasuki told Mohammed dat he should quickly get d dollars ready in other to bribe d judges handling kogi election petition claims, so most of those judges ar not working for d good interest of our country, all dey ar after is dia pockets. They will continue to receive disgrace in dia useles.s judgment and granting of meaningless injunction to dia cronies.


Imagine former governor of rivers state peter odili got same injunction not to be probe or tried in law court, after it is glaring dat he is among pple dat av looted d wealth of dis nation.


I support d president to hold on to dem until responsible judges with fear of God will take charge without fear or favour.


As for kanu d albino, he should continue to waste his tym by rejection one judge after d oda, he will go mustafa way, d federal govt is not in a hurry with his case, d next hearing he should ask for his girlfriend to come and sit as d judge.



He should av put all dis consequences together b4 dramatizing all d madness he was saying on his radio dounce biafra, now he is facing d shame, pain, alone.
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so out of three judges on kanu's case none has the fear of God cheesy and kanu has bribe the judge lol

mr man come up with another flimsy excuse for the useless president next time.

time shall tell.

bunch of unrepentant zombies

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Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by Nobody: 5:59pm On Dec 31, 2015
Achuwa1:
Pmb is toeing the part of destruction by allowing fg agencies not to obey court orders & i think his advisers have failed to let him realise tht he is a president in a democratic government,not a president of a military govt.
. Mark my words,,,he will not finish his tenure with the part he is toeing,,do u know why ?...
because the senate will get fed up with his military system of govt,then gang up against him & impeach him or the wrath of God will fall on him..
i foresee him resisting impeachment & tht will lead to unrest,but will later calm down by the time osibanjo takes up the mantle of leadership coz God is watching.


tongue tongue tongue tongue
Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by UrbanMystique: 6:01pm On Dec 31, 2015
Curlieweed:


First, Gitmo isn't technically part of the US. That's the reason the detainees were kept there. It creates the required environment to keep them in legal limbo (or purgatory if you want).

Secondly, none of the Gitmo detainee is a US citizen.

In this case these people are Nigerians held on Nigerian soil but some criminals in power refuse to obey the simple principles of separation of powers and the rule of law. You can't enforce the law by breaking the law. That kind of arbitrary abuse of power is a pure recipe for anarchy .

I'm not in anyway surprised by all this. Anybody could have predicted that the Mumuharri , the Daura President is too daft to understand how an orderly modern society works.

Enjoy your change ! E no concern me.

so nnamdi KANU is now a Nigerian ? cheesy

Some of the Gitmo's inmates are also Americans.. Get your facts right.. There are many american citizens that have joined terror organizations languishing in Guantanamo bay.
Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by Pavarottii(m): 6:01pm On Dec 31, 2015
omenka:
From the beginning, they said Nnamumudi Kalluu has nuclear weapons and would visit the country with one of them soon, killing every living being in it besides Biafrans- we didn't see as much as a fire cracker.

Then they said he cannot be arrested- we was.

Then they dared the State to keep him beyond two days- he's been in a dungeon for over two months.

Then they said Vladamir Putin has ordered his release- he remains in the dungeons!

Then they said a lawmaker in the UK wrote a petition to their parliament for his unconditional release- that was over a month ago, dude's still languishing in the dungeons.

Then they said David Cameron has ordered his release since he's a UK citizen otherwise they would go to war with Nigeria- DSS got offended and increased the liquidity of his beans meal.

Then they protested on the streets- it didn't change anything.

Then they gave an Ultimatum- it has since expired and NOTHING has happened.

Then they said only an Igbo President could calm them down- PDP zoned the presidency to the North!

Then they demanded 8billion bribe to stop their protests- not a penny has been given them and I doubt Baba would give any.

Now they've brought Washington post article- Na today?? Ask them about detainees at Guantanamo Bay.
If I say what is in my mind now, they will ban me. Nairaland of late, doesn't allow freedom of speech! Well all I av to say is that.
"POSTERItY WILL JUDGE US ALL".

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Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by alexlee50: 6:01pm On Dec 31, 2015
lastmanstandn:
Buhari, Our National Interest and Court Orders
A step below President Buhari's present level of high-handedness only brings us back to the era of impunity that we voted Jonathan out for.
Nigerians are very forgetful of the past. Nigeria, under the watch of the Fmr President, could not successful keep terror suspects in custody because prosecutors failed to prepare a case. We had a system where court orders and injunctions stalled corruption cases and made a mockery of our fight to defeat corruption and insecurity across the country. This time, we have an executive that is willing to stretch its constitutional powers to keep Nigeria safe and recoup stolen fund, yet we're starting to paint the President as a dictator.

Kanu is a threat to our national security. In advanced societies, suspects are detained for issues as trivial as traffic offence to keep them in custody while a stronger case is put together, why must Nigeria be different? Societies with strong intelligence communities engage whatever means is takes to keep terrorists and extremists out of circulation, must ours be different? Indeed, there are global concerns with regards to ethical issues in national security and intelligence activities of nations; developing countries should not be singled out as if we are the only ones involved in such. Indeed, the primary responsibility of government is to ensure its people live neither in fear of terrorism, external aggression nor poverty and other factors that undermine their peace and safety while it also sustains the fundamental rights of its people. However, many advanced nations have passed through periods of national crisis when liberties were exchanged for greater security, the balance between both being restored after such crisis, and Nigeria is at that point right now.

Within the last 10-15 years, advanced nations have defied international charters against enhanced interrogation techniques, illegal rendition, detention without trial and all sort of measures all for the sake of national security. We have not resorted to this yet you're starting to paint us as bad. We have not rendered our terror suspects to Niger, as you did render yours to Egypt for torture, we have not built illegal detention facilities in Chad, as you've done in Cuba, Kanu has not accused our security agents of subjecting him to waterboarding as you've done to many of yours, so what is the fury about? We understand you did what was necessary for the safety of innocent people, just as President Buhari is doing the same. Nnamdi Kanu's illegal entrance into the country with equipment for the purpose of undermining our national security is enough to get us worried, and get a responsible President to act.

On the NIMASA ex-DG and Arms thieves, I doubt if there is any law in Nigeria or anywhere in the world that restrains the authorities from re-arresting a suspect on different charges after he/she has been granted bail on others. Hence, we do not have to blame the President for identifying measures within our laws to use against corrupt public office holders just to keep them from jumping bail. We had a soft-spoken, gentle-looking President whose lame duck attitude cost us $2.1 billion meant for the war on terror and drove us where we are today, but we have moved on. Now we have a stronger, more willing leader in President Buhari and the best we can do is support him to do whatever is right and just to keep us on the path of prosperity and security again.

As Nigerians we must understand that security is a collective task that requires the mutual cooperation of every citizen, and the understanding that our liberties will not be compromised as long as we remain law abiding and do not act in ways that endanger others, as Dasuki Sambo and his partners are alleged to have done to our soldiers and our countrymen up North. We need to understand that a man that literally sneaked into the country using unconventional methods can sneak out using same methods; that we lack the intelligence capability to keep tabs on all suspects, and just like in past cases, corrupt public office holders may escape justice by choosing not to return to Nigeria if they are allowed to pursue whatever medical excuses abroad and extradition is not as easy as it appears. We are protected as law-abiding citizens, and we have in President Buhari what we have always desired, a strong man with great political will to frustrate corrupt public office holders, a step below President Buhari's present level of high-handedness only brings us back to the era of impunity.

@ijigbami
your write up is lengthy and would have made a good academic discussion but your argument is not sound. Let me start with the Nnamdi kanu, it is the only the courts that can pronounce kanu guilty of the offence he is being charged with. Two courts have granted him bail and the executive is disobeying the order of the courts, and you think this is right? What happened to the rule of law? What happened to the right of the citizen as guaranteed in the Constitution of one being presumed innocent until he is convicted by the court. I do not want to go into the issue of kanu engaging in terrorist activities as only the courts would determine the guilt or innocence of kanu and this would based on the burden of proof which the prosecution has against him. If the prosecution has a good case against him whether he is granted bail or not would have no effect on the final outcome of the case. However disobedience to courts portends a grave danger to our democracy. As the gains and the independence of the judiciary in the last few would be greatly undermined. This could pose a great danger to our fledging democracy. On the dasuki issue, a number of issues are not within the public domain for us to pass a judgement. But on the dokpesi, the prosecution has no case. It would fail in court. Let's look at the facts in issue. Was dokpesi given a contract, the answer is yes. Did he execute the contract, the answer is yes. If perhaps he didn't execute a case of fraudulent conversion/stealing by conversion, obtaining by false pretenses could have been established against dokpesi. But in this case he executed it. Is it dokpesi 's duty to verify the account which government would use in paying him? The answer to that is no, as he is not a staff of government. Is it dokpesi' s duty to check if the job given to him passes through the procurement process? No, as he is not a staff of government. Those charges are defective. On the overall it is the burden evidence which the prosecution has against the accused that would determine their guilt or innocence. No one can perform magic with the facts of a case. The rule of law should be allowed to prevail

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Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by MXrep: 6:01pm On Dec 31, 2015
nduchucks:


Are you saying that because they were granted Bail the authorities should give up the right to arrest them for other crimes they perpetrated? Who cares if the arrest came 1 hour or 2 after they were releases but didn't get a chance to abscond?
Are u buharis mouth piece?? If that was the situation couldn't he simply explain yesterday??

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Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by Nobody: 6:02pm On Dec 31, 2015
CaaseStudy:
The international searchlights are beaming on Buhari and Nigeria. Separation of powers and the rule of law are being truncated and the judiciary and legislative arms are fast loosing relevance.

All i see in Buhari is a dictator who is yet to get used to democratic ways of doing things... He really needs a complete transfusion of his military blood and DNA to that of a true democrat. Talk of leopards shedding its spots, Is it POSSIBLE? ...
undecided undecided undecided
Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by arresa: 6:03pm On Dec 31, 2015
Bollinger:


There are some crimes you are accused of all over the world where they lock you up and throw away the keys. Terrorism for one. Every country is in agreement on this. And nowhere did a court order say to release a terrorist suspect and the government of America said no. Unlike what is happening in Nigeria.


We borrowed democracy from the West, but the judiciary in the same western countries you love to subscribe to and hold up against your own country that's battered and looted dry by the same judiciary and criminal elements while you suffer on bad roads, while you exist in darkness, while you are saddled with crippled healthcare, while they and their families jet out for ordinary headache, while you and your children are left with sad and pathetic education system don't grant bails to terrorists, they don't get to manipulate the court system to get evade justice while criminals walk around spending and enjoying stolen funds.

Their presidents don't call their treasury department to release billions to anybody or turn their treasury department to ATM or share stolen funds meant for their soldiers fighting terrorists all over the world with friends and cronies.

In Nigeria, looters and criminals walk free because of our corrupt and bankrupt judiciary, but not in America where they impeach presidents for less, where they send governors, senators and reps to jail with ease because they have credible, functioning and incorruptible judiciary, a far cry from what you are saddled with in Nigeria, a million mile long distance from the one you expect us to continue to live with still after 55 years of suffering and lack of progress.

Ibori is in jail in Britain because our corrupt and decayed judiciary refused to do their job. e are talking about a judiciary and court system that let a criminal like Ibori dedicate the terms of his own prosecution from where he is prosecuted to who prosecutes him and who judge his own case all under a president who not only looked the other way, but allowed the common criminal to to evade the Nigerian people and Nigerian justice system.


It's always laughable and pathetic to hear Nigerians pull up America when supporting their own upside down logic and disingenuous concern for rule of law after staying docile, silent for 55 years while the same criminals they are siding with used the same make sure they stay poor, underdeveloped and doomed to fail.


Nigeria is not America and America is not Nigeria.


The fact that you borrowed democracy from America doesn't mean you are or and must function like America.

Get your own dirty house in order first before such comparisons.

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Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by Analysiscorner: 6:03pm On Dec 31, 2015
Weselion:
Just Imagine if the Boko Haram leader is caught and a court orders for his release?

Nnamdi Kalu is a budding terrorist and should be treated like one.

Dasuki diverted funds meant for military artillery, some soldiers were prosecuted for not obeying orders due to absence of weapons and a court is putting him on bail?

Nigeria cannot move forward until citizens stop being hypocrites
So how did you come to the conclusion that Kanu is a budding terrorist? Is it because of his views on Biafra?
For your info, citizens have the right to air their view on the state of the nation. One can hold the view that Nigeria should be disintegrated, and another that we should merge with other Africans to form a bigger nation. So long as such views are not injurious to other people, one is free to hold ones view.
Why do you see it as anathema the discussion of whether Nigeria is going to continue as one nation or not ? Many nations have disintegrated, and even peacefully. Sudan and South Sudan, the former USSR, Kuwait from Iraq, name them. And recently Scotland held a referendum to either become a sovereign state or remain one with the UK. Even Ireland broke away from the UK.
Your type are the ones that hold women captive, that they can't divorce you.

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Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by BrainnewsNg(f): 6:04pm On Dec 31, 2015
lastmanstandn:
Buhari, Our National Interest and Court Orders
A step below President Buhari's present level of high-handedness only brings us back to the era of impunity that we voted Jonathan out for.
Nigerians are very forgetful of the past. Nigeria, under the watch of the Fmr President, could not successful keep terror suspects in custody because prosecutors failed to prepare a case. We had a system where court orders and injunctions stalled corruption cases and made a mockery of our fight to defeat corruption and insecurity across the country. This time, we have an executive that is willing to stretch its constitutional powers to keep Nigeria safe and recoup stolen fund, yet we're starting to paint the President as a dictator.

Kanu is a threat to our national security. In advanced societies, suspects are detained for issues as trivial as traffic offence to keep them in custody while a stronger case is put together, why must Nigeria be different? Societies with strong intelligence communities engage whatever means is takes to keep terrorists and extremists out of circulation, must ours be different? Indeed, there are global concerns with regards to ethical issues in national security and intelligence activities of nations; developing countries should not be singled out as if we are the only ones involved in such. Indeed, the primary responsibility of government is to ensure its people live neither in fear of terrorism, external aggression nor poverty and other factors that undermine their peace and safety while it also sustains the fundamental rights of its people. However, many advanced nations have passed through periods of national crisis when liberties were exchanged for greater security, the balance between both being restored after such crisis, and Nigeria is at that point right now.

Within the last 10-15 years, advanced nations have defied international charters against enhanced interrogation techniques, illegal rendition, detention without trial and all sort of measures all for the sake of national security. We have not resorted to this yet you're starting to paint us as bad. We have not rendered our terror suspects to Niger, as you did render yours to Egypt for torture, we have not built illegal detention facilities in Chad, as you've done in Cuba, Kanu has not accused our security agents of subjecting him to waterboarding as you've done to many of yours, so what is the fury about? We understand you did what was necessary for the safety of innocent people, just as President Buhari is doing the same. Nnamdi Kanu's illegal entrance into the country with equipment for the purpose of undermining our national security is enough to get us worried, and get a responsible President to act.

On the NIMASA ex-DG and Arms thieves, I doubt if there is any law in Nigeria or anywhere in the world that restrains the authorities from re-arresting a suspect on different charges after he/she has been granted bail on others. Hence, we do not have to blame the President for identifying measures within our laws to use against corrupt public office holders just to keep them from jumping bail. We had a soft-spoken, gentle-looking President whose lame duck attitude cost us $2.1 billion meant for the war on terror and drove us where we are today, but we have moved on. Now we have a stronger, more willing leader in President Buhari and the best we can do is support him to do whatever is right and just to keep us on the path of prosperity and security again.

As Nigerians we must understand that security is a collective task that requires the mutual cooperation of every citizen, and the understanding that our liberties will not be compromised as long as we remain law abiding and do not act in ways that endanger others, as Dasuki Sambo and his partners are alleged to have done to our soldiers and our countrymen up North. We need to understand that a man that literally sneaked into the country using unconventional methods can sneak out using same methods; that we lack the intelligence capability to keep tabs on all suspects, and just like in past cases, corrupt public office holders may escape justice by choosing not to return to Nigeria if they are allowed to pursue whatever medical excuses abroad and extradition is not as easy as it appears. We are protected as law-abiding citizens, and we have in President Buhari what we have always desired, a strong man with great political will to frustrate corrupt public office holders, a step below President Buhari's present level of high-handedness only brings us back to the era of impunity.

@ijigbami


Thank You
Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by fortune1968: 6:04pm On Dec 31, 2015
EasternLion:
This is the man Obama right hand man campaigned for, he promised you he was a changed personality, and we here told you it is a lie that our own leopard never changes its spots, you said na lie say na Change, say na American change una carry come.

Now we are left with an unrepentant old despotic dictator, he finds it sweet to carry out vindictive agendas using the secret service.


I weep cry cry cry cry cry.


Iron hand does not mold a good country, rule of law, justice, equity and fairness does.
leave am .we like it like this .we adore our sai baba . the disgruntled elements should heed d call of oba of lagos....lagooooonn !
Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by bettercreature(m): 6:04pm On Dec 31, 2015
excellence44:
WHY WOULD HE OBEY COURT ORDER WHEN HE SAID JUDGES ARE CORRUPT?

" Dasuki is accused, among other things, of diverting $2.2 billion
meant to buy arms to fight the Boko Haram Islamic uprising.
Three courts have ordered his release on bail."


2019 is just by the corner.
We the intelligent people of south-west will give him another mandate comes 2019
Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by Nobody: 6:04pm On Dec 31, 2015
anticabal1:


I haven't seen a developed country that was moulded by iron fists.

shocked shocked shocked

Consult Google please

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Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by neocortex: 6:07pm On Dec 31, 2015
McSquishi:
As an American, I know I am not in a position to look down upon corrupt government practices. As others have pointed out our record re: Guantanamo & rendition alone is enough to give pause before judging.

I don't know enough about Buhari to give a full opinion, but I'm quite interested. Seeing the Post write about it interests me even more and makes me question the narrative bc I know many potentially great African leaders are often derailed in Western press. It seems as soon as something good may come for an African nation whom we've had our hands in the pockets of, we find a way to cast the leader/party/movement in a negative light (amongst other hands on tactics).

I would say though, that we should all be careful when we find ourselves willing to trade freedoms for security. Just bc the West does it doesn't make it right.

Your comment reeks with utter selfishness, why will you term indefinite detention and flouting
of court orders a good thing.

African have a history of leaders who transform from a self-acclaim "saviour" to despots(Idi Amin and Mugabe comes
to mind), it is the duty of the informed citizens to oppose such transitions.

How happy will you be if you or a relation is indefinitely detained by a government who believes it
has the moral right to do so even though the court says otherwise.

Note: I assume you are an american citizen who believes in democracy and human right, if not kindly
ignore my comment.

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Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by ayindeamos: 6:08pm On Dec 31, 2015
Let us call a spade a spade. It is wrong to disobey court orders under any guise. Law is law,if u are not pleased with any law as president u have to work with the national assembly to change it or work with it. No excuse and that is why any normal police officer will even allow 2 deadly robbers to go if an innocent person is used as shield. Put all the stollen money together any deep thinker will know that Nigeria future is bigger and richer. Disdobeying court order is anarcy that can destoy any nation.

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Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by Analysiscorner: 6:08pm On Dec 31, 2015
arresa:



We borrowed democracy from the West, but the judiciary in the same western countries you love to subscribe to and hold up against your own country that's battered and looted dry by the same judiciary and criminal elements while you suffer on bad roads, while you exist in darkness, while you are saddled with crippled healthcare, while they and their families jet out for ordinary headache, while you and your children are left with sad and pathetic education system don't grant bails to terrorists, they don't get to manipulate the court system to get evade justice while criminals walk around spending and enjoying stolen funds.

Their presidents don't call their treasury department to release billions to anybody or turn their treasury department to ATM or share stolen funds meant for their soldiers fighting terrorists all over the world with friends and cronies.

In Nigeria, looters and criminals walk free because of our corrupt and bankrupt judiciary, but not in America where they impeach presidents for less, where they send governors, senators and reps to jail with ease because they have credible, functioning and incorruptible judiciary, a far cry from what you are saddled with in Nigeria, a million mile long distance from the one you expect us to continue to live with still after 55 years of suffering and lack of progress.

Ibori is in jail in Britain because our corrupt and decayed judiciary refused to do their job. e are talking about a judiciary and court system that let a criminal like Ibori dedicate the terms of his own prosecution from where he is prosecuted to who prosecutes him and who judge his own case all under a president who not only looked the other way, but allowed the common criminal to to evade the Nigerian people and Nigerian justice system.


It's always laughable and pathetic to hear Nigerians pull up America when supporting their own upside down logic and disingenuous concern for rule of law after staying docile, silent for 55 years while the same criminals they are siding with used the same make sure they stay poor, underdeveloped and doomed to fail.


Nigeria is not America and America is not Nigeria.


The fact that you borrowed democracy from America doesn't mean you are or and must function like America.

Get your own dirty house in order first before such comparisons.




All your writeup would've been suitable only if Buhari came to power as a dictator. So long as it is a democracy, he must allow the judiciary interpret the law.

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Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by porigho: 6:08pm On Dec 31, 2015
Sincere9gerian:
Not surprised at all. All the current shenanigans called fight against corruption will lead to nowhere. For instance, since the commencement of the so called fight against corruption, the collection of #50 by police officers on the road has not reduced one bit. If anything, it's getting worse. Buhari is just fighting his political enemies. Nothing has changed.
Olopa wil continue to collect their bribe.how much do they pay. Them?
#Truth

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Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by Nobody: 6:09pm On Dec 31, 2015
Pavarottii:

If I say what is in my mind now, they will ban me. Nairaland of late, doesn't allow freedom of speech! Well all I av to say is that.
"POSTERItY WILL JUDGE US ALL".

bla bla bla
Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by Nobody: 6:11pm On Dec 31, 2015
bettercreature:
We the intelligent people of south-west will give him another mandate comes 2019

Talk for yourself not we,.. grin grin

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Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by nduchucks: 6:13pm On Dec 31, 2015
MXrep:

Are u buharis mouth piece?? If that was the situation couldn't he simply explain yesterday??

Why should he explain what has been reported in all newspapers but you all chose not to read like educated folks, but instead allow your prejudices becloud your better judgements?

Every single one of those acccused was released as ordered by the courts without exception. None of you folks have the right, and should not have the audacity, to tell the authorities when to arrest anybody.

Recall that the NIMASA DG was released on bail but was rearrested outside court premises in public view, during which he commited a new crime of resisting arrest. People like you will come to nairaland in a couple of months and accuse the authorities of not releasing the DG as ordered by the courts. nansense embarassed

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Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by tete7000(m): 6:14pm On Dec 31, 2015
Buhari has an Amaechi who shut down courts in his state for about two years even though he claimed non of his ministers are corrupt as if Amaechi illegal shutting down of court is not corruption. Why are we then surprised he won't obey court orders? Birds of the same feathers flock together. Like Amaechi, like Buhari.

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Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by ibnakeem: 6:14pm On Dec 31, 2015
plaetton:


The most pathetic piece of nonsense I have seen today.

During the last 15 years of Nigerian's democracy, no person was detained for freedom of speech, talkless of treason, despite all the national security challenges that the past administrations endured.

In fact, let me refresh your memory, that it was this same Buhari, yes, this Buhari, that chided GEJ for not looking into the GRIEVANCES of BOKO HARAM. undecided
Have we forgotten soo soon?
Selective amnesia , perhaps

Today, you think we should sacrifice freedom for nebulous security?
Security from a harmless civilian, whose only weapon is his voice and forceful opinion ?

You're either very very ignorant or very very disingenuous.
Pls sir, can you tell us what the offenses of Uwazuruke and Asari Dokubo were when they were both detained by the Obasanjo led government. It happened within the last 16 years of Democracy. Or has Charles Okah been freed for the crime of his brother Henry Okah?
Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by Nobody: 6:15pm On Dec 31, 2015
ruffDiamond:
wasted generation of b-EAST curse be the day yr entire lineage born and curse be the day they die !









b-EAST OF ÑO NATION_uzodimma Ewu-ala

Bast~ard, a wasted sperm from monkey grin grin grin, do you know ur parents talk less of ur lineage grin grin grin
Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by lyterydim(m): 6:15pm On Dec 31, 2015
lastmanstandn:
Buhari, Our National Interest and Court Orders
A step below President Buhari's present level of high-handedness only brings us back to the era of impunity that we voted Jonathan out for.
Nigerians are very forgetful of the past. Nigeria, under the watch of the Fmr President, could not successful keep terror suspects in custody because prosecutors failed to prepare a case. We had a system where court orders and injunctions stalled corruption cases and made a mockery of our fight to defeat corruption and insecurity across the country. This time, we have an executive that is willing to stretch its constitutional powers to keep Nigeria safe and recoup stolen fund, yet we're starting to paint the President as a dictator.

Kanu is a threat to our national security. In advanced societies, suspects are detained for issues as trivial as traffic offence to keep them in custody while a stronger case is put together, why must Nigeria be different? Societies with strong intelligence communities engage whatever means is takes to keep terrorists and extremists out of circulation, must ours be different? Indeed, there are global concerns with regards to ethical issues in national security and intelligence activities of nations; developing countries should not be singled out as if we are the only ones involved in such. Indeed, the primary responsibility of government is to ensure its people live neither in fear of terrorism, external aggression nor poverty and other factors that undermine their peace and safety while it also sustains the fundamental rights of its people. However, many advanced nations have passed through periods of national crisis when liberties were exchanged for greater security, the balance between both being restored after such crisis, and Nigeria is at that point right now.

Within the last 10-15 years, advanced nations have defied international charters against enhanced interrogation techniques, illegal rendition, detention without trial and all sort of measures all for the sake of national security. We have not resorted to this yet you're starting to paint us as bad. We have not rendered our terror suspects to Niger, as you did render yours to Egypt for torture, we have not built illegal detention facilities in Chad, as you've done in Cuba, Kanu has not accused our security agents of subjecting him to waterboarding as you've done to many of yours, so what is the fury about? We understand you did what was necessary for the safety of innocent people, just as President Buhari is doing the same. Nnamdi Kanu's illegal entrance into the country with equipment for the purpose of undermining our national security is enough to get us worried, and get a responsible President to act.

On the NIMASA ex-DG and Arms thieves, I doubt if there is any law in Nigeria or anywhere in the world that restrains the authorities from re-arresting a suspect on different charges after he/she has been granted bail on others. Hence, we do not have to blame the President for identifying measures within our laws to use against corrupt public office holders just to keep them from jumping bail. We had a soft-spoken, gentle-looking President whose lame duck attitude cost us $2.1 billion meant for the war on terror and drove us where we are today, but we have moved on. Now we have a stronger, more willing leader in President Buhari and the best we can do is support him to do whatever is right and just to keep us on the path of prosperity and security again.

As Nigerians we must understand that security is a collective task that requires the mutual cooperation of every citizen, and the understanding that our liberties will not be compromised as long as we remain law abiding and do not act in ways that endanger others, as Dasuki Sambo and his partners are alleged to have done to our soldiers and our countrymen up North. We need to understand that a man that literally sneaked into the country using unconventional methods can sneak out using same methods; that we lack the intelligence capability to keep tabs on all suspects, and just like in past cases, corrupt public office holders may escape justice by choosing not to return to Nigeria if they are allowed to pursue whatever medical excuses abroad and extradition is not as easy as it appears. We are protected as law-abiding citizens, and we have in President Buhari what we have always desired, a strong man with great political will to frustrate corrupt public office holders, a step below President Buhari's present level of high-handedness only brings us back to the era of impunity.

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y my brother I love your sense of reasoning and rationality,nigerians are bunch of confused individual claiming intellectually guru in politics and social well being,infact personal analysis I define nigeria as a group of individuals who never appreciate or attach reasoning,am an igbo guy from abia am not a biafran am a nigerian,kanu and other accomplish who is chilling in detection should be there for forther investigations,and that will also melt down the mora and zeal for other upcoming national usant.tnx onece again for your sincere elucidation on nigerians psychological problem, infact nigerians need an urgent immunization of thought....from genesis
Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by Analysiscorner: 6:15pm On Dec 31, 2015
arresa:



We borrowed democracy from the West, but the judiciary in the same western countries you love to subscribe to and hold up against your own country that's battered and looted dry by the same judiciary and criminal elements while you suffer on bad roads, while you exist in darkness, while you are saddled with crippled healthcare, while they and their families jet out for ordinary headache, while you and your children are left with sad and pathetic education system don't grant bails to terrorists, they don't get to manipulate the court system to get evade justice while criminals walk around spending and enjoying stolen funds.

Their presidents don't call their treasury department to release billions to anybody or turn their treasury department to ATM or share stolen funds meant for their soldiers fighting terrorists all over the world with friends and cronies.

In Nigeria, looters and criminals walk free because of our corrupt and bankrupt judiciary, but not in America where they impeach presidents for less, where they send governors, senators and reps to jail with ease because they have credible, functioning and incorruptible judiciary, a far cry from what you are saddled with in Nigeria, a million mile long distance from the one you expect us to continue to live with still after 55 years of suffering and lack of progress.

Ibori is in jail in Britain because our corrupt and decayed judiciary refused to do their job. e are talking about a judiciary and court system that let a criminal like Ibori dedicate the terms of his own prosecution from where he is prosecuted to who prosecutes him and who judge his own case all under a president who not only looked the other way, but allowed the common criminal to to evade the Nigerian people and Nigerian justice system.


It's always laughable and pathetic to hear Nigerians pull up America when supporting their own upside down logic and disingenuous concern for rule of law after staying docile, silent for 55 years while the same criminals they are siding with used the same make sure they stay poor, underdeveloped and doomed to fail.


Nigeria is not America and America is not Nigeria.


The fact that you borrowed democracy from America doesn't mean you are or and must function like America.

Get your own dirty house in order first before such comparisons.




It is very easy to say what you think because you are not the one in detention. Consider the various military massacres - Odi, Benue, Shiite in the north. So long as it doesn't affect you directly, you will feel less concerned. But the day that it will happen in your community, you will be wailing 'genocide! !! Genocide '.

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Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by Fawie(m): 6:16pm On Dec 31, 2015
DC should shut the be heck up.. we need to develop in nigeria. without closing dasuki gate we cant develop.. get that into ya skull
Re: Nigeria Won’t Release 2 Detainees Despite Court Orders. Washington Post. by tete7000(m): 6:17pm On Dec 31, 2015
ibnakeem:

Pls sir, can you tell us what the offenses of Uwazuruke and Asari Dokubo were when they were both detained by the Obasanjo led government. It happened within the last 16 years of Democracy. Or has Charles Okah been freed for the crime of his brother Henry Okah?

Even if you assertions are correct, is it right that the country continues on the path of impunity? Where is the change preached by APC during campaign?

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