MikeZA: In front of artillery sits a line of infantry armoured,mechanised and motorised. Any advance towards them means,FACs with binoculars which can "operate" and send a "request for fire" to C2 systems or designate targets more than 20km away with laser. Ever heard about Ratel EAOS?

Palmaria artillery is not advancing alone, you are fighting an army that also has motorized infantry and armoured brigades.......and spy balloons watching all enemy movements. You think in a war, only you will be doing things? Like Iraq thought he was going to kick Iran like a kid ?

Thiza: @AUGUSTUS DOES NIGERIA HAVE ANY FORM OF TRANSPORT RESEMBLING WHAT SOUTH AFRICA HAS.....PLEASE NO DIESEL LOCOMOTIVE THAT WERE USED IN THE LAST CENTURY 1950's AS A MODE OF TRANSPORT

HERE BELOW IS SOUTH AFRICA FAST TRAIN.....TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT THE STATION

My dear brother THIZA we saw photos of the fine electric trains of South Africa you posted yesterday, but you forgot to add this one, so I will help you add it below...enjoy it brother :

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-2613269/South-African-democracy-marks-20th-anniversary.html

PHOTO : SOUTH AFRICAN MODERN 'SUPER TRAINS' IN YEAR 2014. SO CALLED EUROPE OF AFRICA !

[img]http://therealminfo.files./2014/05/overloaded-trains.jpg[/img]

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Mister THIZA, Nigeria is building a $16 Billion train network in different phases, this is the Chinese middle class and transport project. A bigger and more sophisticated project is coming after this, enjoy the video...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQv7tM9nvP0

Thiza: @augustus show us the modern road networks throughout Nigeria as is displayed in the South African map........No country in Africa possess such a sophistication of network and these roads are paved and excellent.....unlike YOUR BUNDU COUNTRY CALLED NIGERIA

THIZA de fotografa, Nigeria has world class cities, watch this video and go to embassy, apply for Nigerian VISA now !


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDyjbHauOQw

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Best MRAP in Africa....Nigeria

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[size=14pt]Nigerian Army Roasts Boko Haram Anti-Aircraft Gun Truck...This is how we move...

Any demon standing on our way...fall down and die ![/size]

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agaugust:

Transfer 10,000 Hamas men out of fenced off Gaza city, to disguise and secretly mix with civilians and live for 5 years inside Israeli cities, then you will see how many Israeli civilians will die
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But it has not happened.

agaugust:

Palmaria artillery is not advancing alone, you are fighting an army that also has motorized infantry and armoured brigades.......and spy balloons watching all enemy movements. You think in a war, only you will be doing things? Like Iraq thought he was going to kick Iran like a kid ?

You don't have any stupid spy baloon. You plamarie are out gunned, your motriced infantry are out gunned by mechnized and your tanks are out gunned by our armoured cars never mind tanks. Most of your army drives around in hilux pick ups.

agaugust:
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Best MRAP in Africa....Nigeria

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Hardly. It still not better than a casspier.

NaijaPikinGidi:

Question to Mike..ZA remains:

Why has SANDF failed to protect your territorial integrity from the threat of Poachers?

Digest this official quote from your Minister, Edna Molewa:

"Illegal rhino killings have spiked from 13 in 2007 to 1 004 last year, steadily increasing despite the deployment of soldiers in the vast nature reserve."

Don't hide under the bed of conservation. #noroomfordeflectioins

There is 1 company plus support elements and a few hundred rangers protecsting the park the size of israle.

agaugust:

Fool !!!!!! Palmaria is a self propelled artillery with full armour protection and speed of a main battle rank, it will simply advance forward and close the range gap of your G-7 artillery in 15 minutes or even less.
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Warfar is not conduct on flat ground. Terrian is a issue.

Moveing to far foward puts them at risk of direct fire or being over run.

Well moveing you can can not shoot but can be shot at.

Henry120:

"Does it change the fact the chinese and americans are the leaders in MRAPs?"......... Nope.

American MRAPs are being given to there plocie, scrapped, left in Astan or being put in storage. They built thousands of them but they not really good for long term use. US MRAPs are heavy, bad off road and suffer from logiscal and maintance issues. Hence so many being scrapped. Those that are good are being gobbeled up by US ploice departments. The really good ones the US army will keep.

China? They had to come learn from SA. Even your big foot needed SA help.

Henry120:

All nato troops have a "personal role radio" issued to every infantry man serving in the field.

There is the "comms guy" who calls for air-support and any other assistance. This is different from the personal role radio issued to all troops.

Wrong- only the Brits use platoon and section nets

The French are trying it with the FELIN system

And South Africa does not have a problem with radios

And JTACs are not comms guys

Henry120:

My point is, multiple other countries manufacture some sort of mine resistant vehicle. Nothing special about them.

We were the first and ours are the most popular in the world

agaugust:

All British Army Soldiers carry one radio each...standard kit.
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Is Britain all of NATO?

agaugust:

Good to see you admit insurgents sneaked and used stealth to beat and damage Israeli army, the best soldiers in the world.

If it was Nigerian army, you will shout incompetence.

Most of the Israeli officers were infantry men that entered inside Gaza and got kill.ed on the streets by Hamas young men.

The Hamas underground hole was discovered and blocked by Israel.

Proves to you civilian insurgency is a tougher enemy than mighty Egypt.

South Africa will crumble if Boko Haram has 1 million hidden members spread all over South Africa living among normal civilians and also working inside SANDF.

I pity you
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Strawman detected

The isrealty army and their infantry are no where near the best in the world

Is this guy seriously comparing part-time conscripts to professional soldiers?

Btw, generally Canada and Britain are considered to have the best infantry in the world

agaugust:

No, the whole Israeli army ran away from Gaza with all jet fighters, missile armed drones, battalions of tanks, artillery and MRAPS....operation failed in about 30 days...Hamas is still f.iring rockets into Israel today.

The best army and air force in this world just performed below Nigerian military. Nigeria will soon start training Israeli officers in COIN war
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The isrealy operation was a success

And they are not the best military in the world

Obvious Strawman is obvious

http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-35838/

Hot pursuit is tacking place in the kruger park. And here is somthing to think about. We still have more Rhinos than the rest of the world put together.

agaugust:

China has overtaken you with Big Foot MRAP

Which has never been battle tested

The Casspir has almost 40 years of proven performance and is one of the most popular MRAPS in the world

NaijaPikinGidi:

Wake up and smell the coffee! Clearly, SANDF is no match for ordinary poachers talkless of BH. I put it to you, everything you have said makes no sense.

SANDF is hardly involved

patches689:

Strawman detected

The isrealty army and their infantry are no where near the best in the world

Is this guy seriously comparing part-time conscripts to professional soldiers?

Btw, generally Canada and Britain are considered to have the best infantry in the world

In the IDF they go fighter pilots, tankers then infantry in terms of importance. They probaly the best fighter pilots in the world and best ground crews. Then the army loves tanks, the merkva is a tough tank to crack and can doubel up as a IFV, they even gave it a 60mm morta.

There infantry main APC is still the M113. Sure they have all those cool heavy APCs but the bulk are still M113s.

agaugust:

ANC freedom fighters were not doing suicide bombings of civilains all over South Africa, and they were not willing to use your fathers and mothers as hostages or human Shields against South Africa's white army.

Meanwhile, your 1980s wars are outdated, this is modern 2014 COIN wars where Boko Haram is fighting Nigeria, Chad, Cameroon at the same time, and ISIS is heading for Baghdad while Iraqi army is collapsing and mighty American air force has been called in to lead air attack.

2014 insurgency is 100 times more powerful than your old school bush runs of 1980.

South Africa is 66 years behind Nigeria in many things, am sure you know that.

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No it's not

Apart from better comms what do insurgents have now that they didn't back then?

agaugust:

My dear brother THIZA we saw photos of the fine electric trains of South Africa you posted yesterday, but you forgot to add this one, so I will help you add it below...enjoy it brother :

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-2613269/South-African-democracy-marks-20th-anniversary.html

PHOTO : SOUTH AFRICAN MODERN 'SUPER TRAINS' IN YEAR 2014. SO CALLED EUROPE OF AFRICA !

[img]http://therealminfo.files./2014/05/overloaded-trains.jpg[/img]

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@AGAUGUST, THROUGHOUT YOUR MISERABLE LIFE NIGERIA WILL NEVER CATCH WITH SA IN TERMS OF INFRASTRUCTURE. THAT TRAIN YOU ARE SHOWING IS A METRO RAIL, SOMETHING WHICH NIGERIA ONLY TRIES TO ACHIEVE NOW ON THE 21st CENTURY. THE SA METRO RAIL NETWORK IS DEVELOPED TO THE LEVEL OF EUROPE. YES!!!!

YOU TELL US ABOUT $16 BILLION PROJECT, SOMETHING WHICH IS VERY SMALL TO THE ONCOMING PROJECT WHICH WILL JOIN JOHANNESBURG TO DURBAN WITH A DISTANCE OF WELL OVER 400 KM APART IN AN UNDERGROUND TUNNEL AND FROM THERE THE PROJECT WILL GO TO CAPETOWN.

THE SA DEVELOPED METRO RAIL NETWORK.

SA METRO RAIL.

NaijaPikinGidi:

Wake up and smell the coffee! Clearly, SANDF is no match for ordinary poachers talkless of BH. I put it to you, everything you have said makes no sense.

POACHERS WONT EVEN DARE TO CHALLENGE SANDF IN A GUN BATTLE AS BH HAS DONE TO YOUR RAG TAG ARMY.

NIGERIA IS STILL A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY AND WILL REMAIN LIKE THAT UNTIL THE NEXT CENTURY WHEN @ NAIJAPIKOHOON AND AGUBUBU ARE NO MORE. ATLEAST, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WITNESS SA PROGRESSING FROM DEVELOPING TO NIC IN MY LIFE TIME AND SURELY MY CHILDREN WILL WITNESS IT WHEN IT BECOMES A FULLY DEVELOPED FIRST WORLD COUNTRY. THAT IS NOT FAR, IT IS ONLY 30 YEARS FROM TODAY.

andrewza:

But it has not happened.

Simply tells you Nigeria and Israel are not facing the same risk level of insurgency. In Nigeria's case, the enemies includes millions of radical extremist and jihadist Nigerian Islamic faithfuls citizens at home inside and all over Nigeria supporting Boko Haram Islamic war against a 'Christian President', Nigerian military also has about 80,000 Islamic faithfuls and some of them jihadists exposing our military operations and plans to Boko Haram. Israeli army does not face this peculiar problem from inside Israel or Israeli army.

Algeria has a similar situation like Nigeria, do you know how many Algerian civilians died from Islamic insurgency? 150,000 innocent men, women, and children in 10 years.....and Algeria has the best equipped military in Africa.

Nigeria strong, very few nations of this world can survive what we have survived, most countries will implode and self-destruct
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FighterPilot:

POACHERS WONT EVEN DARE TO CHALLENGE SANDF IN A GUN BATTLE AS BH HAS DONE TO YOUR RAG TAG ARMY.

The poachers did not need to challenge SANDF is battle, they hardly ever meet face to face, your army and air force was not intelligent enough to find them. SANDF only finds dead and de-horned Rhinos in Kruger park...poacher already escaped to Zimbabwe with your Rhino horns.

patches689:

No it's not

Apart from better comms what do insurgents have now that they didn't back then?

Taliban/Mujahedeen/Al Qaeda modern combat tactics developed against NATO/USA, anti-aircraft guns, anti-tank weapons, civilian kidnappings as human shield, and suicide b.ombings of civilians at random
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patches689:

SANDF is hardly involved

Photos and government reports clearly say SANDF is very involved in anti-poaching war.

patches689:

Which has never been battle tested

The Casspir has almost 40 years of proven performance and is one of the most popular MRAPS in the world

Big Foot MRAP has been battle tested in Nigeria.

agaugust:
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Mister THIZA, Nigeria is building a $16 Billion train network in different phases, this is the Chinese middle class and transport project. A bigger and more sophisticated project is coming after this, enjoy the video...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQv7tM9nvP0




THIZA de fotografa, Nigeria has world class cities, watch this video and go to embassy, apply for Nigerian VISA now !


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDyjbHauOQw

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LIAR!!! LIAR!!!

NIGERIA is still backward as compared to the mighty SA. I have been twice to Nigeria this year in Lagos and Enugu. Nigeria is still 100 years behind and that I bet with my life to South African to visit Nigeria and see for themselves. The peaceful atmosphere that they left behind will be remembered forever.

My father's country of birth is dirty as hell, same as HILLBROW in JHB which has been coined LAGOS by locals because of its dirtiness and infestation by Nigerians.

People do not believe whatever nonsense Agaugust says about the beauty of Nigeria. Their cities might look beautiful from the distance but in a closer look you will be amazed. Their cities lack many facilities which SA companies are only trying to introduce but sadly only in major cities not like in SA where such facilities and amenities are evewhere even in villages.

In Nigeria you will never find ATM in every town or village. ATMs which you can even find in rural settlement in SA are new in Nigeria. MALLS which you even find in small towns in SA are only found in major cities in Nigeria owned SA companies. SA generally is the one that put the whole of Nigeria on track to move with the current times.

My father was even ashamed with the backwardness of Nigeria as compared to SA. Nigeria is way far and far behind SA in terms of developments. What you get in SA is goodbye once you set your foot in Nigeria. The beauty of MZANSI, seeing every morning rubbish bins being collected by municipal workers, sewage, tarred roads, world class hospitals, restaurants, world class theatres and cinemas, sport facilities, clean blue water swimming pools, indoor sports centres, casinos and game centres and many more will all be sadly missed. All that you will see will be mediocrity that they themselves overhype as big.

My cousin was also stubborn thinking that Nigeria is bigger than SA since it had bigger population and was fondly referred to as giant of Africa. Whatever clubs that he would take me to he always thought were the best. My father decided to take him to SA to live with us since he was qualified in pharmacy and his very first step in SA in JHB airport, he happily said this look more like EUROPE.

He got a leanership in one of SA pharmaceutical companies to be trained about SA medicine and was also sent to wits university to be broaden further and was subsequently permanently employed by the same company. Now as we speak he does not want to visit Nigeria anymore and we even hardly see him. His mother and father passed on and that was the last time we saw him in Nigeria attending their funerals but on different occasions since his parents died the same year in 2012.

andrewza:

You don't have any stupid spy baloon. You plamarie are out gunned, your motriced infantry are out gunned by mechnized and your tanks are out gunned by our armoured cars never mind tanks. Most of your army drives around in hilux pick ups.

Nigeria's spy balloon deployment was posted here for the first time June/July, the army revealed some of it's specs and location in the public address, I posted the story here and nobody could challenge it. You were away from this forum for many months. Do you even notice that this nairaland website crashed and thousands of posts were deleted from this thread?

50 Palmaria cannot be out-gunned by 46 G-6 Rhino.

Nigeria has 660 artillery guns against 120 of SANDF, we have 550 tanks against 250 of SANDF....you are the ones who are turned into dwarfs
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