4llerbuntu: So the team must provide tap ins for mr 50 million so that he can use that to pad his stats and appear to be working?

Hehehe. Notin wey we no go hear from coogar to support argument. There is a reason why van nistelrooy and ronaldo are not mentioned in the same breath.

Anyways, those gifs are 2 examples. If van persie had been reliant on those he would not have the reputation he has today and would not be at united. Even chicarito has not made a name for himself solely on that type of goal.

But mr 50 million is so good he does not have to do anything but wait in front of the GK to tap in. By pursuing these lines of argunent you are highlighting the very reason why he is a dud.

Even folks who may have been reasoning along with u should now see the light. Smh.

dayokanu: The goals other Chelsea players were scoring were they one on one vs the keeper?

coogar:

other chelsea players are not torres, you pleb!
can rooney score the kind of goals hernandez scores? can rooney even beat an offside trap and outpace his marker? what kind of idiotic question is this? playing to the strengths of torres is quite different to playing to the strengths of mata or ivanovic.

torres is the arrow head - he's the one that needs to be catered for, you gook!

dayokanu:

So whats Torres strenght? standing unmarked in front of an empty post and tapping in?

4llerbuntu: so torres made his rep @ liverpool by scoring tap ins hehehehe chai. what wontwe hear.

thankfully most folk hereabouts were old enough to witness torres at liverpool.

if those were tap ins, what was van nistelrooy or pippo inzaghi score? never knew d torres @liverpool was similar to inzaghi. oh what great hinsdight

coogar:
isn't that how he scored majority of his goals @ liverpool? a good service isolating him with the last man? why can't chelsea create these kind of situations for him?

dyabman: @Coogar

Isn't it so glaring to you that Torres has lost his confidence especially when facing stronger opposition? ,

coogar:
so torres must score against black cats otherwise he's finished? nothing to do with the service he gets? nothing to do with a striker is as good as his supporting cast?

jackbauersballs:
This coogar is an absolute dunce...
A catastrophic waste of space,resources, and sperm...

I cannot believe the dunce is already making excuses for Torres not scoring....BEFORE the game!

About creating chances....Sunderland's last game was against Norwich...where Anthony Pilkington...again PILKINGTON...scored a beaut after cutting in on Cuellar...

yet Dunce coogar says Torres cannot fashion chances for himself and must wait for tap-ins....

Sunderland have lost 4 of their last 6 games including losses to such powerhouses as Villa and Norwich and this Dunce is giving excuses already...
What an absolute dunce

coogar:

y[s]our father is the dunce here, he should have bagged it instead of letting his soldiers flow upstream the püssy....



of course? strikers just score without the help of their team mates, idiotic buffalo!



so pilkington scoring a beauty against sunderland automatically guarantees torres would score against sunderland? you have just scaled the height of stupidity!



get the fück out of here you nigerian avram grant! you have poop for brains. so because rafael scored against liverpool means aguero must also score against them? who are these troglodytes?



what a twerp!
chelsea have not won a league game in 7.....how are they any different to sunderland? you are a tool - anyone who reels this kinda pilkington theory should not even be allowed on the internet......go buy yourself crayons and colour a fücking zebra, you jobless mutt![/s]

get the fück out of here you nigerian avram grant! you have poop for brains. so because rafael scored against liverpool means aguero must also score against them? who are these troglodytes?

jackbauersballs:
The rantings of an irrelevant dunce....
Imagine the Dunce saying this?

coogar the hallowed dunce amongst dunces
coogar the prime dunce of a dunce bloodline...
SMH

coogar:


[s]you are a fool - look at what you are typing? pilkington scoring against sunderland means torres must definitely score? only a billy goat could have reasoned this way - you have the brain capacity of a culex mosquito!



spoken like a true homoerotic zombie.....
you have the intelligence quotient of a pubic louse - whoever introduced you to nairaland must be running a circus cos you are a fat clown! useless analogies that you expect in a beer parlour when people are drunk......"pilkington scored against sunderland therefore torres must score against sunderland". i said it - ibime's kinsmen in ijaw have taken over nairaland with their sheer idiocy![/s]

jackbauersballs:
Again the dunce belches out his lunacy...
It is expected that a player bought for the purpose of scoring goals (for the record-breaking sum of 50 million pounds sterling), should be able to do so against one of the worst teams in the league currently, especially against a team(sunderland) where a less-expensive, less-technically skilled player(Pilkington), supported by less creative players(Hoolahan,Snodgrass Vs MaZaCar), could do it with ease....

Only a dunce would suggest otherwise...Only coogar the dunce..
Coogar the prince of all dunces...

coogar:

and yet messi couldn't score against celtic.....messi(the world's best player) couldn't score against nigeria's fat defenders at the world cup.....you shame yourself when you come up with nonsense like this....nothing is guaranteed. it's not a secret that sunderland plays to the strength of fletcher far better than chelsea play to the strengths of torres.

there's a difference between having quality players and getting the best out of those quality players. a team of selfish world class players would lose to an ojuelegba team who works hard and looks more organised. this is why you have upsets in football. why didn't hazard score against west ham? how did city's world class team fare against ajax? you are a fool!



i am sure you must be embarrassed with your idiotic claim......bottom clubs have taken points off top teams - it's not about quality alone - the work ethics matter too. goals would not score itself via quality alone - the quality must work for it. unfortunately, chelsea are still in la-la land with how to get the best out of their arrowhead....and you want torres to take the ball from cech, dribble his way to the opponent's goal and score because he's priced @ £50m? stop smoking your pubic hair - it's not working for you!

jackbauersballs:

It is expected that a player bought for the purpose of scoring goals (for the record-breaking sum of 50 million pounds sterling), should be able to do so against one of the worst teams in the league currently, especially against a team(sunderland) where a less-expensive, less-technically skilled player(Pilkington), supported by less creative players(Hoolahan,Snodgrass Vs MaZaCar), could do it with ease....

coogar:
so torres must score against black cats otherwise he's finished? nothing to do with the service he gets? nothing to do with a striker is as good as his supporting cast?

coogar:
torres is the arrow head - he's the one that needs to be catered for, you gook!

jackbauersballs: The upcoming game against Sunderland will provide a big opportunity for Torres to build on his confidence following his good showing earlier this week...

If Torres doesn't net against the black cats, then it's over for him...

coogar:

that was your comment last night, you halfwit!
why are you shifting the post? have you lost your ability to read? are you dyslexic?

do you suffer from the pink eye or perhaps you are suffering with instantaneous amnesia....fückever your ailment is, go and sort it out and stop fiddling with the facts......

now, try again to wiggle yourself out of the swamp of piss you have found yourself, you inscrutable dork!

jackbauersballs: The upcoming game against Sunderland will provide a big opportunity for Torres to build on his confidence following his good showing earlier this week...

If Torres doesn't net against the black cats, then it's over for him...

jackbauersballs: The upcoming game against Sunderland will provide a big opportunity for Torres to build on his confidence following his good showing earlier this week...

If Torres doesn't net against the black cats, then it's over for him...

nateevs:


If you want to make a case of "an expected event" - "NOT GIVEN" as you put it - then you have to withdraw this quoted statement.
You can make both points of view co-exist within the same interpretation.


Also, sometimes your argument seems as though any striker incapable of scoring against Sunderland is rubbish.
It may not be what you set out to do but it's turned out to be that all your points are not within the same context.
What you are now trying to do is make them all seem like the same thing. They aren't.

jackbauersballs:


Now in his last game in Europe, he netted a brace...which should be good for his confidence...

Is it to much for me to EXPECT Mr. 50 million pounds to build on that and score against one of the worst teams in the league?

Indeed if he doesn't score against Sunderland, then he is well and truly finished....

Indeed if he doesn't score against Sunderland, then he is well and truly finished....

nateevs: I don't need to be referred to any post as an explanation of what you said.
I am basing my opinion on the back of what you said.

According to you it is "NOT A GIVEN" that Torres will score against Sunderland.
You then cannot at the same time conclude that

jackbauersballs:

Like I said earlier, EVERY striker has a bad day at the office from time to time...

However, we don't EXPECT Rooney to have constant bad days...

We don't EXPECT RVP to have constant bad days...

Now we know Torrid Torres hasn't had it good this season, but he had a GOOD game this week...

And I EXPECT him to build on that against 16th place Sunderland today.

If he does not perform today, then it becomes obvious that his mid-week form was a fluke.

And so I assert AGAIN:

If Torres doesn't net against the black cats, then it's over for him...

jackbauersballs:
Do I have to spoon feed you?

The above statement indicates my High EXPECTATIONS for him to score in his next game...

Chelsea have had some tough games recently including Liverpool,Man-city and in-form West-ham...

Now in his last game in Europe, he netted a brace...which should be good for his confidence...

Is it to much for me to EXPECT Mr. 50 million pounds to build on that and score against one of the worst teams in the league?

Indeed if he doesn't score against Sunderland, then he is well and truly finished....

You still remain the crown prince of dunce-dom...and the poster boy for verbose but intellectually-bankrupt dunces everywhere...

coogar:

torres might get injured in the game, he might get sent off, he might have a bad game, cech might get sent off with torres made to be the sacrificial lamb to bring on the 2nd goalie. chelsea might lose 3 players to red that would render any chelsea attack non-existent......


torres career would not start or end because of his goals or lack of goals in today's game.

he might have a bad game