coogar:

i said i think he is a genuine pastor and that is based on what i saw in the documentary.

i don't have any information of him outside what i saw in the documentary. he could be the biggest crooked pastor nigeria has ever seen but that was not evident in the documentary and so i cannot pass judgement from assumptions, conjectures and rumour mongering. that is my position.

however, if you then bring an external source of information about him that was never in the documentary i saw, then it's a different matter.
what i will not do is say for sure he's a crooked pastor from the little i saw in the poorly-produced documentary. no one knows for sure he's crooked from what we saw but some people here are just social reprobates and they think they know better when they actually know nothing!

keep my name out of your mouth, you neophyte!
do you need a toothpick?

musKeeto:

I love you. Go on girl, 

eGuerrilla:

But you pass judgment several times every day, no?

Isn't this what thinking people do?
I am thinking of those who do not suspend reality for Fireman's warped analysis.

On what basis do you form an opinion he is a prophet when you ". . .have no other information on him beyond what you saw in the documentary"?

I think Fireman is several steps ahead of you in terms of marketing actually, since he describes himself as the real deal: An angel sent by the God

ogajim:

Let's simplyfy the questions by taking them one after the other:

Fireman said to his "students" on the video "God is a game"


Does coogar by any chance agree with this "prophet"??

ogajim:

Let's simplyfy the questions by taking them one after the other:

Fireman said to his "students" on the video "God is a game"

Does coogar by any chance agree with this "prophet"??

coogar:

i don't even know what the phrase means - so i cannot answer a yes/no to your question.
if you are sure of what it means - then tell us what it means.

musKeeto:

So what exactly do you know?

musKeeto:

lol, did your mom tell you that?

coogar:

a harmless phrase that could connote any meaning. the fact he mentioned in the full glare of the camera also rendered it useless.
fireman wanted exposure and he's now being able to get you and your ilk interested. i am sure you have been hitting his web pages on facebook since then and each time his name gets mentioned here, he gets more web-hits.

how does that make him fraudulent? will the phrase "God is a game" convict him in any court?
i don't even know what the phrase means - so i cannot answer a yes/no to your question.
if you are sure of what it means - then tell us what it means.

ogajim:

Suspicions CONFIRMED!
Anyone with an IQ above the average Lagos roach understands what fireman meant except "our esteemed coogar" who came in as Amicus Curiae defending a con artist.
Your objection to my classification of fireman as a con artist has been OVER RULED, you may step down now Counsel

ogajim:

^^^
coogar/pilgrim/whatever you want to be called

Sie schreiben wie ein kleines Kind, ich habe keine Zeit für dich

You must think I have the kind of time to look up FAKE pastors/prophets on FB, sorry dude, no can't do!

Further proof that too much use of blue tooth devices cancels out the logical half of the brain, I bet I could control you with a jail-broken iphone with the right app if I was close enough to "discover" you Omase oooooo

frosbel:

my goodness, you do indeed have a most vulgar mouth.

I bet Jesus will rebuke you for all the curse words you have been throwing all over the place.

"But of the same mouth come praise and cursing. My brothers, this should not be " - James 3:10

ogajim:

I thank God I have not stooped to the name calling level or the "try to annoy"
philosophy espoused by coogar all over this thread.

ogajim:

@JeSoul, what happened to the Pats in Pittsburg last Sunday? I know my "skins" ain't going nowhere but Brady and the Pats?

In my Keyshawn voice "come on man'!

coogar:

pastor kun, the military is a chess game not checkers.

if i am a soldier and i plan a successful coup, i am untouchable. the soldiers in the government i have overthrown will either be dead or put in prison for various treasonable felonies. so where is the guilt? i have now become the judge, jury and the executioner of the last administration.

however, if i don't become successful with my plot, then the government i should have thrown would weigh heavy against me and that is when i would have committed a treasonable felony. if i get the death sentence then, it's justified.

the latter was vatsa's case. same as gideon orka.
the former was babangida's case. he planned a coup and he was successful. mind, no blood was shed in august 27 1985.

geriatric Arrow. show me the law.
i have given you that task for the past 3 hours.

you want me to take your words for it out of your 0% credibility?
woe betides you! you cancerous bat!

you must be born foolish.
asking me where ibb got the funds to buy oil wells? go and ask him in minna how he got the money to buy oil wells.
you know ibb has never worked all his life. he just became a military dictator by abracadabra.

you are a ruminant animal that should be skewered in a bbq!

dunderhead!


so if it's not illegal, why did you bring it up in the first place?
i have to say you are suffering from creeping neurosis.

that gorilla is sagamite.
if you don't know now you know - he's a silverback ape.

jump back to the previous pages and check who started the name calling. . . . the answer would surprise you.
i give back what is being thrown at me in 100-folds. i don't give 2 rats about anyone.

vatsa planned a coup - an offence punishable by death if the coup fails to succeed. it's in the military constitution.
vatsa was tried, he was found guilty and he was deservedly executed!

dele giwa was bombed via a parcel. no one knew he sent the parcel.
the epileptic state of that chaotic country don't even have competent forensic investigators in 2011, let alone 26 yrs ago when dele giwa was murdered. babangida was manipulated to have masterminded the murder but there was no credible evidence. any of us here could have done it.

arisekola is a business man in ibadan. a friend of the government.
during the crisis in sierra leone - a peace keeping force was formed. the contracts were out there for anyone to bid. arisekola(a nigerian citizen) put in his bid. he won the contract. he supplied what was needed and he became rich. that is a fraud?

what you drink makes you ptyalize rubbish online.
watch what you drink, loser!

spoken like a true homoerotic peasant!

diluminati appears to me like a product of a cheap drunk f[i]u[/i]ck.
a vegetable of a man who cannot eat until he's spoon-fed.


show me where it's written a nigerian military dictator is not allowed to own businesses
jeeez. . . .see half-baked graduates. provide evidence and they keep yelping like a castrated hyena.

Sagamite:

So, cretin, in your opinion, was Ibori corrupt as Governor?

coogar:

ibori's corruption as a governor is as obvious as your sterling foolishness on this thread.

ibori has been arrested so many times for different crimes ranging from money laundering, embezzlement, abuse of office, theft of public funds, etc. interpol even joined in and he was arrested in dubai before being taken to london. how isn't he corrupt? his associates already got 5-year sentences each for helping james ibori launder money by a crown court in southwark!

i have avoided this section because i don't want jesoul to lock the thread so other meaningful comments can be posted.
stop bringing me back with your asinine comments and vacuous reasoning.

coogar:

he has not been found guilty of any corruption charges - his alleged corruption charge is only whispered in the dark, under the breaths of millions of nigerians with no concrete evidence to nail him.

coogar:

i am not defending the indefensible. . . . .i am asking you people to be sure before labelling pastor fireman as a conman. i dunno fireman from adam but i am wise enough to know fireman is innocent until proven guilty. . . . . .until proven guilty.

Sagamite:

You are a cretin!
I thought you were the one that said:

Show me where Ibori has been found guilty of corruption in a court of law for looting as Governor?
How did you arrive at the conclusion that he is guilty of corruption?
Was Ibori the one on trial when others were found guilty? So how was he the one guilty?

From your daft educational background, is the fact that someone was arrested, or wanted, a proof of guilt? Are you going to go to court and say "this man is guilty because he has a criminal record, we have arrested him and other people have been locked up" and then win the case?

So how did you conclude Ibori was corrupt as a State Governor?
Fool! You see how you put your foot in your mouth when you argue stewpidly?
Cretin! Show me where Ibori has been found guilty for corruption and looting as Delta State governor.
I thought your cretinous arse was the one professing "innocent until proven guilty"?
Can people on the thread join me in calling this coogar a "Big Fooool"!

coogar:

you must have been a born a tool!
i knew that was where you were going and as a disciple of the "art of war", i was fully prepared for your ill-equipped boobytrap

Chrstine Ibie-Ibori and Udoamaka Okoronkwo were each sentenced to 5 years in prison on Monday 7 June 2010 by the UK court even as the defense counsel pleaded for mercy that the convicts were merely manipulated by James Bori.

a fact that would have been recorded in the southwark crown court.
if you were not born brain dead, where did christine-ibie ibori and udoamaka okoronkwo find the funds/security votes they were laundering. you are so ridiculously silly you cannot see the bridge between the 2 cases. once these people have been convicted, ibori is aready a convict!!!

his case is a complex case of fraud which the british courts will take time to solve.
ibori's conviction is certain. i don't need to wait for the day he's pronounced guilty by any crown court before i know he's guilty. this was a man that fled nigerian shores out of guilt. apprehended in dubai and extradited to london - and you want to compare this to ibb?

you are a disgrace to the whole community of sagamu - where you hail from.

he is already guilty by association with the convicted people in that southwark crown court. if you have helped me launder money and you have been convicted, how the hell can i escape conviction? are you born foolish? the lawyers of the convicted even pleaded for clemency and said the convicts were manipulated by james ibori,.

his associates have been found guilty. the people who laundered money for him have been sentenced to 5 years.
their defense counsel pleaded for clemency and blamed james ibori for manipulating them into money laundering. a point that would have been jotted down by the court's recorder when ibori's case starts.

where did those people find the money they were laundering? christian ibie-ibori is james' sister and she is now in prison for 5 years.
you would have been born a vegetable if you think james ibori is not guilty of his charge. the 2 cases are linked together. ibori's case is a bit more complex and this is why he isn't in the dock yet - but in due time, he will be in court.

you unrepentant w@nker.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Ibori

the above is james ibori's life of crime. his various arrests, short prison time, extradition and so on and so forth.
and sagamite(the biggest empty barrel with the loudest noise) wants to compare this to ibrahim babangida who has never been arrested once for a single crime or questioned by the authorities and dr fireman, who has never been in any court or whose associates have never been in any court.

you're a sort of online life-sucking, soul-draining, leech-like virus, who i'm sure can not possibly be a real, living, breathing organism beyond the computer screen, but rather a vicious invention developed to slowly display foolishness yet unseen by human beings from one section of this forum to another.

the only comfort i take is that perhaps you can be succesfully quarantined on this forum so you won't spread to the rest of the internet. but i fear that you're probably already responsible for every single moronic youtube comment, forum troll, spam e-mail, fraudulent advert and all the bestiality websites to have ever existed, you obdurate w@nker!

Ibori is already a convict because they are convicts? You are the biggest MOOOOOORON ever!  So why take him to court then? Why waste public resources for a trial, just lock him up since he is guilty before being proven guilty, according to your daft arse!

Sagamite:

So from your daft educational background, the fact that Christine Ibie-Ibori and Udoamaka Okoronkwo are guilty is proof that James Ibori is guilty? Ibori is already a convict because they are convicts? You are the biggest MOOOOOORON ever!  So why take him to court then? Why waste public resources for a trial, just lock him up since he is guilty before being proven guilty, according to your daft arse!

So according to your moronic way of thinking, what if Christine Ibie-Ibori and Udoamaka Okoronkwo were sleeping with some government officials that were signing for the money or forging Ibori's signature? Where is your proof it was Ibori that gave them the laundered funds? Show me hard evidence, CRETIN! 

Your cretinous arse is no more talking of "innocent until proven guilty" and "he has to be found guilty by a court" before you know someone is a crook? 

Where is your proof they helped Ibori launder money? Show me hard evidence. I wait.  The people convicted said they did not luander money for Ibori, so where is your proof the money found with them is from Ibori? Show me hard evidence. I wait. 

The same cretin talking about innocent until proven guilty is asking me where the wife got the money from? The same cretin that is giving excuses where IBB got his funds to buy private jets and oil wells from a soldiers salary? FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!

Can you see how daft and cretinous your arguments, reasoning and thinking are now? 

What happened to "innocent until proven guilty"? That has turned to "guilty by association" and "guilty before being proven guilty"? Psychotic CRETIN!

So in your daft world, people are convicted and legally guilty before a trial?  Or the are guilty because they know someone guilty of a crime?  Show me where Ibori has been convicted for looting Delta States?