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Re: 'Return Home', Fashola Charges Nigerians In Diaspora by Kobojunkie: 9:04pm On Aug 26, 2008 |
buzugee: Can you prove that ALL the older Nigerians who live in America today all feel judged by their skin color? Or is this just your minds twist on what will happen to you when you get to that particular age? If a person living outside of Nigeria desires to go back when he/she is old and decrepit, what makes you think that will not be possible no matter what age? buzugee: Are you sure your mind is not seriously playing games on you? Nigeria is just a flight or two away for most people, seniors included. I mean if a person wants to go back to Nigeria at any time, what stops that person from doing so? NOTICE I AM ASKING THE SAME QUESTION OVER AGAIN? buzugee: Are you saying that all senior folks in Nigeria enjoy the same lifestyle you claim your folks enjoy? What exactly is the point you are trying to make here? Do all the millions of seniors in Nigeria today share the same view and lifestyle? I am not sure the old woman who still has to go to the farm in her 70’s to get firewood to sell so she can at get a meal for the day enjoys her old age the way you claim. Are you sure she is sings the same tune you are singing to us here? buzugee: I am in Chicago myself and I was just in church and saw some old women singing and celebrating a friend’s birthday. They looked happy to be here and were showing off their grandkids and all. Do you have a point? Because some old women live in your building and are miserable means all old people in America are miserable? How old are you? |
Re: 'Return Home', Fashola Charges Nigerians In Diaspora by buzugee(m): 9:13pm On Aug 26, 2008 |
debosky:crime infested ? and you got this from my post how ? there is a reason why many old naijas live where i live and thats cuz of safety abi how many naijas live in ghetto in america ? and yup you are right about those women and men being physically in yankee but mentally in naija but can you blame them ? integrate ? what exactly does that mean ? hanging around wih akata and oyinbo ? if thats ya idea of integration then i guess i dont integrate either. dont have nothing in common with em and i am to cool to be tryna integrate by force, tryna feel among and stuff. TOTALLY NOT ME. i say hello and i keep it moving unless we have some kinda bidness arrangement . akata and oyinbo will be the first to throw a noose on ya african neck if given half the chance so dont think ya integration is an act of bravery but rather an act of stupidity. ![]() |
Re: 'Return Home', Fashola Charges Nigerians In Diaspora by Kobojunkie: 9:18pm On Aug 26, 2008 |
buzugee: Why would you choose to continue in a place where you do not feel at home in? Isn’t that you torturing yourself? If you, @Buzugee, have yet to integrate, what are you still doing here? Forget about the old women. If you yourself do not understand what it means to integrate, don’t you think that is sign that you ought to go back or something, to where you find peace and are better able to live comfortably? I mean instead of continuing to think everyone lives miserable outside of Nigeria. I think that is a ridiculous outlook you have there. If you yourself are not cut out for life outside of Nigeria, it is understandable. Go back and gain peace. Sitting out here mouthing off that everyone is as miserable as you are only makes you seem some sort of grumpy miserable person. |
Re: 'Return Home', Fashola Charges Nigerians In Diaspora by buzugee(m): 9:22pm On Aug 26, 2008 |
Kobojunkie:i think the question here is how old are you ? you always try to pose as you have an answer to every dilemma and scenario in this world. dude life is not easily compartmentalised the way you always make it appear. life is not black or white. there are different shades of grey in between. off course there are suffering old folk in naija just like their are suffering old folk in america but i will like to believe that suffering in your country is ten times better than sufferin in another mans country. TRY TO EXPAND YOUR MIND DUDE CUZ YOU SOUND LIKE A RIGID UPTIGHT DUDE. there is different shades of grey in life. remember that. stop trying to sound like you can actualise all scenarios in your mind and can come up with the actual answer. ALL YOUR ARGUMENTS FALL INTO THE CATEGORY OF HYPOTHESISING |
Re: 'Return Home', Fashola Charges Nigerians In Diaspora by debosky(m): 9:25pm On Aug 26, 2008 |
of course your area is crime infested, how else would a Ghanaian be killed in a gang shooting just metres from your house? Safe indeed. buzugee: its exactly this warped reasoning of yours is the reason why you think everyone is against you. Nothing more miserable than a life devoted to thinking everyone is against you, trying to kill you at the slghtest opportunity is why folk like you and the lonely women die in isolation. You better move back to naija quickly - where there are even MORE people thinking to kill you immediately. ![]() ![]() |
Re: 'Return Home', Fashola Charges Nigerians In Diaspora by buzugee(m): 9:29pm On Aug 26, 2008 |
Kobojunkie:DID I SAY I WAS MIRESABLE ? there you go being your typical self ASSUMING again. i dont have to integrate to be happy hope you realise that ? i am probably one of the happiest nigerians in america not because of integration but because of rest of mind and accepting who i am. why am i here ? i am here trying to make a project happen. once it happens i am going back to britain. then eventually to africa. AM THINKING GHANA AT THIS POINT IN TIME. ![]() ![]() |
Re: 'Return Home', Fashola Charges Nigerians In Diaspora by Kobojunkie: 9:32pm On Aug 26, 2008 |
buzugee: I am sorry but I hate to tell you this, your life is the color you choose to paint it, simple!! If you want a happy life, you make choices that lead you that way. If you want to live complaining about everything, you make those choices daily and before long, your life is defined by all that . buzugee: Sure you will like to believe that. But that does not make that the absolute for all. There are Nigerians living here in Chicago who enjoy their lives. I have a mother who has no plans of moving back to Nigeria anytime soon. A friend’s father just retired in Nigeria and moved out here to live with his kids since he no longer feels useful in Nigeria. Seriously, your life is what you want it to be. buzugee: It is not in my mind. It is in my surroundings. In my living, I am sorry if I offend you by not seeing life through the same peep whole that you do but believe you me, there are Nigerians who live outside of Nigeria that enjoy their lives. Infact out here in Chicago, many have integrated and work towards building their communities and family lives here. Why do you find that hard to believe? |
Re: 'Return Home', Fashola Charges Nigerians In Diaspora by ebariba: 9:33pm On Aug 26, 2008 |
@Buzugee You have succeeded again in commiting a fallacy of hasty generalization. The fact that you seem to reside with a group of unhappy people of a particular age, sect and colour does not connote that everybody of that age group is unhappy. Again, I think it's entirely up to an individual to decide where and what he/she will derive happiness or fulfillment from. I trust you appreciate the points that are being raised here, but u want to keep the thread flowing, hence your arguments. Can I ask, how come your parents chose to go back after they have attained a state of financial independence/stability? And what percentage of Nigerians above the age bracket u mentioned in your posts lead the kind of "enjoyable" lifestyle your folks have? |
Re: 'Return Home', Fashola Charges Nigerians In Diaspora by buzugee(m): 9:35pm On Aug 26, 2008 |
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Re: 'Return Home', Fashola Charges Nigerians In Diaspora by Kobojunkie: 9:37pm On Aug 26, 2008 |
buzugee: Actually, considering this thread is over 20 pages long and this is not my first time taking you on. It does not take a genius to figure out by now that you come off as a really miserable person. Check your posts from beginning to this point. Even your assumption that only in Nigeria can you have a wonderful couple of final days. That speaks volumes, you know? buzugee: Integration does not deny you rest of mind or a sense of who you are though. Neither does it deny you happiness. Maybe you do not understand what I mean when I say you should integrate. buzugee: goodluck with that. Instead of focusing on the ills and those who are not enjoying the place, how about you try to take your focus off the negatives and maybe, just maybe you might actually see the many Nigerians enjoying the skyline and the many things Chicago has to offer. |
Re: 'Return Home', Fashola Charges Nigerians In Diaspora by buzugee(m): 9:41pm On Aug 26, 2008 |
ebariba:well i must be a magnet for miserable people because since i have stepped into town all the naijas i have met have being romanticising about wanting to go home. either tht or they just see my cute baby face and just feel comfortable enough to let out their deep hidden fears ![]() |
Re: 'Return Home', Fashola Charges Nigerians In Diaspora by ebariba: 9:41pm On Aug 26, 2008 |
buzugee: I hope this dialogue remains objective and personal ego isn't coming to play, and I hope the parties involved are'nt taking issues personal. |
Re: 'Return Home', Fashola Charges Nigerians In Diaspora by buzugee(m): 9:45pm On Aug 26, 2008 |
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Re: 'Return Home', Fashola Charges Nigerians In Diaspora by Kobojunkie: 9:45pm On Aug 26, 2008 |
buzugee: Deep hidden fears? What you have described so far are not fears but miseries. You can help them by telling them to go back to Nigeria and find Happiness before it is too late for them. |
Re: 'Return Home', Fashola Charges Nigerians In Diaspora by buzugee(m): 9:54pm On Aug 26, 2008 |
more memories of naija, the club sammiches at ikoyi hotel the suya hangout spots on 1 allen avenue. university of suya buying my first car ![]() more to come ![]() ![]() |
Re: 'Return Home', Fashola Charges Nigerians In Diaspora by ty4real(m): 10:10pm On Aug 26, 2008 |
buzugee: Guy,what is the summary of your ranting gann na ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: 'Return Home', Fashola Charges Nigerians In Diaspora by debosky(m): 10:14pm On Aug 26, 2008 |
Its people like him who get stuck in some fairytale, idealised memories of naija that it hits hardest when they return and can't recapture such dreams anymore. . . . as if the naija of even 2 years ago is the naija of today. I wager you'll be 60 playing Shina in your room like those old women you mocked in no time. ![]() ![]() |
Re: 'Return Home', Fashola Charges Nigerians In Diaspora by Kobojunkie: 10:16pm On Aug 26, 2008 |
buzugee: If food is what you need, try broadway, there are many Nigerian restaurants down that way. I am sorry, I love the skyline and there ain’t nothing bad in loving that either. Like I said, Life is what you want it to be. |
Re: 'Return Home', Fashola Charges Nigerians In Diaspora by buzugee(m): 10:19pm On Aug 26, 2008 |
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Re: 'Return Home', Fashola Charges Nigerians In Diaspora by buzugee(m): 10:24pm On Aug 26, 2008 |
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Re: 'Return Home', Fashola Charges Nigerians In Diaspora by buzugee(m): 10:29pm On Aug 26, 2008 |
Kobojunkie:ol boy i done enta all the restaurant in chicago bolat on clark and belmont qaato on touhy and clark veevees on rosemont and broadway tbs on sheridan and wilson nigerian kitchen on racine and wilson there is one on wilson and sheridan too infront of macdonalds then there is this woman who bleaches her skins restaurant on devon and grrenview |
Re: 'Return Home', Fashola Charges Nigerians In Diaspora by debosky(m): 10:30pm On Aug 26, 2008 |
how long did you even stay in naija? Like I said, romantic notions that have been shattered times without number. I hope your story is different. . . . . but you sound quite taken by it. Once you have your house na jollofment? ![]() I guess having your house removes armed robbers, thieving policemen and all the other ills from your existence. When you need to lock your gate at 6pm and raise barbed wires, I hope you still have time for your gulder and suya nights. ![]() ![]() |
Re: 'Return Home', Fashola Charges Nigerians In Diaspora by buzugee(m): 10:42pm On Aug 26, 2008 |
debosky: ![]() and back to ya question. the beauty about naija is that there is no laws against having weapons. dude all my guys in nigeria have handguns and uzis. just buy a couple of those and keep under bed. problem solved. them no born the arm robber well well. plus you can choose to live in gated communities in naija wihich are patrolled by private security (yup i said it GATED COMMUNITY) make una dey hia dey holla |
Re: 'Return Home', Fashola Charges Nigerians In Diaspora by Kobojunkie: 10:47pm On Aug 26, 2008 |
buzugee: You seem to be in love with your Nigeria. Well, I hope you one day decide to go find your happiness where it lies in Nigeria. |
Re: 'Return Home', Fashola Charges Nigerians In Diaspora by buzugee(m): 10:55pm On Aug 26, 2008 |
Kobojunkie:chief i don't have a choice now. it is my home. the only place i have rest of mind. dude do you know that there is lots of gated communities in lekki and victoria island ? thiefs can't get in because there is only one gate in and it is heavily patrolled by well paid chinese guards. you pay association fee everymonth which is the guards salaries. in the gated community they have basketball court, nightclub, swimming pool, schools, everything you need. you don't need to step out for anything. nigeria is getting crazy and dynamic. there are malls in the gated communitties too |
Re: 'Return Home', Fashola Charges Nigerians In Diaspora by ty4real(m): 10:56pm On Aug 26, 2008 |
Kobojunkie: The guy is not in love with Nigeria kankan,let him be stripped of his bfitish passport,he will be singing another story!Some Nigerians are never tru sha! @buzugee! o jebi ti won bi e ni London ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: 'Return Home', Fashola Charges Nigerians In Diaspora by debosky(m): 10:58pm On Aug 26, 2008 |
so I guess every single person living abroad should go back and live in those gated communities eh? I guess everyone will be marketing director at guinness? Bitter life experiences my foot. Let people make their decisions, and make their own life choices. You have the obvious preference, your world view that Nigeria is the best place on earth does not negate other people's views. Guns and Uzis? Well I hope those your friends don't end up killing themselves or others in a shoot out with armed robbers. . . . anywhere I would need that degree of violence to protect myself CANNOT be utopia by any stretch of the imagination. |
Re: 'Return Home', Fashola Charges Nigerians In Diaspora by ty4real(m): 11:00pm On Aug 26, 2008 |
buzugee link=topic=159830.msg2711589#ms[b: Another Ajebo on nairaland ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: 'Return Home', Fashola Charges Nigerians In Diaspora by buzugee(m): 11:03pm On Aug 26, 2008 |
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Re: 'Return Home', Fashola Charges Nigerians In Diaspora by ty4real(m): 11:05pm On Aug 26, 2008 |
debosky link=topic=159830.msg2711601#msg271[b: O ma se o jare1Good question,are there noy civilised area boys and touts even in this his gated communities,no be Nigeria we dey talk about,Na only God fit change the country!I lie not. |
Re: 'Return Home', Fashola Charges Nigerians In Diaspora by buzugee(m): 11:06pm On Aug 26, 2008 |
debosky:is the same abroad too na. not everyone abroad lives in gated communities na so whats ya point ![]() ![]() |
Re: 'Return Home', Fashola Charges Nigerians In Diaspora by ty4real(m): 11:09pm On Aug 26, 2008 |
buzugee link=topic=159830.m[b: ok,tank God say you yoursef no say iya Charlie try for u ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Omo you funny sha!Shey o wa London bayi abi owa ni gated community e? ![]() ![]() |
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