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Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by jalether(m): 10:53pm On Aug 25, 2009 |
comparing ronaldo with henry is like comparing maldini with puyol enuff of that insult ![]() ![]() |
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by Nobody: 11:04pm On Aug 25, 2009 |
The've switched from CR7 to the Great Ronaldo? I remember C. Ronaldo had to be written on Cristiano's jersey when he arrived United. Just to distinguish him from the great legend. Nobody should compare Henry to the great Ronaldo. They nor be mate. A whole 3X World's best footballer. |
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by Krayola2(m): 11:08pm On Aug 25, 2009 |
Henry has had a better club career. The end! |
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by chic2pimp(m): 3:30am On Aug 26, 2009 |
Krayola2:KRAYOLA KRAYOLA KRAYOLA ![]() ![]() BlueDiva:Help me tell krayola ooo ![]() ![]() |
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by Krayola2(m): 3:49am On Aug 26, 2009 |
Just because a lot of people believe something to be true does not make it true. People believe in talking snakes that deceive humans, and beings on flying horses that will save the world. People believe all types of silly shit Ronaldo did not score more goals than Henry in his European club career (goals in dutch league are worth less u failed statistician. . . . olodo rabata ) Henry had about 10 times more assists than Ronaldo in his club career. Henry has had a longer more productive career. Besides noise and a lot of smileys u can't make one rational argument to support your case. How do u ignore about 10 assists a seson in Henry's favour and equally matched goal hauls. It's pointless having a debate if u ignore evidence just because it disproves something u've always held as true. Henry's club career has been better than Ronaldo. when u have new info to prove other wise, get at me. Otherwise stop making noise. ![]() |
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by biina: 6:30am On Aug 26, 2009 |
Krayola2:Ronaldo has played less games than Henry because of injury, and when he has played, he has had the higher goal scoring ratio. Henry is french and was lucky to start his career in Europe, while Ronaldo had to start in Brazil and holland. Yet by 1997, at age 20, Ronaldo had become the WPOTY solely on his club performances, while Henry was just getting a regular starting spot at Monaco in the lowly french league. Even if henry played till he was 100yrs, he will never achieve the kind of legacy that Ronaldo has, both at club and NT levels. You must have really lost your marbles to compare Henry to Ronaldo. |
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by Rbsat(m): 6:50am On Aug 26, 2009 |
So what are you trying to say? |
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by chic2pimp(m): 8:10am On Aug 26, 2009 |
Krayola2:stop ranting like a mad man jare ![]() ![]() |
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by tkb417(m): 8:17am On Aug 26, 2009 |
They are comparing henry to The Phenomenon ![]() ![]() ![]() Thats the greatest striker ive seen in my life as a football person RONALDO DE LIMA vs Henry its like comparing Lagos to London shit talk 3 times world footballer of the year ![]() ![]() ![]() even CR7 shits on Henry |
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by Ibime(m): 9:25am On Aug 26, 2009 |
Who is this olodo rabata comparing Henry and Ronaldo. Is it Crayon? This guy must be young. Only someone with the arrogance of youth can make such silly statements. The day Henry would turn up to World Cup weighing 100kg after 3 years of injury and score 8 goals, thats the day we will consider Henry to be among the pantheon of greats. So far, Henry only specialises in scoring his World Cup goals against the likes of South Africa and Saudi Arabia. Olodo rabata! If not for injury, we talk about Ronaldo as being equal with Pele and Maradona. Anyone who was watching Italian and Spanish league in the 1990s knows that no player in the modern era compares to Ronaldo, not even Zidane. Perhaps these young ones only know the Ronaldo of Real Madrid. Henry is not even fit to lace the boots of his modern contemporaries such as CR7, Messi, even Eto talkless of El Phenomeno Fat Ronaldo is still averaging a goal a game in the Brazilian Campeonato despite weighing 120kg. Forget it. Comparing Henry to Ronaldo is like comparing Obasanjo to Julius Ceaser. |
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by tkb417(m): 9:48am On Aug 26, 2009 |
Ibime:hahahahaha u got me there its beats me that someone can compare a living legend like Ronaldo to Henry Henry who? Ibime abeg Obasanjo to Ceaser is even small what about Ilesa and New York ![]() ![]() 3 times world footballer of the year to someone who never won even the european footballer of the year wahala dey o ![]() |
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by Phony200(m): 10:56am On Aug 26, 2009 |
Pins will never be pestles, snails will never be rams and generators will never be pendants. Comparing Henry to Ronaldo can only be blamed on alcohol, a really warped sense of humor or a Benjamin Button-style IQ on pre-puberty stage approaching childhood innocence. Crayoner, please pick the one that applies to you. |
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by tkb417(m): 11:02am On Aug 26, 2009 |
Phony200:hehehehehe na wa for u o. how ur side? |
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by Krayola2(m): 12:43pm On Aug 26, 2009 |
see these mad Nigerians. Na only personal attacks they fit use debate. i have shown u irrefutable eveidence that Henry's club career is better than Ronaldo's. Una juss dey argue with sentimentl bullshit. How many assists did Ronaldo have in his career. Ibime: My argument is that Henry has had a better club career. i've conceded internatinal careers to Ronaldo. If all u have are personal attacks, it says more about your intellectual bankruptcy than me. I fit yab too o. no be only u get mouth ![]() ![]() ![]() Ibime: your senior broda!! Ibime:who is we? this is a debate and not a religious gathering u superstitious illeterate. Only superstitious idiots will make such bullshit arguments with no form of logic. Ibime: What kind of stupid argument is this? Anyone that has lived and has a brain knows people do not walk on water and ride on flying horses. U are using an unnecsseary appeal to popularity. This isn't a debate about popularity, it as about who has had a more productive club career. You Nlers no get sense mehn. . . na soso white noise una sabi make. No? Ibime: my point exactly. . .u haven't made any argument. . . just appeals to age and popularity. U were either a science student, or are an illiterate. U have no idea how to make a valid argument. . . Ibime: Abeg. . . una no get case. . . Ronaldo's club career wasn't as good as Henry's. Ronaldo is the greatest player ever. . . . that isn't what this is about but u guys can't see past that. His club career was not better than Henry's. |
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by tkb417(m): 12:53pm On Aug 26, 2009 |
Abeg. . . una no get case. . . Ronaldo's club career wasn't as good as Henry's. Ronaldo is the greatest player ever. . . . that isn't what this is about but u guys can't see past that. His club career was not better than Henry's.relax and make sense the argument isnt all about whos had a better club career or internationals just like we cant say George weah didnt have a good international career doesnt mean he wasnt more celebrated than Henry or some other european strikers the argument is ; who is the better footballer/striker? Ronaldo de lima is the answer by a billion miles the number one recognition for outstanding footballers globally is the world footballer of the year Ronaldo won it 3 times!!! meaning he was the best footballer on the surface of the earth. . . .Henry was a football player when Ronaldo won those awards or not? now ive appealed to facts as against the sentiments you raised from Ibimes posts, kindly appeal to greater facts tht will overide Ronaldos achievements in the football circles and we can put this to bed |
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by Krayola2(m): 12:57pm On Aug 26, 2009 |
@tkb417 only a born loser will try to make a case that Henry is better that Ronaldo. That has never been my position. I always maintained Ronaldo shits on Henry. In his prime Ronaldo is the best thing that has happened in football. That is obvious. . . u guys are only stating the OBVIOUS. WHat isnt so obvious is their over their entire european CLUB careers Henry has been more productive. No one has been able to refute this. . why point out the obvious. . . any tom dikc and fatai knows Ronando was superhuman in his prime |
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by tkb417(m): 1:03pm On Aug 26, 2009 |
Krayola2:i dont know about productivity? if productivity is scoring goals when they were both on the field, the Ronaldo will be more productive and dont tell me about assists cos he was a poacher!! |
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by Krayola2(m): 1:08pm On Aug 26, 2009 |
tkb417: Henry's goal numbers match Ronaldo's. . .Chicnpimp and i spent all day yesterday comparing them. . . u can read the previous page Henry totally blows him out in the assist department. . . if it was just a small lead we could ignore it, but it is a total blowout. how can u say that counts for nothing, even when Ronaldo has no clear goal advantage? The thing is, I swear, if u show me a reason that makes sense I will agree. I'm not stubborn like that. I've conceded defeat lots of times. I even conceded the international career cause I had no sound arguments for it. All u have to do is be honest and make sense and i will agree with u. Ignoring Henry's huge assist advantage is not an honest assessment in my humble opinion. |
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by tkb417(m): 1:17pm On Aug 26, 2009 |
Krayola2:krayola the only thing i can talk about are his goals and his personal awards dunno about any other thing to use in defending my points better club career? maybe now tht he moved to Barca Arsenal made him a loser ![]() ![]() |
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by Krayola2(m): 1:27pm On Aug 26, 2009 |
tkb417: sometimes the difference between WPOTY and another player is just fine details. . .not that one is much better than the other. Cronaldo wasn't glaringly better than Messi. That he won the award only means he had a better season overall, and not that Messi was rubbish. Henry won lots of personal awards too. tkb417: hahaha. Abeg leave Arsenal alone o. Anyways, this debate has been fun. I learned quite a bit I didn't know b4. . .especially from Chic'2; love-vendor, that alcoholic bastard ![]() ![]() I'm sure Ronaldo has a decent amount of assists to be honest, just can't find any detailed stats on him. In 2 seasons Henry scored over 24 goals and over 20 assists. . .that is just mind boggling stuff. They are 2 great players and overall Ronaldo is better. . . but when u narrow it down to their INDIVIDUAL performances at their European clubs, Ronaldo has not had the better career. He is just very loved for the magic he produced. |
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by Ibime(m): 1:28pm On Aug 26, 2009 |
Krayola2: Even after all these, you proceeded to colour your commentary with insults. Imagine someone studying religious studies asking if Im an illiterate. ![]() ![]() ![]() Ronaldo: 1994–1996 PSV 45 (42) 1996–1997 Barcelona 37 (34) 1997–2002 Internazionale 69 (56) 2002–2007 Real Madrid 127 (83) 2007–2008 Milan 20 (9) Total = 224 goals in 298 games. An average of 0.75 goals per game Henry: 1994–1999 Monaco 105 (20) 1999 Juventus 18 (3) 1999–2007 Arsenal 254 (174) 2007– Barcelona 59 (31) Total = 228 goals in 436 games An average of 0.52 goals per game Even if we remove Monaco and Juventus where he often played as a winger, Henry's average at Arsenal and Barca is only 0.65 goals per game. If we remove PSV, Ronaldos average at Barca, Inter and Madrid is still 0.74 goals per game. Khaki no be leather. Lets not even forget that Ronaldo scored all these goals despite sever injuries and weight problems. The day Henry can score 30 goals in Spain, I will doff hat to him. 120 kg Ronaldo thrice scored 30 goals in Spain. As for International record, lets not even go there. |
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by Krayola2(m): 1:31pm On Aug 26, 2009 |
@Ibime goals in dutch league are worth less than the bigger european leagues. what about assist numbers? like i said, u're ignoring major stats in Henry's favor Henry was injured his entire 1st season at Barcelona and was our highest goal scorer playing as a winger. and this is not about International careers Ibime:self defense ![]() ![]() |
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by Ibime(m): 1:35pm On Aug 26, 2009 |
Krayola2: Henrys goal average at Arsenal + Barca = 0.65 goals per game Ronaldos average at Barca, Real and Inter = 0.74 goals per game. PSV or no PSV, Ronaldo is King. |
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by Krayola2(m): 1:39pm On Aug 26, 2009 |
Ibime: add assists and Ronaldo falls off the radar. . . ![]() |
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by vikiviko(m): 1:48pm On Aug 26, 2009 |
Ronaldo da lima is a brazilian legend so is Henry a french legend. Both have won the world cup. The two most humble Players i have ever seen on soccer pitch. Forza Phenomenon Forza Henry |
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by Ibime(m): 1:59pm On Aug 26, 2009 |
Krayola2: This gaffe-prone Catalan made the assertion that if we take away Ronaldos PSV goals, Henrys goal record is better. That was quickly debunked by stats. Now his last bastion of hope is a vague allusion to "assists". One would expect even an irredeemable failure to post statistics before opening his mouth to sing songs. Corner takers always post high assists. Henrys assist stats are on Wikipedia if you wanna check. FYI, only twice did he produce more than 10 assists in the league. Those 24 assists were an anomaly, not a routine. Half of his assists are from corners. Thats why people like Lampard post 20 assists a season. At least 10 are from corners. Even Nani posted 11 assists in his first season. At least 5 of those would be from corners. Thats why we pick corner takers in our fantasy team. From open play, Henry may outassist Ronaldo by a handful of goals per season. You can add those to his goals record and he would still average lower than Ronaldo. |
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by Krayola2(m): 2:03pm On Aug 26, 2009 |
Ibime: hahaha. . . u're being silly Ibime. I just woke up so i don`t feel like diggin into stats now so i just let ur numbers slide. . . we all know stats is all about presentation. I have shit to do this mornin. . . «i`ll get at u later |
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by ritchboy(m): 2:05pm On Aug 26, 2009 |
Krayola, u are STRONG! 24 hrs of addressing quater-baked analysis by nairalanders? Even jack bauer cant handle that! ![]() like u said, some people just wont change their belief(s) no matter d evidence u present them with. you are better off trying to convince a suicide bomber he wont wake up in "paradise" with 23 virgins after he blows himself up. ![]() |
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by tkb417(m): 2:07pm On Aug 26, 2009 |
Ibime:correct!!!! |
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by Sauron1: 2:20pm On Aug 26, 2009 |
Krayola2: U are spewing bollocks. Fat Ronaldo shits on Henry multiple times. Only a doofus will compare them. . . . . |
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by Krayola2(m): 2:22pm On Aug 26, 2009 |
The `GREAT RONALDO` only ever won a league title his entire european club career. ONE!!! But he had a better club career than Henry?!?! Are u guys even 4 real? Played for the best teams in Italy and Spain and NEVER MADE IT TO A CL FINAL!! (not cup winner's cup) ![]() what nonsense!! ritchboy: haha. . my broda me sef tire for dem o ![]() ![]() |
Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by Sauron1: 2:30pm On Aug 26, 2009 |
Krayola2: He never played for a club that qualifies automatically into the CL like Henry with Arsenal. Did Henry win anything in Europe with Arsenal? Hell No. Until Henry joined Barcelona as a spare part. . . . . He wasn't even close to winning the CL schitzo. |
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