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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ThaVluit: 6:48pm On Oct 01, 2014
agaugust:

Bwhahaha grin

Nigerian navy has capacity to patrol the waters of both South Africa and Egypt at the same time.

In the whole of Africa, only the Nigerian navy has blue water warships that has the range sail completely around the whole continent if Africa without stopping anywhere to refuel, the two ships are NNS Thunder and NNS Okpabana. South African navy Valour frigates CANNOT match those two NN OPVs of Nigeria, SAN frigates will run dry of fuel in Gulf of Guinea and you will soon be begging Nigeria for help.

What you buffoons don't know is that your Valour frigates have fuel to only reach West Africa and return home WITHOUT DOING ANY CIRCULAR PATROL because if your shiny warships try that patrol, they will run out of diesel in Gulf of Guinea and start begging Nigeria for free 50 Litre jerry cans of diesel to go back home.

I am still waiting to see the miracle South African navy will use to patrol West Africa when NONE of her warships or submarines has enough range to travel to up west and return home south without begging for fuel along the journey.....Fake force projection in action....I am waiting for my time to laugh.....South African navy, come up to West Africa I dare you! Na area boys black jerry can we go take dash you fuel and we go put groundnut oil mix am, all ya ship engine go knock for wharf Tin Can at Apapa grin grin grin

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Lol Nigeria patrolling the Mediterranean with their play-play boats. Let's not even worry about Israel, Turkey, Libya, Syria, Egypt, Greece and others. Who the hell are they?

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 7:04pm On Oct 01, 2014
agaugust:

Bwhahaha grin

Nigerian navy has capacity to patrol the waters of both South Africa and Egypt at the same time.

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What you buffoons don't know is that your Valour frigates have fuel to only reach West Africa and return home WITHOUT DOING ANY CIRCULAR PATROL because if your shiny warships try that patrol, they will run out of diesel in Gulf of Guinea and start begging Nigeria for free 50 Litre jerry cans of diesel to go back home.


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SAS Drakensberg.

Can support them,like they didn't when heading to Brazil.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 7:19pm On Oct 01, 2014
PrinxArthur1: you forgot that u have to refuel dude.......

Range means you can travel that much without refueling.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 7:23pm On Oct 01, 2014
MikeZA: Didn't I just read some post where you said "that's a figure of speech".

Now you're using saying "literally gathering dust".
+1000000
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 7:27pm On Oct 01, 2014
Henry120:

The main MOD of this section (foreign affairs) is a South-African.

You got hit by the anti-spam bot. Not a mod.

I don't think so... It's a conspiracy and Imma get to the core of this.

That bloody anti-spam bot must hit abububu, he' spamming this thread with endless fabrications.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 7:30pm On Oct 01, 2014
agaugust:

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Nigerian army Struggling? Phone Hellfire ask 'Shekau' grin


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Shekau was killed by South African mercenaries... watch, the truth will surface.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 7:31pm On Oct 01, 2014
Henry120:

Oga your problem, not mine.

You're the one who were complaining about the Kruger profile.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:33pm On Oct 01, 2014
patches689:

Distance between Lagos and Cape Town: 2955.28 miles

Valour Class range: 8,000 miles

We can sail to Lagos and back, and have 2000 miles to spare... with one tank of fuel

(((((BOOM))))))

Quote source to prove the range of Valour frigate and don't bring any fvcking edited misinformation South Africans put on Wikipedia, give us a military website.....

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 7:38pm On Oct 01, 2014
agaugust:

Quote source to prove the range of Valour frigate and don't bring any fvcking edited misinformation South Africans put on Wikipedia, give us a military website.....

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According to the manufacturer - 7,200 miles
https://www.thyssenkrupp-marinesystems.com/en/blohmvoss-mekor-a-200-class-frigate.html

So thats Lagos and back with 1000 miles to spare, on "one tank"
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:40pm On Oct 01, 2014
MikeZA: SAS Drakensberg.

Can support them,like they didn't when heading to Brazil.

Give us source to prove Valour frigates can be refuelled at sea by SAS Drakenberg and give us prove Valour frigates did not refuel in Brazil before returning home.

Soon Simons town navy base will be empty of warships with this your mis-adventure of patrolling the whole Gulf Of Guinea 12,000 km sea travel to and fro....your Submarine will soon hit sea bottom again grin grin

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 7:42pm On Oct 01, 2014
agaugust:

Give us source to prove Valour frigates can be refuelled at sea by SAS Drakenberg and give us prove Valour frigates did not refuel in Brazil before returning home.

Soon Simons town navy base will be empty of warships with this your mis-adventure of patrolling the whole Gulf Of Guinea 12,000 km sea travel to and fro....your Submarine will soon hit sea bottom again grin grin

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http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/rsa/sas-drakensberg.htm

Whats next.

And btw, its only a 6000 mile round trip.

And we can re-fuel in Angola
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 7:43pm On Oct 01, 2014
agaugust: [size=14pt]

Can you name the 1,000 dead Seleka rebels?


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Name a 1000 dead Boko Haram members.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 7:48pm On Oct 01, 2014
Eish augu is trying hard

But he can find no flaws grin grin grin


Soon a Valour Class frigate will be a daily sight off the Nigerian coast

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 7:57pm On Oct 01, 2014
patches689: Eish augu is trying hard

But he can find no flaws grin grin grin


Soon a Valour Class frigate will be a daily sight off the Nigerian coast

Sadly he won't get to see it, he lives in the "US".

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ThaVluit: 8:15pm On Oct 01, 2014
GreenandGold:
Sadly he won't get to see it, he lives in the "US".

The UF. United Fakes. He's a dreamer. grin

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:31pm On Oct 01, 2014
patches689:
According to the manufacturer - 7,200 miles
https://www.thyssenkrupp-marinesystems.com/en/blohmvoss-mekor-a-200-class-frigate.html

So thats Lagos and back with 1000 miles to spare, on "one tank"


What is "one tank" ? That 7,200 miles range is maximum your ship can sail.


FIRST, your 7,200 miles is ONLY at very slow speed according to your source, means your ship must NEVER speed chase a pirate.

If your ship runs after a pirate to intercept, your tank is now less than 7,200 miles range once you exceed that slow 16 knots speed.

Nigerian navy has had to use 50 knot speed Shaldag gun boats to chase and capture sea pirates because pirates like every other thief/criminal don't stop for you to arrest them ! They run away as fast as possible.

With your compulsory Valour Frigate speed limit of 16 knots snail speed, even Fish will dribble your navy around like school children.

SECOND, that 3,000 mile range Cape Town to Lagos is ONLY along coastline shipping routes, you must NOT sail off that single straight line to intercept a pirate that has snatched ship in the offshore high seas and heading towards Ghana, Brazil, or Europe ! If you try it, your fuel will not take you back home, so you have to beg Nigeria for diesel or do like Angola and beg Nigeria to send ATR-42 Surveyor and NNS Thunder to help you chase the pirates !

I am showing you reality of sea power force projection in maritime patrol of a the massive 5 mllion square kilometres kilometre of ocean waters in the Gulf of Guinea to Namibia that you dream of patrolling with one warship and one submarine and no single aircraft ! Nigerian navy has about 12 long range frigate and corvette size warships plus 2 ATR-42 long range aircraft plus 4 Dornier 228 long range aircraft and 2 space satellites scanning and patrolling that 5 million square kilometres 24 hours every day !

CONCLUSION, South African navy will be calling Nigerian navy and NAF for help when your misguided adventure into West Africa begins, even if you bring the whole of your navy here, you will still beg for diesel like Oliver Twist always asking for more grin grin

Welcome to the difficult world of international long range maritime patrolling and it's technical difficulties and realities, a mission that Mandela's navy is NOT equipped to undertake.....See why Nigeria built a patrolling navy before starting to now build a warfare navy? You buy what you need for survival first, the luxury comes later, simple common sense !


[size=13pt]Nigerian Navy Ocean Interceptor :
Speed Approx 100 km/h..Range Approx 1,500 km on rough sea..High Power Sea Radar[/size]



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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:40pm On Oct 01, 2014
patches689:

And btw, its only a 6000 mile round trip.

We can re-fuel in Angola


I just said it, you have already started begging for diesel grin grin

Nigerian navy does NOT refuel anywhere, we sail the Gulf of Guinea on one tank load only, we have two ships that can sail around the whole African continent without stopping to beg for fuel donation like a car accident victim looking for blood donor at the nearest available hospital.

Now Nigeria is a blue water sailing navy. We see South Africa failing the practical test of force projection....on your knees begging Angola for diesel to save your expensive shiny Valour frigates....Shame Shame Shame !!!

grin grin grin

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 9:05pm On Oct 01, 2014
agaugust:

I just said it, you have already started begging for diesel grin grin

Nigerian navy does NOT refuel anywhere, we sail the Gulf of Guinea on one tank load only, we have two ships that can sail around the whole African continent without stopping to beg for fuel donation like a car accident victim looking for blood donor at the nearest available hospital.

Now Nigeria is a blue water sailing navy. We see South Africa failing the practical test of force projection....on your knees begging Angola for diesel to save your expensive shiny Valour frigates....Shame Shame Shame !!!

grin grin grin

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Kicks of a dying horse. Agububu our shining ships are coming to your coast, take photos.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Centrifude(m): 10:05pm On Oct 01, 2014
Centrifude: The real question that we should be asking here is that, how many soldiers has Nigeria lost to Boko-Haram, since one out side Nigeria know how many, because your army only releases the number B.H fighters killed, what are they hiding, why do civilians and the soldiers say one thing, and then Government official come and deny it.

@agaugust & Henry120 Since you guys know everything, why don't you enlighten us and tell us how many soldiers you've lost in the past 5 years? And please don't give us your personal estimations give us proper numbers and Proof.
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 10:20pm On Oct 01, 2014
agaugust:

Give us source to prove Valour frigates can be refuelled at sea by SAS Drakenberg and give us prove Valour frigates did not refuel in Brazil before returning home.

Soon Simons town navy base will be empty of warships with this your mis-adventure of patrolling the whole Gulf Of Guinea 12,000 km sea travel to and fro....your Submarine will soon hit sea bottom again grin grin

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Listen to your self. cheesy cheesy cheesy grin grin cheesy cheesy grin

Canada,Australia subs have hit sea bottom during exercises.

You're scared of SA subs that bad?

More OPVs are going to be built HERE not THERE!!!!!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:02am On Oct 02, 2014
Centrifude: The real question that we should be asking here is that, how many soldiers has Nigeria lost to Boko-Haram, since one out side Nigeria know how many, because your army only releases the number B.H fighters killed, what are they hiding, why do civilians and the soldiers say one thing, and then Government official come and deny it.

@agaugust & Henry120 Since you guys know everything, why don't you enlighten us and tell us how many soldiers you've lost in the past 5 years? And please don't give us your personal estimations give us proper numbers and Proof.

First of, Nobody knows everything, neither did I claim I knew everything.

On the question, you don't go about printing/posting names of heroic soldiers like they're some filthy statistics on the wall. We don't keep scores with dirty terrorists. We make sure we facilitate their meeting with their maker. No question asked.

This is what is important, Dead soldiers are giving a proper military burial, there Gratuities are paid to their next of kin and the state pays for the eduction of their wards, including free medical care at military and government hospitals.


"Gen. Chris Olukolade @GENOlukolade3d
On Honour for Slain Soldiers: We do give due/befitting burials. Publicity is deliberately downplayed owing to sentiment #VictoryforNigeria"

Nigeria has lost around 400 troops since the start of this insurgency.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:04am On Oct 02, 2014
GreenandGold:

I don't think so... It's a conspiracy and Imma get to the core of this.

That bloody anti-spam bot must hit abububu, he' spamming this thread with endless fabrications.

You should start by first investigating the South-African MOD.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:10am On Oct 02, 2014
GreenandGold:

Name a 1000 dead Boko Haram members.


1. Original Founder of Boko Haram....Mohammed Yussuf
2. Original successor to the founder.....Abubakar Shekau
3. First Imposter of Shekau....Abdullahi Damasak
4. Second Impostor of Shekau....Mustapha Chad
5. Third Impostor of Shekau killed this month....Bashir Mohammed
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10,000+ Many middle rank and junior rank Boko Haram fighters.

Photos are available below.

#ShowUs PhotoAndName 1,000 Seleka Rebels Boko Haram Killed tongue tongue

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 6:31am On Oct 02, 2014
Henry120:

You should start by first investigating the South-African MOD.

Who is that "South-African" mod I do not know about? Give me his username.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 6:33am On Oct 02, 2014
agaugust:

1. Original Founder of Boko Haram....Mohammed Yussuf
2. Original successor to the founder.....Abubakar Shekau
3. First Imposter of Shekau....Abdullahi Damasak
4. Second Impostor of Shekau....Mustapha Chad
5. Third Impostor of Shekau killed this month....Bashir Mohammed
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10,000+ Many middle rank and junior rank Boko Haram fighters.

Photos are available below.

#ShowUs PhotoAndName 1,000 Seleka Rebels Boko Haram Killed tongue tongue

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I wanted a 1000 names, don't give me bull.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 6:35am On Oct 02, 2014
....and abububu stop this thing of posting pictures of deceased humans, its distasteful. sad
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 6:49am On Oct 02, 2014
agaugust:

What is "one tank" ? That 7,200 miles range is maximum your ship can sail.


FIRST, your 7,200 miles is ONLY at very slow speed according to your source, means your ship must NEVER speed chase a pirate.

If your ship runs after a pirate to intercept, your tank is now less than 7,200 miles range once you exceed that slow 16 knots speed.

Nigerian navy has had to use 50 knot speed Shaldag gun boats to chase and capture sea pirates because pirates like every other thief/criminal don't stop for you to arrest them ! They run away as fast as possible.

With your compulsory Valour Frigate speed limit of 16 knots snail speed, even Fish will dribble your navy around like school children.

SECOND, that 3,000 mile range Cape Town to Lagos is ONLY along coastline shipping routes, you must NOT sail off that single straight line to intercept a pirate that has snatched ship in the offshore high seas and heading towards Ghana, Brazil, or Europe ! If you try it, your fuel will not take you back home, so you have to beg Nigeria for diesel or do like Angola and beg Nigeria to send ATR-42 Surveyor and NNS Thunder to help you chase the pirates !

I am showing you reality of sea power force projection in maritime patrol of a the massive 5 mllion square kilometres kilometre of ocean waters in the Gulf of Guinea to Namibia that you dream of patrolling with one warship and one submarine and no single aircraft ! Nigerian navy has about 12 long range frigate and corvette size warships plus 2 ATR-42 long range aircraft plus 4 Dornier 228 long range aircraft and 2 space satellites scanning and patrolling that 5 million square kilometres 24 hours every day !

CONCLUSION, South African navy will be calling Nigerian navy and NAF for help when your misguided adventure into West Africa begins, even if you bring the whole of your navy here, you will still beg for diesel like Oliver Twist always asking for more grin grin

Welcome to the difficult world of international long range maritime patrolling and it's technical difficulties and realities, a mission that Mandela's navy is NOT equipped to undertake.....See why Nigeria built a patrolling navy before starting to now build a warfare navy? You buy what you need for survival first, the luxury comes later, simple common sense !


[size=13pt]Nigerian Navy Ocean Interceptor :
Speed Approx 100 km/h..Range Approx 1,500 km on rough sea..High Power Sea Radar[/size]



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Why is this guy still arguing?

The valour class can sail all the way to Lagos and patrol for 1000miles and then sail home all on one tank of gas

Pirate interceptions will be done with helicopters

Valour class can be refueled by the Drakensberg if need be

This guy, he thinks his opinion can change the facts of the matter

Also - you don't have 12 frigate sized ships
Also- at the end he admits that the Nigerian Navy cannot match the SAN in terms of naval warfare

Augubug and his delusions of grandeur

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 6:50am On Oct 02, 2014
agaugust:

1. Original Founder of Boko Haram....Mohammed Yussuf
2. Original successor to the founder.....Abubakar Shekau
3. First Imposter of Shekau....Abdullahi Damasak
4. Second Impostor of Shekau....Mustapha Chad
5. Third Impostor of Shekau killed this month....Bashir Mohammed
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10,000+ Many middle rank and junior rank Boko Haram fighters.

Photos are available below.

#ShowUs PhotoAndName 1,000 Seleka Rebels Boko Haram Killed tongue tongue

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Posting pictures of dead civilians again?

Still cataloging nigerian army warcrimes?

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 6:54am On Oct 02, 2014
agaugust:

I just said it, you have already started begging for diesel grin grin

Nigerian navy does NOT refuel anywhere, we sail the Gulf of Guinea on one tank load only, we have two ships that can sail around the whole African continent without stopping to beg for fuel donation like a car accident victim looking for blood donor at the nearest available hospital.

Now Nigeria is a blue water sailing navy. We see South Africa failing the practical test of force projection....on your knees begging Angola for diesel to save your expensive shiny Valour frigates....Shame Shame Shame !!!

grin grin grin

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We can patrol the gulf of guenia as well on only one tank of gas - why would we need to beg for diesel?

And it's 2000 miles away from us!!

Btw, Hamilton class is not a warship, it's a gun-boat

You see, we can have 4 frigates and 3 subs aitting off your coast - can you say the same?

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 8:37am On Oct 02, 2014
i said it earlier that nations will come here to learn hjow we did it. now a super power has. it remains south africagrin.

US sends medical experts to
study how Nigeria tamed Ebola


Stunned by the entrance of the Ebola Virus Disease,
EVD, into America, the United States’ Center for
Disease Control and Prevention has despatched its
personnel to study how Nigeria contained the killer
disease.

US health officials are expected in Nigeria which it
claimed had the best practices in combating Ebola
Virus disease which entered into Nigeria through
Liberian born American citizen Mr. Patrick Sawyer
whose index case was reported on July 20, 2014.
Nigeria is expected to officially announce today that the remaining two potential Ebola patients will exit
the 21-day observation period.
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/10/us-sends-medical-experts-study-nigeria-tamed-ebola/

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:55am On Oct 02, 2014
MikeZA: They're building.

Introducing "100" airframes overnight might lead to maintains issues in the near future. Similar to concerns people were raising about Nigeria,that after the war when funding will be redirected to "socio-economic needs".

Such as the rehabilitating process to follow the war in NE. The armed forces will have difficulties,Angola faced the same problems after the civil war.

Chad buying 2 C-27Js opens the door,for an follow on order. As they'll likely be retiring their antonovos.

Like the Egyptians and the C295.

You do have a point.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:57am On Oct 02, 2014
MikeZA: Funding in the 90s? When SA ordered 28 Gripens?

In the 90s when SAAF had more than 40 fighter jets?

In 90s when SAAF had than 20 transport planes.

You can't put an argument,you're now resorting cheap claims.

The Only thing Cheap here is the SAAF with just 10 Half-french helicopters, and a lack of funds for aviation fuel.

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