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Re: I Pity Tinubu If He Approves Unsustainable Minimum Wage - Soludo by Obi1kenobi(m): 7:23pm On Jun 12
bixton:





I'll conclude by saying if the President and Governors can't pay a reasonable minimum living wage, they can as well resign from office. They were not elected be it by hook or by crook to enslave the people.
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Government employment is not "slavery". It's a privilege. A privilege that many Nigerians earn by bribery, or by nepotism and tribalism (what we call "connect"wink. Most government employees are lucky to be there at all when there are far more deserving people who don't have those jobs because they don't have a "connect". Do you understand that it is the Nigerian taxpayers who are struggling in a very harsh economy who will be paying the ridiculous salary demands of those government workers? Why should we subsidize the struggles of government employees when we're also having our struggles?

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Re: I Pity Tinubu If He Approves Unsustainable Minimum Wage - Soludo by bixton(m): 7:29pm On Jun 12
Obi1kenobi:
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Government employment is not "slavery". It's a privilege. A privilege that many Nigerians earn by bribery, or by nepotism and tribalism (what we call "connect"wink. Most government employees are lucky to be there at all when there are far more deserving people who don't have those jobs because they don't have a "connect". Do you understand that it is the Nigerian taxpayers who are struggling in a very harsh economy who will be paying the ridiculous salary demands of those government workers? Why should we subsidize the struggles of government employees when we're also having our struggles?




I am sure government workers are paying taxes as well or are they not?
So ridiculous as it may, we are all paying taxes directly and indirectly no matter the ridiculousity.
Re: I Pity Tinubu If He Approves Unsustainable Minimum Wage - Soludo by Image123(m): 7:31pm On Jun 12
bixton:



It works both ways.
Whatever the NLC does works directly for all Civil Servants and Public Servants and indirectly for the rest of the populace. It's as simple as that.

Big fat lie
Re: I Pity Tinubu If He Approves Unsustainable Minimum Wage - Soludo by benjaminlawson(m): 7:34pm On Jun 12
With due respect Prof, sometimes political rascality and loss of human empathy couple with corruption and wickedness always override the sense of reasoning and academic theories, mr. governor as an economist when the man proclaimed subsidy gone and flow our naira without corresponding increased productivity to earn foreign exchange, you lost your voice to tell the man the consequences of his action that brings hyper inflation, that make the price level to increase by about 400%. Now that he has to face consequences of that action in form of wage increment you suddenly postulated that there will be consequences. Am not surprise because all governors had been advocating for subsidy removal to have more money coming to their state to embezzled and diverted to private purse, a case in study is kogi where ex-governor was climbing the fence to escape EFCC probe of 80 billion naira, our Prof. did not pity the people there, the only money that circular to masses and boost our economy is what is paid to government workers, all the money our Prof. and other governors and politically exposed persons embezzled are not found in our domestic economy, they either send to foreign countries to buy assets, change it to dollar and store in the tank and sock ways. Let there by living wage for workers so that worker can live a decent life. Also Prof with all sincerity, how much do you give to your boy or daughter to go and shop or spend in a weekend as compare to minimum wage you are pity Mr president for.

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Re: I Pity Tinubu If He Approves Unsustainable Minimum Wage - Soludo by MaziObinnaokija: 7:36pm On Jun 12
cool very CORRECT
EmperorCaesar:


U wan push who out??

I can bet my balls that you're not even in Anambra state...Lets meet at Ukwuorji, close to Paul University, Awka tomorrow evening if truly you are in Anambra state

Una go siddon for SW dey predict wetin no real for here

If only u know how hard the man is working....that aside sef, na only one vote u get and that wont stop CS next year
Re: I Pity Tinubu If He Approves Unsustainable Minimum Wage - Soludo by bixton(m): 7:41pm On Jun 12
Image123:


Big fat lie

It can never be as fat a big lie as that the FG and the Governors want us to believe, swallow and digest.
Re: I Pity Tinubu If He Approves Unsustainable Minimum Wage - Soludo by optimusprime2(m): 7:46pm On Jun 12
christejames:
Soludo is disappointing me with his statements on this minimum wage undecided





You were perceived as a technocrat and made the governor of one of the most vibrants and richest states (in both human and commercial/industrial resources) in Nigeria, but you are giving excuses that you can't pay something less than 70k? When some states like Edo and Borno that are seen as commercially inefficient are proposing more than 70k? shocked shocked




Keep giving opposition chances to push you out!

To be honest he is right!
Nigeria cannot sustain that proposed minimum wage without major consequences.

What people should be clamouring about is for certain political class to have massive paycuts to boost the economy.

When that is done then people can talk about minimum wage increment.

Fyi a minimum wage increment of over 100% also applies to that certain political class as well.
Re: I Pity Tinubu If He Approves Unsustainable Minimum Wage - Soludo by ghiloman28(m): 7:52pm On Jun 12
Absolutely unproductive.
techaboki:
Minimum wage should actually be reduced to 10k.

Nigerian workers are not doing anything. Uterly useless and unproductive people.

Na to de clamour for pay rise them know

Rubbish

And hey, I just want to let you know that beans will sell for 4k per kilo next year. So start clearing that 2 plot in your backyard in preparation for the planting season

De play
Re: I Pity Tinubu If He Approves Unsustainable Minimum Wage - Soludo by Emeskhalifa(m): 7:53pm On Jun 12
osazsky:
according to labour law minimum wage is applicable to company's that have more than 40staffs...don't expect a POS operator to pay his sales girl 70k...the 10k salary for sales girls and boys still stand irrespective of minimum wage..this is a public forum

Ok thanks for the enlightening
Re: I Pity Tinubu If He Approves Unsustainable Minimum Wage - Soludo by Sapasenator: 7:55pm On Jun 12
This life sha, I remember when Soludo and PBAT were throwing banters at one of the ICAN conferences I attended, Soludo was CBN governor and Tinubu was the governor of Lagos. I remember Soludo saying " I am the only governor without a state"
Re: I Pity Tinubu If He Approves Unsustainable Minimum Wage - Soludo by Jonjam269: 7:58pm On Jun 12
Stanleymaster1:
That's what he is about to do. Who don't known Tinubu, Giver of hardship
This matter is beyond your comprehension capacity. Kindly stick to your wailing career.
Re: I Pity Tinubu If He Approves Unsustainable Minimum Wage - Soludo by Sapasenator: 7:58pm On Jun 12
Adaisback:
BIA one term governor as you call yourself, Biko Kam jugo du I, , does it mean you are over taxing ndi Anambra for nothing ?

Soludo , Anambra is one of the richest state in Nigeria, Anambra state can pay the minimum age very well you are just being stingy and wicked. No one should quote me this afternoon , I haff headache

Ta mechie onu ghi eba!
Re: I Pity Tinubu If He Approves Unsustainable Minimum Wage - Soludo by Mrexcell(m): 8:05pm On Jun 12
EmperorCaesar:
As a former CBN Gov, He knows best and I'm sure PBAT share same ideology too

They wouldnt approve what State Gov would struggle to pay in the long run

If you disagree with this, just remember than you arent smarter than Soludo


He still doesn't have the monopoly of knowledge.
Re: I Pity Tinubu If He Approves Unsustainable Minimum Wage - Soludo by Sapasenator: 8:05pm On Jun 12
raskymonojendor:
Like Soludo like Otti and Peter Obi. Birds of a feather.

You aren't making sense buddy, why is Soludo in that sentence?
Re: I Pity Tinubu If He Approves Unsustainable Minimum Wage - Soludo by fidtopade: 8:11pm On Jun 12
Please leave Borno out it, do you know that until now there are workers who earns less than 7k per month. I actually live in Borno State.
christejames:
Soludo is disappointing me with his statements on this minimum wage undecided





You were perceived as a technocrat and made the governor of one of the most vibrants and richest states (in both human and commercial/industrial resources) in Nigeria, but you are giving excuses that you can't pay something less than 70k? When some states like Edo and Borno that are seen as commercially inefficient are proposing more than 70k? shocked shocked




Keep giving opposition chances to push you out!
Re: I Pity Tinubu If He Approves Unsustainable Minimum Wage - Soludo by StreetFight: 8:24pm On Jun 12
SwissMass:
Soludo understands the economy not like the bitter grieving obi 3rd class graduate of philosophy

The 3rd Class Philosophy graduate also understands the economics of Hero Beer to get indegenes drunk and useless

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Re: I Pity Tinubu If He Approves Unsustainable Minimum Wage - Soludo by FourQu: 8:34pm On Jun 12
EmperorCaesar:


I'm Game bro

I am in onitsha. I actually come to awka a lot. Let's meet too and drink wink
Re: I Pity Tinubu If He Approves Unsustainable Minimum Wage - Soludo by BondRiv: 8:41pm On Jun 12
Nigerian governors. Smh.
Re: I Pity Tinubu If He Approves Unsustainable Minimum Wage - Soludo by Blakjewelry(m): 8:47pm On Jun 12
christejames:
Soludo is disappointing me with his statements on this minimum wage undecided





You were perceived as a technocrat and made the governor of one of the most vibrants and richest states (in both human and commercial/industrial resources) in Nigeria, but you are giving excuses that you can't pay something less than 70k? When some states like Edo and Borno that are seen as commercially inefficient are proposing more than 70k? shocked shocked




Keep giving opposition chances to push you out!
Did you watch the video?
Re: I Pity Tinubu If He Approves Unsustainable Minimum Wage - Soludo by Adaisback(f): 9:06pm On Jun 12
Sapasenator:


Ta mechie onu ghi eba!
nkogheri
Re: I Pity Tinubu If He Approves Unsustainable Minimum Wage - Soludo by steeltrust: 9:06pm On Jun 12
But 300% increase for judges won’t cause job loses

Normally we know soludo no well
But it is what it is
Idiots in high places
Re: I Pity Tinubu If He Approves Unsustainable Minimum Wage - Soludo by Adaisback(f): 9:07pm On Jun 12
LegendHero:


Below is Soludo laying bare Anambra revenue today.

Where the man wan take pay 250k minimum wage in that poor state? Abi you no see the state finance?
no need to bandy words with you. Am on ground and in better position to school you about my state
Re: I Pity Tinubu If He Approves Unsustainable Minimum Wage - Soludo by LegendHero(m): 9:10pm On Jun 12
Adaisback:
no need to bandy words with you. Am on ground and in better position to school you about my state

You’re on ground more than the governor?
Re: I Pity Tinubu If He Approves Unsustainable Minimum Wage - Soludo by Misterone: 9:27pm On Jun 12
JohnBullMySon:


I'm sure you know better than Soludo

Nigeria's GDP per capita is 2162

2162/12 = 180 output p/m in USD

180/0.5 fact out profits est = 90 avg wage est

90/0.5 optimistic avg wage min wage gap = 45

45* 1.4 =63k min wage est thats before factoring in corruption and other inefficiencies within the system.

The internet is where the uneducated think they know more than the educated.
Oga! Get sense small! Government (both state and federal ) employs less than 10% of the population. So what happens to the others? That sales girl, job man etc? What happens to them? (these people make up over 50% of the work force), what happens to the market woman, private businesses etc? You think they will fold their hands and be looking at your stupid face?
Re: I Pity Tinubu If He Approves Unsustainable Minimum Wage - Soludo by Sapasenator: 9:30pm On Jun 12
Adaisback:
nkogheri

bia Ada, mu na gi aburo kwa ogbo! sa anya gi na nmiri!

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Re: I Pity Tinubu If He Approves Unsustainable Minimum Wage - Soludo by Knivesout(m): 9:47pm On Jun 12
I dey for Nibo...😁
EmperorCaesar:


U wan push who out??

I can bet my balls that you're not even in Anambra state...Lets meet at Ukwuorji, close to Paul University, Awka tomorrow evening if truly you are in Anambra state

Una go siddon for SW dey predict wetin no real for here

If only u know how hard the man is working....that aside sef, na only one vote u get and that wont stop CS next year
Re: I Pity Tinubu If He Approves Unsustainable Minimum Wage - Soludo by Ate247(m): 10:19pm On Jun 12
adamusuleiman1:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXRyNAQcgLM?si=Hm1XEEcOggJFESdx



https://www.channelstv.com/2024/06/12/i-pity-tinubu-if-he-approves-unsustainable-minimum-wage-soludo/
everything he said here is rubbish. How many convoy follows the PM of Britain. It won't be well with this politician. When it comes to the masses you know statistics. But when it comes to stealing and sharing billions statistics is no where. I blame the idiots that voted this animals.
Re: I Pity Tinubu If He Approves Unsustainable Minimum Wage - Soludo by ibtommy(m): 10:39pm On Jun 12
christejames:
Soludo is disappointing me with his statements on this minimum wage undecided





You were perceived as a technocrat and made the governor of one of the most vibrants and richest states (in both human and commercial/industrial resources) in Nigeria, but you are giving excuses that you can't pay something less than 70k? When some states like Edo and Borno that are seen as commercially inefficient are proposing more than 70k? shocked shocked




Keep giving opposition chances to push you out!
.
It's called political influence.

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Re: I Pity Tinubu If He Approves Unsustainable Minimum Wage - Soludo by Vision101(m): 10:42pm On Jun 12
christejames:
Soludo is disappointing me with his statements on this minimum wage undecided





You were perceived as a technocrat and made the governor of one of the most vibrants and richest states (in both human and commercial/industrial resources) in Nigeria, but you are giving excuses that you can't pay something less than 70k? When some states like Edo and Borno that are seen as commercially inefficient are proposing more than 70k? shocked shocked




Keep giving opposition chances to push you out!
Payment of 70k and above minimum wage doesn't make a governor a wonderful governor. Edo and the others that are paying them what other development that are going on.
Re: I Pity Tinubu If He Approves Unsustainable Minimum Wage - Soludo by ibtommy(m): 10:48pm On Jun 12
Misterone:
Oga! Get sense small! Government (both state and federal ) employs less than 10% of the population. So what happens to the others? That sales girl, job man etc? What happens to them? (these people make up over 50% of the work force), what happens to the market woman, private businesses etc? You think they will fold their hands and be looking at your stupid face?
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Actually, our politicians and even the so-called NLC leaders deliberately refused to understand "minimum wage". It's no minimum wage if it doesn't include the private sector. UK is a wonderful minimum wage template we should imbibe, not just focusing on civil servants only. We no dey learn good things; na bad thing we dey learn from the Oyinbos.

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Re: I Pity Tinubu If He Approves Unsustainable Minimum Wage - Soludo by franconian: 11:51pm On Jun 12
casualobserver:


You say you want a technocrat, he is giving you the facts from the lens of a technocrat. You cannot have a country with a gdp per capita of N150k a month and pay the minimum worker even N100k. I have been saying it for weeks, you cannot pay a man more than his output and the reality is that the output of the Nigerian worker is very low N150k a month on average. Average according to civil service scale is a graduate with a few years experience.

Minimum wage is not supposed to “take you home”. You are not supposed to be comfortable on minimum wage otherwise you would have no incentive to improve yourself or your productivity.

If you read my posts on the subject for the last 2 weeks, you will see Soludo is echoing exactly what I have been saying.

1) He said nowhere in the world do you pay a minimum wage higher than 30% of GDP per capita.
2) he spoke about the productivity of the Nigerian worker.
3) he spoke about effects of Udoji award of 1973.


All these things I have been hammering.


Abeg nor vex ooo, I get many questions wey I wan ask you. What exactly is the output of our public officials to warrant them earning millions (some tens of millions) monthly?

What percentage of GDP per capita should public officials earn?

What percentage of GDP per capita should be used to purchase official vehicles for public officials?

Shouldn't all what you've been saying apply to public officials and their appointees too.

I honestly believe all public office holders in Nigeria are earning way more than their output. If you believe this too, please apply this GDP per capita calculation and tell us what these public officials should take home. Let's start from there.
Re: I Pity Tinubu If He Approves Unsustainable Minimum Wage - Soludo by casualobserver: 12:09am On Jun 13
franconian:


Abeg nor vex ooo, I get many questions wey I wan ask you. What exactly is the output of our public officials to warrant them earning millions (some tens of millions) monthly?

What percentage of GDP per capita should public officials earn?

What percentage of GDP per capita should be used to purchase official vehicles for public officials?

Shouldn't all what you've been saying apply to public officials and their appointees too.

I honestly believe all public office holders in Nigeria are earning way more than their output. If you believe this too, please apply this GDP per capita calculation and tell us what these public officials should take home. Let's start from there.

Oga that’s why poverty is a disease. Anyone who told you life is fair lied to you. There is no system of government anywhere in the world that was designed for the poor. Every system of govt everywhere in the world since the dawn of time was designed for the few. Forget their propaganda, the only interest any govt has in the poor is to prevent a riot so the elites can enjoy their privileges in peace and since the Poor of Nigeria are all talk, make stupid choices, prefer to pray than to work, no one is going to,fight for you unless you fight for yourselves. So you either improve yourself to break the poverty barrier or you fight so that they take care of you.

Joe Ajaero is in switzerland, he would have travelled business class, his official car is the same car senators and house rep members ride, when he called a strike his house is powered by generators paid for by union dues. Do you think he fighting for the poor?

Better wake up. I cannot pay you what I do not have, neither can you employer, neither can a government.

Stop asking about what the elites earn, you are not the elite. I hate to break it to you but you are not equal. To borrow the famous phrase from animal farm. “All animals are equal but some are more equal than others”. That’s the reality of life. That why we say get a good education so that there is a minimum level you cannot fall below in life but you insist on paying 80k for university fees and chase away those who can pay higher fees to subsidize a good education for you. Then you complain when those who sacrificed to get a good education enjoying the privileges, contact, access of the said good education. Ok nah!


So to answer your question what is their output? More than the minimum wage worker that’s why they are there and the minimum wage worker is where he is. If the minimum wage worker had what it takes to be earning the millions he wouldn’t be earning minimum wage. If the average Nigerian had what it takes to earn the millions they wouldn’t be average Nigerians. Clearly those earning these sums have something those who don’t lack. It could be intelligence, it be be qualifications, it could be access, it could be contacts, whatever it is it come with deliberate effort, not shouting asking why are you earning more than me! That is why I said you get what you work for in life.

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