Henry120:

On more than 4 occasions I responded to the multiple lies and misinformation you freely perpetuated on this thread, and in each of them I got hit with a ban.

Instead you to desist, you're back telling more fairy tales.

Nigeria operates sub-saharan Africa's most advanced ISR platform. The Gripen on the other hand is not a surveillance platform. It is a light weight fighter aircraft, which you corrupt government acquired with loans you aren't done paying, a contract that has seen your former president called to defend himself against corruption allegations.


SA(retirement home/limousine service)NDF has no drones in service. Quit posting that image.

On more than 4 occasions I responded to the multiple lies and misinformation you freely perpetuated on this thread,

followed by:

Nigeria operates sub-saharan Africa's most advanced ISR platform. The Gripen on the other hand is not a surveillance platform. It is a light weight fighter aircraft, which you corrupt government acquired with loans you aren't done paying, a contract that has seen your former president called to defend himself against corruption allegations.


#Irony

Allow me to debunk this mindless drivel

1. No you dont
2. Yes it is when it is configured for that role - it can observe and target
3. The last payment end in 2018, the last Gripen was delivered in 2011. We spent $ 4 Billion. Your president needs to beg for just $ 1 Billion to spend
4. Thats what happens in open and free countries - there is this word called accountability
4a. He was called to give evidence
4b. No fraud or corruption apart from the minor influence of Tony Yengeni has ever been found

Henry120:

Nuff said on this D.Ata l.inks issue.

The nigerian military possesses data links capability. We it practically used in the rescue of two vessels, one off the coast of Angola, the other in ghana.

We also continue to see this capability during the yearly exercise obangame.

We have also seen the ground control/analysis center, the military's situation room.

We haven't seen this capability been deployed by the SANDF or even written.

The nigerian military possesses data links capability. We it practically used in the rescue of two vessels, one off the coast of Angola, the other in ghana.

Limited to only a handfull of assets

The entire SANDF is integrated

#NoComparison

Henry120:

Have you seen Syrian Army up-graded T-72's take a beating in the syrian civil war? An Upgraded T-72 is a great tank.


1. Why would nigeria need a Half-french helicopter, which you don't even want ( you only got 10 of them), when we got MI-35M's.

No sane person would trade an MI-35M for a half-french helicopter.

2. You have no patria IFV's in SANDF.

3. We got both BTR-3U's and Sagaie AFVs

4. Our Palmaria artillery system is one of the best howitzer's in the world.

5. We got up-graded T-72's in service. Your Olifant is a museum relic.

6. MGLs, AGLs, we have tons of those in actual service, not photo-shoots. Actual service.

7. SSG-69 and Dragunov sniper rifles are amongst the best sniper rifles in the world.

The rest of your gibberish...... Just as usual.

1. Why would nigeria need a Half-french helicopter, which you don't even want ( you only got 10 of them), when we got MI-35M's.

- Combat in Goma has shown the Rooivalk is superior to the Mi-35
- The MoD announced that they want to acquire more Rooivalk
- The Defense Review calls for more Rooivalk

2. You have no patria IFV's in SANDF.

In 13 months we will - and you have absolutely no comparison.

3. We got both BTR-3U's and Sagaie AFVs

Which are inferior as I have already shown.

4. Our Palmaria artillery system is one of the best howitzer's in the world.

Completely inferior to the G6 and G5 in every way.

5. We got up-graded T-72's in service. Your Olifant is a museum relic.

No you dont, and the Oifant Mk2 is one of the most advanced MBT's in Africa - certainly more advanced than a T-72 (Remember Kids: the T-72 is literally the WORST TANK IN THE WORLD)

6. MGLs, AGLs, we have tons of those in actual service, not photo-shoots. Actual service.

"tons in actual service"

And yet the only evidence you have to support this a ONE picture of one fixed on a boat? Lol, every single SANDF weapons platoon has Y-3 AGLS and every single rifle section in the entire SANDF has Milkor MGL's

7. SSG-69 and Dragunov sniper rifles are amongst the best sniper rifles in the world.

And neither compare to the NTW-20. The NTW-20 is in the record books, the SSG-69 and Dragunov are not

The rest of your gibberish...... Just as usual.

The rest is FACT, just because you cannot handlle the FACTS doesnt make it gibberish

[size=15pt]And the best part is that i listed THINGS MADE IN SOUTH AFRICA ONLY!! [/size]

Henry120:

Stop spewing multiple gibberish.

I've shown you practical uses of nigerian Data links. You shown us nothing.

So you tell us, how nigerian ATR's are able to share information with ships at sea?

Lool .

Nigeria has no standard data links

Pathetic.

Northern African Arab countries, Nigeria and South Africa may have decent, modernized and sophiscated military hardwares but it's never about having toys but being loyal, have the courage and the confidence as you know strategic/tactic is always important.

No matter what gears you have, it doesn't count as being the strongest army in the world. The recent example could be the collapse of Mosul months ago where you have an army with two of the strongest backer (Russia/US) who spent billion dollars on military in this hand and some guys with propelled rocket launchers, 4x4 and guns on the other hand yet the second largest city of Iraq fell into ISIS hand. Why? Because they're organized, experienced and focus more strategically. Same goes to Afghanistan and Vietnam.

patches689:

The nigerian military possesses data links capability. We it practically used in the rescue of two vessels, one off the coast of Angola, the other in ghana.

Limited to only a handfull of assets

The entire SANDF is integrated

#NoComparison

Nigeria has more surveillance assets than your retirement home defence force can dream of.

We've seen data links used in many real life situations (I gave examples), aslo during multiple military exercises we carry out yearly (obangame, winds and majepo et al).

Your imaginary data links only exists in the minds of your SAloanNDF. I'm very sure you guys believe in "unicorns" and "big foot".


SAloanNDF have no data links. It doesn't exist in that retirement home defence force.

patches689:

On more than 4 occasions I responded to the multiple lies and misinformation you freely perpetuated on this thread,

followed by:

Nigeria operates sub-saharan Africa's most advanced ISR platform. The Gripen on the other hand is not a surveillance platform. It is a light weight fighter aircraft, which you corrupt government acquired with loans you aren't done paying, a contract that has seen your former president called to defend himself against corruption allegations.


#Irony

Allow me to debunk this mindless drivel

1. No you dont
2. Yes it is when it is configured for that role - it can observe and target
3. The last payment end in 2018, the last Gripen was delivered in 2011. We spent $ 4 Billion. Your president needs to beg for just $ 1 Billion to spend
4. Thats what happens in open and free countries - there is this word called accountability
4a. He was called to give evidence
4b. No fraud or corruption apart from the minor influence of Tony Yengeni has ever been found

You fraudulently acquired military equipments, you

1) Don't have the money to pay for

2) Don't have the expertise to fly

3) Too broke to maintain

4) the SANDF has the oldest infantry troops in the world, lacking the skill, ethos and motivation required of a military.


Your own defence minister(God bless her heart) has this to say about the retirement home

"Mapisa-Nqakula - stated unambiguously that the SANDF was in a state of decline characterised by force imbalance between capabilities, ageing technology, and unaffordability of many of its main operating systems."




Your defence force is none other than a hollywood, photo snapping limousine service/ retirement home.

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[size=16pt]Chief Of Air Force For South Africa Close To Tears....

Want's Nigerian Air Force's Beechcraft ISTAR Aircraft....

Confesses SANDF/SAAF Is 66 Years Far Behind NAF !!

http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/article/international-developments-drive-the-saafs-needs-for-new-aircraft-2011-05-27 [/size]


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[size=14pt]NAF the ISTAR warfare masters over SAAF

PHOTO : Nigerian air force Beechcraft Day/Night Combat Spy Master of ISTAR warfare that South African air force is weeping many tears to have....but they have to wait till year 2080....

Nigeria is 66 years ahead of South Africa today... 2014 + 66 = 2080... [/size]

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agaugust: .
[size=14pt]NAF the ISTAR warfare masters over SAAF

PHOTO : Nigerian air force Beechcraft Day/Night Combat Spy Master of ISTAR warfare that South African air force is weeping many tears to have....but they have to wait till year 2080....

Nigeria is 66 years ahead of South Africa today... 2014 + 66 = 2080... [/size]

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We ordered 6 of them.


Let these south-africans show us news sources outside beegeagle's blog that have reported this deliveries.

Not SIPRI, not IHS janes, not one of them.

How many of them reported the deliveries of hundreds of MRAPs and Streit MK3's...... Again, not one of them.

Infact, Defence IQ's armoured vehicle's conference had to quote beegeagle.

Henry120:

We ordered 6 of them.


Let these south-africans show us news sources outside beegeagle's blog that have reported this deliveries.

Not SIPRI, not IHS janes, not one of them.

How many of them reported the deliveries of hundreds of MRAPs and Streit MK3's...... Again, not one of them.

Infact, Defence IQ's armoured vehicle's conference had to quote beegeagle.

Well spoken Oga

agaugust:

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[size=16pt]Chief Of Air Force For South Africa Close To Tears....

Want's Nigerian Air Force's Beechcraft ISTAR Aircraft....

Confesses SANDF/SAAF Is 66 Years Far Behind NAF !!

http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/article/international-developments-drive-the-saafs-needs-for-new-aircraft-2011-05-27 [/size]

Lieutenant General Carlo Gagiano retired in 2010. Stop lying.

South Africa will be getting airborne command and control AEW&C planes looool

MikeZA: Lieutenant General Carlo Gagiano retired in 2010. Stop lying.

South Africa will be getting airborne command and control AEW&C planes looool

No, you this mumu, Lt.Gen Gagiano retired in 2012, my source says he confessed in 2011. Should I teach you South African military history?

http://www.saairforce.co.za/news-and-events/1110/new-chief-of-the-saaf-appointed

Since 2011 that SAAF chief cried out in tears, this is 2014 and SANDF has NOT bought the Nigerian type of Beechcraft ISTAR that the man was weeping for, you remain 66 years behind Nigerian air force...many tears in Soweto

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Henry120:

I got nothing against Kenya. However, kenya is getting no Merkava tanks from Israel.

You sound like these Russians discussing our Havocs!

How the hell can 3rd world massively corrupt African tribal civil war torn *****hole have the money to buy more than a dozen state-of-the-art attack helicopters while a supposedly developing for the better European country like Bulgaria struggle to find the money to keep even half of its airforce airworthy?

http://www.russiadefence.net/t2593-16-mi-28n-for-kenya
Its very easy,too easy to talk isht on the net. What will you do when photos are provided?

Henry120:

Nigeria has more surveillance assets than your retirement home defence force can dream of.

We've seen data links used in many real life situations (I gave examples), aslo during multiple military exercises we carry out yearly (obangame, winds and majepo et al).

Your imaginary data links only exists in the minds of your SAloanNDF. I'm very sure you guys believe in "unicorns" and "big foot".


SAloanNDF have no data links. It doesn't exist in that retirement home defence force.

No one disputes that.

Yes,Nigeria like most defense forces has data links. But that's where it ends.

You don't have MIL-STD data links like NATO Link 11,16,22 and SA's Link-ZA.

But whatever I never expect a Beegeagles blogger to understand Combat Net Interoperability Standard (CNIS).

All SANDF communication systems are made to be compatible with Link-ZA,it is mandatory.

It cuts the decision making process shorter. Example say an aircraft strayed into a SANDF no fly zone,the Defence minister will receive real time info about the situation. While engaging the air defense chief,giving him/her and generals options on whether to use jets or GBADS to intercept or shot down.

Henry120:

Nigeria has more surveillance assets than your retirement home defence force can dream of.

We've seen data links used in many real life situations (I gave examples), aslo during multiple military exercises we carry out yearly (obangame, winds and majepo et al).

Your imaginary data links only exists in the minds of your SAloanNDF. I'm very sure you guys believe in "unicorns" and "big foot".


SAloanNDF have no data links. It doesn't exist in that retirement home defence force.

You love making how about we compare?

Henry120:

Nuff said on this D.Ata l.inks issue.

The nigerian military possesses data links capability. We it practically used in the rescue of two vessels, one off the coast of Angola, the other in ghana.

We also continue to see this capability during the yearly exercise obangame.

We have also seen the ground control/analysis center, the military's situation room.

We haven't seen this capability been deployed by the SANDF or even written.

Your claims are childish mate.

The USA,Russia,China etc and in Africa,South Africa are still developing for fitting sensors on helmets linked with data links to command centers to show "where are my men","where are my artillery guns situated" etc

Even Hitle...,Churchill and others had war time operational centres.

Henry120:

Have you seen Syrian Army up-graded T-72's take a beating in the syrian civil war? An Upgraded T-72 is a great tank.


1. Why would nigeria need a Half-french helicopter, which you don't even want ( you only got 10 of them), when we got MI-35M's.

No sane person would trade an MI-35M for a half-french helicopter.

2. You have no patria IFV's in SANDF.

3. We got both BTR-3U's and Sagaie AFVs

4. Our Palmaria artillery system is one of the best howitzer's in the world.

5. We got up-graded T-72's in service. Your Olifant is a museum relic.

6. MGLs, AGLs, we have tons of those in actual service, not photo-shoots. Actual service.

7. SSG-69 and Dragunov sniper rifles are amongst the best sniper rifles in the world.

The rest of your gibberish...... Just as usual.

1. The SANDF has received the Badger IFV already. They're putting it in trails before production can begin.

2. The SANDF has 11 Rooivalks not 10.

3. The SANDF has better sniper and anti- material rifle.

agaugust:

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[size=16pt]Chief Of Air Force For South Africa Close To Tears....

Want's Nigerian Air Force's Beechcraft ISTAR Aircraft....

Confesses SANDF/SAAF Is 66 Years Far Behind NAF !!

http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/article/international-developments-drive-the-saafs-needs-for-new-aircraft-2011-05-27 [/size]

That chief of so called SANDF is truly insane if he would have ever said that. How could he ever compare new generation airforce against that of a third world country. Infact he would have put it the other way around that NAF is 66 years behind SAAF.

Msauza:

That chief of so called SANDF is truly insane if he would have ever said that. How could he ever compare new generation airforce against that of a third world country.

He said it, go sh.oot him if you can

Msauza:

That chief of so called SANDF is truly insane if he would have ever said that. How could he ever compare new generation airforce against that of a third world country.

SAAF under project saucepan will get a long range MP aircraft.

The suggestion about the aircraft augubuhu is talking was made,before the 2012 defence review.

agaugust:

He said it, go sh.oot him if you can

Your link is even broken. Don't device stories.

agaugust:

He said it, go sh.oot him if you can

He never said anything about Nigeria.

His was a highly experienced officer,he flew Mirages alongside Captain Arthur Piercy,in Angola during counter air operations against Cuban and Angolan MIG-23.

Your air force has never in its history engaged in counter air ops.

MikeZA:

South Africa will be getting airborne command and control AEW&C planes looool

More lying to yourself, when would you stop mike.

Anyway, just in case you've forgotten again,

The SA National Defence Force (SANDF) is facing a "catastrophic" multi-billion-Rand financial crisis that could force mass retrenchments and the indefinite postponement of the acquisition of essential equipment.



Oh well, keep daydreaming.

Msauza:

That chief of so called SANDF is truly insane if he would have ever said that. How could he ever compare new generation airforce against that of a third world country. Infact he would have put it the other way around that NAF is 66 years behind SAAF.

So u know SANDF more than ur General?

kikuyu1:
You sound like these Russians discussing our Havocs!
http://www.russiadefence.net/t2593-16-mi-28n-for-kenya
Its very easy,too easy to talk isht on the net. What will you do when photos are provided?

Look man, I hold nothing against the KDF. They along with the Ugandans are one of my most favourite defence force.

If actual KDF merkavas are seen, unlike the doctored photos of supposed MI-28 helicopters, I'll celebrate with kenya.

However, I don't believe kenya is getting any merkavas.


*I sound nothing like those racist russians.

Henry120:

More lying to yourself, when would you stop mike.

Anyway, just in case you've forgotten again,

The SA National Defence Force (SANDF) is facing a "catastrophic" multi-billion-Rand financial crisis that could force mass retrenchments and the indefinite postponement of the acquisition of essential equipment.



Oh well, keep daydreaming.

From next month everything changes. Pray for September not to come. Yes my dream(implementing the 2014 defence review) is slowly by surely becoming a reality.

Your quote clearly have words like "facing"...."that could".

MikeZA: No one disputes that.

Yes,Nigeria like most defense forces has data links. But that's where it ends.

You don't have MIL-STD data links like NATO Link 11,16,22 and SA's Link-ZA.

But whatever I never expect a Beegeagles blogger to understand Combat Net Interoperability Standard (CNIS).

All SANDF communication systems are made to be compatible with Link-ZA,it is mandatory.

It cuts the decision making process shorter. Example say an aircraft strayed into a SANDF no fly zone,the Defence minister will receive real time info about the situation. While engaging the air defense chief,giving him/her and generals options on whether to use jets or GBADS to intercept or shot down.

Nigeria has a state of the art COBRA facility. Similar to what the british have. It is more advanced that what you claim to have in south-africa.

MikeZA: You love making how about we compare?

And you love making, how about we day dream.

MikeZA: 1. The SANDF has received the Badger IFV already. They're putting it in trails before production can begin.

2. The SANDF has 11 Rooivalks not 10.

3. The SANDF has better sniper and anti- material rifle.

1)There are no Patria IFV's in SANDF service, they haven't entered service with your loan defence force. Lol

2) The SAAF only fly 10 half-french helicopters

3) No they don't.

MikeZA: From next month everything changes. Pray for September not to come. Yes my dream(implementing the 2014 defence review) is slowly by surely becoming a reality.

Your quote clearly have words like "facing"...."that could".

#Reminder


"The budget shortfall also meant the SANDF would have to cut operations and acquisitions."