do we have a reason why only hausas can be National security advisers

what on earth do they know that the SE, SW and SS dont know

shior

Akanbi_edu:

As expected, Dr. Jonathan has done what they normally do- find a scapegoat. And who is the replacement? Gusau. I think we need to have the statistics of the casualty in Jos when he was the NSA under OBJ.

Good point, maybe Jonathan is primarily concerned about personal survival than national survival.

I'm sure this action of Jonathan was based on the advise of his newly formed advisory council

Beaf:

You've said it all. It couldn't be said any clearer.
A lot of us forget that we are living in a country we help create with our actions and utterences. Jonathan is the first Southern minority president, that alone cuts his job out, up till now, it has been a wazobia party. Jonathan who is seen as a stranger (especially by the North - read Hausa / Fulani) must be able to bond with all sections of the country without raising suspicion that he is only out to fight a Southern minority agenda and maroon major ethnicities (again, especially the Hausa / Fulani). He has an extremly delicate job to do.

I have said it numerous times, it is still the same Jonathan that cleared and sacked every living thing that bore the policies of his predecesor in Bayelsa. If he hasn't done the same in Aso Rock, there are good reasons.
Let us not forget that it took OBJ, a military man a full month as unchallenged president before he could make any changes to the military.

. . .But as you pointed out, NL is packed with pseudo-knowledgeable folk who strenuously talk bull. . . You know the drill.

Lets at least give the man some room to breath.

Beaf you are out of line with that statement. The issue at hand is not about a Wazobia party or the fact that Jonathan is an ND man. The issue at hand is not about a power struggle, this issue at hand is about the safety of the Citizens of Nigeria.

It is not about him appointing or sacking anyone .It is the fact that the guy lacks leadership skills; he is playing politics with the lives of Nigerians.

Let me ask you a honest question, if one of those dead people in the pictures of the JOS crisis was a relative of yours, will you still be singing the same tune?

This is not the time to please anyone or try to pretend to please the northerners. The JOS crisis should not be treated in a political manner; it should be treated as a national threat. This is not politics; this is a matter of security.

He should get help from outside, if necessary from XE .Common sense dictates that he should put in a motion to initiate prevention mechanism. A special unit or security agency separate from the police and the SSS should be created to train undercover agents who will pretend to be Mullahs and infiltrate those religious cells.

That is what the acting president should be doing not sacking and appointing “Old Cargos” .A leader leads by example ,a cowards leads by pretence.


Beaf Jonathan is not one of your people ,he does not care what happens to the people of Nigeria.He is simply a politician the same as the other corrupt PDP men.The sooner you put aside your tribal sentiments and join the rest of us the better.

Please NLders, let's understand some basic facts here. This is National Security we are talking about & not just one of the ministry and we have a national security crisis at hand, this is no time time to experiment especially with security matters. You need an experienced hand on the job.

Jonathan does not have much time, he needs result & fast too. I am against the appointment of Danjuma. But Gussau appointment is a step in d right direction at this time.

Also, if Jonathan is thinking of making serious changes among the service chiefs, then he needs an intelligent man like Gusau by his side. Dont forget, this Gusau man and Obj cleansed the military and professionalised it without a single problem. Today is very difficult for military to plan coup, thanks to Obj & Gussau.

Now with Gusau by Jonathan side, Jonathan can now deal/remove any of the non performing ministers or service chiefs without fear of any problem following. So if you can see what am seeing, this is one good intelligent step by Jonathan.

One a** down, more a** 2 b whooped soon, its just that this guy is too slow n dull. Looks like someone somewhere is telling him wat 2 do, i fear 4 d guy

Shoot2Kill:




Beaf you are out of line with that statement. The issue at hand is not about a Wazobia party or the fact that Jonathan is a ND man. The issue at hand is not about a power struggle, this issue at hand is about the safety of the Citizens of Nigeria.

It is not about him appointing or sacking anyone .It is the fact that the guy lacks leadership skills; he is playing politics with the lives of Nigerians.

Let me ask you a honest question, if one of those dead people in the pictures of the JOS was a relative of yours, will you still be singing the same tune?

This is not the time to please anyone or try to pretend to please the northerners. The JOS crisis should not be treated in a political manner; it should be treated as a national threat. This is not politics; this is a mater of security.

He should get help from outside, if necessary from XE .Common sense dictates that he should put in a motion to initiate prevention mechanism. A special unit or security agency separate from the police and the SSS should be created to train undercover agents who will pretend to be Mullahs and infiltrate those religious cells.

That is what the acting president should be doing not sacking and appointing “Old Cargo” .A leader leads by example ,a cowards leads by pretence.

Stop wasting your time on that guy. He has just one agenda on nairaland, to further his ethnic interests. If you have nothing for/or against the ISOKO/ND. Don't bother to discuss anything with him.

its a nice move but jonathan also made a mistake by appointing the one he did cos they are the same people.

hollandis:

jonathan is so daft,can't he act with integrity again?So the jos violence cant be solved ehnnnnnnn

Don't sit there talking like a child. Putting and end to any crisis of such is not as easy as you think.

minus 2 and counting, keep it up Joe

What about Iwu and the other non-performing ministers?

Gusau again?? . Same Toilet different Poo !

I think people should be careful in the choice of your words to public figures such as esteemed as the Acting President of the Federal Republic of a great Nation, NIGERIA. We need to take into Cognizance the number of stumbling blocks, hindrances such as the National Assemblies, FEC, regional power blogs, traditional empires & monarchs, and most destructive body called governors forum in total summation obscuring the efficiency and the proclivity of Goodluck Jonathan as the Nigeria Acting President. We should be ready to sacrifice all to make sure the man with good intentions for this Country is allowed to perform, because from all indication, all corrupt authorities are bent in ensuring that the man will not succeed so that they will not be exposed. Mr. President….Nigerian have confidence in you cleaning up the degenerated, dilapidated and completely corruptible system to an extent. Please do not sub-pedal your driving force in getting the right thing in place, history will recognize you in this generation and beyond! Do not bother about the PDP ticket or not… if GOD is with you, I say no man will stop your progress to any level…, be strong and resolute…

I said it b4 dis is time to siddon look, actions dat are to be taken by Jonathan must be justifiable and justified and for the recordsv Mukhtar was asked to go because of his involvement in bringing in Yaradua without briefing the Ag President. Calm is what we need to see more actions from the wise man Goodluck.

back to square ooooooooooooo?  ? goodluck, are u sure u are the acting president, or na baba aremu, cos u have not did  one positive thing as acting president, are u sure u know what u are doing and what the country needs frm u, as per as am concern u have fail us, cos i see no reason why u are recyling this rats, i believe may  be the are in thesame cult with Gen, gusau, shameless leader's, Dr for Nothing, cos u are not proactive infact u need deliverance,

[b]And your point is?

Many of us seem not to understand the difficult position jonathan finds himself now. When you  have just 4 of the 36 governors on your side(this even excludes percieved southern  progressives like fashola and mimiko), your geopolitical region contributes some of your strongest opposition,you are not from one of the three major tribes,your political party has publicly voiced its unfavourable position,the north sees you as an enemy and has sufficient numbers to pull an impeachment through.


Then you will know that its not just the "aluta" approach that will see you through. When you fight a formidable IBB and traditional elements like the Emir that will come as far as  to make inflamtory comments  on the wrongdoing of the COAS. then you know that having the OBJs,Danjuma and Gusau on your side is not a bad idea afterall.


Jonathan will definitely sack a lot of ministers very soon. The PAC is only a smokescreen , he knows those that have erred and will only validate his desires with a comprehensive report.

This job is a very delicate hence only a fool will bank on support of faceless men here on NL, who show courage only from the comfort of anonymity. The job requires a proper blend of TACT,MIGHT AND MOST IMPORTANTLY MEEKNESS. [/b]

na_so


it seems that you are the only 1 that understanda the dynamics of things up there.

most of these peeps think its as easy as sitting down and issuing orders to who and what not.

for you to be effective as a leader, you have got to consolidate your hold on power POLITICALLY!!!!

if not you would plan and your efforts would be fustrated.



thats why presidents spend years in office fighting battles and people would ask "why is he spending energies on political battles"


if you dont put people that share your views in government, how would you expect your ideas and plan to be succesfully implemented?


by the way, as some1 had rightly pointed out,
1)he and OBJ succesfully put the military in their place (RESTRUCTURING AND RETIRING POTENTIAL THREATS)
2)he has clout especially amongst the hausa/fulani (hegemony) in the military.
3)goodluck needs experienced hands to steady his ship (HENCE DANJUMA ALSO) before he can take any far reaching decisions.


and i bet you that this is the final piece of the puzzle that goodluck needs before he can sack DANBAZZA!!!!

@kobikwelu
Very good and incisive analysis.

Right step but the mistake is that they are still same of same

Pls Jonathan more need to go dont wast time.

tkb417:

do we have a reason why only hausas can be National security advisers

what on earth do they know that the SE, SW and SS dont know

shior

Whoever Controls information (Intelligence)
controls indirectly, the Media, Economy etc
and society subliminally as a whole.

The battles and conflicts since time has
always been that of idea's and information
that carries it.

bisiaet:

Pls Jonathan more need to go dont wast time.

exactly cos no time for political gibberish.

martinosi:

Whoever Controls information (Intelligence)
controls indirectly, the Media, Economy etc
and society subliminally as a whole.

The battles and conflicts since time has
always been that of idea's and information
that carries it.

All these resides with the northerners? Foolish Jonathan, Who the hell is GUsau?

please jonathan do some thing about power in this country not this

Gbawe:
We are not "faceless men who show courage from the comfort of anonymity" . We are the employers of Jonathan and Yar Adua even if those folks and the sycophants who surround them don't remember that fact . What do you suggest Nigerians do ? Shut up and accept all the scheming that has relegated the effective governance of the Nation to the background? In decent nations average citizens should have a significant input in policy direction . It is bad enough the politicians have total disregard and disdain for us but must we average Nigerians view each other as irrelevant also?

Gbawe:
Bro, I noted everything else you wrote. I feel your argument is only legitimate if applied to the needs of Jonathan and other schemers plotting to gain power advantages . It is the wrong argument from the perspective of long suffering Nigerians who have to put up with prehistoric living conditions and the threat of imminent slaughter everyday.

@Gbawe.
First I need to state that i respect your views so much._{Check my vote on the poster of the year on political matters for last year}. I however differ on the issues here.


First we seem to have the same picture of the ideal, desired destination for the Nation, however the process you advocate seem to be undermining the formidability of the enemy. We need to be smart enough to know what is ideal and what is achievable and how. You seem not to appreciate the fact that more often than not if you cant play the politics up there, you cant get the dividends down to the common man.Why ? becuase even as a president there will be no formal backing from the necessary arms of government to see good policies through.



I have learnt a lot here on NL no doubt so I do not want to be drawn into any argument about peoples posts here, but truth be told we are all(most) faceless here on NL, we all  find it very easy to speak our minds and most times exoberantly(I am eqaully culpable so dont get me wrong). How many of us find this same  ease of expression before our bosses at work when they seem to err, like we do here when the president or some minister up there fumbles? selah.


The business here is politics and not just mere emotional outbust. While politicians differ  ideologically as to the dividends to the common man and the very motive for politicking, it remains that in even the most advanced societies credible programs are shot down sometimes. why? simply becuase politics is (and will remain) a game of numbers to serve different interest.


As we speak he is trying  to run the show at the very height of the nation's politcal space with contending tribal,religious,business and personal interests.
The forces against him  can be undone but we must admit they are formidable. My point is that Jonathan seems to be on course. He seems not to have men of his own that would count for much when push comes to shove. So he is trying to use the enemy's men against themselves.Again I ask how can a Jonathan who is a featherweight (politics and military) survive onslaughts from the IBBS, IBORIs , SULTAN etc without getting some seasoned men albeit evil like OBJ and Danjuma on his side? tell me.


Dora submitted the controversial memo that hastened the hesitant NASS to act. Almost everyone applauded her here on NL. Now the CABAL has fought back asking for her resignation. Check the posts here and you will count scores of people who hailed her initially and now eating their words. Besides what good will it do Jonathan if he  has all the support here on NL and do nothing to rally men in "high places" behind him?


  I strongly think he will remove Dambazzau very soon with a more trusted soldier most likely Christian from the middle belt and probably push a hausa-fulani muslim to CNS  or CAS but he seems to be using this Gusau issue to build a case so that when he moves out the COAS , it will easily be explained as a case of national expediency and not necessarily religion,tribe or Yaradua. The task here was to remove MUKTAR which he did . He can even make the present Security adviser less relevant by subtly empowering parallel security details around him. But the point is Muktar is gone and gone for good. Like it or not it is a blow to UMYA camp.


Have you asked why someone like Yayale  and Sule lamido seem to be giving Jonathan some support lately? It is becuase the possibility of a VP slot stares them in the face and makes it easy to use them against certain organized groups. An ambitious Gusau may not be a bad idea afterall. He could be very useful in thwarting the moves of the IBBs to put himself in pole position. He will be taken care of later. This is definitely a better option rather than making a choice that will make it easy for the entire Northern bloc to aggregate energies and fight you.

na_so:

@Gbawe.
First I need to state that i respect your views so much._{Check my vote on the poster of the year on political matters for last year}. I however differ on the issues here.


First we seem to have the same picture of the ideal, desired destination for the Nation, however the process you advocate seem to be undermining the formidability of the enemy. We need to be smart enough to know what is ideal and what is achievable and how. You seem not to appreciate the fact that more often than not if you cant play the politics up there, you cant get the dividends down to the common man.Why ? becuase even as a president there will be no formal backing from the necessary arms of government to see good policies through.



I have learnt a lot here on NL no doubt so I do not want to be drawn into any argument about peoples posts here, but truth be told we are all(most) faceless here on NL, we all  find it very easy to speak our minds and most times exoberantly(I am eqaully culpable so dont get me wrong). How many of us find this same  ease of expression before our bosses at work when they seem to err, like we do here when the president or some minister up there fumbles? selah.


The business here is politics and not just mere emotional outbust. While politicians differ  ideologically as to the dividends to the common man and the very motive for politicking, it remains that in even the most advanced societies credible programs are shot down sometimes. why? simply becuase politics is (and will remain) a game of numbers to serve different interest.


As we speak he is trying  to run the show at the very height of the nation's politcal space with contending tribal,religious,business and personal interests.
The forces against him  can be undone but we must admit they are formidable. My point is that Jonathan seems to be on course. He seems not to have men of his own that would count for much when push comes to shove. So he is trying to use the enemy's men against themselves.Again I ask how can a Jonathan who is a featherweight (politics and military) survive onslaughts from the IBBS, IBORIs , SULTAN etc without getting some seasoned men albeit evil like OBJ and Danjuma on his side? tell me.


Dora submitted the controversial memo that hastened the hesitant NASS to act. Almost everyone applauded her here on NL. Now the CABAL has fought back asking for her resignation. Check the posts here and you will count scores of people who hailed her initially and now eating their words. Besides what good will it do Jonathan if he  has all the support here on NL and do nothing to rally men in "high places" behind him?


  I strongly think he will remove Dambazzau very soon with a more trusted soldier most likely Christian from the middle belt and probably push a hausa-fulani muslim to CNS  or CAS but he seems to be using this Gusau issue to build a case so that when he moves out the COAS , it will easily be explained as a case of national expediency and not necessarily religion,tribe or Yaradua. The task here was to remove MUKTAR which he did . He can even make the present Security adviser less relevant by subtly empowering parallel security details around him. But the point is Muktar is gone and gone for good. Like it or not it is a blow to UMYA camp.


Have you asked why someone like Yayale  and Sule lamido seem to be giving Jonathan some support lately? It is becuase the possibility of a VP slot stares them in the face and makes it easy to use them against certain organized groups. An ambitious Gusau may not be a bad idea afterall. He could be very useful in thwarting the moves of the IBBs to put himself in pole position. He will be taken care of later. This is definitely a better option rather than making a choice that will make it easy for the entire Northern bloc to aggregate energies and fight you.

100% in agreement with the above. Well stated.

bout time

oga     na_so



please tell em'

they tink say na maimai to be up there


politics and leadership goes hand in hand in government.


and only  fool would ignore it and start dishing out directives.

in the end he would be criticized by the same posters urging  him to solve our myriad of problems immediately without advising him to consolidate and make it HIS presidency instead of UMORU's PRESIDENCY.

naivety, is rampart here

@post:

That is a very good news. He needs to sack a lot of incompetent and useless ministers

@post:

That is a very good news. He needs to sack a lot of incompetent and useless ministers

Afam and Kobikwelu. Thanks. I am humbled.

THE ONLY LOGICAL REASON GUSAU WAS REAPPOINTED IS TO PREVENT A COUP. he is a brilliant intelligence officer and everyone knows he did very well under obj keeping the millitary in d barracks. Mukthar cannot be trusted to prevent a coup since his loyalty is clearly with yaradull.
Its not about all these jos crises nonsence. They only used it as a smokescreen.

INTELLIGENT MOVE BY GOODLUCK.

-Adam Aliero
-RUMA next By the time the report on Dam contracts are out, that guy will be looking for a hiding place!

-Do a Ribadu on Ibori and put him behind bars