coogar:

i missed the match for bleeps' sake, please- what's the scores?
i heard united won but they didn't take the 3 points.

can someone explain what happened?

mbulela:

Monday Morning:

Mrs Ferguson: C'mon, Alex dear. It's time to get up. It's Seven already.

Sir Alex: Eh, What, ugh, What, How the hell? What, have they scored another one?

StarBoard:

I said Anderson was crap.
I said this side was weak in the middle.
I said a huge defeat was going to come sooner rather than later.
I was labelled a knee-jerker and a chief complainant.
If a 6-1 thumping by City doesn't get folks to review their positions,I guess folks are lost for good.
Red card or not we were poor and have been since the Chelsea game.
Awaiting the excuses by coogar.
Otelul win in midweek and everything is alright.

coogar:

you need to go to spec savers with your ill-advised comments and misguided rants.
please, coogar did not choose the team that played today, neither did coogar told evans to cop a red card.

first things first, i absolutely hate it when you make these kinda comments when i am offline. you should have at least waited to see me online before "villifying" or whatever vocab you can come up with. you have been throwing your pessimistic rants all season, when you got it wrong, no one said nada. your faulty clock got it right once and you want to "villify" coogar. . . . you are not fit to wear those shoes.

like i thought you would, anderson is crap! how's anderson crap? your last comments on this topic was you would wait until anderson gets paired with cleverley before you say anything further. but like a gaynner, you went off your handle spewing bile that anderson is crappy. we have concluded here you either pair anderson with cleverley(2 mobile midfielders) or play him in a 3-man midfield. your gaffer did none of that.

to further compound your woes, your gaffer played johnny evans(the weakest united defender) and left vidic and phil jones on the bench.
but let's blame anderson for the 2-man midfield against city's 5 with the wingers playing on the touch-line. the tactics worked perfectly and should have suited anderson, isn't it? i am happy we lost emphatically. i brought this to light last weekend at anfield when i cursed ferguson but montelik said it was a game of chess not checkers.

we are good enough to beat city - but when you leave your strongest players on the bench and play stalwarts like welbeck, evans, etc then you are asking for trouble. balotelli would never have bullied jones or smalling like he did evans today. that is not coogar's fault. that is the gaffer's fault.
if the team i predicted would start on friday had started and lost, then you can put me against the wall and shoot me with a golden gun like gadaffhi.

anything short of that, you are pissing in the wind. losing 1-6 to city is not the end of the world.
it's just 3 points after matchday 9, if it irks you so bad. . . . .take off your red shirt and wear the sky-blue one.
united are better than city. wrong selection/spastic tactics cost us the game and we were well stuffed . . . . . .and i loved it.
i doubt fergie would be starting evans in a big game ever again.

when is the next game?

StarBoard:

Montelik,
Utter hogwash.
Flattered to deceive?you must be deluded.The score should have been 10-1 judging from the way we defended.
City were good value for their win and scoreline.It's this utopia that United fans normally have that is not allowing you to see clearly even after a mauling.
How dare you compare Vidic to that imbecilic dimwit called Evans?Vidic has had his share of howlers but he still gives you an assurance of solidity at the back even when he is on a bad day.please go and heal.You obviously aren't in the right frame of mind to comment otherwise you wouldn't be saying some of the things that are being attributed to you.
Btw,where has Ashley Young gone?
I'm starting to think it's about time I vomited the pie I ate on him.

it's just 3 points after matchday 9, if it irks you so bad. . . . .take off your red shirt and wear the sky-blue one

Did he think Silva, Aguero and co came to sell groundnut

StarBoard:

This coogar is pathetic.

Who's ranting now?I think it's you seeing how duduspastic you have become.
You didn't tell Evans to cop a red card.But isn't he part of the side you've been hailing all season long?I told you United don't have the steel against a top squad.One red card and the team folds like an accordion.

So you're blaming the red card?

How come the red card wasn't a factor against Otelul?

Again as per Anderson,just save this rubbish you've been posting.It's like saying your girlfriend can't Be Intimate if there isn't Luther Vandross playing at the background.Is Andrson paid to play only with Cleverley?If Tc is out for the season,what happens?

I'm tired of arguing with you,as for me there's no point calling Ibime fat when you ain't doing any better.

Losing to City scandalously isnt the end of the world, but try not to go on record to say something when you know the only control of apart from anonymity behind a Toshiba laptop is absolutely nothing but your opinion.

if I'm pissing in the wind,your jerking off into your car's fuel tank.At least last season's side wouldnt lose to City at home.

mbulela:

Monday Morning:

Mrs Ferguson: C'mon, Alex dear. It's time to get up. It's Seven already.

Sir Alex: Eh, What, ugh, What, How the hell? What, have they scored another one?

mukina2:

StarBoard:

This coogar is pathetic.
Who's ranting now?I think it's you seeing how duduspastic you have become.

coogar:

i am not fat, debosky can testify - he paid/witnessed my liposuction

Emperoh:

Humiliating defeat surely. . . . .but why all these noise?
Starboard,
While i understand your 'issues', i still don't think things are bad.
As for me, your initial projections are mere pessimism apparently backed up by the slack middle.
be that as it may, this team is not the weakest under Fergie and the weakest have won the league if i may add.
Getting a hidding from Citeh doesn't mean United can't is in crisis. While having the weakest link in the middle, our strenght lies in our mentality and the team play.
Forget all your argument with Coogar and look at this critically, United will still nick it and you do be asking yourself wetin happen.

That said, u have every right to be happy but your projections before now were mere pessimism!!!
Next match??

debosky:

TBH, Fergie messed things up badly - Evans has been a liability since the beginning of 10/11 season, so why start him in this game and leave Jones on the bench? Why not take out a striker and strengthen the midfield considering Milner, Silva and co were running rings round Utd?

The tactics were suicidal, especially in the second half. You can do that gung-ho madness if you're playing a struggling team, but against a disciplined Citeh it was an invitation to commit murder.

As for peeps blaming Evra, only 2 goals max came from his end - most of the goals came either through the middle or from the right, but I don't hear much blame for 'golden boy' Smalling who was taken to the cleaners time and time again.

StarBoard:

Why I won't blame Fergie too much is because Fergie won't tell Ferginand to head a ball poorly into City's path to lead to the red card.You don't need Fergie to tell you how to defend or pick up players or mark a set-piece.
Fergie's selection may have been suspect for the game,but the players who played yesterday should forfeit their weekly wages minus Rooney.

chamotex:

We've played Spurs, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and Citeh now

5 top teams and the top 6 of last season . . . all in the first 9 games.
We can focus on trying to claw some points back now with a good winning streak.

Next up . . . Everton (away). Another tough test and Sunderland after that.
5 points gap is not a disaster at this stage . . . so many more points up for grabs.


As much as some people here criticise Carrick and jump on his back after every match . . . I keep saying and will continue to say it that he is the only CM we have that is disciplined enough to sit, hold and protect our back four . . . especially in the big games. He intercepts and breaks up opponents attacks with ease. He has the odd games here and there but he is vital in the protection of our defence.

We need a fully fit Vidic back ASAP too.

StarBoard:

Au contraire,Monsieur.
I can't be happy after the tanking.
I feel bad that we got whipped mercilessly in front of our own fans and couldn't do much about it.
My gripe here is that we should have seen this coming.We play in a manner that is too open,and some of these players should never get anywhere near a red jersey,never mind a United one at that.
People want to wish the defeat away and make references to similar results,but somehow both scenrios can't do.
This defeat is unique in itself for a number of reasons.I don't think we understand the implications of City beating us badly at OT.
If you think United will coast to the title just by showing up,I daresay you're dead wrong,my friend.Because we only need to look at City and know how inferior our side is at the moment.
People wanna blame tactics/who was fielded,but in all honesty,we couldn't do much better than we did yesterday.Aside from Vidic I'm not sure I know of anyone who could have made the difference on the bench yesterday.

Without much ado, this is quite not soo hard for me.
In the last couple of weeks, i agree we've played badly.
But Why will i not blame Fergie for last nite's loss? It's not rocket science the middle is our weak point.
Hence why play 2 semi-mobile players against 5 from your opponent? Even at that, we bossed the game in the first half.
i had expected a United side to patiently bid it's time and then hit. Get you one point and move. So if anything, it's Fergie's pride.

Things were pretty ok until we lost Evans. He was our weakest point after the midfield yesterday.
My common footie sense tells me, remove Welbeck bring in Jones and then see what happens
Before ringing the next two. But lo, my baba exposed his belly and went gong-ho against a team u couldn't open up with 11 men. That's professional naivety.

As for the team and your ratings of some players, i beg to differ.
Remember that this team is at a rebuilding stage. Jones, Welbeck, Young, De Gea
were additions and i don't think they are bad adds. Forget this display and look at the larger picture.
Individual players have never been United's forte in football. It's that undying spirit and team work.
Aside the arrival of Ronaldo who went to greater things, i've never know us to be your super-star players team
yet we get the results. This is just three points (five wide on the table) and bragging rights to Citeh and nothing more.

Arsenal don die because we gave them 8? Shit happens in footie and there has to be a storyline for us for the season to be exciting. So chill man unless wifey is Citeh fan

mukina2:

did you watch 'six in the city' ?

chamotex:

We've played Spurs, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and Citeh now

5 top teams and the top 6 of last season . . . all in the first 9 games.
We can focus on trying to claw some points back now with a good winning streak.

Next up . . . Everton (away). Another tough test and Sunderland after that.
5 points gap is not a disaster at this stage . . . so many more points up for grabs.


As much as some people here criticise Carrick and jump on his back after every match . . . I keep saying and will continue to say it that he is the only CM we have that is disciplined enough to sit, hold and protect our back four . . . especially in the big games. He intercepts and breaks up opponents attacks with ease. He has the odd games here and there but he is vital in the protection of our defence.

We need a fully fit Vidic back ASAP too.

coded guy:

There is no way we can categorically say if a particular player was on the field this result would have been prevented. I think the players and Fergie just missed it, whether we attribute it to pride or whatever, there was confusion in the UNITED team yesterday. They just felt that they would be able to rescue the situation and then were always punished.

chamotex:

I never said anything like that.

My point is . . . Carrick is the only CM we have that is disciplined enough to sit, hold and protect our back four.
You rarely see Carrick get into the oppositions penalty box any more compared to Anderson, Fletcher etc.
That makes a huge difference . . . not necessarily saying it would have made any difference in yesterdays game . . . we will never know that.

Like someone said before, Ando and Fletcher will struggle to get you 7 goals each in a season and they are not the most disciplined in protecting the defence either. At least with Carrick, you know what to expect . . . he doesn't bump forward but he sits and protects.

For me personally, we don't currently have the central midfielders to play 2 in the middle at this present time especially in the big games, and if we must do . . . it MUST be Carrick and someone else . . . at least until Cleverley returns to continue the partnership with Ando that has worked earlier in the season.

debosky:

I did witness the liposuction, but Ando paid for it as the final installment of Sharon's sponsorship deal.

TBH, Fergie messed things up badly - Evans has been a liability since the beginning of 10/11 season, so why start him in this game and leave Jones on the bench? Why not take out a striker and strengthen the midfield considering Milner, Silva and co were running rings round Utd?

The tactics were suicidal, especially in the second half. You can do that gung-ho madness if you're playing a struggling team, but against a disciplined Citeh it was an invitation to commit murder.

As for peeps blaming Evra, only 2 goals max came from his end - most of the goals came either through the middle or from the right, but I don't hear much blame for 'golden boy' Smalling who was taken to the cleaners time and time again.

Mr_TA:

Im starting to think the less Cleverley plays the better a player he has become in the eyes of some.