Benfica have made over £150m in player sales this year:

Guedes: £30m
Costa: £16.2m
Ederson: £40m
Marçal: £4.5m
Lindelof: £30m
Semedo: £30m

I don't believe De Gea will be leaving this summer because I don't see Madrid forking out £60m being suggested in the media on him.

raumdeuter:


How many players are in Man Utd from other EPL side, How many in Bayern are from the current Buli

Lol......

Mr. Raumdeutwist, you no get shame at all. It's no longer give me top 3 teams. It's now how many in Bayern and Man Utd.

You've not answered my question which you included in the questions you asked. You should answer the two.

raumdeuter:


You bought their players when their teams were doing good and didnt bother about Leeds when they went down the table, the moment they came up the table again and became a legit contender, made CL semi, you bought their captain Rio ferdinand

I have told you that CONSISTENTLY POACHING your main competitor within a short period is the issue here. Any club can buy players from her competitor once in a while but when it turns to doing such on a regular basis and withing a short period is what is very bad and becomes sort of bullying such team to win the league. I'm sure if Bayern doesn't buy one player from them in this summer, they'll definitely buy from then next summer. That's exactly what Bayern Munich is doing in Bundesliga to Dortmund.

The same way Man City poached Adebayo, Sagna, Toure, Clichy and Nasri from Arsenal within 5 years.

What is so difficult to answer

Till now you havent told me any 3 top clubs in Europe who took as much players from their league as Man Utd

I didn't want to answer this before because I believe a lot of team does this. But like I said, it is when you do it consistently to your main competitor is what I am saying is bad.

Now to your question.

Do we even have up to ten players in our team that we bought from the league? I need an answer from you on this.

Three teams that does that presently are Liverpool, Juventus, Ac Milan and Dortmund as a bonus since you only requested three. That is to prove to you that many clubs do that but not to a particular competitor within a very short period. Are you now satisfied?

I know that after reading this you'll be thinking of how best to twist your question again. You may decide to say they are not from Europe or they're not top teams or their players are not up to that or even manufacture one twist from nowhere. Let's wait and see.

sinizia:


Baba, I dey hail. LWKMD.

Lol! You too see twisting after the gaffe.

raumdeuter:


Went down the table and stopped being a title threat.

See twisting after being cornered.

What then were you arguing with me If you are now saying they were in the league but were not competitive?

You are now agreeing with my assertions. How can Man Utd weaken a team that's not competiting with us?

raumdeuter:


You didnt buy from Leeds again because they went down and stopped being a competitior, the next time they came up again finished 3rd and went to the CL semi not long after you bought their captain Rio Ferdinand

Went down where? That's a gaffe from you. Leeds were in the league till 2004 due to them being insolvent.

They even sold Rio to us because they were in a problem.

raumdeuter:


Which year did Leeds win the league, when did Man Utd buy Cantona? So tell me how a team who won the league just before you bought Cantona isnt your competition but Chelsea was

Did I dispute they won the league that season? And where did I say Chelsea was our competitor in the year Leeds won the league?

Try to comprehend.

Let's agree that we bought Cantona from them in the summer of their title winning season which makes them one of our competitor.
The next buys were 1998 & 2002 which were distant periods and Leeds were no longer competitive. Rather Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal were our main competitors. Hence, buying from Leeds wasn't consistently weakening a competitor

Compared to Bayern

Who consistently bought three Dortmund players(best players or one of their best) within 3 years (2013, 2014 & 2016) when they were their main competitor for the league title. That's consitently weakening your main competitor to win the league.

raumdeuter:


The issue was you [b]targetted Leed everytime they tried to rise, [/b]Be in 1992 after they won the league or in 2001 when they were in the CL semi final and stole their captain
2012, Man Utd failed to win the league, they looked just below them saw Arsenal and stole their captain and best player

Trying to rise from finishing 5th? Defininetly, that were not our direct competitor. There were Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool that were really competing for the title then.

That's not the same as Dortmund that finished second in the season and in the summer Bayern munich poach their players (one of their best if not their best) within three years.

Why wouldn't you be dominant in such a league?

raumdeuter:


From Leeds you forgot Alan Smith and Rio ferdinand

These are the context within which I said what I said:

I mentioned within a very short period in my first post for a reason. And I also mentioned weakening your direct competitor.

We bought Cantona who played only 15 games for them in 1992, bought Alan Smith from them in 1998 (6yrs apart and were no longer competitive) and bought Rio Ferdinand in 2002 (4yrs apart)

Unlike Bayern who bought Godze in 2013, Lewandoski in 2014 and Hummel's in 2016. That's within 3 years when they were Bayern's only and direct competitor.

That's consistently weakening your direct competitor.

raumdeuter:


See post shifting from Bayern buys from their league when we showed that Man utd is actually the one most guilty of this they resorted to Bayern buy from the only club giving them competition

As a start Leeds won the league in 1992 as a punishment Man Utd took their star Cantona few weeks later since then Leeds have learnt their lesson and not won the league again

There is no post shifting here. It has always been said here that buying from your direct competitor is the main issue here, not buying from lesser teams.

How many players did we buy from Leeds apart from Cantona? And buying only Cantona wasn't the reason why they didn't win the league again.

raumdeuter:


A fan whose team just signed Lukaku from a fellow EPL club

In your club currently, Jones, Smalling, Valencia, Young, Fellaini, Carrick, Mata, Lukaku, Shaw

Tats about 10 players you bought from other EPL teams

Now this is a challenge, Show me 3 other big clubs in Europe that has 10 players currently in their team bought from their league

BTW a team with 20 league is bigger than a team with 33
A team with 3 CL bigger than a team with 12 CL

A team that finished 6th in the league bigger than a team who won the league, and won the CL back to back

You should find a way into comedy

This is not about buying from your fellow league club but buying from the only club that is giving you stiif competition for the league title and thus weakening such club and making your club the undisputable league champions every year. Imagine buying three good players from them within a very short period.

AdisaOwala:


Overhyped version of Jèsus Navas bruh

How?

With 12 goals 5 assist in Ligue 1 and 19 goals 11 assist in all competitions last season.

Jesus Navas never had that number of goals in a single season.

JayKayMaybachz:
Ivan Perišić is prepared to reject Inter Milan's offer of a pay rise to land a move to Manchester United. (Source:… Skysports Italia)

Since PSG is ready to sell Lucas Moura for £27m. Why can't we go for him since Inter is doing strong head for Perisic? Also, he's younger than Perisic.

afrodoc2:


We are not asking for 11 teenagers to be fielded. Our RW is DEAD, Dembele's inconsistency will still be more consistent and productive than what we have now.
I am not asking for JM to load the 1st team with harrop, tuanzebe e.t.c. but with truly world class talent. However when you see generational talents like Mbappe, Dembele you go for them

Exactly but fans will say their fees are too outrageous. Though Ronaldo has already achieved some successes before we sold him. At the same time, we need to know that players are over priced in today's transfer market. Hence if you are waiting to get with actual values, you're not going to achieve much.

Today, the 80mil paid by Real Madrid to buy C. Ronaldo back then now looks like they underpaid for him considering what he has achieved.

Inconsistency as if Ronaldo wasn't inconsistent when we bought him.

Our first three months EPL fixtures

CapitalCee:


You have to qualify for the community shield to be able to win it. Premier league and F.A cup winners play to determine who is the best. Since there is a trophy presentation and medals handed out, why will it not be a trophy. Chris smalling was sent off in the FA cup final and missed the community shield match, so its a competitive game in the English FA calendar. Downplay our trophies this season all you want, it doesn't removed it from our cabinet.

Is UEFA Super Cup not counted as a trophy?

Rooney: "A younger me would've been more frustrated about game time). I understand what's right & what's needed for the club." [pa]

Rooney: "I just have to make a decision in terms of a football decision, and that's what I'll do."

Rooney on his future: "More or less, yeah (made his decision) - There's lots of offers on the table, both in England & abroad."

José Mourinho is the 1st manager to win twice the Champions League and twice the UEFA Cup/Europa League. [Opta] #MUFC

MaziOmenuko:
Was really impressed with Herrera yesterday; dude was disciplined, played by the books and hardly made a mistake. Been hearing some rumors about Barca wanting him, we need to keep him at all cost.

Read the rumour also that Barca new manager said they must get him.

More....

More ......

Campeone.....

Campeone, campeone........

Herrera actually told Micki who wanted to stay behind to go and join them in the box where he scored the second goal.

Check out @ManUtdInPidgin's Tweet: https://twitter.com/ManUtdInPidgin/status/867618220169207808?s=08

RECORD: Manchester United join Juventus, Ajax, Bayern Munich and Barcelona as clubs to have won every international competition

Final piece.......

elampiro:


If you go back to when this argument started against Sawnsea, you would see that my complaint was particularly that a right footer took it, and so it should have been more predictable. We have now seen two in quick succession with DeGea - against Fernabache and Swansea.

Against Fernabache, I didn’t complain but against Swansea again from same position with tight foot, haba!!!

Van Der Sar even dived full length in one and got a finger on the ball.


Good night

Did you even watch the free kick?

Van der sar didn't dive or save a jack. He didn't make any move to save the ball.

The one you are differentiating between right footed and left footed doesn't make any difference. My poibt is that a very good free kick taker will score on a good day against any keeper and that doesn't make such keeper a bad keeper when we a talking of a keeper with good pedigree.

The two scored against VDS that we're talking about were left footed free kicks bent over the wall and scored with VDS not making a move to save any.

elampiro:



Show me where I said Van Der Sar had never conceded such. I said he rarely conceded freekicks cheaply, and when taken with a RIGHT FOOT from that position it is easier to predict. But DeGea conceded two right foot freekicks from there.

Your emphasis was that De Gea even didn't make a move to save the free kick and that he was rooted to the spot. That's the reason why I brought Van der sar into the picture because as good asbVan der sar was, he has also conceded free kicks standing rooted to the spot without making a move to save at all.

Does that now make Van der sar a bad keeper because of that?

Does that now make Pereira and Romero better than De Gea and Van der sar?

elampiro:


2006
2009 according to you.

That's 3 years apart. Those who saw 2009 wont even remember he was beaten in 2006.

The frequency is excusable. Van Der Sar almost got a hand to one. But DeGea stayed rooted in both inside one season. And Romero has saved twice, a new keeper comfortably saved one today.

It's no longer 'retiring Van der sar'.

It's no longer 'Van der sar always have control of his box'

Those are the ones I can remember without searching through the net. If I have the time to search, I'm sure I'll get more.

But odunharry remembered that he conceded that of 2006 also.

Odunharry:
One played with good defence in front him, the other played with shitty players who couldn't just stay fit for a month.
Its either they get injure in training or match.

One has played more minutes and the other has more saves and clean sheets..

VDS N DE GAE.


Elampiro wont remember the free kick he saved against Everton and the second half Oviedo strike he saved last season too.

I can see it's because of Romero's recent performances.

He did something similar at the beginning of 2015/16 season when De Gea was dropped for Romero because of his purported transfer to Real Madrid. I could remember that time when he was praising this same Romero after every match until he conceded two cheeky goals against Swansea City and beaten 2 - 1.

I like Romero because he is a good goal keeper and he has been a capable second choice for our team.

chrisley024:
Just copy the link and paste. with phone i replace m.you... with www.you

Oh! Okay, thank you.