Brilliant points given so far.
For me, it is shocking that no southern governor or leader has gone on air to demand for ,at least, a review of the NYSC program. This proves what I believe is the major problem in our respective societies, North or South- lack of love for one another. Since their own kids are never affected, they can't be bothered.
Well I hope those southerners who in their cosmopolitan pretensions are always ready to defend the NYSC are seeing and hearing. The program needs to be scrapped or at least reviewed. And by 'review' I mean keeping the individual in his state of residence or choice. The 17 Southern governors need to come together and speak with one voice on this matter. NYSC is too basic for them not to be able to do that. At the same time, I'm not as naive as to expect the Governors to do/say anything, so my advice would be aimed at those who are likely to bear the brunt; do not let your kids out of their comfort zones for some stoopid mandatory bull-! Influence, Cajole, Induce, Bribe, Do what you can to protect them!

I knew this would happen after the alliance talks failed. I knew the CPC would turn round to blame the ACN for their crappy performance in the south-west.

@ileke-idi.
Pls try to be mature. You think Yorubas don't get killed in situations like this?

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Are u sure you are a final-year student in a university?
Smh.

Quite interesting. Absolutely true that true greatness does not lie in wealth. Even though I had not heard of this gem from Northern Nigeria until now, I agree that people like this are the reason our dear fatherland has not been destroyed like the biblical sodom and gomorrah.

Its like my weedman aint even aware there is an election on saturday. He has been so silent. I wonder why.

I'm also disappointed in Arsene Wenger. Why? I suspect this man hates Nigeria . Remember the wickedness he showed to our darling Papilo, Kanu Nwankwo?

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Hoodrats don't abort your wombs,
We need more warriors soon
Sent from the sun, stars and the moon,
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Niggaz don't want beef, they vegetarian
Scared of p__sy, came thru a caesarian,

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Nas is a legendary artiste and I'm a huge fan.
Right now I'm feeling the Nas and Damian Marley collaboration. Damian is also a hugely talented artiste and they really completed each other well,

I guess am doing doing this only because I'm a little idle but its something I've always had the intention of doing. I have always wanted to put the religion ISLAM in the front burner of rational, albeit fiery, discourse on nairaland. If there is a similar topic, pardon me.

I wish to state that this piece basically focuses on the so-called 'liberal' muslims predominantly found in the southern part of Nigeria from the get go. This is because some other muslim folks have a clearer idea of 'what's up' and are pretty comfortable with it.

Anytime a bunch of muslims carry out a terrorist attack, the first thing we hear from the muslim camp is how Islam is a religion of peace and how it does not condone killing etc. The funny thing is this statement is actually close to the truth. The reality is that its not the truth. This is where there is confusion. Islam is potentially a peaceful religion. Islam would be a peaceful religion only when the whole world recognises " Allah as the one true God and Prophet Mohammed as his last messenger".

The Quran, as 'REVEALED' to Prophet Muhammad, just like the Bible, is full of contradictions. What makes it easier to deal with the Quran's contradictions is a principle contained in the same Quran which instructs believers to regard all the commandments in the book as the final word of Allah. it goes further to tell believers that in case there are any contradictions, the latter passage of the Quran should have precedence over the former. Being a lawyer by training, this is quite sophisticated if you ask me. The simple truth, which admittedly is no longer simple to many muslims, is that the peaceful passages in the Quran are all in the earlier books revealed to the prophet. As the book 'gathered in momentum', it became more violent and intolerant. Thus by the principle provided in the Quran, the latter passages must prevail in the event of any contradiction.

So, this is what it is- Islam is in a constant war-mode with the rest of the world until we all direct our prayers to the kabbah in medinah. When that day finally comes, the world will see what a peaceful religion Islam actually is!

Liberal muslims include those who agitate for better rights for women in Islamic societies, those who clamour for democracy, those who believe the Sharia legal/penal system should be watered down to 'meet the demands and sensitivity of the 21st century' etc. I have met a good number of such muslims, some are even family. What they like to emphasize is that the hot-headed muslims, the so-called fanatics are just misguided muslims who have mis-understood the tenets of Islam. Listen fellas, if you haven't heard this before somewhere, I hate to be the one to break it to you, that these seemingly good people are actually the ones who have misunderstood Islam and the hot-head you are so quick to call fanatic or misguided is actually the true muslim. The Quran has instructed the muslim to lie, kill and oppress when he is dealing with non-muslims. The muslims who do not accept the sharia as prescribed by the Quran and the Sunnah are misguided and are only muslims by name. The muslim who wants to run a society with concepts different from the one provided in the Quran and Sunnah is misguided. The muslim who wants equal rights for women and minorities should seek another religion instead of trying to reform the word of Allah.

I heard Gov. Fashola of Lagos is a muslim married to a Christian who has in turn raised their offsprings to be christians. Seriously this is a joke. Mr Fashola, if indeed he is a muslim, should know better than this. If he cannot adhere to what the law of Allah says about marrying non-muslims, he should just call it quits with his faith and stop being clever by half. Under Islamic law, a muslim is allowed to marry only one set of non-muslims- the people of the book. The people of the book are basically Jews and Christians. This is because the Quran recognises Moses and Jesus as prophets of Allah. This leverage is granted to only males and denied to females. Upon marrying among the people of the book, it is the muslim's obligation to make sure the woman converts to Islam. There are no two ways about it. Thus for a muslim man to come out and announce gleefully to the world that he is a minority in his own household is not only comical but embarrassing to the law of Allah.   

In Nigeria, the liberal muslims are people who were born into muslim homes and who in turn do not have the courage to see the religion for what it truly is,  They cannot convert because of so many reasons. Reasons that fade into insignificance once whats at stake is understood. A good number convert into something else, most especially xtianity.  In the SouthWest where I come from, most muslims will tell you with sincerity that they cannot condone a system of justice like the sharia which okays arm cutting, stoning to death, whip-lashing and a death sentence for daring to convert away from Islam. Well, that's too bad because it means they cannot condone Islam and yet claim to be muslims.   Being muslim means allowing Islam to be your culture, your thoughts, your ideas, basically your everything. It would take something very mighty to totally eradicate the core of Yoruba values and ideas of how life, society and the concept of justice should look like among the generality of the Yoruba. A probable reason why the best Islam can do in those parts is to create a bunch of misguided muslims  .

The real reason for this is to offer my own little contribution in the quest to help stop the 'mis-labelling' in the Islamic world. It would be better for the world to know who the real muslims are as against the fake, misguided ones. 

This should serve as warning to all females out there: never marry an unsophisticated male.

Did you guys even read the article?

Ignore fstranger please.

^^^^

Its wikileaks man.

asorocker:

Yorubas got lagos on a platter as the northerners moved the capital to Abuja

Lagos seems to be the last hope of the yorubas instead of ibadan , they can't be proud of ibadan because ibadan is nothing more than a slump ( the dirtiest capital in nigeria), the other south west states are glorified LGAs

If this present fear of yorubas losing lagos to igbos who are just 46% of lagos degenerates to schism and cold war and possibly a real war , the yorubas risk losing lagos. And you will not likely match igbos in a war where other tribes in Nigeria remain neutral.

Because lagos based businesses like oil companies, banks , telecommunication companies , insurance, embassies will relocate to abuja at the slightest signs of unrest .

The north having lost political power will encourage the companies to remain in abuja and remain neutral in the event of war between the igbos and yorubas because they are eperiencing the same thing in jos.
And it will give them opportunity to leverage economically.

Also the yorubas are risking their port monopoly to Nigerdelta the slightest miscalculation by yorubas will have Niger delta ports being dredged and made useable by the FG

What then will the south west have when they lose their port monopoly to Nigerdelta and the few multinationals to Abuja when they could have gained all by allowing lagos state to evolve from a yoruba city to a world metropolis.

You talk as if Lagos does not have indigenes.

We want the Niger-Delta ports to be upgraded. As it is, Lagos is too congested.

The other South West states are lagging behind Lagos. So are all the South East states, if not all the other states in the federation.

Hate the fact I just can't bring myself to hate this creature called OBJ.

Ijeoma is a pretty good columnist.

Many Lagosians are aware of Tinubu's character. His saving grace is that he almost single-handedly created a party which has proven to be a considerably better alternative to the PDP in Lagos.

I would be willing to wager on his influence waning by 2015. Nothing lasts forever.

Tinubu riding his luck.

I like this guy. I mean---------------------- telling the elders of a town he was gonna raze their town and grow plants if they cannot live peacefully with each other is just-------------gangsta.

And the bit about Bala Muhammed coming to severe political ties because he 'did not make him rich' is hilarious. This guy has a good sense of humour walahi.
What knocked me out really is that he requested Muhammed's family to pray for their patron cuz he was worried about his sanity.----------damn, damn, damn

YUGUDA for PRESIDENT2015!!!!!

Yuguda: SGF, FCT Minister are closet ACN men

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⁠Friday, 04 March 2011 00:00 ⁠ ⁠ Turaki A. Hassan ⁠ .

Secretary to the Government of the Federation Alhaji Mahmud Yayale Ahmed, Federal Capital Territory Minister Senator Bala Mohamed as well as former Bauchi State governor Ahmed Adamu Mu’azu are all PDP members in Abuja but back home in Bauchi State, they are the sponsors and financiers of the opposition Action Congress of Nigeria (ACN), Governor Isa Yuguda said in Abuja yesterday.

He said the three were responsible for the Jonathan/Sambo ticket’s slim win of Bauchi delegates at last January’s PDP convention because they induced the 16 state assembly members who lost their re-election tickets to vote against Jonathan.

 

He said the three have all joined together to fight him and to undermine President Goodluck Jonathan’s election efforts in Bauchi State because the people’s revolution that brought him to power in 2007 had demolished their little empires.

Yuguda traced the long history of his association with the FCT minister, who was his special assistant for five years when he was Minister of Transport and Aviation. He spoke about how he allegedly gave Bala Mohammed N47.5million in January 2007  to enable him clear his personal debts and pay his children’s two years school fees, as a condition for resigning from his work and joining him in politics. Mohammed later defeated Governor Mu’azu for a Senate seat.

Yuguda said a year after Mohammed became Senator, he came to his house and told him that he would no longer associate with him politically because Yuguda failed to make him a rich man. He said at that point, he feared for Bala’s sanity and even asked his family members to pray for him.

Governor Yuguda also refuted media reports that he had banned the pasting of all campaign posters in Bauchi apart from President Jonathan’s. He said what he actually did was to ban all posters except presidential candidates’ posters in Bauchi metropolis because the town’s youth were fighting one another over campaign posters.

He also reiterated his threat to uproot and demolish Tafawa Balewa town if the communities ever resorted to violence again to settle disputes. “I will demolish it, plant trees, put fertiliser and allow a forest to grow there,” he said he told the town’s elders. He said there was absolutely no reason why Muslims and Christians in the town should fight each other when they had been living peacefully for ages. He accused some politicians of fanning the embers of trouble in Tafawa Balewa in order to get a state of emergency declared in Bauchi State.

The governor also said ex-state governor Ahmadu Mu’azu, who was found by the Justice Sanga Commission of Inquiry to have looted N22 billion from the state treasury, was only able to return to the country when his lawyer, Mohammed Bello Adoke, became Attorney General of the Federation and Minister of Justice. Malam Isa also said the Bauchi State University will open before the end of this month.




http://dailytrust.dailytrust.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=13421:yuguda-sgf-fct-minister-are-closet-acn-men&catid=2:lead-stories&Itemid=8

For those who are impressed by his statement, y'all don't know the first thing about OBJ -or maybe y'all forgot. This old man is a seasoned trickster and a master of deceit.

I understand your point that he at least tried to be sensitive to the popular opinion. He was at the campaign ground in lagos when the President came to town. Jonathan ,who has a fascination for bad boys,  is probably not bothered.

DRlulu:

thats exactly what am saying ,you will think those in diaspora should know better but they seem to be worse than those in nigeria.

besides have anybody wondered why abuja and lagos are deserted like ghost towns every dec south easterners travel to their villa , am sure the state govt have taken note of it and its effect on the economy of lagos.

Good Ol' Doc,
My problem with some of y'all on this forum is you first come out acting like roses and sounding all cosmopolitan. It doesn't take too long before y'alll go back to empty boasts and story-telling.
So anytime Abuja is deserted during the yuletide period, you think everyone has gone to the South East? Do you know that Hausas and other Northerners too usually travel to their home-states during that period? How about the Yorubas there and the other Southern ethnic groups in Abuja? They don't travel back home? The fact is people leave Abuja in droves during that period, not only the Igbos.
Lagos sees a significant reduction in population during that period too but for you to go as far as saying it becomes 'empty' is ridiculous. No offence. You probably haven't been in Lagos during that period. Maybe while chilling in your village, the amount of Igbos you see who have come from Lagos are so much, you just assume there's no one left in the city. People would just point to empty commercial areas of the town and assume the town is empty. Why would the place be like normal when its christmas-the 25th?
Even among those who have left the town, you'd count a significant number who's destination is also east but not Igbo states. You'd find the Northerners who are headed up north, you'd find the many non-indigene Yorubas who go to their hometowns in the hinterland to celebrete Christmas.
The problem of course is over-exaggerating your importance and thinking the world revolves around Igbos. Not entirely a bad thing because if y'all don't hype yourselves, who would? Just don't be spouting falsehoods in the process.

Amalaaba:

This discussion is at the heart of the JOS crises. The settlers Hausas who are clear majority in some local governments want to Chair the local governments and if there is a clear cut free and fair election they would always win. The Politicians have injected opium (psychologically) in people's brain enough for them to develop extreme fear of the other party, result? War!

Our law says, anybody who has lived, worked, born and paid tax (for 15 years) is entitled to vote and be voted for in any state of the federation, but we introduce something else. I know a family (Originally Ibo) at AMAFO-ISINGWU that converse in only Yoruba when they come home for Christmas and another (Originally Yoruba) at Aba who Speaks only in Ibo. In both cases most of the children don't speak their mother tongue at all. In the two cases, the mothers speak the worst of their original language.

If we don't follow the constitution, Jos situation will soon spread.

*Sighs*
Here we go again. Bros, don't be talking about the law if you do not know the law. Seriously.
Our constitution does not require anyone to live in another state for 15 years before he can vote or contest elections.
Our constitution gives everyone the right to vote anywhere in Nigeria. No doubt. You are wrong though when you say our constitution makes anyone entitled to be voted for. No. You only have the right to contest. You cannot force anyone to vote for you.
This summarizes to some extent my position in this thread, some people have claimed to have population, if true, they should just come out and contest. Nobody will stop them.

Bukittes:

Seriously, without any bias here, the guy was set up and thats not fair. Afterall everyone's supposed to have a fair share in a democracy. Why then will they fill up a hall with only the opposing party fan present? I have always said it that our collared men should pray for wisdom when involved in politics or else they will keep soiling their garments! see one defacing a poster, now these. Whats wrong with them sef? Are they not supposed to be promoting peace? I salute Orgi for walking out, the organizers deserves no respect since they didn't respect him enough to tell him their plans and letting him choose whether or not he wants to be a partaker.

How about the crowd in the stadium

slimshay:

'You better get rid of that nine, it ain't gonna help. What good's it gonna do
against a man that strangles himself. -- Eminem,

That up there is why I feel it will be hard coming up against Em: The man makes fun of himself. He takes away most opponent's material. His being white, drugs, his mum, his daughter, being bullied, he himself has touched on all this in a satirical way.

So it has to be about skill, well on that, good luck to whomever.

On point. You wouldn't really wanna go up in arms against Em.

I rate Nas/Jay's beef over Pac/Big. The former was a straight up battle between two fine mcs and was really worth it. Its good they buried the hatchet but I somewhat miss that beef.

Pac and Big on the other hand was one-sided. Pac had a full track dissing Big but Big never replied save for subliminals in songs like ' Goin' Back to Cali',
Big was my favorite of the two tho'

DRlulu:

tribalism is soo strong in nigeria ,its worse than curruption, i think zoning should be brought back if not nigeria wont last long cus people will be voting along tribes lines. the south south need to rule the country most of the resources we are using comes from there , if theres going to be peace and unity in nigeria then zoning should be applied.

So many contradictions in your post doc. The only reason a man from the South-South is almost set to be President come April is because he reneged on the Zoning principle of his party. I think we better start to deal with it so we won't be cry babies in the future. Zoning as we knew it is dead.

onye_ngbu:

You cant stand on one ground, can you?

I do not think there has been any inconsistency in any of the views I have expressed so far. I think you have closed your mind. Good luck.

EzeUche_:

Do you Yorubas from other parts of Yorubaland have an ancestral claim to Lagos?

It is a honest question. Or, because the people who claim ownership are a Yoruba clan, than all Yorubas have a claim to Lagos?

I hate to be the one to break it to you cuz this is something everyone should know. The Yorubas have evolved from the days of warring and fighting among each other to an ethnic group, one ethnic group. Tinubu isn't originally from Lagos but he was Governor. Has anybody made any noise about that? No. Why? Because he is YORUBA. There are so many non-Lagosians(Yoruba of course) who are or were members of Fashola and Tinubu's cabinets. I am not from Lagos but I am Yoruba. For the fact of the latter, I feel at home anywhere from the Yoruba-speaking parts of Kogi to Lagos. The same way you would feel more at home in any part of your SouthEast.

As for our brothers in Benin and Togo, they wouldn't ordinarily be concerned. The fact we are in different countries takes care of that. There's what social scientists call 'sovereignty'.

afam4eva:

When we're talking about Abuja and Lagos pls don't bring any other state into it. Unlike other states Lagos was a federal capital meaning that federal money was pumped into the city.  Not that there's anything wrong with a yoruba person running for a position in Enugu or anywhere else provided he's lived in that city for a reasonable number of years.

You are a funny guy. Is there any part of Nigeria where Federal money hasn't been 'pumped' in? Have you ever been to Kaduna? There is a lot of federal presence in that city with a healthy population of Igbos. Why haven't you lot cried to be given Governorship or any political post there?

You obviously think Lagos State as we know it is the same with Lagos the former FCT. You of course are ignorant that there is a large chunk of Lagos State that was under the Western Region including the capital, Ikeja. When you people raise the disingenuous point about federal money, ex federal capital bla bla bla, you forget or do not realise that no Yoruba man went on record to beg for Lagos to be made as capital city. So any advantage the state has now because a part of it was capital is welcome and we cannot be sorry for that.

afam4eva:

This is the reason why Nigeria should be split let everyone go their seperate ways. This is crazy. Is there any constitution in the world that allows people to vote but not be voted for. How can some who was born in Lagos or has lived the better part of their life in lagos not be allowed to contest for a political offfice. It is a backward thinking to say the least.

By the way how's the capital of a country determined because i think it's cheating that you build a capital with federal money and at the end of the day someone is telling me that everyone does not have equal right in that city.

Who has stopped any person born in Lagos from contesting for any political office? Can you give us instances? No group has the power, majority or indigenous, to stop anybody from contesting political office even if that person wasn't born in Lagos. The law is pretty clear. What the law wouldn't tell you or any person for that matter is that there are political dynamics that will stop a non-indigene from winning even if he contests. The law while giving you the right to be voted for also gave those voters the right to vote for anyone they want. It also gave those that constitute these voters the assurance that they are not breaking the law if they choose not to vote for someone they deem as not part of them. Anyway, that same law did not implore us to just standby and give our total support to one Mr Eze, who feels he and his kinsmen have contributed more than anyone else and also outnumber the other groups in the state, to run for Governor. Mr Eze should feel very confident of his chances even with Yoruba antagonism since they are the majority, abi? There are more than 20 political parties if I'm not mistaken, if you feel so strongly about it, you or any of your kinsmen should pick up the ticket and contest.

EzeUche_:

We all know who are the most tribalistic people in Nigeria.

Look at the way they talk

They reap where they did not sow.

Lagos was built by everybody, not just the Yoruba. It was by fate, that Lagos was even given such significance. It was not out of love for the Yoruba. Port Harcourt, Sapele and Warri could have easily been given such importance.

You don't even have to sow anything when the land is ancestrally yours.

EzeUche_:

We all know who are the most tribalistic people in Nigeria.

Look at the way they talk

They reap where they did not sow.

Lagos was built by everybody, not just the Yoruba. It was by fate, that Lagos was even given such significance. It was not out of love for the Yoruba. Port Harcourt, Sapele and Warri could have easily been given such importance.

You are just a funny guy. Out of love indeed.

onye_ngbu:

Stop clearing doubts by making empty threats as if ordinary yoruba or igbo person on the street gives a damn what you guys here on NL thinks.

I've noticed that throughout the course of this 'argument', you've been attributing statements to people, statements they didn't make. You can go through all my posts on this topic thus far. Not for once have I threatened violence so I do not know what you are talking about. You seem more willing to drag this issue while in the same post you quoted I said we could just stop the argument and wait till the elections are over. Then we can, in case you already do not know, identify those who have made empty threats.