lalaboi: We just have to wait for the next goal-less run so we can have another excuse as to how the team doesnt support torress enough. .

Same ninja that misses open goals, one on ones etc. I'd rather say it as it is. He's been poo poo. The problem is with him! Not the team!

debosky:

Na wa for una - all strikers go through barren runs, but I'm sure the moment Torres doesn't score for a couple of games, y'all will be all over him like white on rice. Torres can't win with NL Chelski fans.

As for missing open goals - RVP yakubued a decent chance two weeks ago but wasn't constantly lampooned for it. E saanu aje.

A-40:

RVP has 41 goals in less than 1 and a half seasons
Torres only has 12 you don't expect us to flog them with the same pankeere

Isn't this like the 4th barren run of Torres since joining Chelsea? Has he shown any consistency? A couple of games indeed! You expect everyone to be quiet when your highest paid striker goes scoreless for months!!

BlueDiva: The issue is that Torres is his own problem, not the team nor the manager.
Only him can decide to be a dud or a world class player.

Exactly Lady, Something i Once wrote about On here as 'Psychosis' -- Though from a Tactical Point of View, Rafa have really Influenced his Game

BlueDiva:

Chei, see insult.
I nor blame you sha. I blame NL

Not Just NL Dear, Me think the Dude missed out on loads of Substantial Home Training -- Believe Me!

BlueDiva: Long long tory.

Nothing has changed at Chelsea, same passes, same everything.
Two major changes are Luiz no longer dashes forward and Moses now starts in place of Oscar.

Benitez has somehow found a way to motivate the dud or he is going through one of those 'Torres is back' phase.
Either way, i like it, after all he was bought to score goals not keep shape.

BlueDiva: Long long tory.

Nothing has changed at Chelsea, same passes, same everything.
Two major changes are Luiz no longer dashes forward and Moses now starts in place of Oscar.

debosky:
Nothing has changed in one breath, and then she lists two 'major changes' in the next. . . .na wa!

I suggest you watch MOTD and listen to the analysis of Alan Shearer regarding the 'differences' in Chelski's (both Torres and teammates) attacking play.

El Guapo: Coogar Stop Posting Sh1tz Here Ok -- Your Pundits Suck. . .More Sentimental than anything I could think Of.

Gaggi: This A40 dey make too much sense even as he is not a Chelsea fan. O boy take a drag frm my blunt.

debosky:

Agreed, but they are both strikers who should be given certain allowances is all I'm saying which should include missing the occasional sitter. I'm not disputing that Torres has underperformed.

debosky:
What I'm talking about is giving a player a fresh start. Yes it's another of many, but given that he is the highest paid striker who isn't going anywhere soon, it's worth giving him that fresh start.

debosky:
I said a couple of games as you noted - I never said anyone should be quiet 'for months'.

A-40:

Can you explain why his chance conversion ratio is so damn low?

A-40:

This is like the 4th manager already. Hehe how many fresh starts does this ninja need?

I didn't know you meant that literally you know for Torres a couple of games can also be a couple of months

4llerbuntu: now im pretty sure nateevs has not been following this argument.

or he simply sufers from selective amnesia.


go and check coogars posts. u will find ur stats there. the same ones he used to argue that chelsea dont create chances

smh

Ibime: May the yarning and analysis continue. . . all I know is Torres aint got it no more!!

4llerbuntu:
go and check coogars posts. u will find ur stats there. the same ones he used to argue that chelsea dont create chances
smh

coogar:

shut up, fat ibime.
your stance changes more than the british weather on football issues.



which stats are we talking about? clear cut chances?
do chelsea create those for torres? it's easy for any tool like ibime to come here and castigate torres for not scoring but are the chances laid on the plate for him? look at the last 4 goals rooney has scored for bleeps' sake - they were scored from clear cut chances....unlike the half chances chelsea fans expect torres to be scoring from. chelsea create 2-3 chances per game and baaaaaaang - they expect torres to score a hatrick from them when falcao himself only scores 1 out of the 4 chances he gets!

nateevs:
Your whole post boils down to this. Low conversion rate my yansh! I am supposed to take this because you said it right? This is another of the long list of "unproven beliefs". Give us the stats of the number of chances that Torres has against conversion. This is the annoying thing about it all, you probably have never seen the stats before but you are confidently regurgitating what others have said. This is like the millionth thing you saying without back up.
Find the stats. Let's compare to other strikers, only then can you confirm that it is low. Before that, I am not following the gullible and swallowing what you have to say without proof.
Once again, you are the one who remains wrong until you can back up your claims.

Oya show us the stats.

nateevs:
Oh Coogar you spoke too soon. The stats I am asking them to find is a proper nail to the cross.
In revealing that, several other things will be revealed.

That's the reason they won't find the stats. I await the responses.

debosky:


As many as Roman Abramovich is willing to give him. Why peeps dey vex? Is it your money?

Hehehe. . .I told y'all Torres isn't a mere mortal - na only Baba God wey fit talk say a day is like a thousand years.

A-40:
http://www.eplindex.com/7625/premier-league-strikers-comparison-opta-stats.html

These are for last season at the midway point

As you can see from this link Torres's strike rate is in the region of a washed Drogba,Anelka and another flop like Andy Carroll of this world. Even the much maligned Daniel Sturridge has double Torres's conversion rate. Out of 30 strikers or thereabout he is in the bottom 5

dayokanu: This was Rooneys first goal yesterday. Was this a clear cut chance? Did he not have 2 defenders surrounding him before he created space to his right and got the shot away?

dayokanu: I got the below from a Liverpool blog for last season figures

RVP 21%
Roone 23%y
Aguero 23%
BA 21%
Dempsey 15%
Adebayor 18%
Ciise 42% - Best
Balotelli 25%
Holt 22%
Jelavic 31%
Graham 18%
Torres 13%
Suarez 11% - Worst

A-40:
http://www.eplindex.com/7625/premier-league-strikers-comparison-opta-stats.html

These are for last season at the midway point

As you can see from this link Torres's strike rate is in the region of a washed Drogba,Anelka and another flop like Andy Carroll of this world. Even the much maligned Daniel Sturridge has double Torres's conversion rate. Out of 30 strikers or thereabout he is in the bottom 5

dayokanu:

Look no further than this



Torres Michu and Suarez have the highest number of minutes and starts Yet Torres has the lowest clear cut chance conversion among those 3

Torres has the worst minute per goal of all the strikers compared, Tied for the least shot on target with Giroud, , Has the lowest shots off target (What we have been saying Torres is too timid to take shots) The worst min/per shots on target

coogar:

even this stat is misleading.....
torres has added 2 goals more and he does not take set pieces...bar the pen on Saturday
van persie, ba, suarez, defoe take penalties on a regular - penalty/freekick are clear cut chances(i hope you are aware)!

dayokanu:
Every stat that shows us Torres is dud is misleading Fellaini Michu dont take penalties do they?
The stats was taken as at a week ago.

coogar:

a week ago, torres has 4 goals - now he has 6
in that same week, some of the strikers on that list completed 90 mins and did not add to their goals tally - so you don't think the stats are misleading? compute the latest stats this week and get back to us!

dayokanu:
So we can say at least from the stats available, AS AT 7 days ago Torres was the worst striker in the league. Agreed?