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Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by justli: 9:10pm On May 31, 2020
chatinent:

So tell me about your one and true Church.

The thing is we don't believe in a one true church. We believe in one living word of God and one body of christ. This is why I can leave a church if the pastor becomes fake.

Your salvation is not tied to any church but accepting the wholesome sacrifice on the cross.
He said it was finished. The sacrifice was sufficient and the only thing needed.

Gathering of the brethren is profitable. But as long as the gathering is in line with the scripture.
Let no man deceive you, you can read the Bible and understand it for yourself.
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Investnow2017: 9:12pm On May 31, 2020
SILVERLINES:
brother I'm not yet convince on this one

Now please ask specific questions. What I mean is are you saying the Bible quotations supplied are not helpful or you think it is a matter we can rationalize with our own mind?

God said don't eat blood. Do you believe that? And God explained in detail when giving the law: don't eat blood. Pour it into the dust when you happen to kill any animal to eat. Don't eat the blood. And he went further, blood should be used only for sacrifice as atonement.
All these laws where given before Jesus Christ came. God emphasized this law because he knew that such blood sacrifice was pointing to the all important sacrifice of his own son Jesus Christ. And so Christ's shedding of his perfect blood is the reason why we can maintain a righteous standing with God today.
So after Jesus had left for heaven, when the Apostles were writing to Gentiles who would later become Christians, they made it clear that God has commanded we abstain from blood. Blood cannot rightly be used as medicine. It is wrong. The only blood that saves life is the shed blood of Jesus Christ. Other than that any other use of blood is a violation of God's law. It takes Faith to keep this law, and that is the faith all true Christians must possess. Without faith, the Bible says, we cannot please God well, Heb 11:6.

Or do you think that blood transfusion does not amount to eating blood?
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Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Nobody: 9:14pm On May 31, 2020
Cryptofxt10:
my own be say, if na only 144000 people dey go heaven, then me dey among ...

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Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by justli: 9:15pm On May 31, 2020
chatinent:

You must think KJV was written by an angel in heaven. Those scholars copied from the original manuscripts too as did JW writers.

The problem here is that, every other translation is in agreement. No translation changes the meaning of the text by inserting words to suit their teaching except the jw translation. This is blasphemy. This is adding to the word of God.
Yet to deceive people , they will be quick to tell you they accept the KJV.
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by chival(f): 9:17pm On May 31, 2020
chatinent:

Narrate to me where you saw it please.

Sure. Back in my youth service days, I had a corps member friend in the corners lodge. We are both Igbo, and we served in Akwa Ibom State
Now this friend of mine was highly spiritual, and attuned to God but she disliked Ibibios very passionately. One morning, I was woken by a female voice shouting rather animatedly in Ibibio. I assumed some of the indigenes were having a brawl, but it soon occurred to me it was only one voice speaking. I got up to investigate, and found my friend speaking ibibio very loudly on the porch. Other corps members were watching. At the end of it, when we told her she had been speaking Ibibio, she was mad at us and claimed she was not, that she was just praying. She obviously had no idea what she did. The indigenes around us however got the message.
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by DavidEsq(m): 9:18pm On May 31, 2020
jeff1993:
I remember when I was in Ss3 ... I had this beautiful class mate of mine called Uchechi ...she was a very funny and lively girl and she was a Witness.

One fateful day she had an accident on her way to write NECO exam .... She lost a lot of blood and was the hospital requested for blood transfusion but the parents refused ... Everyday we went to the hospital we literally watched our classmate tether on the brink of death just because of a stupid manmade ideology.

Our principal had to involve social service authorities from the local govt and when they intervened, they took over the case and called the senior brother who was in another state to come and donate blood since the parents were adamant.

That was how Uchechi's life was saved but the unity of their family was never saved because she quitted the church when she went to Uni and her parents kind of partially disowned her.
How do u partially disown someone?
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Jokerman(m): 9:21pm On May 31, 2020
Chommybaby:



You know....

I never asked you to quote the scriptures OK...

Like I said 'I believe we all will be judged by what we believe' For example: As JW don't accept blood transfusion and I do doesn't make me a sinner or disqualifies me from heaven, neither does it make the JWs killers for letting their people die for lack of blood..
So our faith judges us....

Cos you won't tell me that Muslims, traditionalists, Buddhists and the rest of other faiths will be 'cast into a lake of fire' and you being a Christian will make heaven...

And the way you do much believe in hades\hell makes me wonder if you aren't a sadist...

Hello ma... As Christians, we are supposed to bring up scriptures...

I believe in Jesus ma, not in hell

Jesus is the only way to heaven ma...
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by SILVERLINES: 9:22pm On May 31, 2020
Investnow2017:


Now please ask specific questions. What I mean is are you saying the Bible quotations supplied are not helpful or you think it is a matter we can rationalize with our own mind?

God said don't eat blood. Do you believe that? And God explained in detail when giving the law: don't eat blood. Pour it into the dust when you happen to kill any animal to eat. Don't eat the blood. And he went further, blood should be used only for sacrifice as atonement.
All these laws where given before Jesus Christ came. God emphasized this law because he knew that such blood sacrifice was pointing to the all important sacrifice of his own son Jesus Christ. And so Christ's shedding of his perfect blood is the reason why we can maintain a righteous standing with God today.
So after Jesus had left for heaven, when the Apostles were writing to Gentiles who would later become Christians, they made it clear that God has commanded we abstain from blood. Blood cannot rightly be used as medicine. It is wrong. The only blood that saves life is the shed blood of Jesus Christ. Other than that any other use of blood is a violation of God's law. It takes Faith to keep this law, and that is the faith all true Christians must possess. Without faith, the Bible says, we cannot please God well, Heb 11:6.

Or do you think that blood transfusion does not amount to eating blood?
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what exactly will a Jehovah witness medical tell a dying patient patient who may need blood transfusion to prolong his/her life?
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Narijoel(m): 9:24pm On May 31, 2020
Hairyrapunzel:



So you believe your jehovah will come kill/slaughter/destroy/murder/commit the greatest genocide against non jws/pagans/wicked/worldly/evil/unrighteous people because they chose not to unquestionably obey 8 old imperfect, uninspired and fallible men who err in doctrinal matters and organisation and reside in new York as the only channel of communication between God and man today?
So that you people will inherit earth and their properties abi?

Well, sorry to tell you that the only place it will ever happen is inside your head and your watchtower magazines.

You will end up waiting just like your founding fathers and die of disappointment like they did
Pele Hairyrapunzel, I guess you are an atheist because of how you expressed your thoughts above. Sounds very familiar. If you are religious then you need a lot of cane.
The Almighty God, Jehovah does not need you to validate the way he chooses to rid the earth of wicked people, you can take that up with him.
While you accuse him of an impending genocide, he is busy organizing the salvation of millions of people around the earth to survive and live forever while warning the wicked including you to change, so you don't experience that divine judgement. He did it before and would do it again finally for all time.
Your distorted thought of our loving heavenly father on this platform is inconsequential to his divine plan so quit trying to deny it. It is no use trying to fight a powerful unseen being like Jehovah.
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Antichristus: 9:25pm On May 31, 2020
Sigh.
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Investnow2017: 9:26pm On May 31, 2020
tete7000:

X
Argue with these:


1. Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”
John 20:28
- Did you see Jesus told Thomas he was wrong in calling him Lord and God?

2. “Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!” At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds. John 8:58‭-‬59
-, I hope you know why they wanted to stone Jesus? Because they felt he blasphemed by indirectly equating himself to God by using the same name "I am" that God used to referred to himself while revealing himself to Moses in the wilderness for himself(Jesus). God told Moses I am that I am. Jesus in turn said before Abraham was, I am... A present tense.

3. In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus: Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage; Philippians 2:5‭-‬6
- Paul inferred that Jesus is equal to God


You people have a fixed mindset, you are incapable at looking at the scripture from a broad and holistic mindset. You have a narrow and conditioned mindset and seek for passages in the scripture to justify what you have made up your mind to believe. You say hell cannot exist because God is not wicked forgetting that hell is not about fire but about pain of eternal separation from God. In order to set ground for that justification you first denied immortality of the soul. You said there is no distinction between body and soul. How do you reconcile that with a passage that says "You must Love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength"?
Three distinct elements of man - heart, soul and strength are mentioned in that passage. Or how do you reconcile that belief with the passage where Paul wrote "May God himself, the God of peace, sanctify you through and through. May your whole spirit, soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.1 Thessalonians 5:23

How can any sound mind who have read Bible through and through deny hell with fire and brimstone exist after so many references of Jesus to it. You guys disgust me with the heresies you spread around.

What do you have to say about a clear statement made by Jesus Christ where he said: MY FATHER IS GREATER THAN I AM? John 14:28. Let's take it please one by one.
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Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Antichristus: 9:26pm On May 31, 2020
Sigh. The worst to engage with. JW is a cult. Don’t bother to reply me, OP.

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Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by tunize(m): 9:27pm On May 31, 2020
o.p nor vex i gat just two questions for you

first: if your child is dying and the doctor tells you that you're the only one that can give him/her blood what will you do? save the child by donating ur blood or allow the child to die?

Secondly, was it in anyway or anywr stated in the bible that blood transfusion is bad? if yes what part of the bible?
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by justli: 9:27pm On May 31, 2020
Narijoel:

Is Jehovah's Witnesses a false religion?

No

So instead of wasting your time, trying to mislead people. Take your "truth" to your disorganized denominations with conflicting teachings and doctrines caused by their independent thoughts.
Leave JWs with their united thought which unifies them around the world, cause that very fact is one of reasons why they are convinced that they've identified true religion.

Like I said before, you're afraid to probe your faith. Why? Because you don't want to open the cane of worm. Jw is a cult group, shrouded in secrecy.
They dismember you as soon as you begin to ask questions.
But I wouldn't blame you, the brain washing is deep.

Just like the guy I was engaging up there,
Even having shown him where Jesus was telling the people to feel his flesh.

Even when Jesus was telling them that spirits don't have flesh and bones, meaning he is here with them not as a spirit, the brainwashed mofo is still asking me what then did Jesus sacrificed.

He wants me to tell him that the sacrifice was the cleansing blood of Jesus.
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by DavidEsq(m): 9:29pm On May 31, 2020
wisewordd:
Why don't you guys marry outside your church but your members have sexual intercourse with non members.

Why don't you guys accept other churches books and listen to their preaching but you go around knocking on people's doors.

Why don't you guys enter other churches if invited to weddings or anniversaries, which I know you do celebrate.

Why?
Make we kuku use am sing: grin
Why oh! Why oh! Why oh!

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Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by justli: 9:37pm On May 31, 2020
joyandfaith:


of course, you have to start from God, Bible, Jehovah's witness

my conclusion -all true.

have u checked for your religion if it is false?

Yes. I grew up in an Orthodox Church. But once it was time for me to understand my faith and not what I was taught as a kid, I probed it with prayers

God revealed the truth to me

If one seeks knowledge, he is rich in mercy he will help us find the truth.

Even though I liked the church I grew up in, I have to see clearly that a lot of the church's traditions were not biblical.

It was hard, but one message stood out: we don't owe allegiance to men and their traditions we should only be guided by the word of God.
And if you are wise you have to be able to discern a false religion.
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Narijoel(m): 9:39pm On May 31, 2020
justli:


Like I said before, you're afraid to probe your faith. Why? Because you don't want to open the cane of worm. Jw is a cult group, shrouded in secrecy.
They dismember you as soon as you begin to ask questions.
But I wouldn't blame you, the brain washing is deep.

Just like the guy I was engaging up there,
Even having shown him where Jesus was telling the people to feel his flesh.

Even when Jesus was telling them that spirits don't have flesh and bones, meaning he is here with them not as a spirit, the brainwashed mofo is still asking me what then did Jesus sacrificed.

He wants me to tell him that the sacrifice was the cleansing blood of Jesus.
Have you finished probing your own religion? or there is no need to, because their can of worms are clearly visible, open for all to see. No detective work need.

Uncle, As a Witness of Jehovah, I am beyond convinced that Jehovah's Witnesses practice true worship and they are the only christian group doing Jehovah's will today.

If you have a problem with that, kindly attend to it yourself since you have also resolved within yourself not to open your eyes to see the truth while you still can.
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Narijoel(m): 9:42pm On May 31, 2020
justli:


Yes. I grew up in an Orthodox Church. But once it was time for me to understand my faith and not what I was taught as a kid, I probed it with prayers

God revealed the truth to me

If one seeks knowledge, he is rich in mercy he will help us find the truth.

Even though I liked the church I grew up in, I have to see clearly that a lot of the church's traditions were not biblical.

It was hard, but one message stood out: we don't owe allegiance to men and their traditions we should only be guided by the word of God.
And if you are wise you have to be able to discern a false religion.
Interesting, so where do you worship now?
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Mcslize: 9:42pm On May 31, 2020
Maximus69:


by their FRUIT you will know them! Matthew 7:20

Jesus is the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6}

Someone just gave you a 100% assurance PEACE OF MIND in marriage, please which group is that? smiley

Jehovah witness organization. I have never seen or heard any issue of infidelity from the married ones unlike what we see in the society today where a woman will be sneaking out to sleep with a younger man outside. I noticed witness wives don't do that. Like keeping illicit affairs aside their marriages. Never have I heard such matters arising from them.

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Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by justli: 9:49pm On May 31, 2020
Investnow2017:


How did he now go back to heaven? Physically? What Jesus said to Thomas that a spirit does not have flesh and blood substantiate what I have earlier said. You are not getting something clear here. A spirit is a higher form of life. While a spirit can materialize and take on human form, a human flesh cannot turn into a spirit.
So the scriptures you have cited corroborate my point. If he resurrected as a physical human how was he able to ascend to heaven?
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Why did Thomas say: " unless I feel the wounds on his hands I won't believe"

Because Thomas knew resurrection was bodily resurrection.

And why was Jesus body still having the wounds of his piercing,?

Why did Jesus say "destroy this body and in three days I'll raise it up again"

If resurrection was only of the spirit, why was Jesus emphasizing on raising the body again"?
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by justli: 9:52pm On May 31, 2020
Narijoel:

Interesting, so where do you worship now?

I worship in a small church not too far from my street.

I worship there because I like the pastor's understanding of the word of God and he has been a good spiritual guide.
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Investnow2017: 9:55pm On May 31, 2020
tete7000:


If I follow your logic, nothing awaits me after death, I simply go out of existence, so you already contradict yourself. There is no punishment no pain. So tell me why should I bother following Jehovah witnessing when I know the worst punishment is that I go out of existence. No hell, no pain, no sorrow. Why do I need to stop enjoying my sins and repent self? To what end and for what purpose? I don't need your new heaven on earth.

So your reason for your purported serving God is prompted by the fear of hellfire. This is a big revelation about yourself. You do not love God, your avowed show is simply motivated by fear and not love. I now see why you love and are obsessed with hellfire. Well dear, you need to study the Bible to KNOW God, I don't mean having some perverted knowledge about him or being familiar with some Bible verses, you need to KNOW God, whom the Bible says is LOVE.
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Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Investnow2017: 10:05pm On May 31, 2020
WINDSOW:
Can u see how he twisted the Bible to suit their belief. That's how they are. There is nothing u ll tell him to make him believe u. They are trained to be heart-hardened like Pharaoh. Stupid people!
JW ll be explaining the Bible using scientific illustrations. They don't understand the power of the Holy Spirit. Little wonder to refer to Him as "God active force" in their werey bible. Using their concocted Awake magazines to delude people. Tell them your view, Nba!

Is it Christian to call someone STUPID simply because you do not agree with his belief? Are you aware of what the Bible says about the use of the tongue?
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Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Investnow2017: 10:10pm On May 31, 2020
justli:


The thing is we don't believe in a one true church. We believe in one living word of God and one body of christ. This is why I can leave a church if the pastor becomes fake.

Your salvation is not tied to any church but accepting the wholesome sacrifice on the cross.
He said it was finished. The sacrifice was sufficient and the only thing needed.

Gathering of the brethren is profitable. But as long as the gathering is in line with the scripture.
Let no man deceive you, you can read the Bible and understand it for yourself.

So the whole Babel of confusion in religion is comfortable with you. Right?
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Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Nobody: 10:10pm On May 31, 2020
Mcslize:


Jehovah witness organization. I have never seen or heard any issue of infidelity from the married ones unlike what we see in the society today where a woman will be sneaking out to sleep with a younger man outside. I noticed witness wives don't do that. Like keeping illicit affairs aside their marriages. Never have I heard such matters arising from them.

Well that's your own cup of coffee Sir! smiley

Some people here don't care about all that even if Jehovah's Witnesses women are like angels from heaven, what critics will tell you is "i hate them"

I never thought of that before i became one of them, all i knew back then is the LOVE JOY and PEACE permeating their midst as if God is stationed in their Organization! smiley

God bless you Sir! smiley
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by freshboi88: 10:14pm On May 31, 2020
chatinent:

If Jesus is God, who was Jesus praying to in the mountains during his earthly existence?

Isaiah 9:6.....ridicules Ur question.. it's says Jesus is Mighty God. Check Ur new World Translation
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Boriqua(m): 10:15pm On May 31, 2020
Anywhere you see Jehova Wickedness Run for your dear life. Around June 2018 I went to partner with one of their elders who is around 68yrs in an estate business he welcomed me and asked me to sign an agreement with him but I refused, I told him that his is old enough to be my father instead we share our profit 60 / 40%. People, this my goes for evangelism around rumuomasi and environs. I never knew this was the antichrist himself.

This man and his family trapped me spiritually and was using my stars for his business and the worst is he doesn't let me know and no kobo will I recieve when I spent 10 months I carried out a review and understood that he was making money more than me then protested he asked me to leave and locked the place went home continue manipulating me at night.

He went ahead and conduct wedding ceremony between me and him spiritually am his bride while his the groom. He used GPS to be tracking my position or location for contact. At night he comes in the have sex with me.

He surrounded his compound with dogs and doesn't go far from his compound to avoid sudden attack. I reported to his parish hall head they weren't surprised and no action has been taking against him instead they are snapping pictures with him and the new car he bought through Destiny snatching.

Jehovah witness is evil...
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Nobody: 10:16pm On May 31, 2020
zudozz:


ps wt does this ve to do with jehova witness girls not taken men from other denominations seriously?

If you're not one of Jehovah's Witnesses, you're more or less an atheist (unbeliever)
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by tete7000(m): 10:17pm On May 31, 2020
Investnow2017:


So your reason for your purported serving God is prompted by the fear of hellfire. This is a big revelation about yourself. You do not love God, your avowed show is simply motivated by fear and not love. I now see why you love and are obsessed with hellfire. Well dear, you need to study the Bible to KNOW God, I don't mean having some perverted knowledge about him or being familiar with some Bible verses, you need to KNOW God, whom the Bible says is LOVE.
.

So why do you think Jesus chose to suffer so grievously? So that we won't go to extinction or so that we won't suffer eternal damnation? There are two folds of serving God, yes first is love but beyond that to avoid eternal punishment. Jesus came for the sole purpose of saving man from eternal damnation while revealing to him the love of God.
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by freshboi88: 10:17pm On May 31, 2020
chatinent:

This is a religious issue rather than a medical one. Both the Old and New Testaments clearly command us to abstain from blood. ( Genesis 9:4; Leviticus 17:10; Deuteronomy 12:23; Acts 15:28, 29) Also, God views blood as representing life. (Leviticus 17:14) So we avoid taking blood not only in obedience to God but also out of respect for him as the Giver of life. Remember, he is the 'Giver of Life.'

Do u know Jesus is also the giver of life
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by tete7000(m): 10:21pm On May 31, 2020
Investnow2017:


What do you have to say about a clear statement made by Jesus Christ where he said: MY FATHER IS GREATER THAN I AM? John 14:28. Let's take it please one by one.
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If Bible is inerrant, find a way to reconcile that with the passages I have shown you. I believe the quoted passages contradict what you have always believed. Do the rest yourself, I am not interested in going the way with you. However while you do, be sure of one thing - the scripture doesn't contradict itself. If genuinely search for truth rather than some indoctrination, you will surely find it. You shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free.
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by freshboi88: 10:21pm On May 31, 2020
Janosky:

Acts 15:28-29, "ABSTAIN from blood".
If you were my physician and gave me instruction to ABSTAIN from Coke, I went ahead to buy needles and ingest Coke, have I obeyed your instructions to ABSTAIN from Coke?

C this one way run from me. Janosky y is Jehovah called Mighty God in Jeremiah?

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