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Re: Mourinho: Genius Or Fluke by raffite: 2:35pm On Feb 16, 2010
Goat must respond if you halla "Kai"

HaaHaaaaaaa!!! Una go kill me oooooo!!!
Re: Mourinho: Genius Or Fluke by dayokanu(m): 9:40pm On Feb 24, 2010
Still waiting for the touch of genius from Jose tonight. Chelsea has dominated him so far
Re: Mourinho: Genius Or Fluke by Akolawole(m): 2:17am On Feb 25, 2010
dayokanu:

Still waiting for the touch of genius from Jose tonight. Chelsea has dominated him so far

Dayo, you know wan forget JM so? grin

Can you remind me of the scoreline? cry
Re: Mourinho: Genius Or Fluke by Sauron1: 3:32am On Feb 25, 2010
Akolawole:

Dayo, you know wan forget JM so? grin

Can you remind me of the scoreline? cry

Is the tie over yet?
1st leg scoreline and you are already jubilating?


Roma 2-1 Man Utd(first leg)
Two weeks later. . . . . . .Man Utd 7-1 Roma. grin grin grin
Re: Mourinho: Genius Or Fluke by Nobody: 7:50am On Feb 25, 2010
~Sauron~:

Is the tie over yet?
1st leg scoreline and you are already jubilating?

Roma 2-1 Man Utd(first leg)
Two weeks later. . . . . . .Man Utd 7-1 Roma. grin grin grin
Don't mind the blind JM follower.
Inter were FORTUNATE to go into the second leg with a lead.
If Chelsea get their act right,Inter will crumble in 3 weeks time
Re: Mourinho: Genius Or Fluke by Akolawole(m): 3:42pm On Feb 25, 2010
Eastbay:

Don't mind the blind JM follower.

Mr,
i hardly use such compliments for people and i think i dont deserve this. English language is so vast that "proper" word(s) are always available to make opinions known.

@Jacka-boy

I dont know why yesterday's match had a bearing on flukeness of JM.

Dayo made a comment during the match but ran away to counter or stressed his point after the match. His keyword is "Domination" shocked

By the way, who is jubilating?
Re: Mourinho: Genius Or Fluke by Sauron1: 3:49pm On Feb 25, 2010
Akolawole:

@Jacka-boy

I dont know why yesterday's match had a bearing on flukeness of JM.

Dayo made a comment during the match but ran away to counter or stressed his point after the match. His keyword is "Domination" shocked

By the way, who is jubilating?

Just one of those things.
Mourinho himself confessed Chelsea shoulda copped a penalty.
Besides, no team would miss Bosingwa, Ashley Cole and Essien without struggling.

As much as Chelsea were handicapped, they were still the better team.
They will be too much for Inter @ SB in the 2nd leg.
Drogba will murder Inter's defence. Last night's result was a classic FLUKE.
Re: Mourinho: Genius Or Fluke by dayokanu(m): 4:34pm On Feb 25, 2010
Is this all Jose Mourinhos could come out with? A subdued performance at home.

Wait for return leg
Re: Mourinho: Genius Or Fluke by FBS: 8:55am On Feb 26, 2010
Mourinho's mental magic

Say what you like about Jose Mourinho, but he certainly knows how to make a statement.
The Portuguese manager did not celebrate either of his side's goals as Internazionale beat Chelsea 2-1 in their Champions League second round first leg in Milan, as a mark of respect to his former club.

Just when a fresh dose of canny sound bites and sly digs at his opposite number in the pre-match build-up was in danger of veering into self-parody, Mourinho gave a magnanimous display in the Inter dugout as his team put the quarter-finals in their sights.

He is too shrewd to do anything that might dent his popularity with his adoring fans at his former club. When visiting supporters milling around the Piazza del Duomo are chanting a former manager's name, some two-and-a-half years after he left, you know they must be doing something right.

It is clear that there is an enmity between Mourinho and Carlo Ancelotti, but there was little air of self-satisfaction in his reactions during or after the match.

All of which must grate with Ancelotti much more than any overtly brash celebrations would have done.

The latest man to step into Jose's shadow at Stamford Bridge saw at first hand how, no matter how well he is doing in his first season at the club, he has a long way to go before he is judged on his own terms by employer, media and fans alike.

There was something saddening about seeing such an intelligent and dignified man return to the scene of so many of his past glories and seem so utterly isolated. This is the kind of effect that no manager other than Mourinho can have on an 85,000-seater stadium.

The real worry for the Chelsea boss now is that the same effect will take hold of the return leg in West London, only magnified. The media clamour seen in Milan will increase tenfold as Mourinho feeds line after line to an enraptured press pack just grateful to have him back, if only for a fleeting visit.

There will no doubt be more quotes about how he plans to return to Chelsea one day, perhaps adding how he regards London as his home. He may reveal how he phoned Petr Cech to check up on his injury scare right after the first leg, describe the Manchester City job as an exciting challenge, or mischievously endorse Rafael Benitez while stressing how he has never experienced troubles like his one-time counterpart in his own career.

And all this will preface the hero's welcome he will inevitably receive when he walks out on to the turf in SW6. It's just a shame that, such is the protracted nature of the trudge through the last 16, we have to wait three weeks for it to happen.

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/early-doors/article/230957/
Re: Mourinho: Genius Or Fluke by Wahala90: 6:51pm On Feb 26, 2010
Goat-Crants!

Jose Mourinho is one of the finest football tactician and entertainer of our time.

Jose Mourinho’s run of over 155 (at present) home league matches unbeaten is one record that will never be surpassed at the highest level.

Unless you are a Goat-Crant, whichever team you support, and whatever your view of opinion-divider Mourinho – you cannot help but applaud the 46-year-old.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/1717/editorial/2009/11/09/1614116/calcio-debate-jose-mourinhos-150-game-record-patrick-vieira
Re: Mourinho: Genius Or Fluke by dayokanu(m): 6:28pm On Mar 16, 2010
Mourinhos Inter are still struggling to hold onto top position in the weak Serie A where crappy AC Milan is second.

This shows that Inters team have really fallen in quality since Mancini left and Mouthrinho cant save them
Re: Mourinho: Genius Or Fluke by mystikal(m): 9:35am On Mar 17, 2010
Say Something !
Re: Mourinho: Genius Or Fluke by Akolawole(m): 11:24am On Mar 17, 2010
What do you expect? The principal actors on this thread are on holiday.

This thread have to died a natural death cry
Re: Mourinho: Genius Or Fluke by Nobody: 11:36am On Mar 17, 2010
And we're supposed to crown Mourinho a genius just because he beat Chelsea over two legs?
Re: Mourinho: Genius Or Fluke by Sauron1: 11:37am On Mar 17, 2010
Eastbay:

And we're supposed to crown Mourinho a genius just because he beat Chelsea over two legs?


Don't mind Akola. . . . . .
Jose played the weakest Chelsea team in the past 3 years. . . . .Chelsea without Essien and Ashley Cole is over-weak.
Now Jose beat Chelsea over 2 legs and he's a genius.

Should we crown Mancini a genius too?
Re: Mourinho: Genius Or Fluke by RuuDie(m): 1:51pm On Mar 17, 2010
~Sauron~:

Don't mind Akola. . . . . .
Jose played the weakest Chelsea team in the past 3 years. . . . .Chelsea without Essien and Ashley Cole is over-weak.
Now Jose beat Chelsea over 2 legs and he's a genius.

Should we crown Mancini a genius too?

Abegi, no talk. . . . weakest chelsea team in three yrs my foot - this is all they've had since JM so don't even try to tell it any different!
Re: Mourinho: Genius Or Fluke by Nobody: 1:58pm On Mar 17, 2010
~Sauron~:

Don't mind Akola. . . . . .
Jose played the weakest Chelsea team in the past 3 years. . . . .Chelsea without Essien and Ashley Cole is over-weak.
Now Jose beat Chelsea over 2 legs and he's a genius.

Should we crown Mancini a genius too?
Maybe Mancini should be labelled a genius as well,since City did same.
The fella should be ashamed to even post,given that an ex-coach beat his side,yet he comes here to gloat over the fact that a man who beat a side he knows through and through is a serious feat.
Aside Anelka and Zhirkov,who else of serious note didn't Mourinho buy in the side that featured yesterday?It's basically the same side he left in 2007.
If he didn't get past Chelsea,then we'd have buried this argument.He just did what was expected of him,now some folks are ready to turban him the new Emir of Zungeru.
Re: Mourinho: Genius Or Fluke by Wahala90: 2:10pm On Mar 17, 2010
GoatCrants are losers and every loser has an excuse.
Re: Mourinho: Genius Or Fluke by Nobody: 3:02pm On Mar 17, 2010
Empty people keep saying the same thing over and over again.
Re: Mourinho: Genius Or Fluke by Nobody: 3:21pm On Mar 17, 2010
Why is Mourinho so hated?
After SAF, he's the best right now.

You can't fault his achievements.

I wonder how SAF will fare in another league?
Probably be fighting to avoid relegation. cheesy
Re: Mourinho: Genius Or Fluke by dayokanu(m): 3:37pm On Mar 17, 2010
Why is Mourinho so hated?
After SAF, he's the best right now.

You can't fault his achievements
.

I wonder how SAF will fare in another league?
Probably be fighting to avoid relegation.


You mean he is the best in EPL? SAF has already won the scottish league when MOUTHRINHO was in High school.

How come Mourinho is better than Ottmar Hitzfeld with 2 CL in different clubs, Del Bosque with 2 CL or Ancelotti with 2 CL?
Re: Mourinho: Genius Or Fluke by Nobody: 3:58pm On Mar 17, 2010
JM would have won the CL with Chelsea if he had stayed.
CA won 2 CL and managed just 1 Seria A in like 8yrs.

JM has won the league in Portugal (2) , England  (2) and Italy ( 1 will likely win it again this season) .
He won the CL with Porto, he wasn't allowed to stay, he'd have won it with Chelsea too.

How can you even mention the Scottish league?
The top dogs there, Celtic and Rangers are perennial failures in Europe.

De Bosque and Hitzfield are history.
I'm talking of managers that are considered today.
Re: Mourinho: Genius Or Fluke by Sauron1: 4:08pm On Mar 17, 2010
RuuDie:

Abegi, no talk. . . . weakest chelsea team in three yrs my foot - this is all they've had since JM so don't even try to tell it any different!

Avram Grant's squad was better than any Jose Mourinho's team in Europe.
Grant reached the final and but for a useless John Terry, Grant coulda won the UCL.

Any team will miss the thrust of Ashley Cole and Essien.
I cannot imagine Man Utd without Evra's thrusts and Fletcher's destructive style of play to break up opposition's play.
Without Fletcher, United lost gallantly to Barcelona last season. . . .

BlueDiva:

JM would have won the CL with Chelsea if he had stayed.
CA won 2 CL and managed just 1 Seria A in like 8yrs.

He had 3 attempts to do it and Liverpool outfoxed him TWICE.
The same Liverpool were beaten bluish-blackish by a badgeless Zionist known as Avram Grant.


JM has won the league in Portugal (2) , England  (2) and Italy ( 1 will likely win it again this season) .
He won the CL with Porto, he wasn't allowed to stay, he'd have won it with Chelsea too.

After how many attempts?
2004/5(beaten by Rafa Benitez)
2005/6(beaten by Frank Rijkaard)
2006/7(beaten by Rafa Benitez)
2008/9(beaten by SAF)


How can you even mention the Scottish league?
The top dogs there, Celtic and Rangers are perennial failures in Europe.

SAF's Aberdeen trounced big teams like Bayern Munich and Real Madrid in Europe.


De Bosque and Hitzfield are history.
I'm talking of managers that are considered today.

Jose Mourinho is not even in the top 6 of world class managers we have today.
Re: Mourinho: Genius Or Fluke by Nobody: 4:17pm On Mar 17, 2010
He had 3 attempts to do it and Liverpool outfoxed him TWICE.
The same Liverpool were beaten bluish-blackish by a badgeless Zionist known as Avram Grant.

You know the controversy surrounding the CFC v Pool game (the phantom goal).
So if Terry had converted, you'd have said Grant is better than JM? Doesn't make sense.


Jose Mourinho is not even in the top 6 of world class managers we have today.

Laughable. Yet Madrid will kill to have him.
Re: Mourinho: Genius Or Fluke by RuuDie(m): 4:19pm On Mar 17, 2010
I'm far from a Mourinho fan. . .  but dude that guy won the UCL with a buncha nobodys!

Del Bosque was with RM. . . . Hitzfeldt with Bayern. . . . Ancelloti with AC Milan! Guy abeg give the man some credit.

He coached Chelsea some years back, so Does that stop Chelsea from beating Inter CA has faced this same Inter side countless times over the last 5yrs, does he want to claim he knows nothing about 'em!?

Abeg JM got his tactics spot on - give him credit!
Re: Mourinho: Genius Or Fluke by RuuDie(m): 4:21pm On Mar 17, 2010
@ sauron,

we also won the UCL in '99 without key players too. . . .
Re: Mourinho: Genius Or Fluke by Sauron1: 4:23pm On Mar 17, 2010
BlueDiva:

Wasn't JM

Who did SAF disgrace in the round of 16 last season? Mourinho's grand-dad?


You know the controversy surrounding the CFC v Pool game (the phantom goal).

Which stupid phantom goal? Why didn't Chelsea score a goal @ SB?
If you remove Liverpool's ghost-goal, Chelsea would still have needed to win a penalty shootout to beat Liverpool and after how Liverpool outfoxed AC Milan in 2004/5 on in a shoot-out, there's no way Jose Mourinho coulda beaten Liverpool.


So if Terry had converted, you'd have said Grant is better than JM? Doesn't make sense.

Had Terry converted his kick, Avram Grant woulda won the UCL without a coaching badge with the same squad Jose Mourinho publicly declared was not good enough. Didn't he compare that Chelsea squad to Class C eggs bought in Oshodi Market?
Of course, Grant woulda been adjudged to be better than Jose Mourinho if he had achieved it.


Laughable. Yet Madrid will kill to have him.

Madrid would kill to have any manager.
They killed to have Carlos Queiroz(Man Utd's number 2).
Re: Mourinho: Genius Or Fluke by dayokanu(m): 4:25pm On Mar 17, 2010
Wasn't JM
JM was disgraced by SAF in 2009.

Laughable. Yet Madrid will kill to have him.

Have you checked the kind of coaches Real Madrid gets recently?

@Ruudie, Hitzfeld won with unfancied Dortmund
Re: Mourinho: Genius Or Fluke by Sauron1: 4:28pm On Mar 17, 2010
RuuDie:

@ sauron,
we also won the UCL in '99 without key players too. . . .

And we were outplayed and disgraced for 90 minutes.
But for SAF's gamble/tactics to introduce 3-4 strikers, United woulda lost the final.
Re: Mourinho: Genius Or Fluke by dayokanu(m): 4:42pm On Mar 17, 2010
I'm far from a Mourinho fan. . . but dude that guy won the UCL with a buncha nobodys!

And he couldnt win with a bunch of millionaires in Chelsea.

Del Bosque was with RM. . . . Hitzfeldt with Bayern. . . . Ancelloti with AC Milan! Guy abeg give the man some credit.

Del Bosques real Madrid of 2000 was one of the worst teams in Europe. They had lost 8-3 in the groups to Bayern and needed a last day win at Rosenburg to qualify.

Hitzfeld won with Dortmund.

Ancelotti won with AC Milan the same AC Milan that was disgraced 7-2 last week
Re: Mourinho: Genius Or Fluke by Nobody: 4:50pm On Mar 17, 2010
Who did SAF disgrace in the round of 16 last season? Mourinho's grand-dad?

Thought we were talking of his time at CFC.

Had Terry converted his kick, Avram Grant woulda won the UCL without a coaching badge with the same squad Jose Mourinho publicly declared was not good enough. Didn't he compare that Chelsea squad to Class C eggs bought in Oshodi Market?
Of course, Grant woulda been adjudged to be better than Jose Mourinho if he had achieved it.

I don't get this hate.
What has SAF, Wenger, Ancellotti, De Bosque, Rijkard etc won that he hasn't?
A man who won 67% of his games and lost only 11% in his career is a fking GENIUS !!!
Re: Mourinho: Genius Or Fluke by Sauron1: 4:54pm On Mar 17, 2010
BlueDiva:

Thought we were talking of his time at CFC.

Jose Mourinho of CFC is the same Jose Mourinho of Inter.
Nothing has changed and fact remains he was disgraced by SAF last season in the round of 16.


I don't get this hate.
What has SAF, Wenger, Ancellotti, De Bosque, Rijkard etc won that he hasn't?
A man who won 67% of his games and lost only 11% in his career is a fking GENIUS !!!

This is because Jose Mourinho is a glory hunter who only seeks to work in clubs that are ready to splash top dollar on quality players.
Let him go to Stoke FC or West Brom and start from the scratch like SAF did with United or how Rijkaard did with Barcelona and win with them.

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