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Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by tkb417(m): 3:54pm On Aug 24, 2009
What has rooney done single-handedly for Manure?
Nothing!
For the records,RVP has an FA cup medal!
Both have won NOTHING for their country
Just my opinion though, RVP stands a better chance at the int'l level!
who typed this?
FA cup medal? shocked

Krayola
Name                   Age                  Goals scored                Appearances                              Ratio
 Rooney                    23                     118                              319                                            0.36
 Torres                      25                     141                              327                                            0.43
 Drogba                     31                     167                              396                                            0.42

Now, Rooney (23), who has played more as a supporting striker and even sometimes on the flanks has 118 goals while a 'Torres' who plays all his life as a point man has 141 goals (never mind hes 2 years older).

How does this go in tandem with OMO IBOs "Rooney can never be a proven goal scorer" baloney?

Dont even talk about Drogba who is 8 years older than Rooney
we dont wanna talk about him

This year 2009, none of them has scored the number of goals Rooney has scored and we all know the reason
The dude has been shifted to a central striking position and hence the new goal scoring form

I repeat, OMO IBO didnt know what he was saying
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by Emperoh(m): 3:55pm On Aug 24, 2009
OMO IBO:

hahahahahahahahahahahahahha
dude, are you serious?
when i talk of a striker being good at defending i'm not referring to rugby style tackle which happens to be Rooney's specialty.

No we are not talking of Rugby tackles. . . in any case, most of Rooney's cards came from petulance other mistimes or missed tackles.
we are talking of timely interceptions. . . .neat and intelligence defence cover and also great defensive positioning.
Drogba is a poor man in these areas. . . football no be only gragra and chest trapping!! grin tongue
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by Sauron1: 4:00pm On Aug 24, 2009
@ tkb417,

Stop arguing. . . . . .Omo Ibo has no intelligence to be comparing Drogba to Rooney.
In 2007/8, Rooney completed his goal run against all the big clubs in the Premiership.

Till this day, Drogba is yet to score a league goal against Man Utd.
They are putting it down to goals scored alone. . . . .Since when? Who doesn't know the effect of goal assists in modern football?

Rooney is the better player. . . . .Only an idiot will fail to see this.
He is better than Didier and Nando as an all round footballer. Torres said so recently.
Torres told Benitez Liverpool need a Rooney to help them win titles.
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by Nobody: 4:01pm On Aug 24, 2009
Emperoh:

No we are not talking of Rugby tackles. . . in any case, most of Rooney's cards came from petulance other mistimes or missed tackles.
we are talking of timely interceptions. . . .neat and intelligence defence cover and also great defensive positioning.
Drogba is a poor man in these areas. . . football no be only gragra and chest trapping!! grin tongue

RONTFLMAO
I can't believe we are having this arguement.

FYI, Rooney does not do missed tackles. Rooney intentionally goes after any part of your body his legs can get to.
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by tkb417(m): 4:05pm On Aug 24, 2009
~Sauron~:

@ tkb417,

Stop arguing. . . . . .Omo Ibo has no intelligence to be comparing Drogba to Rooney.
In 2007/8, Rooney completed his goal run against all the big clubs in the Premiership.

Till this day, Drogba is yet to score a league goal against Man Utd.
They are putting it down to goals scored alone. . . . .Since when? Who doesn't know the effect of goal assists in modern football?

Rooney is the better player. . . . .Only an idiot will fail to see this.
He is better than Didier and Nando as an all round footballer. Torres said so recently.
my own point is if Rooney has been deployed as a central striker all his life, then we wouldnt be having this argument

Torres ko, Flamini ni

i didnt get what HNIC was saying about RVP
they wanna add that one too the list of proven goal scorers?

haha
tht paralympian? grin
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by Krayola2(m): 4:07pm On Aug 24, 2009
~Sauron~:

They are putting it down to goals scored alone. . . . .Since when? Who doesn't know the effect of goal assists in modern football?

This would make Lionel Messi and thierry Henry the current best strikers in the world. Better that Eto'o, Ibra, Torres, Villa . . . name it.

Shifting the goalpost could have absurd implications.
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by Sauron1: 4:08pm On Aug 24, 2009
Krayola2:

This would make Lionel Messi and thierry Henry the current best strikers in the world. Better that Eto'o, Ibra, Torres, Villa . . . name it.
Shifting the goalpost could have absurd implications.

Yes. . . . .they are if we ignore the fact that Villa plays amongst chumps in Valencia. Don't even mention Ibra here. Berba is better than Ibra.
Just like Cristiano Ronaldo is a better striker than Fernando Torres.
He consistently outscored Torres in 2 league seasons in the Premiership.

tkb417:

my own point is if Rooney has been deployed as a central striker all his life, then we wouldnt be having this argument

Exactly ma point. . . . . .Rooney's weakness is his selfless attitude.
He will play anywhere he's deployed without complaining. . . . .For him, as long as the team wins, he is happy.
If he is 30% as selfish as Ronaldo, this argument wouldn't have come up.

Wazza the animal. . . . . . .He is the heartbeat of Man Utd.
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by Nobody: 4:09pm On Aug 24, 2009
That is because most people on this sports section including you are idiots.
It took Ibime(your fellow Chelskite) to persuade you Nani is better than Joe Cole.

You're the bigger idiot.
I'm not and will never think Nani is better than J.Cole.

You're spitting trash.
Drog has not scored against United.
So bloody what?

All i know is Drog has scored more for Chelsea.
This is a man considered 'old'.
It should be a shame on Rooney being second best to an oldie.  cheesy
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by Sauron1: 4:12pm On Aug 24, 2009
BlueDiva:

You're the bigger idiot.
I'm not and will never think Nani is better than J.Cole.

You are the lamer here.
The excessive semen you lap up every night has clogged up your brain cells.
Joe Cole compared to Nani? Hahahahaha What a joke!!!!


You're spitting trash.
Drog has not scored against United.
So bloody what?

It means Vidic has an indian sign on him.
Vidic has consistently raped Drogba since the Serb joined Man Utd. . . . .It's a FACT!!!


All i know is Drog has scored more for Chelsea.
This is a man considered 'old'.
It should be a shame on Rooney being second best to an oldie.  cheesy

Rooney has scored more than Drogba. . . . . . .Rooney has 101, Drogba has 97.
He wore a Chelsea shirt before Rooney wore a shirt for Man Utd.
Drogba is a point man. . . . Rooney has played behind Saha, Ruud, Larsson and Tevez in his years at Man Utd.
Lil wonder Drogba and Rooney are both tied on 3 goals each now that Rooney is the arrow-head of the United attack.
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by chic2pimp(m): 4:14pm On Aug 24, 2009
tkb417:

Krayola
Name                   Age                  Goals scored                Appearances                              Ratio
 Rooney                    23                     118                              319                                            0.36
 Torres                      25                     141                              327                                            0.43
 Drogba                     31                     167                              396                                            0.42

Now, Rooney (23), who has played more as a supporting striker and even sometimes on the flanks has 118 goals while a 'Torres' who plays all his life as a point man has 141 goals (never mind hes 2 years older).
torres is a year older not 2. 1984 AND 1985 are their dates of birth. Anywayz sha make una continue with ur arguements.
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by Nobody: 4:15pm On Aug 24, 2009
You are the lamer here.
The excessive semen you lap up every night has clogged up your brain cells.

Thats what brings out the curves.  wink

Rooney has scored more than Drogba. . . . . . .Rooney has 101, Drogba has 97.
He wore a Chelsea shirt before Rooney wore a shirt for Man Utd.

Calculate the goal ratio my friend.
BTW Drog has spent more time on the bench than Rooney.
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by Sauron1: 4:19pm On Aug 24, 2009
BlueDiva:

Thats what brings out the curves.  wink

I don't dispute the curves but you are reacting negatively to semen. grin
See a doctor.


Calculate the goal ratio my friend.

No league calculates goal ratio to determine the highest goal scorer.
Goal ratio ma ass. . . . .If it's about goal ratio. . . . .Ronaldo shoulda won the highest goal scorer last season, not Anelka.


BTW Drog has spent more time on the bench than Rooney.

That shows how much of a liability Drogba is to Chelsea.
Rooney has crept into the 100 goals club. . . .Drogba hasn't.
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by Krayola2(m): 4:21pm On Aug 24, 2009
~Sauron~:

Rooney has scored more than Drogba. . . . . . .Rooney has 101, Drogba has 97.

Rooney has scored 84 goals for Utd. drogba has scored 98 for Chelsea.   If I may ask were do u get your numbers from? they never seem to check out 
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by tkb417(m): 4:23pm On Aug 24, 2009
Rooney has scored 84 goals for Utd. drogba has scored 98 for Chelsea. If I may ask were do u get your numbers from? they never seem to check out

haha
where do u get urs from?
hes scored 101 for Manchester United

i dont know what ure talking about
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by Sauron1: 4:23pm On Aug 24, 2009
Krayola2:

Rooney has scored 84 goals for Utd. drogba has scored 98 for Chelsea.   If I may ask were do u get your numbers from? they never seem to check out  ???

Don't display your ignorance on a public forum!!!
So you were not alive when Rooney scored his 100th/101st goal for Man Utd against Wigan on saturday?
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by Nobody: 4:23pm On Aug 24, 2009
Rooney has scored 84 goals for Utd. drogba has scored 98 for Chelsea.   If I may ask were do u get your numbers from? they never seem to check out  


Wrong.
Rooney has 101, Drog has 98 (including yesterday)
The thing is we have to calculate the ratio of apps to goals.
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by HNIC(m): 4:27pm On Aug 24, 2009
@Omo Ibo,BD et al
It's pointlessa rguing with the mancs
They just bring out stats and argue to suit their purpose.
We were once told here that Berbatov was rubbish(b4 Fergie forked 30m to bring him)
It was a debate btw Klass and Berba
Apache was the best thing since God created the earth.
Manucho. 'the african Pele' was better than all Arsenal strikers
Nani will be better than Ronaldo.
Now Shrek is better than Torres+Drogba.
When it's Shrek involved, dont look at the goals scored. look at the assists.
When it's Ronaldo, he scored 42 goals in a season as a midfielder
No one will ever do it till JESUS comes back.
Forget it men.It's a waste of time arguing
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by Nobody: 4:27pm On Aug 24, 2009
That shows how much of a liability Drogba is to Chelsea.
Rooney has crept into the100 goals club. . . .Drogba hasn't.


Drog's being on the bench is cos of:

1. Injuries
2. Mourinho's experiment with Crespo
3. JM disciplinary measures against Drog
4. Scolari's beef with Drog
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by tkb417(m): 4:29pm On Aug 24, 2009
~Sauron~:

So you were not alive when Rooney scored his 100th/101st goal for Man Utd against Wigan on saturday?
so now hw do we argue with someone who removed  17 goals from Rooneys total tally grin grin

Krayola
we got u there grin

HNIC:

@Omo Ibo,BD et al
It's pointlessa rguing with the mancs
They just bring out stats and argue to suit their purpose.
We were once told here that Berbatov was rubbish(b4 Fergie forked 30m to bring him)
It was a debate btw Klass and Berba
Apache was the best thing since God created the earth.
Manucho. 'the african Pele' was better than all Arsenal strikers
Nani will be better than Ronaldo.
Now Shrek is better than Torres+Drogba.
When it's Shrek involved, dont look at the goals scored. look at the assists.
When it's Ronaldo, he scored 42 goals in a season as a midfielder
No one will ever do it till JESUS comes back.
Forget it men.It's a waste of time arguing
oh yeah, ure right
u dont argue with a champion

Pool and Chelsea people can still talk
who is ur best striker?
RVP?
dude is a dud when it comes to goal scoring
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by Krayola2(m): 4:30pm On Aug 24, 2009
@tkb 17
haha. . actually that post was supposed to read "94" for rooney.

Those numbers only include competitive games.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/players/stats?id=21046&cc=5901

add em up urselves.  I don't get my stats off tv commentators. i add them up myself. wink
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by tkb417(m): 4:35pm On Aug 24, 2009
Krayola
competitive or not, Rooney has 101 goals grin
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by Krayola2(m): 4:36pm On Aug 24, 2009
tkb417:

Krayola
competitive or not, Rooney has 101 goals grin



maybe if u add a friendly u played against some team in hong kong. . . and some team in Naija
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by chic2pimp(m): 4:38pm On Aug 24, 2009
U peeps would not win an arguement with any man united fan boy. In their opinion every man united player is the world's best in their chosen position. According to them Van nistelrooy is  better than henry,keane is better than viera,evra is better than cole,ronaldo is better than messi e.t.c
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by tkb417(m): 4:40pm On Aug 24, 2009
Krayola2:

maybe if u add a friendly u played against some team in hong kong. . . and some team in Naija
na by force? he has 101
see me see wahala ooo grin

chic2pimp:

U peeps would not win an arguement with any man united fan boy. In their opinion every man united player is the world's best in their chosen position. According to them Van nistelrooy is better than henry,keane is better than viera,evra is better than cole,ronaldo is better than messi e.t.c
you want to start another round?
lemme pick the easiest

. . . .
of course Roy keane was better than Veira
who d fck is Viera? grin

lets start another round grin
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by Krayola2(m): 4:41pm On Aug 24, 2009
tkb417:

na by force? he has 101
see me see wahala ooo grin


haha. oya i don hear
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by chic2pimp(m): 4:44pm On Aug 24, 2009
tkb417:

you want to start another round?
lemme pick the easiest

. . . .
of course Roy keane was better than Veira
who d fck is Viera? grin

lets start another round grin
oh really? Roy keane was not a footballer period. He was a fully fledged thug.
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by Sauron1: 4:47pm On Aug 24, 2009
Krayola2:

@tkb 17
haha. . actually that post was supposed to read "94" for rooney.

Those numbers only include competitive games.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/players/stats?id=21046&cc=5901

add em up urselves.  I don't get my stats off tv commentators. i add them up myself.  wink

Soccernet is a useless website. . . . .
Here on Nairaland, i have undressed them times without number with their useless statistics.
The link you posted did not factor so many competititve competitions Rooney played. . . .On top of my head, the club world cup in Japan last season was exempted.

chic2pimp:

U peeps would not win an arguement with any man united fan boy. In their opinion every man united player is the world's best in their chosen position. According to them Van nistelrooy is  better than henry,keane is better than viera,evra is better than cole,ronaldo is better than messi e.t.c

Van Nistelrooy vs Henry? Henry is the better footballer, Ruud is the better striker.
Keane vs Vieira? Keane shits on Vieira every day of the week. Vieira also acknowledged this in his book.
Evra vs Cole? Evra kills Ashley Cole offensively and defensively.
Ronaldo vs Messi? Ronaldo is the better all round player. He has more in his ammo.
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by HNIC(m): 4:56pm On Aug 24, 2009
tkb417:


Pool and Chelsea people can still talk
who is your best striker?
RVP?
dude is a dud when it comes to goal scoring
Yet, last season
he outscored
*Shrek*-Your best player in the world
*Berbash*t-30 million pounds waste pipe
and
*Apache*-Your best footballer ever from s-america, better then maradona(until he left for citeh grin)
Only CR7 outscored RVP.
Never mind
For the purpose of this arguement
Goals dont matter!
****HISS*****
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by chic2pimp(m): 5:01pm On Aug 24, 2009
~Sauron~:

Van Nistelrooy vs Henry? Henry is the better footballer, Ruud is the better striker.
Keane vs Vieira? Keane shits on Vieira every day of the week. Vieira also acknowledged this in his book.
Evra vs Cole? Evra kills Ashley Cole offensively and defensively.
Ronaldo vs Messi? Ronaldo is the better all round player. He has more in his ammo.
Ruud for were? Make I hia word jare. Henry is by a long long shot both the better footballer and the better striker. Keane was a basically a thug who had no football brains. Viera shits on him everyday of the week. Evra can not defend to save his life. All he does is bomb forward like a mad man. Cole easily wins that won. Messi shits on ronaldo everyday of the week. The three times barca has played man united,messi always outpeforms him both home and away.
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by Sauron1: 5:04pm On Aug 24, 2009
HNIC:

Yet, last season
he outscored
*Shrek*-Your best player in the world

They scored the same number of goals in the season. . . . .Rooney scored more league goals though. grin grin grin


*Berbash*t-30 million pounds waste pipe
and

Why stop at last season. . . . .Berba is in a new team. . . .RVP has been at Arsenal since 2004/5.
Berba has scored 15 league goals in the PREM. . . . .something RVP is yet to achieve in his entire career. grin grin grin grin


*Apache*-Your best footballer ever from s-america, better then maradona(until he left for citeh grin)

In the last 2 seasons, Tevez has outscored RVP. . . . .


Only CR7 outscored RVP.

CR7 is better than any player that has ever played for Arsenal.
No need bringing his case here.


Never mind
For the purpose of this arguement
Goals dont matter!
****HISS*****

In the case of RVP. . . . . .goals matter.
How can a striker of RVP's quality yet to score 12 league goals in his entire career?
He is the number one taker of penalties/freekicks for Arsenal and yet he cannot score 12 league goals? shocked shocked shocked shocked
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by chic2pimp(m): 5:06pm On Aug 24, 2009
The next crazy thing we would hear from the scummies is that van der sar is better than buffon grin grin grin
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by chic2pimp(m): 5:12pm On Aug 24, 2009
~Sauron~:

CR7 is better than any player that has ever played for Arsenal.[/b]No need bringing his case here.
[b]does henry ring a bell?

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