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Any F1 Buffs? by Beaf: 7:53am On Feb 18, 2010 |
There's so much to look forward to in the 2010 F1 season, the the come back of Michael Schumacher, the pairing of two World champs in Hamilton and Button. Its everywhere! Massa v Alonso at Ferrari and in the grand scheme, Hamilton v Alonso in a McLaren - Ferrari showdown. Wet weather has continued to make pre-season testing at Jerez useless. . . Jerez testing times (Wednesday 17 February) 1 VETTEL Red Bull 1m22.593s (103) 2 HAMILTON McLaren 1m23.017s (72) 3 MASSA Ferrari 1m23.204s (72) 4 BUEMI Toro Rosso 1m23.322s (79) 5 DE LA ROSA Sauber 1m23.367s (77) 6 SCHUMACHER Mercedes 1m23.803s (111) 7 SUTIL Force India 1m24.272s (28) 8 DI RESTA Force India 1m25.088s (76) 9 PETROV Renault 1m26.237s (59) 10 BARRICHELLO Williams 1m27.320s (109) 11 FAUZY Lotus 1m31.848s (76) 12 GLOCK Virgin 1m32.417s (10) 2006 McLaren. . . Beautiful!
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Re: Any F1 Buffs? by montelik(m): 12:33pm On Feb 22, 2010 |
I think stopping re-fueling during races is going to have a detrimental effect on the entire championship. |
Re: Any F1 Buffs? by omar22(m): 5:07pm On Feb 22, 2010 |
I believe Lewis has learnt last year that erratic driving damages tyres because he would be driving on a full tank from next month, if Alonso doesnt throw his toys out again he might win if the car could match both Mercedes engine cars |
Re: Any F1 Buffs? by Beaf: 9:19pm On Mar 11, 2010 |
omar22: Lewis was pretty impressive throughout testing and McLaren concentrated heavily on long runs. I am betting against the grain that Massa will actually shred Alonso to bits. . . And he will do it with quiet confidence, like he did to Kimi. Alonso needs a weak team mate, which Massa isn't.
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Re: Any F1 Buffs? by Beaf: 9:26pm On Mar 11, 2010 |
montelik: Why? I think its going to make for really interesting race strategies as well as never say die drivers trying to haul exhausted rubber to the end of the race. There will be races that will be pure gore and attrition (I strongly suspect Silverstone and Malaysia). |
Re: Any F1 Buffs? by chic2pimp(m): 2:58am On Mar 12, 2010 |
You loff F1 too? |
Re: Any F1 Buffs? by omar22(m): 7:42am On Mar 12, 2010 |
Why? I think its going to make for really interesting race strategies as well as never say die drivers trying to haul exhausted rubber to the end of the race. There will be races that will be pure gore and attrition (I strongly suspect Silverstone and Malaysia). A heavy tank would have a detrimental effect on the tyres, I could be an adavntage for a smooth driver like Button but a jot rider like Lewis or Schumacher no chance |
Re: Any F1 Buffs? by Beaf: 2:01pm On Mar 12, 2010 |
First practise times: Bahrain Grand Prix free practice session 1 times 1 SUTIL Force India 1m56.583s 2 ALONSO Ferrari 1m56.766s 3 KUBICA Renault 1m57.041s 4 MASSA Ferrari 1m57.055s 5 BUTTON McLaren 1m57.068s 6 HAMILTON McLaren 1m57.163s 7 LIUZZI Force India 1m57.194s 8 ROSBERG Mercedes 1m57.199s 9 WEBBER Red Bull 1m57.255s 10 SCHUMACHER Mercedes 1m57.662s 11 ALGUERSUARI Toro Rosso 1m57.722s 12 HULKENBERG Williams 1m57.894s 13 VETTEL Red Bull 1m57.943s 14 BUEMI Toro Rosso 1m58.399s 15 BARRICHELLO Williams 1m58.782s 16 PETROV Renault 1m58.880s 17 DE LA ROSA Sauber 2m00.250s 18 KOBAYASHI Sauber 2m01.388s 19 GLOCK Virgin 2m03.680s 20 KOVALAINEN Lotus 2m03.848s 21 TRULLI Lotus 2m03.970s 22 DI GRASSI Virgin no time 23 SENNA HRT no time 24 CHANDHOK HRT no time |
Re: Any F1 Buffs? by Beaf: 2:06pm On Mar 12, 2010 |
omar22: I don't know, but the car would certainly have been designed around Lewis, which could put Button at a disadvantage. Also, lets not forget Lewis and Schumacher are both very intelligent drivers who tend to look out for scraps here and there to maximise speed; its going to be a difficult mix to predict. |
Re: Any F1 Buffs? by Beaf: 2:15pm On Mar 12, 2010 |
Mercedes' Nico Rosberg set the fastest time in second practice in Bahrain, deflecting attention from the Formula 1 return of team-mate Michael Schumacher. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8563764.stm It is either Mercedes and McLaren are sandbagging or Rosberg is damn fast! Perhaps it could be that the new diffuser Mercedes brought in today is much more to Rosbergs liking than Schumacher's (in which case, the Mercedes is damn fast). . . .But again, you can never really rely on test times to determine actual race speeds. |
Re: Any F1 Buffs? by Beaf: 2:39pm On Mar 12, 2010 |
Bahrain Grand Prix free practice session 2 times 1 ROSBERG Mercedes 1m55.409s 2 HAMILTON McLaren 1m55.854s 3 SCHUMACHER Mercedes 1m55.903s 4 BUTTON McLaren 1m56.076s 5 VETTEL Red Bull 1m56.459s 6 HULKENBERG Williams 1m56.501s 7 MASSA Ferrari 1m56.555s 8 PETROV Renault 1m56.750s 9 ALONSO Ferrari 1m57.140s 10 DE LA ROSA Sauber 1m57.255s 11 KOBAYASHI Sauber 1m57.352s 12 SUTIL Force India 1m57.361s 13 BARRICHELLO Williams 1m57.452s 14 LIUZZI Force India 1m57.833s 15 KUBICA Renault 1m58.155s 16 ALGUERSUARI Toro Rosso 1m59.799s 17 WEBBER Red Bull 2m00.444s 18 KOVALAINEN Lotus 2m00.873s 19 TRULLI Lotus 2m00.990s 20 GLOCK Virgin 2m02.037s 21 DI GRASSI Virgin 2m02.188s 22 SENNA HRT 2m06.968s 23 BUEMI Toro Rosso no time 24 CHANDHOK HRT no time |
Re: Any F1 Buffs? by Beaf: 6:31pm On Mar 12, 2010 |
chic2pimp: love-vendor! Yes I do o! Sorry, I been no see ya post b4. How about you? @topic What d'you guys thing about the controversy with McLarens rear wing design? It sounds damn cheecky to me. Its estimated to give the McLaren boys an extra 10km/hr in straightline speed. A debate is raging in F1 regarding an innovative aerodynamic concept on the car that has been passed legal, but has had nearly every other team principal and engineering guru mumbling words of discontent. The design employs Lewis Hamilton and Button to close off a vent in the cockpit of their car using their legs, which in turn helps to stall the rear wing for extra straight-line speed. They use the sharkfin thingy to shovel the air below the wing.
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Re: Any F1 Buffs? by Beaf: 6:41pm On Mar 12, 2010 |
Ferrari is not to be left out of the "clever" stakes too ;
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Re: Any F1 Buffs? by chic2pimp(m): 7:47pm On Mar 12, 2010 |
@ Beaf F1 is far and away my favourite motor sport. I can't for the start of this new seaso especially with Schumi coming out of retirement(Kinda odd seeing him drive a car other than Ferrari). If the Mercedes, Mclaren and Ferrari cars are fast enough, this season might just be the best one ever. Don't think we've ever had such a high quality field starting an F1 race . |
Re: Any F1 Buffs? by chic2pimp(m): 7:54pm On Mar 12, 2010 |
Beaf:Every F1 season always start with some sort of controversy especially when a team's car appears to be faster than that of it's competitors . What has the FIA council had to say about this controversy? Tbh, I really don't blame teams for complaining considering what happened with Brawn Last season. |
Re: Any F1 Buffs? by Beaf: 10:39pm On Mar 12, 2010 |
chic2pimp: High quality? With lotus, virgin and HRT? No, but I'll say there is there has never been a season that started with so much uncertainty; how tires will be managed, if any teams are sandbagging, how will schumi rank against Alonso, Lewis etc (his team mate, Rosberg, already beat him by half a second in todays practice). The biggest thing I'm waiting to see, is if any cars will run out of fuel. chic2pimp: FIA has okayed it, so everyone must go and build their own versions now. But this will not give McLaren the tremendous advantage Brawn had last year tho. |
Re: Any F1 Buffs? by chic2pimp(m): 12:25am On Mar 13, 2010 |
Beaf:High quality in terms of Drivers. Has a starting grid ever had so many former and reigning world champs? . Add them to the likes of Massa and Vettel who I consider future world champions. It's a shame Kimi has moved to Rallying. Whilst Rosberg has been faster than Schumi during practice(key word), I think Schumi will still get more points over the course of the season cuz unlike rosberg it's been there and done it. P:S I'm also waiting to see if the fuels will run out but I some how don't see it happening |
Re: Any F1 Buffs? by chic2pimp(m): 12:30am On Mar 13, 2010 |
Beaf:For sure, it hasn't given Mclaren the huge advantage Brawn had last year. Brawn were head and shoulders above their nearest opponents and had accumulated a ridiculous amount of points over the the first half of the season that when teams finally made up the advantage, they couldn't still be caught. I don't see that happening this season however I don't blame other teams for being worried. |
Re: Any F1 Buffs? by Beaf: 12:56am On Mar 13, 2010 |
chic2pimp: Yeah, you're right about the driver lineup. There are 3 World champs and some hot young blood. I agree about Massa and Vettel (I have a secret wish for Massa to beat Alonso), Massa should do well this year. Vettel is likely to be hampered by an unreliable car, at least for the first few races. chic2pimp: The other teams seem to have their own tricks and rule benders, lotus have a strange mini wing deck in the middle of their rear wing, Red Bull have adjustable height suspension, its mutual rule stretching. . . so peace might reign |
Re: Any F1 Buffs? by Beaf: 12:09pm On Mar 13, 2010 |
Alonso cames tops in first practise and is currently leading qualifying. |
Re: Any F1 Buffs? by Beaf: 12:10pm On Mar 13, 2010 |
Rosberg is still faster than schumi. |
Re: Any F1 Buffs? by Beaf: 12:11pm On Mar 13, 2010 |
Its Massa, Rosberg, Hamilton currently. Vettel has just gone second. . . And aaaaaaaat last Chandok has turned a wheeel in anger, but he's almost 30 secs of pace. |
Re: Any F1 Buffs? by doyin13(m): 12:17pm On Mar 13, 2010 |
The Ferraris and Mclaren's have this. . . I guess the rumors about Force India were true. They look to have some pace. A bit of an anticlimax with Schumi so far. |
Re: Any F1 Buffs? by doyin13(m): 12:26pm On Mar 13, 2010 |
Probably spoke too soon. Mclaren seem to be struggling for one lap pace. Only sure thing is Ferrari. Vettel in second. Okayyyyyyyy |
Re: Any F1 Buffs? by Beaf: 12:30pm On Mar 13, 2010 |
doyin13: Everything is upside down. Virgin has turned out to be the fastest new team, well against expectations it would be lotus. Exciting times ahead. Unlike last year, there are full seconds between cars, not tenths as it was last season. |
Re: Any F1 Buffs? by Beaf: 12:35pm On Mar 13, 2010 |
My bet is that any of Vettel, Massa, Weber or Alonso will take poll. Button is unlikely to make it into Q3. Correction; Button just squeaked through, there were heads in hands at McLaren when he went out (I might be early with this, but chap boy doesn't have a bright future; he has come to McLaren to die ). |
Re: Any F1 Buffs? by Beaf: 1:03pm On Mar 13, 2010 |
Vettel on poll!!!! Its Vettel, Massa, Alonso. Lewis is 4th, Button 8th. . . . More detailed times to follow. Live Leaderboard Position Country Driver Team 1 Germany S Vettel Red Bull 2 Brazil F Massa Ferrari 3 Spain F Alonso Ferrari 4 Great Britain L Hamilton McLaren 5 Germany N Rosberg Mercedes 6 Australia M Webber Red Bull 7 Germany M Schumacher Mercedes 8 Great Britain J Button McLaren 9 Poland R Kubica Renault 10 Germany A Sutil Force India 11 Brazil R Barrichello Williams 12 Italy V Liuzzi Force India 13 Germany N Hulkenberg Williams 14 Spain P de la Rosa BMW Sauber 15 Switzerland S Buemi Toro Rosso 16 Japan K Kobayashi BMW Sauber 17 Russia V Petrov Renault 18 Spain J Alguersuari Toro Rosso 19 Germany T Glock Virgin 20 Italy J Trulli Lotus 21 Finland H Kovalainen Lotus 22 Brazil L di Grassi Virgin 23 Brazil B Senna Hispania 24 India K Chandhok Hispania |
Re: Any F1 Buffs? by doyin13(m): 1:09pm On Mar 13, 2010 |
Vettel has obviously carried some momentum from last season. Hamilton had the second best drive in an unfavourable car. It will be interesting start tomorrow especially with the Ferarris in 2nd and 3rd. Might get testy if Alonso's antecedents are anything to go by. |
Re: Any F1 Buffs? by Beaf: 1:22pm On Mar 13, 2010 |
doyin13: Its going to be between Massa, Alonso and Hamilton for podium places, Vettels car is both mechanically unreliable and doesn't use tires properly. Tomorrow will be very exciting. |
Re: Any F1 Buffs? by chic2pimp(m): 1:26pm On Mar 13, 2010 |
Dayummm that was a Minor Shock, Vettel on poll doyin13:Oh c'mon give it a rest will ya? The season ain't even a race old yet |
Re: Any F1 Buffs? by Beaf: 2:05pm On Mar 13, 2010 |
chic2pimp: True, we expect him to be back to his cheating old ways in the near future. Anyone remember how he packed sooooooooooo neatly to stop the qualifying session at Monaco and prevent Alonso making strides toward his second World Championship? Damn!
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Re: Any F1 Buffs? by Beaf: 2:56pm On Mar 13, 2010 |
Qualifying times for the top ten 1 S Vettel 1:54.101 2 F Massa 1:54.242 3 F Alonso 1:54.608 4 L Hamilton 1:55.217 5 N Rosberg 1:55.241 6 M Webber 1:55.284 7 M Schumacher 1:55.524 8 J Button 1:55.672 9 R Kubica 1:55.885 10 A Sutil 1:56.309 Okay, I cheated in my last post (thats actually Kimi ), but here's the vid of shumi' incredible racing line parking manoeuvre to sabotage Alonso in 2006. Priceless! [flash=480,385] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blbmZO8Oz7Y&hl=en_GB&fs=1&[/flash] |
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