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Nigeria on United Nations security council temporary seat for new term 2014-2015

http://www.punchng.com/news/nigeria-assumes-membership-of-un-security-council/

Nigeria should become a permanent member of the UN security council and be mandated to oversee the entire sub-saharan Africa

who the cap fits......


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Mike..ZA:


The G6 is the G5 on a OMC chassis. The G5 is not obsolete cause Denel constantly develops it.

The G7 is obsolete? It is Better than all Nigerian howitzers. Nigerian artillery is obsolete excluding the bofors.

firstly, south african G7 artillery is NOT yet in service, it is in development process by DENEL until further notice. FACT !!

now read this, and dont ever make me repeat this post in future, i hate unnecessary repetition, so open your blocked brain before you read.


[size=16pt]Hidden Truth About Nigerian Army Weapons....Unpublished Modernizations And Upgrades[/size]



beegeagle says:
April 7, 2013 at 4:17 pm


Deliveries of the Palmaria artillery, as was the case with Scorpion light tanks, modernised T55s and Vickers Eagle tanks continued until the early 2000 .

first time that I saw this Palmaria at October 1st Parade on TV, nigerian army said it could fire projectiles to a rocket-assisted 50km range.



You might not realise this but our Ministry Of Defense were involved in a £53 million tank and artillery deal with the UK around the 2003-2005 epoch. That artillery haul included the 48 units of Bofors FH-77B variant, after Shagari had ordered the initial 24 units of FH 77A .

It is clear that the outstanding performance of the weapon during the Indo-Pak Kargil War of 1999 probably engendered that leap of faith.


So depending on the time of delivery, some of these systems are more contemporary/current/modernized than others.


Take the Scorpion light tanks, a vehicle which was built to replace the world-famous Saladin AFV. The initial deliveries of Scorpion light tanks had 76mm main guns. The more recent deliveries post-1999 had 90mm guns.

it was also in the early 2000s that Messrs Marshpearl of Ireland came and upgrade 36 units of the fleet of 150 Scorpion light tanks in an in-country upgrade programme right at home in nigeria which also saw the upgrade of 14 units of T-55 tanks which belonged to the initial batch of 50 tanks. But 79 more units of T-55 entered service post-1999 and those are more modern variants.
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Even without these fifty units of Palmaria, Nigerian Army still retain a 2:1 edge in gunnery over the totality of ECOWAS+Chad+Cameroon.


http://beegeagle./2013/04/06/world-exclusive-oto-melara-palmaria-155mm-self-propelled-artillery-of-the-nigerian-army/


year 2000 modernized NATO standard nigerian palmaria artillery is equal to south african G6 Rhino artillery




year 2005 latest version Swedish standard nigerian Bofors F-77 B artillery is the best artillery gun in the whole world, its details and sophistication is in the weblink and video below, anyone who still asks how nigerian artillery finds enemy targets, is a complete mad man who needs spiritual help


http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product2820.html


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaK1jFg8JBE


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Mike..ZA:
Mamba is better than the Cobra and the VBL.

The Ratel is better than the BTR-3U in the African environment,it can even carry water for long "trips".

VBL and Cobra APC carries 20mm cannon, grenade launchers and fitted anti-armour weapons.

Mamba carries only a 12.7mm machine gun.

nigeria has over 500 Cobras and VBLs.

BTR-3U of nigeria is a modern world class IFV produced in year 2001

Ratel of south africa is an out-dated IFV to be replaced by Badger in year 2015, your Ratel was produced in year 1974

as at today, nigerian army has more modern heavy weapons than south african army.

google main heavy weapons of both countries and check their production dates, its unfortunate many nigerians dont even know we have a more modern army than south africa.

in the whole of Africa from Cape Town to Cairo, only Nigerian army has the combination of Cobra/VBL/BTR-3U modern armoured vehicles.

even mighty Egypt and strong Algeria DO NOT have that modern armoured vehicles combination of Nigeria, they only have more numbers of older and less advanced armoured vehicles.

people just have a wrong idea that everything south african is more advanced than other african country's equipment. i proved that wrong.


photos of Cobra APC....na who wan test mighty naija !

agaugust:


you need a very technical and world class counter-combat analysis to knock out that NAF vs SAN simulation on page 806.

https://www.nairaland.com/415620/strongest-military-africa/806


the worst nightmare of modern warships is saturation attack by enemy aircraft that wastes every ship's anti-aircraft missiles, from world war II 1939 to Falkland war 1982, the story has not changed.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUZu8bvxJs4


south africa has no aircraft carrier to give air cover to its warships on high seas. your navy can be defeated away from home.


ordinary words wont win you a war, let me see you fight !

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Our ships are able to protect themselves from aerial attack without a dogfight. Why would they need an aircraft carrier for? Umkhonto missiles are not Roland missile which you can just manuevre easily. It kicks with a speed of a lightning and soon your jets will glow the skies as if is new year festival.

So please do not bring 1945 theory here and think it is still relevant at this era. Your pilots will call for their early graves by thinking such on their minds

Fighter Pilot:

Our ships are able to protect themselves from aerial attack without a dogfight. Why would they need an aircraft carrier for? Umkhonto missiles are not Roland missile which you can just manuevre easily. It kicks with a speed of a lightning and soon your jets will glow the skies as if is new year festival.

i wont repeat page 806 posts. your Umkhonto missile has a very limited altitude of only 10km and CANNOT harm any nigerian F-7 jet or Alpha jet flying at 12km altitude. weapons fight based on their technical limitations not based on the wideness your basket mouth

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Fighter Pilot:


please do not bring 1945 theory here and think it is stilll relevant at this era. Your pilots will call for their early graves by thinking such on their minds

i quoted falklands war of 1982, not just 1945 and i posted the video. it is a modern war and has proved that air power defeats sea power.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUZu8bvxJs4

Ola one:
Ko ni da fun e

ko ye mi o, se bobo yen ti offend iwo ni ?

agaugust:

i wont repeat page 806 posts. your Umkhonto missile has a very limited altitude of only 10km and CANNOT harm any nigerian F-7 jet or Alpha jet flying at 12km altitude. weapons fight based on their technical limitations not based on the wideness your basket mouth

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So, what are your jets going to do at 12 km? Absolutely nothing. Dont you even know that we have umkhonto which can even go beyond that range?

Your jets cannot do anything at 12 km, that you know well.

Mike..ZA:
My Africa brother maybe you read what happened towards the end of Mobuto sese seko's dictator in the DRC. It is not about size.

if a 3 feet short dwarf beats up a 6 feet tall man, the giant is a fool. simple.

Mike..ZA:
Every country has its place. South Africa is above Nigeria. SA's defence industry has for long produced weapons with performance in mind first not towards international sells.

What I'm trying to tell you is that whether Nigeria purchases more advanced weapons without a defence industry to back your military in terms of servicing,maintains,further development of systems and repair. Your country will never be compared militarily to SA.

south african defence industry is only more advanced than nigeria in missiles, howitzer artillery, drones, and MRAPs.

nigerian defence industry has become more advanced than south africa in sea warfare because nigeria is building the first stealth warship built in africa now, along with our biggest naval ship building/dockyard in all africa.

for small arms, light armoured vehicles, spy equipment, we are almost equal as at now.

for advanced heavy weapons, both countries are importers NOT producers

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Mike..ZA:
Nigeria has no stealth vessel the small corvette vessels currently being built won't have larger space to fit deadly weapons. And won't measured up against the valour frigatse.

Nigerian stealth warships Type 056 is still being built and the full weapons are not yet known or disclosed, last month i posted here big news from south african defenseweb and beegeagle that nigeria has changed our stealth warships radars from Chinese to British.

the final selection of weapons on board the nigerian stealth warships are still being worked out, and is classified information until concluded.

for now NNS ARADU Otomat missiles 180km range will sink any warship Valour or Squalor of south african navy.

http://beegeagle./2013/11/21/kelvin-hughes-tactical-navigation-and-situational-awareness-radars-selected-for-the-nigerian-navys-incoming-1800-ton-p18n-stealth-offshore-patrol-vessels-enlarged-derivative-of-the-type-056-corvet/

agaugust:

south african defence industry is only more advanced than nigeria in missiles, howitzer artillery, drones, and MRAPs.

nigerian defence industry has become more advanced than south africa in sea warfare because nigeria is building the first stealth warship built in africa now, along with our biggest naval ship building/dockyard in all africa.

for small arms, light armoured vehicles, spy equipment, we are almost equal as at now.

for advanced heavy weapons, both countries are importers NOT producers

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Nigeria is not even known as weapon manufacturing country. You can never compare it to SA at all. SA is more advanced than Nigeria in weapon industry at every respect from sea, land to air.

SA only import less than 30% of their military hardware, fact!!!

South Africa has a much bigger defence industry than any country in Africa, from private companies to public. We have more than 10 defence industries.

Fighter Pilot:

So, what are your jets going to do at 12 km? Absolutely nothing. Dont you even know that we have umkhonto which can even go beyond that range?

Your jets cannot do anything at 12 km, that you know well.

what i know well is the nightmare for you on page 806.... https://www.nairaland.com/415620/strongest-military-africa/806

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agaugust:
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Nigeria on United Nations security council temporary seat for new term 2014-2015

http://www.punchng.com/news/nigeria-assumes-membership-of-un-security-council/

Nigeria should become a permanent member of the UN security council and be mandated to oversee the entire sub-saharan Africa

who the cap fits......


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Act as an example first by allowing your citizens their absolute rights first by decriminilising gay marriages.

Fighter Pilot:

Nigeria is not even known as weapon manufacturing country. You can never compare it to SA at all. SA is more advanced than Nigeria in weapon industry at every respect from sea, land to air.

SA only import less than 30% of their military hardware, fact!!!

listen dumbo, all the missiles and guided bombs manufactured in south africa, can you fire them without imported European weapon platforms ?

fool

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agaugust:

what i know well is the nightmare for you on page 806.... https://www.nairaland.com/415620/strongest-military-africa/806

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That is just an amateur analysis which will be rejected by your own military academy.

Fighter Pilot:

Act as an example first by allowing your citizens their absolute rights first by decriminilising gay marriages.

according to all the 3 religions of nigeria, christianity, islam, and traditional....homosexuality is a SIN.

south africa is free to copy Europe/America and forget God...your problem not ours...Sodom and Gomorrah !

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Fighter Pilot:

That is just an amateur analysis which will be rejected by your own military academy.

You try and defeat it first by posting your own counter-simulation, you only fight with your mouth. You plastic toy soldier

agaugust:

ko ye mi o, se bobo yen ti offend iwo ni ?

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Mike..ZA:
Every country has its place. South Africa is above Nigeria. SA's defence industry has for long produced weapons with performance in mind first not towards international sells. That's why many weapons that were used in Angola are still being used today and highly effect example being the Husky vehicle. What I'm trying to tell you is that whether Nigeria purchases more advanced weapons without a defence industry to back your military in terms of servicing,maintains,further development of systems and repair. Your country will never be compared militarily to SA.

Guy please just shut up already. Who told you Nigerian military does not service it's weapons andaterials? You are not in a Rambo movie you know!

Thats the problem we have with you south Africans. You are so ignorant and still believe only SA can do it all. Really myopic

You must have missed last year's Nigerian army day when army the army displayed it's artillery, tanks, APC's that were serviced by the army on home soil. (those equipments were deemed un serviceable before then)

The navy is expanding the dock yard to accommodate bigger ships. They have built ships. What makes you think they can't service and maintain them.

The airforce last year serviced about 10 (can't remember) alfa jets, F-7N1 and transport plane (C130) locally by air force engineers.

We also manufacture our light weapons, APC(igirigi and perforce), drones, bombs and grenades.

Stop being under the illusions that only SA has the capacity to maintain it's weapons.

I trully hope you pot belly generals and soldiers are not as dumb as you. Smh

agaugust:

i quoted falklands war of 1982, not just 1945 and i posted the video. it is a modern war and has proved that air power defeats sea power.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUZu8bvxJs4

Yes, 32 years back when electronic warfare defence system was not yet discovered and not as advanced as it is today.

Fighter Pilot:


Yes, 32 years back when electronic warfare defence system was not yet discovered and not as advanced as it is today.

Aircraft electronic warfare too has developed , and Nigeria has the best in Africa with our ATR-42 Surveyor ruling the oceans of Africa from the air.

I wont repeat my post on the new ECM, ESM, and ECCM onboard nigerian air force ATR-42, just came back from Scotland with ELINT upgrade and NATO latest standard....like a mini AWACS, but south africa has NOTHING to challenge our ATR-42 mighty Surveyor in electronic warfare.

http://beegeagle./2013/12/03/nigerian-air-force-alenia-atr-42-500-mpa-surveyor-naf-931-now-a-more-advanced-special-mission-aircraft-undergoes-elint-upgrade-world-exclusive-photo/

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Fighter Pilot: South Africa has a much bigger defence industry than any country in Africa, from private companies to public. We have more than 10 defence industries.

Nigeria too has many defence industries, DICON, AFIT, BADEH AEROSPACE, PROFORCE, NIGERDOCK, and several others

DENEL and ARMCOR themselves dont carry weapons and go to fight war or do they ? manufacturing companies are not soldiers. Lol !!!

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agaugust:

Nigeria too has many defence industries, DICON, AFIT, BADEH AEROSPACE, PROFORCE, NIGERDOCK, and several others

DENEL and ARMCOR themselves dont carry weapons and go to fight war or do they ? manufacturing companies are not soldiers. Lol !!!

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None of the companies you mentioned above is manufacturing weapons on a large scale. SA has over 10 big arms industries which export their weapons on a large scale.

Fighter Pilot:

None of the companies you mentioned above is manufacturing weapons on a large scale.

DICON manufactures tens of thousands of assault rifles, GPMG machine guns, bullet proof vests, Rocket Propelled Grenade Launchers, ammunitions/ordnance, and many hundreds of 81mm Mortar artillery and many hundreds of Amoured personnel Carriers especially STEYR 4K-7FA, they also up-armour and up-gun hundreds of Pinzgauer vehicles.

NIGERDOCK up-guns hundreds of nigerian navy gun boats including our stealth combat catamarans.

nigeria has grown bigger than most nigerians even know, so i dont blame a south african for being ignorant.

Fighter Pilot:

SA has over 10 big arms industries which export their weapons on a large scale.

South African defence industry built only 12 units of Rooivalk helicopters with ZERO export numbers in 25 years, and you exported only 102 units of G6 artillery in 25 years. so how big is your large scale ? like China ?

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Ola one:
yes

@Scipher offended you on this thread/topic or another ?

Mike..ZA:
My Africa brother maybe you read what happened towards the end of Mobuto sese seko's dictator in the DRC. It is not about size.

Really?hmmmmm.... Anyway, who do you think murdered the former intel chief of Rwanda in the SA. Hotel?

Fighter Pilot:

Act as an example first by allowing your citizens their absolute rights first by decriminilising gay marriages.

Sometimes I wonder if you talk from your as5 or your brain has not started grrowing from baby stage.

Do Russia and China permit gay rights? How is that a criteria for being on Security council seat.

Na wa for these SA mofos o.

You gays can keep fvcking yourselves in SA. Nigeria will never in a life time bow to western pressure to allow it.

That's the difference between us.

agaugust:

DICON manufactures tens of thousands of assault rifles, GPMG machine guns, bullet proof vests, Rocket Propelled Grenade Launchers, ammunitions/ordnance, and many hundreds of 81mm Mortar artillery and many hundreds of Amoured personnel Carriers especially STEYR 4K-7FA, they also up-armour and up-gun hundreds of Pinzgauer vehicles.

NIGERDOCK up-guns hundreds of nigerian navy gun boats including our stealth combat catamarans.

nigeria has grown bigger than most nigerians even know, so i dont blame a south african for being ignorant.



South African defence industry built only 12 units of Rooivalk helicopters with ZERO export numbers in 25 years, and you exported only 102 units of G6 artillery in 25 years. so how big is your large scale ? like China ?

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South Africa used to be the top 10 arms exporter in the world according to sipri until now recently. It is still on top 20 arms exporter and where is Nigeria?

The problem is that you only put your focus on Denel products. We have a very big defence industry including the springbok in Nigeria.

Fighter Pilot:

South Africa used to be the top 10 arms exporter in the world according to sipri until now recently. It is still on top 20 arms exporter and where is Nigeria?

The problem is that you only put your focus on Denel products. We have a very big defence industry including the springbok in Nigeria.

south africa was NEVER in the top 10 list of world arms exporters. stop fvcking yourself, it wont make you pregnant


that list of the world's top 20 weapons exporters includes Uzbekistan. what weapons does that country Uzbekistan sell ? Lol !!!

i dont follow tables and list blindly, i use my head. because a white man wrote a list, i wont follow it blindly, i will use my own head too and challenge him. can you show me the weapons Uzbekistan exported ? they are listed number 18 while south africa is number 17 as arms exporters.

the only problem you have with me on this forum is that i use my head a lot

now to the other issues :

nigeria produces weapons on large scale but only for domestic use as at now, i proved that in my post.

south africa exports mostly light and medium vehicles like MRAPs and APCs, even the Badger IFV is imported from Finland.

my point is, DONT OVERATE south africa, you are not as big as you want us to believe. the super powers are the real large scale weapons exporters and south africa CANNOT compete with them. you are a local champion here in Africa, accept it

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