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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GHKWAME1: 8:49am On Jan 04, 2014
Fighter Pilot:

Act as an example first by allowing your citizens their absolute rights first by decriminilising gay marriages.

Sadly, there are people who ignorantly practice a.nal s.ex––i.ntercourse through the a.nus. They confuse the pleasure of
this act with the stupidity of this horrendous practice. I wish they knew of the many disadvantages associated with
this act. Their ignorance comes with a heavy penalty.


First, the anus has a sphincter muscle that enables it to contract and hold or
release faeces during before/during excretion. Continual a.nal s.ex makes this muscle to gradually loose its elasticity,
thereby making it difficult for the a.nus to hold faecal matter, if one wishes to.


Secondly, compare the size of an erected p.enis with the size of regular faeces. It becomes obvious that penetration through the a.nus, places the p.enis right inside the rectum. Now, if you recall your biology, the rectum is the “collection-centre” of faeces before it passes it out when the individual is pressed. If the rectum had faeces at that time, anal sex is simply penis grease and rubbing on faeces! Is
that what you call fun?


Thirdly, sex in the v.agina cavity is made possible by lots of lubrication secreted by the woman; else friction would make this activity very painful and strenuous. Women, who do not properly lubricate for emotional, physiological, medical or spiritual reasons, will find s.ex unbearable.
Now, imagine this, the a.nus has little or no lubrication! It is primarily an exit point, not an entry point! Why are you
trying to change the natural use of the body?


Fourthly, the lining of the rectum is not as robust as the lining of the v.agina (imagine that the v.agina can expand for the passage of a baby, but very “tough” faeces can’t pass through the anus). This makes the anus more susceptible to tears and continual s.ex in this region, would lead to tearing, no matter how careful one is.
This in turn makes it easier to get infected.


Fifth, if the anus or rectum does get torn, it does not heal as quickly, because it is a “wet” region and easily breeds more bacteria. The a.nus is never completely clean even after a bath. Its susceptibility to infections and such lining tears may lead to other problems such as anal abscess or fistula, which can make transmission of STIs and HIV more likely.


Finally, if the man pulls his p.enis out of the a.nus, and then has v.aginal intercourse, he is basically just transferring faeces from the a.nus to the
woman's vulva or v.agina – or bladder. So in the name of love and tighter intercourse, he is donating infections and diseases to his lover.
And you are allowing all these? ......... This aint about Rights BRO!

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 9:24am On Jan 04, 2014
agaugust:


south africa was NEVER in the top 10 list of world arms exporters. stop fvcking yourself, it wont make you pregnant grin


that list of the world's top 20 weapons exporters includes Uzbekistan. what weapons does that country Uzbekistan sell ? Lol !!!


i dont follow tables and list blindly, i use my head. because a white man wrote a list, i wont follow it blindly, i will use my own head too and challenge him. can you show me the weapons Uzbekistan exported ? they are listed number 18 while south africa is number 17 as arms exporters.

the only problem you have with me on this forum is that i use my head a lot grin

now to the other issues :

nigeria produces weapons on large scale but only for domestic use as at now, i proved that in my post.

south africa exports mostly light and medium vehicles like MRAPs and APCs, even the Badger IFV is imported from Finland.

my point is, DONT OVERATE south africa, you are not as big as you want us to believe. the super powers are the real large scale weapons exporters and south africa CANNOT compete with them. you are a local champion here in Africa, accept it grin

.

South Africa was once in top 10, believe it or not. Here on the link below it stands at no: 17.

http://www.sipri.org/googlemaps/2013_of_at_top_20_exp_map.html


Now tell us where is Nigeria?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 9:30am On Jan 04, 2014
GH^KWAME:

Sadly, there are people who ignorantly practice a.nal s.ex––i.ntercourse through the a.nus. They confuse the pleasure of
this act with the stupidity of this horrendous practice. I wish they knew of the many disadvantages associated with
this act. Their ignorance comes with a heavy penalty.


First, the anus has a sphincter muscle that enables it to contract and hold or
release faeces during before/during excretion. Continual a.nal s.ex makes this muscle to gradually loose its elasticity,
thereby making it difficult for the a.nus to hold faecal matter, if one wishes to.


Secondly, compare the size of an erected p.enis with the size of regular faeces. It becomes obvious that penetration through the a.nus, places the p.enis right inside the rectum. Now, if you recall your biology, the rectum is the “collection-centre” of faeces before it passes it out when the individual is pressed. If the rectum had faeces at that time, anal sex is simply penis grease and rubbing on faeces! Is
that what you call fun?


Thirdly, sex in the v.agina cavity is made possible by lots of lubrication secreted by the woman; else friction would make this activity very painful and strenuous. Women, who do not properly lubricate for emotional, physiological, medical or spiritual reasons, will find s.ex unbearable.
Now, imagine this, the a.nus has little or no lubrication! It is primarily an exit point, not an entry point! Why are you
trying to change the natural use of the body?


Fourthly, the lining of the rectum is not as robust as the lining of the v.agina (imagine that the v.agina can expand for the passage of a baby, but very “tough” faeces can’t pass through the anus). This makes the anus more susceptible to tears and continual s.ex in this region, would lead to tearing, no matter how careful one is.
This in turn makes it easier to get infected.


Fifth, if the anus or rectum does get torn, it does not heal as quickly, because it is a “wet” region and easily breeds more bacteria. The a.nus is never completely clean even after a bath. Its susceptibility to infections and such lining tears may lead to other problems such as anal abscess or fistula, which can make transmission of STIs and HIV more likely.


Finally, if the man pulls his p.enis out of the a.nus, and then has v.aginal intercourse, he is basically just transferring faeces from the a.nus to the
woman's vulva or v.agina – or bladder. So in the name of love and tighter intercourse, he is donating infections and diseases to his lover.
And you are allowing all these? ......... This aint about Rights BRO!

UN support gay marriages , thus you must do what the Romans do in order to assume a permanent seat in security council.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 9:46am On Jan 04, 2014
agaugust:

i wont repeat page 806 posts. your Umkhonto missile has a very limited altitude of only 10km and CANNOT harm any nigerian F-7 jet or Alpha jet flying at 12km altitude. weapons fight based on their technical limitations not based on the wideness your basket mouth

.


Beware, Umkhonto has many varients, from Mk1, Mk2, ER (extended range), etc
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 9:55am On Jan 04, 2014
Fighter Pilot:

UN support gay marriages , thus you must do what the Romans do in order to assume a permanent seat in security council.

You still haven't answered my question.

Do Russia and China support gay rights? What does it have to do with the security council or being an influencial member of the UN? Do you have a brain at all?

We are not SA that cannot stand it's ground to reject western pressure to endorse gay rights. Cos majority of south Africans are still against it. Period

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 10:01am On Jan 04, 2014
Fighter Pilot:

South Africa was once in top 10, believe it or not. Here on the link below it stands at no: 17.

http://www.sipri.org/googlemaps/2013_of_at_top_20_exp_map.html


Now tell us where is Nigeria?

So because we don't export means we don't manufacture in large quantity? I still doubt that you are a soldier.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 10:34am On Jan 04, 2014
chris365:

So because we don't export means we don't manufacture in large quantity? I still doubt that you are a soldier.

Yes, correct. Thats basic, if you do not export there is no reason why you should manufacture on a large scale.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 10:36am On Jan 04, 2014
chris365:

You still haven't answered my question.

Do Russia and China support gay rights? What does it have to do with the security council or being an influencial member of the UN? Do you have a brain at all?

We are not SA that cannot stand it's ground to reject western pressure to endorse gay rights. Cos majority of south Africans are still against it. Period

Russia and China do not put people in Jail for being gays and they do recognise same-sex activities in pivate.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:46am On Jan 04, 2014
Fighter Pilot:

Yes, correct. Thats basic, if you do not export there is no reason why you should manufacture on a large scale.

nigerian army is 3 times the size of south african army, and we are always busy in one war or the other for the past 25 years

.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 11:01am On Jan 04, 2014
agaugust:
nigerian army is 3 times the size of south african army, and we are always busy in one war or the other for the past 25 years
.

And still expanding. Nigerian Army is about to set up it's 7th Division in the South South region (Niger Delta) Which will have full spectrum of amphibious warfare.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/01/fg-establish-9000-strong-army-division-ssouth/
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GHKWAME1: 11:10am On Jan 04, 2014
Fighter Pilot:

UN support gay marriages , thus you must do what the Romans do in order to assume a permanent seat in security council.
Does China and Russia(who are both on the permanent seats of the security council) support gay marriages?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 11:12am On Jan 04, 2014
rka1:
And still expanding. Nigerian Army is about to set up it's 7th Division in the South South region (Niger Delta) Which will have full spectrum of amphibious warfare.
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/01/fg-establish-9000-strong-army-division-ssouth/

Large military but still with poor resouces, poor salaries, poor education, poor organisation, small military budget, etc.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 11:14am On Jan 04, 2014
GH^KWAME:
Does China and Russia(who are both on the permanent seats of the security council) support gay marriages?

Russia, yes decriminilised it in 1993 and China recognise same-same activities. They do not put them in jail like in Nigeria and even sentence them to death.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Fynline(m): 11:14am On Jan 04, 2014
“The Managing Director/CEO, Proforce Limited, Mr. Adetokunbo Ogundeyin, says the new automotive policy recently introduced by the Federal Government is the best decision for the nation’s economy now. In this interview with AkinTUNDE Akinwale, Ogundeyin also explained why his company went into armoured vehicles production and the recent partnership with the Defence Industries Corporation of Nigeria (DICON). Excerpts.

Why did you go for the production of armoured vehicles?
What has happened over the years is that the level of insecurity is on a very high level. When you look at armed robbery, you will see that it is on a very high level. I happened to be in Kuwait sometime ago, and people were looking for a company that would partner them, to market their products, and at that particular moment, it dawned on me that I did not want to be a go-between; I wanted to be a manufacturer. So we teamed up with some Colombians to set up Proforce in 2008. That was actually how we started the company. And the reason we founded the company, like I said, was due to the high level of insecurity in the country and all over the world. Nigeria is not isolated on this, because when you look at it, the same thing is happening in many countries across the world.

Why did you not go for importing?
Due to my passion for innovation and my training as an engineer, I do not believe that trading is the way forward. We engineers believe that trading does not build up the economy of any country but innovative manufacturing and application of latest technology. Manufacturing is the heartbeat of any economy and without manufacturing that economy will be stagnant and potentially collapse under external global market pressures. Trading is just a short-term engagement. Manufacturing is long-term, and the more companies you have manufacturing, the greater the foundation of the economy of that country because of the jobs and wealth created. So, that was why we went into manufacturing and, of course, it gives me so much joy and pride because by manufacturing, we design and build our products; and this is done by Nigerians thereby developing expertise and capacity. We are creating jobs for Nigerians. We are saving for the country a lot of foreign exchange and are even earning foreign exchange for the country by exporting. You can imagine the amount of joy you have when you see your products in other countries all over the world and it is made in Nigeria. It enhances Nigeria’s good image all over the world.

But, then apart from that, when you are talking about defence, in Africa, it is only South Africa that has gone into this type of business, and we believe that we can do better. We believe that Nigerians have what it takes. We believe that Nigerians are intelligent and hardworking; Nigerians are focused and forward thinking; they know how to go about things. They are very sharp thinkers. So we believe that by the time we tap into these great qualities of Nigerians, we should be able to produce better products than what they make in South Africa, and we are on the way. We are on our way, because when you look at the level of patronage and the level of confidence that is being built in a lot of our clients that approach us, you will agree with me. They can see the vehicles that are built abroad; they can see the quality of things done abroad. They can see that Nigeria has been used as a dumping ground, and when they see what we are doing and the quality of the finish, they are impressed. We are gradually building confidence in a lot people. Our quality control department is doing a great job in that respect. I thank most of the people working there, because it is a collective effort to project Nigeria as the number one defence products manufacturing country in the world.

But some people think that Nigeria is not investment -friendly, due to policy inconsistency, which has resulted in many companies folding up…
About policies that keep on changing, it is not only in Nigeria that this happens. It is all over the world that it happens. What we have tried to do is that we try to run a very lean organization. Number two is that we practice the Jugaad management method. In the Jugaad method, we don’t waste money. We are not top-heavy at all, and we spend a lot of money on training and on research and development. That is the core of any business concern.
Yes, a lot of companies have folded up, but a lot of these companies wasted a lot of money by being top heavy and lacking basic efficiency practices. They wasted money on other things. We have plugged all such holes, and what we have also done is that we try to run the place with minimal overheads, because when you start producing volume, then you can make your money, and it will sustain you.

What exactly do you produce in your Ode Remo plant, and can the quality standard be compared with similar products elsewhere in the world?
We make a lot of tactical vehicles, cash-in-transit vans; infantry combat vehicles, armoured patrol boats, Unmanned Arial Vehicles (UAV’s) and architectural armouring. We are now putting together a prototype military tank. Majority of these vehicles are second to none when you look at the quality. We have brought in expatriates that have a combined 70 years experience in armoring, and these are people who were the top guys where they were working before. They have transferred the technology to Nigerians who are coming up seriously fast. In fact, we have a couple armoured personnel carriers (APCs) that the Nigerian team put together and when you look at the quality of the finish, you can match it in quality with the APC’s the expatriate team made.

So, gradually, what is happening is that the Nigerians are taking over, and one day the expatriates will leave it to Nigerians. But I can assure you that our products are just as good as all the products that are imported into Nigeria. Moreover, all we defence products manufacturers import raw materials from the same select group of companies such as glass from the same world leading Armoured Glass company in Peru. Likewise, we all import steel from the same company. The type of welding we do is mig-welding – the expertise of welding two ballistic metals together. If there is a joint, there could be a weak area. So we have perfected the mig-welding because of the presence of the expatriates that we have around, who have transferred that technology to the Nigerians.

We have independently tested most of the different parts. They are all tested in ballistic laboratories in Germany and we are putting together a process of taking the vehicle as a whole for testing in Germany too. Apart from that, even the drive of most of our vehicles is different; because of our environment, the suspensions are made to suit our roads. We test some of these vehicles on our roads. We test some of these vehicles on our test track. We are putting up a mega test-track, but for now, the vehicles are tested on the test track we have. Some of the vehicles are amphibious going through deep waters. We are putting together a military tank that is combat-ready.

What is your recent MoU with the Defence Industries Corporation of Nigeria (DICON) all about?
We signed an MoU (memorandum of understanding) with DICON to build a lot of military APCs in their Bauchi plant. The Bauchi plant has been comatose for years. I think it was built over 20 years, and not much has happened there. So, they want us to make use of it on a PPP (public private partnership) basis and start building military tanks. Just as we are building here, we will be building over there too. Nothing is as good as that, because what it means is that the country as a whole will now look inward. I can tell you one thing: No army anywhere in the world goes out to fight without having its own equipment built in its own country, because if you are unlucky to have your equipment built in a country where an aggression is coming from, then you are in trouble. So, you are to have your own home-grown equipment, not equipment being built by one country and supplied to you. No. We have more than enough expertise to build these things here. We are building them in Ode- Remo. You need to go there and see what we are doing there.

So, we don’t need any expatriate to say they want to come and start building anything again for us. Many countries have realized that Proforce is number one, that Proforce is on the move. At the rate at which we are going, we will overtake a lot of countries within a short time, and that is the drive we have.

You once tested your APC with policemen on board as shots were being fired with AK 47. Was there any incident, and how did the vehicle perform?



See more here http://beegeagle./2014/01/02/nigerian-army-to-set-up-another-new-division-in-the-niger-delta/

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GHKWAME1: 11:18am On Jan 04, 2014
Fighter Pilot:

Russia and China do not put people in Jail for being gays and they do recognise same-sex activities in pivate.


Gay And ‘Pro-Gay’ Athletes, Tourists Will Face Arrest At Sochi 2014 Winter Olympics


China Arrest Gay Activists During Idaho Events



Fighter Pilot:


Russia, yes decriminilised it in 1993
and China recognise same-same
activities. They do not put them in jail
like in Nigeria and even sentence them
to death.

How do you explain the above links then?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 11:20am On Jan 04, 2014
Fynline: “The Managing Director/CEO, Proforce Limited, Mr. Adetokunbo Ogundeyin, says the new automotive policy recently introduced by the Federal Government is the best decision for the nation’s economy now. In this interview with AkinTUNDE Akinwale, Ogundeyin also explained why his company went into armoured vehicles production and the recent partnership with the Defence Industries Corporation of Nigeria (DICON). Excerpts.

Why did you go for the production of armoured vehicles?
What has happened over the years is that the level of insecurity is on a very high level. When you look at armed robbery, you will see that it is on a very high level. I happened to be in Kuwait sometime ago, and people were looking for a company that would partner them, to market their products, and at that particular moment, it dawned on me that I did not want to be a go-between; I wanted to be a manufacturer. So we teamed up with some Colombians to set up Proforce in 2008. That was actually how we started the company. And the reason we founded the company, like I said, was due to the high level of insecurity in the country and all over the world. Nigeria is not isolated on this, because when you look at it, the same thing is happening in many countries across the world.

Why did you not go for importing?
Due to my passion for innovation and my training as an engineer, I do not believe that trading is the way forward. We engineers believe that trading does not build up the economy of any country but innovative manufacturing and application of latest technology. Manufacturing is the heartbeat of any economy and without manufacturing that economy will be stagnant and potentially collapse under external global market pressures. Trading is just a short-term engagement. Manufacturing is long-term, and the more companies you have manufacturing, the greater the foundation of the economy of that country because of the jobs and wealth created. So, that was why we went into manufacturing and, of course, it gives me so much joy and pride because by manufacturing, we design and build our products; and this is done by Nigerians thereby developing expertise and capacity. We are creating jobs for Nigerians. We are saving for the country a lot of foreign exchange and are even earning foreign exchange for the country by exporting. You can imagine the amount of joy you have when you see your products in other countries all over the world and it is made in Nigeria. It enhances Nigeria’s good image all over the world.

But, then apart from that, when you are talking about defence, in Africa, it is only South Africa that has gone into this type of business, and we believe that we can do better. We believe that Nigerians have what it takes. We believe that Nigerians are intelligent and hardworking; Nigerians are focused and forward thinking; they know how to go about things. They are very sharp thinkers. So we believe that by the time we tap into these great qualities of Nigerians, we should be able to produce better products than what they make in South Africa, and we are on the way. We are on our way, because when you look at the level of patronage and the level of confidence that is being built in a lot of our clients that approach us, you will agree with me. They can see the vehicles that are built abroad; they can see the quality of things done abroad. They can see that Nigeria has been used as a dumping ground, and when they see what we are doing and the quality of the finish, they are impressed. We are gradually building confidence in a lot people. Our quality control department is doing a great job in that respect. I thank most of the people working there, because it is a collective effort to project Nigeria as the number one defence products manufacturing country in the world.

But some people think that Nigeria is not investment -friendly, due to policy inconsistency, which has resulted in many companies folding up…
About policies that keep on changing, it is not only in Nigeria that this happens. It is all over the world that it happens. What we have tried to do is that we try to run a very lean organization. Number two is that we practice the Jugaad management method. In the Jugaad method, we don’t waste money. We are not top-heavy at all, and we spend a lot of money on training and on research and development. That is the core of any business concern.
Yes, a lot of companies have folded up, but a lot of these companies wasted a lot of money by being top heavy and lacking basic efficiency practices. They wasted money on other things. We have plugged all such holes, and what we have also done is that we try to run the place with minimal overheads, because when you start producing volume, then you can make your money, and it will sustain you.

What exactly do you produce in your Ode Remo plant, and can the quality standard be compared with similar products elsewhere in the world?
We make a lot of tactical vehicles, cash-in-transit vans; infantry combat vehicles, armoured patrol boats, Unmanned Arial Vehicles (UAV’s) and architectural armouring. We are now putting together a prototype military tank. Majority of these vehicles are second to none when you look at the quality. We have brought in expatriates that have a combined 70 years experience in armoring, and these are people who were the top guys where they were working before. They have transferred the technology to Nigerians who are coming up seriously fast. In fact, we have a couple armoured personnel carriers (APCs) that the Nigerian team put together and when you look at the quality of the finish, you can match it in quality with the APC’s the expatriate team made.

So, gradually, what is happening is that the Nigerians are taking over, and one day the expatriates will leave it to Nigerians. But I can assure you that our products are just as good as all the products that are imported into Nigeria. Moreover, all we defence products manufacturers import raw materials from the same select group of companies such as glass from the same world leading Armoured Glass company in Peru. Likewise, we all import steel from the same company. The type of welding we do is mig-welding – the expertise of welding two ballistic metals together. If there is a joint, there could be a weak area. So we have perfected the mig-welding because of the presence of the expatriates that we have around, who have transferred that technology to the Nigerians.

We have independently tested most of the different parts. They are all tested in ballistic laboratories in Germany and we are putting together a process of taking the vehicle as a whole for testing in Germany too. Apart from that, even the drive of most of our vehicles is different; because of our environment, the suspensions are made to suit our roads. We test some of these vehicles on our roads. We test some of these vehicles on our test track. We are putting up a mega test-track, but for now, the vehicles are tested on the test track we have. Some of the vehicles are amphibious going through deep waters. We are putting together a military tank that is combat-ready.

What is your recent MoU with the Defence Industries Corporation of Nigeria (DICON) all about?
We signed an MoU (memorandum of understanding) with DICON to build a lot of military APCs in their Bauchi plant. The Bauchi plant has been comatose for years. I think it was built over 20 years, and not much has happened there. So, they want us to make use of it on a PPP (public private partnership) basis and start building military tanks. Just as we are building here, we will be building over there too. Nothing is as good as that, because what it means is that the country as a whole will now look inward. I can tell you one thing: No army anywhere in the world goes out to fight without having its own equipment built in its own country, because if you are unlucky to have your equipment built in a country where an aggression is coming from, then you are in trouble. So, you are to have your own home-grown equipment, not equipment being built by one country and supplied to you. No. We have more than enough expertise to build these things here. We are building them in Ode- Remo. You need to go there and see what we are doing there.

So, we don’t need any expatriate to say they want to come and start building anything again for us. Many countries have realized that Proforce is number one, that Proforce is on the move. At the rate at which we are going, we will overtake a lot of countries within a short time, and that is the drive we have.

You once tested your APC with policemen on board as shots were being fired with AK 47. Was there any incident, and how did the vehicle perform?



See more here http://beegeagle./2014/01/02/nigerian-army-to-set-up-another-new-division-in-the-niger-delta/

Nigeria is not industrialised and is just a baby compared to SA in terms of any Industry, be it Auto-mobile and defence.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 11:23am On Jan 04, 2014
Can South Africa help Nigeria to industrialise?

http://www.ipsnews.net/2013/05/can-south-africa-help-nigeria-to-industrialise/

Pres Jonathan during his visit to SA, he asked South African business men to help Nigeria develop its industry. Shame!!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 11:29am On Jan 04, 2014
Can SA ever help his hapless brother Nigeria to industrialise?

http://m.polity.org.za/article/can-south-africa-help-nigeria-to-industrialise-december-2013-2013-12-04

South Africans let us help our ailing brother, Nigeria.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:39am On Jan 04, 2014
Fynline:


interview on will be of some interest sir: “The Managing Director/CEO, Proforce Limited, Mr. Adetokunbo Ogundeyin, says the new automotive policy recently introduced by the Federal Government is the best decision for the nation’s economy now. In this interview with AkinTUNDE Akinwale, Ogundeyin also explained why his company went into armoured vehicles production and the recent partnership with the Defence Industries Corporation of Nigeria (DICON). Excerpts.

What exactly do you produce in your Ode Remo plant, and can the quality standard be compared with similar products elsewhere in the world?
We make a lot of tactical vehicles, cash-in-transit vans; infantry combat vehicles, armoured patrol boats, Unmanned Arial Vehicles (UAV’s) and architectural armouring.

We are now putting together a prototype military tank. Majority of these vehicles are second to none when you look at the quality. We have brought in expatriates that have a combined 70 years experience in armoring
, and these are people who were the top guys where they were working before.


They have transferred the technology to Nigerians who are coming up seriously fast.
In fact, we have a couple armoured personnel carriers (APCs) that the Nigerian team put together and when you look at the quality of the finish, you can match it in quality with the APC’s the expatriate team made.

So, gradually, what is happening is that the Nigerians are taking over, and one day the expatriates will leave it to Nigerians. But I can assure you that our products are just as good as all the products that are imported into Nigeria. Moreover, all we defence products manufacturers import raw materials from the same select group of companies such as glass from the same world leading Armoured Glass company in Peru. Likewise, we all import steel from the same company. The type of welding we do is mig-welding – the expertise of welding two ballistic metals together. If there is a joint, there could be a weak area. So we have perfected the mig-welding because of the presence of the expatriates that we have around, who have transferred that technology to the Nigerians.

We have independently tested most of the different parts. They are all tested in ballistic laboratories in Germany and we are putting together a process of taking the vehicle as a whole for testing in Germany too.


Apart from that, even the drive of most of our vehicles is different; because of our environment, the suspensions are made to suit our roads. We test some of these vehicles on our roads. We test some of these vehicles on our test track. We are putting up a mega test-track, but for now, the vehicles are tested on the test track we have. Some of the vehicles are amphibious going through deep waters. We are putting together a military tank that is combat-ready.

What is your recent MoU with the Defence Industries Corporation of Nigeria (DICON) all about?

We signed an MoU (memorandum of understanding) with DICON to build a lot of military APCs in their Bauchi plant. The Bauchi plant has been comatose for years. I think it was built over 20 years, and not much has happened there. So, they want us to make use of it on a PPP (public private partnership) basis and start building military tanks. Just as we are building here, we will be building over there too.
So, we don’t need any expatriate to say they want to come and start building anything again for us.

Many countries have realized that Proforce is number one, that Proforce is on the move.At the rate at which we are going, we will overtake a lot of countries within a short time, and that is the drive we have.


http://beegeagle./2014/01/02/nigerian-army-to-set-up-another-new-division-in-the-niger-delta/

now this is a happy 2014 news from nigeria, we are building our own battle tanks soon !


nigerian APC by proforce. now naija's main battle tanks are coming up soon.

[img]http://beegeagle.files./2013/07/wp_001371.jpg[/img]

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:45am On Jan 04, 2014
Fighter Pilot:

Russia and China do not put people in Jail for being gays and they do recognise same-sex activities in pivate.

Listen guy, nigeria does not put people in jail for been gay. The bill( not yet law) on gay marriage is not for been gay, but "gay marriage". I mean, why would a grown man be fvcking another grown man in his anus. 98% of nigerians refuse to see a grown man passionately kissing another grown man in public.

Besides, lesbians in south-africa get rap.ed repeatedly by your illiterate male population, with a belief that the rap.e would make them change their sexual orientation. Savagery!!!!


Now, if the west wants nigeria to legalise "faggism", the west should also legalise polygamy.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 11:54am On Jan 04, 2014
Fighter Pilot:

Large military but still with poor resouces, poor salaries, poor education, poor organisation, small military budget, etc.

Continue to wallow in ignorance about what you know nothing about.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 11:55am On Jan 04, 2014
Henry120:
Listen guy, nigeria does not put people in jail for been gay. The bill( not yet law) on gay marriage is not for been gay, but "gay marriage". I mean, why would a grown man be fvcking another grown man in his anus. 98% of nigerians refuse to see a grown man passionately kissing another grown man in public.
Besides, lesbians in south-africa get rap.ed repeatedly by your illiterate male population, with a belief that the rap.e would make them change their sexual orientation. Savagery!!!!
Now, if the west wants nigeria to legalise "faggism", the west should also legalise polygamy.


Still Nigeria is harsh when it comes to Gays andd lesbians.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:55am On Jan 04, 2014
Fighter Pilot: Can SA ever help his hapless brother Nigeria to industrialise?

http://m.polity.org.za/article/can-south-africa-help-nigeria-to-industrialise-december-2013-2013-12-04

South Africans let us help our ailing brother, Nigeria.

ah ! buffoon, sit down there brother, naija is just playing south africa.

since we are smarter than you are, we just manipulate you anyhow we like.

read your own source again, and i will add this for you...

1. south africa too does NOT produce any commercial vehicle like nigeria, BMW, FORD, etc just set up factories in south africa.

2. nigeria too has just signed deal with TOYOTA, NISSAN and FORD to open full factories in nigeria from now and to make nigeria number one in africa.


"Oct 9 (Reuters) - The Renault-Nissan Alliance and West African conglomerate Stallion Group have signed a preliminary agreement to start vehicle assembly in Nigeria and potentially create a major Nissan manufacturing hub for Africa."


http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/09/nissan-stallion-idUSL6N0HZ0W020131009


"As a part of the project, Nissan will expand Stallion’s facility in Lagos, aiming at annual production capacity of 45,000 vehicles, involving a range of cars including light duty trucks, pickups and vans.

It is believed the first car, probably a Nissan patrol SUV, will leave the Nigerian production line in the march of 2014."

http://eandt.theiet.org/news/2013/oct/nigeria-nissan.cfm


3. nigeria has a chinese company prodcuing cars already in nigeria, new factory opened.

4. Innoson company has been producing vehicles in nigeria and they built the airframe for nigerian Gulma drone

http://afripol.org/afripol/item/176-president-jonathan-opens-first-private-car-plant-in-nigeria.html


be joking and fooling yourself, nigeria has now overtaken south africa in GPD as the new largest economy in africa.

nigeria just overtook south africa in cement production as new top ranking in africa


"Nigeria has beaten South Africa as the biggest cement manufacturer in sub-Saharan Africa (SSA), making it the third-largest in the broader Middle East, only lagging behind Egypt and Saudi Arabia, a 2013 research by Renaissance Capital has revealed.

Nigeria’s current industry capacity surpassed the 20mn tpa mark, reaching 28mnt, well above South Africa’s production of 18.3 metric tonnes per annum (tpa)."

naija is beating soweto blue black and you are laughing, fool, better go wake up, ko tete lo soji, soji bobo...wake up !

how many will i write ? nigeria is rapidly overtaking south africa in everything except HIV AIDS and R.APE

http://www.pearltrees.com/#/N-fa=5138372&N-s=1_5169556&N-u=1_646769&N-p=96927406&N-f=1_5169556&N-play=2


Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 11:56am On Jan 04, 2014
Fighter Pilot: Can South Africa help Nigeria to industrialise?

http://www.ipsnews.net/2013/05/can-south-africa-help-nigeria-to-industrialise/

Pres Jonathan during his visit to SA, he asked South African business men to help Nigeria develop its industry. Shame!!

Aren't other countries helping South Africa develope it's industries or are you saying SA is fully industralised?

In this way, we will surpass you by getting investments from all over the world as well as developing local talent.

As I said, continue to wallow on your ignorance.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 12:00pm On Jan 04, 2014
rka1:

Continue to wallow in ignorance about what you know nothing about.

That is the truth my friend, or do you want me to go on details about every point starting with your budget and end with poor salaries and equipments.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 12:08pm On Jan 04, 2014
agaugust:
ah ! buffoon, sit down there brother, naija is just playing south africa.
since we are smarter than you are, we just manipulate you anyhow we like.
read your own source again, and i will add this for you...
1. south africa too does NOT produce any commercial vehicle like nigeria, BMW, FORD, etc just set up factories in south africa.
2. nigeria too has just signed deal with TOYOTA, NISSAN and FORD to open full factories in nigeria from now and to make nigeria number one in africa.
"Oct 9 (Reuters) - The Renault-Nissan Alliance and West African conglomerate Stallion Group have signed a preliminary agreement to start vehicle assembly in Nigeria and potentially create a major Nissan manufacturing hub for Africa."
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/09/nissan-stallion-idUSL6N0HZ0W020131009
"As a part of the project, Nissan will expand Stallion’s facility in Lagos, aiming at annual production capacity of 45,000 vehicles, involving a range of cars including light duty trucks, pickups and vans.
It is believed the first car, probably a Nissan patrol SUV, will leave the Nigerian production line in the march of 2014."
http://eandt.theiet.org/news/2013/oct/nigeria-nissan.cfm
3. nigeria has a chinese company prodcuing cars already in nigeria, new factory opened.
4. Innoson company has been producing vehicles in nigeria and they built the airframe for nigerian Gulma drone
http://afripol.org/afripol/item/176-president-jonathan-opens-first-private-car-plant-in-nigeria.html
be joking and fooling yourself, nigeria has now overtaken south africa in GPD as the new largest economy in africa.
nigeria just overtook south africa in cement production as new top ranking in africa
"Nigeria has beaten South Africa as the biggest cement manufacturer in sub-Saharan Africa (SSA), making it the third-largest in the broader Middle East, only lagging behind Egypt and Saudi Arabia, a 2013 research by Renaissance Capital has revealed.
Nigeria’s current industry capacity surpassed the 20mn tpa mark, reaching 28mnt, well above South Africa’s production of 18.3 metric tonnes per annum (tpa)."
naija is beating soweto blue black and you are laughing, fool, better go wake up, ko tete lo soji, soji bobo...wake up !
how many will i write ? nigeria is rapidly overtaking south africa in everything except HIV AIDS and R.APE
http://www.pearltrees.com/#/N-fa=5138372&N-s=1_5169556&N-u=1_646769&N-p=96927406&N-f=1_5169556&N-play=2

What matters the most is SA is industrialised and Nigeria which is smarter by your words is not. Fact!!!!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 12:18pm On Jan 04, 2014
homerac7:

mr doofus, did Cuba produce the weapons they used in pounding you at your own backyard? Keep hating, olodo
Cuba and the soviet union lost a lot of equipment in Angola. Comparing the weapons used in Angola South African made weapons were superior to Russian made. SA is the cause why Russia started to develop its own HMD systems. How long did it take Nigeria to defeat Biafra? Which had a small army of 30 000 compared to Nigerian troops which numbered in their hundred thousands. Infect Biafra inflicted heavy loses on Nigeria..................Cuba and Angola received military aid from Russia.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 12:20pm On Jan 04, 2014
agaugust:

Ordinary Seleka 1965 vintage firepower intimidated south african army to leave CAR and never return again.

Your navy should have refused to leave Ivory Coast and wait for a visit by NNS ARADU's Otomat anti-ship missile with 180km super long range

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Your NNS Arandu would've been sunk by a torpedo.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 12:22pm On Jan 04, 2014
Fighter Pilot:

That is the truth my friend, or do you want me to go on details about every point starting with your budget and end with poor salaries and equipments.

Please feel free. You are not privy to what is going on in the armed forces regarding re-arming, up-arming and expansion. Do you think all purchases come from the allocated defence budget? Keep deceiving yourself, it doesn't matter how many newspaper articles you paste here, the evidence is on the ground and happening whether you acknowledge it or not.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 12:32pm On Jan 04, 2014
agaugust: .



firstly, south african G7 artillery is NOT yet in service, it is in development process by DENEL until further notice. FACT !!

now read this, and dont ever make me repeat. this post in future, i hate unnecessary repetition, so open your blocked brain before you read.


[size=16pt]Hidden Truth About Nigerian Army Weapons....Unpublished Modernizations And Upgrades[/size]



beegeagle says:
April 7, 2013 at 4:17 pm


Deliveries of the Palmaria artillery, as was the case with Scorpion light tanks, modernised T55s and Vickers Eagle tanks continued until the early 2000
.

first time that I saw this Palmaria at October 1st Parade on TV, nigerian army said it could fire projectiles to a rocket-assisted 50km range.



You might not realise this but our Ministry Of Defense were involved in a £53 million tank and artillery deal with the UK around the 2003-2005 epoch. That artillery haul included the 48 units of Bofors FH-77B variant, after Shagari had ordered the initial 24 units of FH 77A
.

It is clear that the outstanding performance of the weapon during the Indo-Pak Kargil War of 1999 probably engendered that leap of faith.


So depending on the time of delivery, some of these systems are more contemporary/current/modernized than others.



Take the Scorpion light tanks, a vehicle which was built to replace the world-famous Saladin AFV. The initial deliveries of Scorpion light tanks had 76mm main guns. The more recent deliveries post-1999 had 90mm guns.

it was also in the early 2000s that Messrs Marshpearl of Ireland came and upgrade 36 units of the fleet of 150 Scorpion light tanks in an in-country upgrade programme right at home in nigeria which also saw the upgrade of 14 units of T-55 tanks which belonged to the initial batch of 50 tanks. But 79 more units of T-55 entered service post-1999 and those are more modern variants.
.


Even without these fifty units of Palmaria, Nigerian Army still retain a 2:1 edge in gunnery over the totality of ECOWAS+Chad+Cameroon.


http://beegeagle./2013/04/06/world-exclusive-oto-melara-palmaria-155mm-self-propelled-artillery-of-the-nigerian-army/


year 2000 modernized NATO standard nigerian palmaria artillery is equal to south african G6 Rhino artillery




year 2005 latest version Swedish standard nigerian Bofors F-77 B artillery is the best artillery gun in the whole world, its details and sophistication is in the weblink and video below, anyone who still asks how nigerian artillery finds enemy targets, is a complete mad man who needs spiritual help


http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product2820.html


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaK1jFg8JBE


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Sorry but the fact is: The SANDF has already received the AMLAGC(G7 prototype). You want me to post pictures of it with the SANDF again!!!........NATO standards doesn't mean your palmaria is any close to the G6: We can compare its 1.Firing Range 2.Range 3. Performance in combat 4. How fit it is to the African environment(can it carry food and water for long distances without stopping to get supplies).....Don't even talk about T-55 tanks cause SA uses them for training and destroyed a lot in combat.....Your Bofors FH-77 can barely/match take on the G5 MK3 not bringing up the G5-2000.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 12:45pm On Jan 04, 2014
agaugust:

VBL and Cobra APC carries 20mm cannon, grenade launchers and fitted anti-armour weapons.

Mamba carries only a 12.7mm machine gun.

nigeria has over 500 Cobras and VBLs.

BTR-3U of nigeria is a modern world class IFV produced in year 2001

Ratel of south africa is an out-dated IFV to be replaced by Badger in year 2015, your Ratel was produced in year 1974

as at today, nigerian army has more modern heavy weapons than south african army.


google main heavy weapons of both countries and check their production dates, its unfortunate many nigerians dont even know we have a more modern army than south africa.

in the whole of Africa from Cape Town to Cairo, only Nigerian army has the combination of Cobra/VBL/BTR-3U modern armoured vehicles.

even mighty Egypt and strong Algeria DO NOT have that modern armoured vehicles combination of Nigeria, they only have more numbers of older and less advanced armoured vehicles.

people just have a wrong idea that everything south african is more advanced than other african country's equipment. i proved that wrong.


photos of Cobra APC....na who wan test mighty naija !

You're a fool to compare how vehicles are better than the other by what weapon systems they're mounting on their roof tops. Everything from the 20mm(different models are available),grenade launchers(Y3 grenade launcher) and ATGM(would be the Igwe missile in SA) can be mounted on the Mamba. Countries or armies choose that. Your BTR-3U is just a further development of existing technology,which South Africa has always been exposed to. Nigeria purchases old weapons that are further developed from the F7 jets,BTR-3Us to the type 90 AA guns ..... The South African army already has 5 prototypes of the Badger infantry vehicle.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 12:45pm On Jan 04, 2014
The article below was culled from a beegeagle blogger, but there was no link;

Security forces raid Boko Haram
camps in Borno forests
JANUARY 4, 2014 BY FIDELIS SORIWEI
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JTF
| credits: File copy
The Nigerian military is carrying out
sustained ground and aerial raids on
camps of members of the Boko Haram
sect in Borno State.
Investigations on Thursday revealed
that the special forces had cleaned out
several camps of the insurgents in the
Sambisa forest in the state.
A security source who confided in our
correspondent said that the operation
was one of the biggest since the
escalation of the activities of the Boko
Haram in the North Eastern part of the
country.
It was gathered that the security forces
started the operation in the early hours
of December 31, 2013, as a
preemptive action against the
insurgents who were said to have been
engrossed with plans to launch
multiple attacks on the Borno State
Capital, Maiduguri.
It was learnt that the ongoing
operation involved heavy deployment
of ground troops and Nigerian Air Force
helicopters and fighter jets.
Our correspondent learnt that several
high caliber artillery weapons were
deployed in the face-off with the
insurgents.
The source said that artillery weapons
were deployed in such large numbers
because of the calibre of weapons at
the disposal of the insurgents and
their audacious attacks on military
formations recently.

As at the time of filing this story, the
operation to flush out the insurgents
from the forests of the State was still
ongoing.
The source said that scores of
insurgents had been killed in the
sustained ground and aerial offensive,
even though, the source could not put
a figure to the number of the dead.
The current operation is one of the
several operations carried out by the
Special Forces in combating the
insurgents in the country.
The Special Forces had carried out a
major ground and aerial operation on
the camps of the insurgents at the
vast Sambisa Forest in May, 2013
which resulted in the destruction of the
camps and the seizure of arms and
ammunition from the insurgents.

Several people were also killed in the
operation. Investigations, however,
revealed that the Special
Forces commenced the recent
operation following the discovery that
the insurgents were still operating
from camps in the heart of the long
forest.
The Special Forces were said to have
discovered that the insurgents planted
mines deep into the forest for the
Nigerian troops.
It was said that the current operation
was meant to ensure that no such
camps were left in the forest.
Prior to this operation, the Nigerian
Security operatives foiled what would
have been a major Boko Haram attack
on Maiduguri, on Tuesday, December
31, a day to the New Year.

Investigations revealed that the
Special Forces arrested 10 of the
insurgents and killed one other in the
operation.
The security operatives are also said
to be on the trail of 18 other
insurgents who were said to be
attempting to flee Maiduguri.
A security source had said on Tuesday
that the insurgents dispatched a 30-
man team to carry out surveillance
activities on strategic places in the
state to counter a planned attack on
the city on New Year’s Eve.
According to the source, luck ran out
on the insurgents when one of the
operatives on the spy mission was
apprehended at the park of the Borno
Express Transport Company by the
drivers of the transport firm who
suspected his unusual conduct.

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