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Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by Vicjustice: 5:51pm On May 27, 2007
funkybaby, i think you can find help in this link:
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-55959.0.html
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by Vicjustice: 5:52pm On May 27, 2007
funkybaby and others, i think you can find help in this link:
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-55959.0.html
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by bigbumper(f): 6:16pm On May 27, 2007
@ SHOBABY

Request for a reconsideration (decisions can be overturned in days) and lodge an appeal as advised, but you have to make it clear who the sponsor/s is/are. On paper your father-in-law was the sponsor but there was hardly anything in your submission to substantiate this fact. The fact that his details were submitted with previous applications does not mean that it should not be included again in future ones.  

By the way, why did you not apply for a 2-years multiple or even 5-years multiple entry visa when the previous one expired in may, if your hubby was on study leave from work he intended to return to?

Your hubby coughs up £480pcm in rent, so how did you reach the conclusion that £6000 is enough for you, your hubby and your little one, to live a very comfortable life? Or was that supposed to read £6000 per calendar month too?
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by bigbumper(f): 6:27pm On May 27, 2007
neelsel:

WELCOME!!!
So are you one of [pataki's whimps? Well just so you know, bat, don't start anything you are NOT prepared to finish,
Now let me advice you as I did your counterpart, go to hell,

You call cheap insults and name-calling advice? I never argue with fools as people would not know the difference. You are the one that needs to take a walk off the gangplank.

BY THE WAY, in the same topic where you presumed mrpataki's apology to be a sign of weakness, you concluded that Nigerian/African men are ugly baboon and monkeys, who live in jungle and whose women use bleaching creams SO WHY ARE YOU HERE? WHY DO YOU SPEND ALL YOUR GOD-GIVEN TIME ON THIS FORUM CREATED BY AND FOR UGLY MONKEYS AND BABOONS? 
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by NymphoQin(f): 6:30pm On May 27, 2007
please 1 question my people. are you all here waiting on Uk visas?
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by OmoEko1(f): 6:50pm On May 27, 2007
NymphoQin:

please 1 question my people. are you all here waiting on Uk visas?
LOL no oh cheesy cheesy cheesy, what made u ask undecided undecided
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by NymphoQin(f): 6:56pm On May 27, 2007
Omo Eko:

LOL no oh cheesy cheesy cheesy, what made u ask undecided undecided
ah you laugh? i am serious o. my one and only cousin  may be kicked out next month if we don't find a solution. So i ask because maybe someone can shed light for people who need help. she was given a visa, but they don't want to extend it for her, who will i go clubbing with now? cry
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by OmoEko1(f): 7:29pm On May 27, 2007
NymphoQin:

ah you laugh? i am serious o. my one and only cousin may be kicked out next month if we don't find a solution. So i ask because maybe someone can shed light for people who need help. she was given a visa, but they don't want to extend it for her, who will i go clubbing with now? cry

I can't stop laughing cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy, so what bothers u the most is clubbing grin grin grin don't worry you and i can party together tongue tongue.

And you just have to ask the right people question regarding the visa because you don't want a false information from people that knows nothing about it.
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by NymphoQin(f): 7:31pm On May 27, 2007
you dont understand Omo if she goes, my social life is fuked grin
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by OmoEko1(f): 7:50pm On May 27, 2007
NymphoQin:

you don't understand Omo if she goes, my social life is fuked grin
You are funny and crazy grin grin grin u are fighting for your own social life shocked shocked but come one am sure u got friends that are willing to party with you, and more u can save your money cheesy
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by neelsel(f): 7:51pm On May 27, 2007
NymphoQin:

you don't understand Omo if she goes, my social life is fuked grin

Told ya Mami, No stress, It shall be well cheesy grin grin
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by mrpataki(m): 7:04pm On May 28, 2007
Shakes head and leaves before he talks anything.

@ Big_Bumper & Akolawole,
Really this is very sad cry cry
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by Akolawole(m): 9:45pm On May 28, 2007
@Mr Pataki and BB

The girl is gone at least for now.
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by shobaby(f): 10:38pm On May 28, 2007
@ Big Bumper,
my father in-law's letter was also included in my application(photocopy of the one submitted when my husband applied for his) and i drew attention to that.

didn't apply for a 2yr multiple visa because my marriage is young and my son is young and we thought the family should be together. my husband was of the opinion that he would miss out on some part of his formative years.

from information i got from the net, it is assumed that 6,000 GBP should be okay for one person per year (or is it more?) i have over 12,000 GBP for my son and i. so what i meant was 6,000 each for us per annum.
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by Akolawole(m): 12:39am On May 29, 2007
@shobaby

These abuses have thrown me apart.

I cant even remember your matter.

Can you please quote the post number for me again?
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by shobaby(f): 8:16am On May 29, 2007
[/quote][quote author=big_bumper link=topic=30156.msg1148886#msg1148886 date=1180286169]
@ SHOBABY

Request for a reconsideration (decisions can be overturned in days) and lodge an appeal as advised, but you have to make it clear who the sponsor/s is/are. On paper your father-in-law was the sponsor but there was hardly anything in your submission to substantiate this fact. The fact that his details were submitted with previous applications does not mean that it should not be included again in future ones.

By the way, why did you not apply for a 2-years multiple or even 5-years multiple entry visa when the previous one expired in may, if your hubby was on study leave from work he intended to return to?

Your hubby coughs up £480pcm in rent, so how did you reach the conclusion that £6000 is enough for you, your hubby and your little one, to live a very comfortable life? Or was that supposed to read £6000 per calendar month too?

i was replying to this post.

pls don't let anyone fustrate your efforts on this forum. you guys have been really helpful and some of us really appreciate what you are doing. thanks again
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by Akolawole(m): 10:11am On May 29, 2007
@Shobaby

I cant remember everything about your matter

But the £6000 is just a guide by british council.

@BB

£6000 per month ke?

Thats too much.

I dont think Tony Blair spend that much grin
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by shobaby(f): 9:23pm On May 30, 2007
@ Akolawole
applied for a dependant visa, was refused for reasons that shouldn't have been( statements ddnt look like what they have as samples from my bank) there was a reference letter from the control unit of my bank verifying the statements.

my husband's tenancy agreement ddnt state size of the apartment and wether he lived there alone( in coventry, 480GBP is standard rent for a 2 bedroom)

i did a letter of reconsideration to BHC with a letter from the landlord, stating that the house was occupied by my husband alone and that it was a 2 bedroom apartment.

i intend to either re-apply or appeal if i don't hear from them in another one week. i need advice on which line of action is best at this point.
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by Akolawole(m): 2:21am On May 31, 2007
@Shobaby

1) Did you include a tenancy agreement? If yes, that will SHOULD show the accomodation details.

2) Dont bother about the bank statement one even though they(BHC) do have samples as they claimed but one of the things they check these days is VAT on the account.Imagine that! BHC have turned themselves into Tax officers. Once there is abnormalities in the way the tax was calculated, they will conclude that it is Fake.

My advice goes thus:

1) If you dont hear from them, file the appeal before the stipulated date (28/56 days).

2) Then after about 2 weeks, file another application BUT TRY TO CORRECT THE WRONG.

The application might be delayed for a while and ECO will likely call you for interview. Once they are satisfied, you will be asked to sign a form of withdrawal of the appeal.

I think you have a good case.

@LC, VOR,Pataki and BB

Any comment on the above?
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by casperc100: 7:21pm On May 31, 2007
My UK student visa was refused on 9 october 2006, then i appealed on 6th november 2006, huh it tooks a long time, they gave 76 days time to ECO to file appeal bunde but he couldn't, then AIT gave him more 56 days time to file that bundle without any further delay but he still haven't filed an appeal bundle till the hearing. now it was my appeal hearing on 8th may 2007, since then i haven't receive any aknowledgement of AIT after the appeal hearing, almost its the 23rd day of my appeal hearing but i dont know what happened? could anyone please let me know how much time does it take to get the determination papers or any aknowledgement.
Thanks
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by mrpataki(m): 3:36pm On Jun 01, 2007
Akolawole:

@Shobaby

1) Did you include a tenancy agreement? If yes, that will SHOULD show the accomodation details.

2) Dont bother about the bank statement one even though they(BHC) do have samples as they claimed but one of the things they check these days is VAT on the account.Imagine that! BHC have turned themselves into Tax officers. Once there is abnormalities in the way the tax was calculated, they will conclude that it is Fake.

My advice goes thus:

1) If you don't hear from them, file the appeal before the stipulated date (28/56 days).

2) Then after about 2 weeks, file another application BUT TRY TO CORRECT THE WRONG.

The application might be delayed for a while and ECO will likely call you for interview. Once they are satisfied, you will be asked to sign a form of withdrawal of the appeal.

I think you have a good case.

@LC, VOR,Pataki and BB

Any comment on the above?



Really am still trying to recover from all those insults that girl and her crew brought in here. But on the whole you seem to be correct with what you stated here. Have not had time to settle and digest her story. Been busy of late.

Thanks for the contribution.
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by Akolawole(m): 4:52pm On Jun 01, 2007
mrpataki:

Really am still trying to recover from all those insults that girl and her crew brought in here.

She insulted me past you.

From my grandmother to thenewly born baby in my family.

She did all that with two different Yahoo messenger.

Well, I am used to those insults in Sports sha.
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by casperc100: 7:24pm On Jun 01, 2007
can anyone please let me know when will i get the determination, it was student visa appeal, it was hearing on 8th may and huh, its 1st june today, please anyone reply
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by lelele: 4:14am On Jun 04, 2007
@casporacoci
Sorry if i didnt get yr name right, why not relax since the hearing was on the may 5, the determination is not yet late and you can contact the ait by email or telephone. Good luck. was is a paper or oral hearing?
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by casperc100: 10:16am On Jun 11, 2007
@lelele
thanks lelele, its paper hearing, i got their response through email, they said my appeal has not been heard on 8th may, they said, it will be heard after 8th may but they can't give me timescale,,, cause there are many paper hearings awaiting to be heard by an immigration judge,,,, tell me what do i do now? Thanks Lelele
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by liliana(f): 11:37am On Jun 11, 2007
@Mr pataki,VOR,
The interview was succesful.Thanks to u guys for the encouragement.My passport will be ready in 3wks time(from june 7th).I need travel advice.I want a direct flight from Lagos to london(heathrow).Which airways do this flight?
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by mrpataki(m): 10:40pm On Jun 11, 2007
liliana:

@Mr pataki,VOR,
The interview was succesful.Thanks to u guys for the encouragement.My passport will be ready in 3wks time(from june 7th).I need travel advice.I want a direct flight from Lagos to london(heathrow).Which airways do this flight?

Congrats on another success in the house!
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by VOR(m): 11:22pm On Jun 11, 2007
liliana:

@Mr pataki,VOR,
The interview was succesful.Thanks to u guys for the encouragement.My passport will be ready in 3wks time(from june 7th).I need travel advice.I want a direct flight from Lagos to london(heathrow).Which airways do this flight?

Glad to hear of your success.

It is nice to know that sometimes the advice we give here for free is useful
and helps people.

With regards to your question, I believe, British airways, Bellevue, Virgin Atlantic and VirginNigeria all have direct flights
either to Gatwick or Heathrow. Other airlines such as Iberia also fly to the UK from Nigeria
but they have stop overs eg Spain. These flights take longer but are obviously cheaper. The
good thing is that since you are travelling on a UK passport you certainly won't need
a transit visa for any stop in an  EU country.

Hope you have fixed yourself up with reliable accommodation and prospects of a job?
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by funkybaby(f): 5:34pm On Jun 13, 2007
@liliana

congratulations. just fly with virginnigeria. stop-overs with airlines such as iberia can be very tiring believe me.

@vor, akolawole,mrpataki

i am kinda diverting a little from the original thread.

please, can you guys explain immigration rules that apply to scotland? i heard recently that after one year of study and graduation from a scottish university, one is entitled to two years work permit. is this true? if yes, is such person eligible for indefinate leave to remain after the 2years? does it apply to any profession or are there specialised professions/skills? can this immigration status be used in england?

secondly, what are the rules that apply to students who want their dependents to come into the UK.eg.wife or fiancee? assumming a student has a dependant, is the dependant given a visa with a work permit (if such person is a university graduate).is it allowed for international students in the uk to get married whilst in the uk without returming to their home courntry?

please, i need your answers, advice, view, suggestions and opinions on the above questions. i need to make some important decisions in my life and these answers will help me in no small measure. thanks a lot.
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by Akolawole(m): 1:11am On Jun 14, 2007
funkybaby:


1) immigration rules that apply to scotland? i heard recently that after one year of study and graduation from a scottish university, one is entitled to two years work permit. is this true?

2) if yes, is such person eligible for indefinate leave to remain after the 2years? does it apply to any profession or are there specialised professions/skills?

3) can this immigration status be used in england?

4) what are the rules that apply to students who want their dependents to come into the UK.eg.wife or fiancee?

5)assumming a student has a dependant, is the dependant given a visa with a work permit (if such person is a university graduate).

6) is it allowed for international students in the uk to get married whilst in the uk without returming to their home courntry?

1) Upon graduation in Scottish Universities, Students are given automatic 2 years work permit.

2) No, students dont qualify for Indefinite stay after THAT 2 years, the 5 years rule applies in scotland as well

3) Legally, It cant be used in England.

4) This had been dealt with several times on NL, i think London cool even pasted the rule somewhere here. Please check.

5) Dependant visa has nothing to do with education. The Dependant visa allows the bearer to do full time work but his/her continous stay in the country still depends on the the Principal Visa holder( Student).

6) Yes but depends on whoever they are marrying. I think they cannot marry a VISITOR( from visa nationals). TThey can marry a fellow international students/EU/UK citizen but with permission.

Good luck
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by VOR(m): 10:54am On Jun 14, 2007
Akolawole:

1) Upon graduation in Scottish Universities, Students are given automatic 2 years work permit.

2) No, students don't qualify for Indefinite stay after THAT 2 years, the 5 years rule applies in scotland as well

3) Legally, It can't be used in England.

4) This had been dealt with several times on Nairaland, i think London cool even pasted the rule somewhere here. Please check.

5) Dependant visa has nothing to do with education. The Dependant visa allows the bearer to do full time work but his/her continous stay in the country still depends on the the Principal Visa holder( Student).

6) Yes but depends on whoever they are marrying. I think they cannot marry a VISITOR( from visa nationals). TThey can marry a fellow international students/EU/UK citizen but with permission.

Good luck

1) That is not quite accurate. Students who have studied in Scotland can APPLY as a working in Scotland scheme  participant. It is NOT granted automatically and the provisions of the Immigration Rules have to be met before it is granted. I have copied and pasted these below:

      [b]Requirements for leave to enter the United Kingdom as a Fresh Talent: Working in Scotland scheme participant
143A. The requirements to be met by a person seeking leave to enter as a Fresh Talent: Working in Scotland scheme participant are that the applicant:

(i) has been awarded:

(a) a HND, by a Scottish publicly funded institution of further or higher education, or a Scottish bona fide private education institution; or

(b) a recognised UK undergraduate degree, Master's degree or PhD or postgraduate certificate or diploma, by a Scottish education institution which is a recognised or listed body; and

(ii) has lived in Scotland for an appropriate period of time whilst studying for the HND, undergraduate degree, Master's degree PhD or postgraduate certificate or diploma referred to in (i) above; and

(iii) intends to seek and take employment in Scotland during the period of leave granted under this paragraph; and

(iv) is able to maintain and accommodate himself and any dependants adequately without recourse to public funds; and

(v) has completed the HND, undergraduate degree, Master's degree PhD or postgraduate certificate or diploma referred to in (i) above in the last 12 months; and

(vi) intends to leave the United Kingdom if, on expiry of his leave under this paragraph, he has not been granted leave to remain in the United Kingdom as:

(a) a work permit holder in accordance with paragraphs 128 - 135 of these Rules; or

(b) under the highly skilled migrant programme in accordance with paragraphs 135A - 135H of these Rules; or

(c) a person intending to establish themselves in business in accordance with paragraphs 200 - 210 of these Rules; or

(d) an innovator in accordance with paragraphs 210A - 210H of these Rules; and

(vii) has the written consent of his official sponsor to enter or remain in the United Kingdom as a Fresh Talent: Working in Scotland scheme participant, if the studies which led to his qualification under (i) above (or any studies he has subsequently undertaken) were sponsored by a government or international scholarship agency; and

(viii) if he has previously been granted leave as either:

(a) a Fresh Talent: Working in Scotland scheme participant in accordance with this paragraph; and/or

(b) a participant in the Science and Engineering Graduates Scheme or International Graduates Scheme in accordance with paragraphs 135O - 135T of these Rules is not seeking leave to enter under this paragraph which, when amalgamated with any previous periods of leave granted in either of these two categories, would total more than 24 months; and

(ix) holds a valid entry clearance for entry in this capacity except where he is a British National (Overseas), a British overseas territories citizen, a British Overseas citizen, a British protected person or a person who under the British Nationality Act 1981 is a British subject.

Leave to enter as a Fresh Talent: Working in Scotland scheme participant
143B. A person seeking leave to enter the United Kingdom as a Fresh Talent: Working in Scotland scheme participant may be admitted for a period not exceeding 24 months provided the Immigration Officer is satisfied that each of the requirements of paragraph 143A is met.

Refusal of leave to enter as a Fresh Talent: Working in Scotland scheme participant
143C. Leave to enter as a Fresh Talent: Working in Scotland scheme participant is to be refused if the Immigration Officer is not satisfied that each of the requirements of paragraph 143A is met.

Requirements for an extension of stay as a Fresh Talent: Working in Scotland scheme participant
143D. The requirements to be met by a person seeking an extension of stay as a Fresh Talent: Working in Scotland scheme participant are that the applicant:

(i) meets the requirements of paragraph 143A (i) to (vii); and

(ii) has leave to enter or remain in the United Kingdom as either:

(a) a student in accordance with paragraphs 57 - 69L of these Rules; or

(b) a participant in the Science and Engineering Graduates Scheme or International Graduates Scheme in accordance with paragraphs 135O - 135T of these Rules; or

(c) a Fresh Talent: Working in Scotland scheme participant in accordance with paragraphs 143A - 143F of these Rules; and

(iii) if he has previously been granted leave as either:

(a) a Fresh Talent: Working in Scotland scheme participant in accordance with paragraphs 143A - 143F of these Rules; and/or

(b) a Science and Engineering Graduates Scheme or International Graduates Scheme participant in accordance with paragraphs 135O - 135T of these Rules is not seeking leave to remain under this paragraph which, when amalgamated with any previous periods of leave granted in either of these two categories, would total more than 24 months.

Extension of stay as a Fresh Talent: Working in Scotland scheme participant
143E. An extension of stay as a Fresh Talent: Working in Scotland scheme participant may be granted for a period not exceeding 24 months if the Secretary of State is satisfied that each of the requirements of paragraph 143D is met.

Refusal of an extension of stay as a Fresh Talent: Working in Scotland scheme participant
143F. An extension of stay as a Fresh Talent: Working in Scotland scheme participant is to be refused if the Secretary of State is not satisfied that each of the requirements of paragraph 143D is met.

[/b]

2) You are correct. Although if Funky obtains an EC/resident permit on the basis of marriage to a person settled in the UK she will be granted an initial period of two years residence followed by ILR provided the marriage is still subsisting. Perhaps this is what she means.

3) You are correct, it would appear participants can only use the scheme to work in Scotland. Although, if practicable, I can't see any problem with living in England e.g Newcastle and working in Scotland. Also, what would happen if you were employed by a Scottish based company but got transferred to England? That I would suggest would depend on an interpretation of the rules by an Immigration Officer in the first instance and then on appeal.

4) As you said somewhere in the body of this thread that issue has been dealt with by myself and LC.

5) Spot on.

6)Anyone in the UK who has limited leave to remain or is  subject to immigration control is unable to get married without first applying to the Home Office( In Country) for permission. He/she must apply for a certificate of approval to get married in the UK. As a student you must have at least three months of your leave left. Such a person can marry a visitor to the UK but that visitor must first of all have obtained an EC for the purpose of marriage. This applies to all countries (Except EU nationals) so for example if an American visitor
wants to get married in the UK he/she must have obtained a visa for the purpose before    coming to the UK.

Hope this helps.
Re: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by Akolawole(m): 12:04pm On Jun 14, 2007
@VOR

I think you have forgotten Funky's situation from the word go.

1) Am i wrong? NO. After graduation, Students applied and were given

2) Funky has nothing to do with 2 years ILR ( Try to remember Funky initial story o grin)

6) Like i said, Visa nationals do need permission to marry in UK. Do you know there is a way to beat that?
. I gave you that as a weekend coursework to be submitted on monday grin

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