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Re: Yoruba Community Alleges Marginalisation In Enugu by sjeezy8: 3:14am On Oct 29, 2009 |
lol igbos are welcomed in lagos, I think Lagos state is almost around the corner of ethnic politics esp with Fashola dedicating different statues, awards to people of igbo descent. i think i can vote igbo if hes bcked by the right folks |
Re: Yoruba Community Alleges Marginalisation In Enugu by mekuslogan: 4:11am On Oct 29, 2009 |
YommyUK, How ever way the Yoruba view Igbos in Yorubaland, should have been the same way Igbo view Yoruba in Igboland. But there is a big difference namely in the fact that Igbos have been killed, harassed and kidnapped in Yorubaland while the opposite is the case in Igboland. Remember the Igbo traders who were kidnapped by Yoruba people in Owo? Did we revenge? Have we demolished any of your shops? Have we killed any of you? |
Re: Yoruba Community Alleges Marginalisation In Enugu by Nobody: 4:15am On Oct 29, 2009 |
the funny thing is one would think these extremists are just blowing gas on Nairaland, but I'm actually meeting people in real life who hold these views. They let their guard slip every once in a while. Either that or their delusions are reality to them. |
Re: Yoruba Community Alleges Marginalisation In Enugu by yommyuk: 5:09am On Oct 29, 2009 |
@mekuslogan How ever way the Yoruba view Igbos in Yorubaland, should have been the same way Igbo view Yoruba in Igboland. But there is a big difference namely in the fact that Igbos have been killed, harassed and kidnapped in Yorubaland while the opposite is the case in Igboland. Remember the Igbo traders who were kidnapped by Yoruba people in Owo? Did we revenge? Have we demolished any of your shops? Have we killed any of you? This is an isolated incident when u compare it to what happens to the Ibos in the north. Secondly If you revenge or kill us, you got more to lose - Another Civil war on your hands. Last time around it was against the North, But if you take on the Yorubas - We will send u all to the land of no return (4real) Go ask the Hausas in Sagamu ![]() Look at it from this angle. To my understanding We have 4million plus Ibos in Lagos. Can u guys accomodate that kind of number in Biafra or let me say one Eastern state. I bet not. ![]() |
Re: Yoruba Community Alleges Marginalisation In Enugu by yommyuk: 6:22am On Oct 29, 2009 |
i think i can vote igbo if hes bcked by the right folks Governor Chukwu Emeka for Lagos ![]() No way Sir ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Yoruba Community Alleges Marginalisation In Enugu by Nobody: 6:24am On Oct 29, 2009 |
gov tpia for Imo and Abia states nko. |
Re: Yoruba Community Alleges Marginalisation In Enugu by yommyuk: 6:47am On Oct 29, 2009 |
Igbos and Easterners in Lagos will ofcourse take the majority of their business to Calabar, PH, Onitsha ports. It will be dumb to still be investing heavily in Lagos when we have our nation to invest in. Nigerians will still be welcome to come to Biafra for business and go back home. If Ibos can get this Biafra fiasco going and make it a reality that will mean Our (Yorubas) PRAYERS has being answered. That will be a big relief. legitimate Business will start to take root. Fake products will be eradicated from our shores Our cities can get back to normal. Development accelerated. Less hawking on our streets. Less Okirika wares in our shops. Nollywood will move forward and acheive it real potential. Agriculture will take root again. Free education and Health will be introduced like the days of BABA AWO It will be a welcomed occurrence. ![]() However we will watch and see BIAFRA fail from within due to the disunity b/w the ethinic groups. What u guys fail to understand is that the Yorubas come from the same source - ILE IFE (Ibos?) Another Civil war will enfold. Hunger will strike again. Then Ibos will come running back to Us. Then We will become their Masters. That Oil u are depending on will become a curse. Blood Oil However u wont mind exchanging the oil for food when Hunger strikes u again. Biafra ! KWENU! U have my vote ![]() |
Re: Yoruba Community Alleges Marginalisation In Enugu by AloyEmeka6: 6:54am On Oct 29, 2009 |
Abagworo: @bold, 150% true. Igbos are natural capitalists who believes in individual freedom, opinion and conservatism. Ijaws are like that too but Yorubas are clanish, liberals and believe in socialism to a certain extent while Hausas are full time populists. It becomes somewhat difficult to marry all these ideologies especially when religion is involved. To an extent, I don't believe any system is better than another but what is wrong is one judging another because his or her own system is different. In this context, I can see that Yorubas nominally consider the dominance of their ethnic group in an area before they consider investments; Hausas invest anywhere they pitch their tents because it automatically becomes their home. Anyone remember when they refused an igbo man from developing his land at Bida road onitsha because its their enclave and they think his new structure will endanger their religious activities?. The governor then[Ezeife] had to settle the matter by giving the man another land. Igbos on the other hand, operate on their preferred frequency and if they are not scared of the Vietnamese who they built properties in their villages, why should they be scared of their own neighbors?. I do not blame YommyYuK because he doesn't know that an igbo man who sees him at Owerri does not take him any more like another igbo man he meets in the same place. Okoro man is not scared of the socioeconomic consequence of your presence in his village rather, he is only interested on how to stay on top of his own game. He already knows that mob action does not work in igboland because one or two people must disagree with what he plans to do. Others may disagree on the basis that the person you are about to attack is his best customer. |
Re: Yoruba Community Alleges Marginalisation In Enugu by yommyuk: 6:56am On Oct 29, 2009 |
@Nchara Know very many Yoruba people at the University of Agriculture Umudike, Abia State who are from Osun State. This is just one example. Has it never occurred to u that our people are there to gain Knowledge. We are prepared because We know that Biafra will fail and u people will need feeding ![]() |
Re: Yoruba Community Alleges Marginalisation In Enugu by Sagamite(m): 6:59am On Oct 29, 2009 |
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Re: Yoruba Community Alleges Marginalisation In Enugu by yommyuk: 7:18am On Oct 29, 2009 |
I can see that Yorubas nominally consider the dominance of their ethnic group in an area before they consider investments; Wrong! Omo Odua Knows the importance of gaining Knowledge. We recognise that Stocks and Cash(business) can Disappear, But Knowledge gained is never lost. Knowledge is Power ![]() That is the Power that the Hausas fear and that is what the OKORO MAN hasn't got. We lead Nigeria from the middle - that is what We call middle management or Middle class The live blood of Nigeria pal ![]() |
Re: Yoruba Community Alleges Marginalisation In Enugu by Nchara: 3:31pm On Oct 29, 2009 |
YommyUK, You have a handful of Yoruba students and teachers in Eastern Universities, whereas half of the population of students and a quarter of the Faculty in almost all your universities are Igbos. Who is seeking wider knowledge and ready to learn? The one who lives, shits and dines in his closet and the other who moves out to gain a wider perspective? |
Re: Yoruba Community Alleges Marginalisation In Enugu by naijaway(m): 3:46pm On Oct 29, 2009 |
Too much venting here o and some 1967 thinking in the 21st century. Am a nigerian born and raised in Lagos and my heritage is igbo. I don't know about yoruba being able to kill all the igbos in Lagos like this is 1967 or so. I am not tribalist or anything I believe every nigerian should settle wherever they want to in Nigeria as long as it is their responsibility to fend for themselves without corruption, armed robbery, kidnapping, or handouts. I believe that a yoruba can become enugu state governor and any state governor in any state in Nigeria as long as their requirements excluding tribe are met and that could be the same for any tribe. I have a lot of yoruba friends that I call real friends and will stand with them in any situation and I believe cuz from experience that they will stand for me too. That said, In a worst case scenerio btw yorubas and igbo, I can assess that it will be disastrous but guess what it would be disastorous more on the yoruba side of things. Igbos have an above average knowledge of most ethnic groups in nigeria and will be more likely to strike hard at precise targets while the yorubas will be more likely to strike mistaken identities and include more ethnic groups; the igbo population in Lagos is no joke and any wise military adviser knows that it should never be underestimated including the fact that igbos are more likely to sense a war quicker than the yorubas due to past experience and historical awareness; Most igbos in lagos have arms or are not too far from one and is also common knowledge that in a worst case scenerio in lagos, btw igbos and yoruba, the fight will be street to street and house to house; Houses will be burnt in record numbers because the igbos will not allow history repeat itself by losing their properties just like that, so it is common knowledge to burn down everything and then fight in the streets but it is 21st century so enuff AK47 on all sides of the conflict; The igbos on the east will be able to penetrate yoruba side of benin and the other yoruba states because they have more knowledge of the surroundings and in the long run trap a sizable amount of yorubas in btw the major fight in lagos and the major fights in ondo and osun, the chances of yorubas going past delta in a land war are very slim to none. All these assessments could be wrong but are highly likely. And these assessments are based on land war, the majority of the north not involved, and even if they were on whoever side, the war could still go this way. This assessment is also based on the facts that each side has equal amount of firepower but small firearms, if world powers supply weapons, I still think it will go the way i explained earlier with only a sizable but destructive penetrations of the yoruba airforce but that might even make it more dangerous for more of the yoruba areas because the igbo airforce will be able to really level the west more due to proximity from delta state. Any airforce that flies over niger delta might be shot down by bigger world powers due to oil field protection and it would be sophisticated than the ones sold to both sides. At the end of the day. Igbos are very okay with yorubas and this is an honest truth. U can say the same of yorubas to a point but on a larger scale igbos are more comfortable with yorubas. Its because yoruba muslims are not as radical, they have been dealing with yorubas more, they are more inter marriages btw igbos and yorubas more, they are more likely to do good or bad with yorubas in many situations, it is common knowledge that the igbos and yorubas and others in btw make the south states of nigeria more vibrant, together on an equal and honest footing igbos, yorubas, and in btw and behind, above, etc can make Nigeria very great. I love every tribe but in a worst case scenerio, the chances could be very different. |
Re: Yoruba Community Alleges Marginalisation In Enugu by Nobody: 3:53pm On Oct 29, 2009 |
^^ whats all this rubbish? In the history of Nigeria, when have Igbos and Yorubas ever engaged in the type of confrontation you're dreaming about here? Of course some Nairaland Igbos and other misguided elements are thirsting for Yoruba blood and longing for slaughter, but right now you're yarning bollocks. The Biafran war was originally between Igbos and Hausas. Some Yorubas even joined the Biafran army. |
Re: Yoruba Community Alleges Marginalisation In Enugu by asha80(m): 3:57pm On Oct 29, 2009 |
tpia.: Actaully there threatened to be one in 1948 in lagos. A press war of unprecedented violence was carried on between the West African Pilot representing Azikiwe and the Daily Service representing his Yoruba rivals. Between July and September of 1948, Igbo-Yoruba hostility assumed such high proportions that 9 extremists on both sides bought up all available matchets in the Lagos markets in anticipation of ethnic violence. Although violence did not materialize, growth in ethnic prejudice, identification and sentiments had increased beyond tolerable threshold. Ever since, it has become very difficult to reach an agreement on crucial national matters, with the exception of the date for independence, between the Igbo and Yoruba political leaders http://www.indiana.edu/~workshop/papers/nnoli_021003.pdf |
Re: Yoruba Community Alleges Marginalisation In Enugu by Nobody: 4:04pm On Oct 29, 2009 |
asha 80: explain. Hausas and Yorubas have more open communal conflict than Igbos and Yorubas. probably why the Igbo/Yoruba dialectic is more insidious. |
Re: Yoruba Community Alleges Marginalisation In Enugu by sjeezy8: 4:06pm On Oct 29, 2009 |
naijaway: This has to be the dumbest shit i ever read on NL. I dont even think yorubas have it in their mind of how to "penetrate" the East in the case of ethnic war. Im so mad at myself for even looking at this trash posted. Nothing sensible at all, some ethnic groups are known for diplomacy and knowledge of how there is more to be gained during times of peace, while some other ethnic groups are known for WAR ONLY. smh lol tpia.: There is no worry or even thought on the behalf of yorubas about Wars, maybe igbo tho. Who knows? I cant tell the difference jealousy, envy, animosity I dont know but its ridiculous |
Re: Yoruba Community Alleges Marginalisation In Enugu by asha80(m): 4:09pm On Oct 29, 2009 |
tpia.: i modified the post |
Re: Yoruba Community Alleges Marginalisation In Enugu by Nobody: 4:18pm On Oct 29, 2009 |
asha 80: your quote says there was threatened violence, not actual violence. The root cause was political tension because Zik was accused of doing the same things that are currently happening on Nairaland- namely smear campaigns, character assasination and war mongering. At the same time, Igbos rallied round him in defense. Or am i reading the article wrong. |
Re: Yoruba Community Alleges Marginalisation In Enugu by asha80(m): 4:22pm On Oct 29, 2009 |
i modified it from actual to threatend. |
Re: Yoruba Community Alleges Marginalisation In Enugu by naijaway(m): 4:27pm On Oct 29, 2009 |
Am not inciting anything mr sjeezy. And I know I love yoruba peps well well both male and female (no homo) regardless of age. I have lived for periods of times in yoruba villages either cuz of school stuffs or going with my friends to their hometowns. I was never treated bad without my friend treated the same. They showed me love. When I go to naija i still go to osun state and my sister also went to fgc idoani, ondo state and in that same town my cousin married his wife and they have a kid nnemeka seun. Is all love bro. I don't want disintegeration on any level especially not btw igbos and yorubas thats why equality and honesty must be the foundation. I love the mixture and even wishes it mixes more rapidly so that peoples loyalty will be shared. Together we stir africa in anyway we deem fit and are the pillars datz all. |
Re: Yoruba Community Alleges Marginalisation In Enugu by Nobody: 4:35pm On Oct 29, 2009 |
asha 80: well obviously some of you are planning to continue from where you left off, but this time with actual violence. |
Re: Yoruba Community Alleges Marginalisation In Enugu by Nobody: 4:37pm On Oct 29, 2009 |
naijaway: I dont know what it is with some of you who always say you spent donkey years somewhere but still manage to sound like total strangers to that particular place. Quite puzzling really. No integration at all. |
Re: Yoruba Community Alleges Marginalisation In Enugu by yommyuk: 6:09pm On Oct 29, 2009 |
. I believe that a yoruba can become enugu state governor and any state governor in any state in Nigeria as long as their requirements excluding tribe are met and that could be the same for any tribe. You mean on paper, but in realilty unless there is a military coup and a Yoruba is super-imposed. I have a lot of yoruba friends that I call real friends and will stand with them in any situation and I believe cuz from experience that they will stand for me too. That said, In a worst case scenerio btw yorubas and igbo, I can assess that it will be disastrous but guess what it would be disastorous more on the yoruba side of things. Ibos who where born and bred, schooled in the West or lived in the west for a decade are ok, but those who grew up in the east or based in the east, Boy oh boy they are full of crap. Igbos have an above average knowledge of most ethnic groups in nigeria and will be more likely to strike hard at precise targets while the yorubas will be more likely to strike mistaken identities and include more ethnic groups; the igbo population in Lagos is no joke and any wise military adviser knows that it should never be underestimated including the fact that igbos are more likely to sense a war quicker than the yorubas due to past experience and historical awareness; Most igbos in lagos have arms or are not too far from one and is also common knowledge that in a worst case scenerio in lagos, btw igbos and yoruba, the fight will be street to street and house to house; Houses will be burnt in record numbers because the igbos will not allow history repeat itself by losing their properties just like that, so it is common knowledge to burn down everything and then fight in the streets but it is 21st century so enuff AK47 on all sides of the conflict; That is one area you are 100% wrong. The weapon of Our warfare is more than man made. Spirtually, We will send all ibos packing they will not know what befell them. Naked you will be sent your way out without a dime. I remember when the Ibos at idumota wanted to flex back in the early 90s with the isale eko boys, The way they were quickly surrounded it was like magic. Since then they have been paying extra rent for their oversight. There is one thing we call (Isasi) ![]() ![]() At the end of the day. Igbos are very okay with yorubas and this is an honest truth. U can say the same of yorubas to a point but on a larger scale igbos are more comfortable with yorubas. Strictly business terms my friend. No more ![]() Its because yoruba muslims are not as radical, they have been dealing with yorubas more, they are more inter marriages btw igbos and yorubas more, they are more likely to do good or bad with yorubas in many situations, it is common knowledge that the igbos and yorubas and others in btw make the south states of nigeria more vibrant, together on an equal and honest footing igbos, yorubas, and in btw and behind, above, etc can make Nigeria very great. On this note I agree. Yorubas like the Ibo girls banana no be small. ![]() |
Re: Yoruba Community Alleges Marginalisation In Enugu by yommyuk: 6:20pm On Oct 29, 2009 |
You have a handful of Yoruba students and teachers in Eastern Universities, u got that one right. handful indeed. ![]() whereas half of the population of students and a quarter of the Faculty in almost all your universities are Igbos. For where! dream on ![]() The one who lives, shits and dines in his closet and the other who moves out to gain a wider perspective? So that knowlege gained by the Ibos is used to be bring fake stuff from abroad abi ![]() Your educated ones have all left for abroad. Most never come back. Most of the nigerians abroad that have spent 20years or more abroad without coming home with their families are IBOs - 80% of them. I meet them all the time. We call them COCONUT NIGERIANS Even Chinua Achebe that I used to respect did a runner (Like Ojukwu) |
Re: Yoruba Community Alleges Marginalisation In Enugu by yommyuk: 6:24pm On Oct 29, 2009 |
In the history of Nigeria, when have Igbos and Yorubas ever engaged in the type of confrontation you're dreaming about here? Of course some Nairaland Igbos and other misguided elements are thirsting for Yoruba blood and longing for slaughter, but right now you're yarning bollocks. @ tpia Don't mind them. They is just letting their imagination run riot ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Yoruba Community Alleges Marginalisation In Enugu by Abagworo(m): 6:55pm On Oct 29, 2009 |
Most never come back. Most of the nigerians abroad that have spent 20years or more abroad without coming home with their families are IBOs - 80% of them. I meet them all the time. We call them COCONUT NIGERIANS igbos see everywhere they settle as home and its not bad.if other nigerians were like that,we would have achieved considerable unity.even inside igboland,they settle in another town.for example aba is made up of more than 80% non-indigenes. |
Re: Yoruba Community Alleges Marginalisation In Enugu by mekuslogan: 7:37pm On Oct 29, 2009 |
@Yommy UK, is UK for father's land? During xmas, easter and new yam festivities, you need to see how the roads are blocked with Igbo people migrating back home. We stay were we choose but we have our minds at home. + The fact that half of the students in your universities are Igbo and the fact that 0.0003% of students in Igbo universities are Yoruba speaks volume of who is who in present-day Nigeria. The JAMB stats confirms that. |
Re: Yoruba Community Alleges Marginalisation In Enugu by OPCman: 8:03pm On Oct 29, 2009 |
The weapon of Our warfare is more than man made. Spirtually, We will send all ibos packing they will not know what befell them. Naked you will be sent your way out without a dime. Isasi, asasi, aje'bina-it works with the speed of light ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Tabani ka'mu eni ola lamamu- they will just be shooting one themselves ![]() (yommyuk, don't kill me with laughter, I beg) Igbos have an above average knowledge of most ethnic groups in nigeria and will be more likely to strike hard at precise targets while the yorubas will be more likely to strike mistaken identities and include more ethnic groups; In your dream. I don't why you guys think you can defeat Yoruba when it comes to war in Nigeria. What gives some Ibos the impression that if war breaks out in Nigeria tomorrow you can defeat Yoruba ![]() ![]() Any war! propaganda, gorilla, or conventional ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Yoruba Community Alleges Marginalisation In Enugu by AloyEmeka6: 8:21pm On Oct 29, 2009 |
tpia.: Its not surpruisng that your judgment is lopsided. This particular tread was started by YommyUK in order to deride igbos and not for once have you called him to order yet you are pointing fingers at igbos for defending themselves. Tribalism on Nairaland is not one sided; either side usually aggravates the other who usually come to defend themselves. The only constant factor here is they have the same players on either side under different handles. Mekuslogan who is igbo opened few treads days ago to deride Yorubas over the Bode issue, in the same vein, YommuYuk did another in this tread. Nobody is seeking the Yoruba blood and longing for slaughter. Last time I checked, it was the OPC who did that to igbos in Idumota and not the other way round. Thanks to the likes of Bola Tinubu, Gani Adams, Femi Falana who defused the situation then. I was a witness and many OPC were slaughtered too in retaliation. Have you heard of igbos slaughtering Yorubas in the east no matter how small you claim they are?. Get off the high horse, nobody is thirsting for your blood for you are not isi ewu. |
Re: Yoruba Community Alleges Marginalisation In Enugu by Kanto: 9:00pm On Oct 29, 2009 |
Three issues to address here. First Yorubas cannot fight a war because cowardice flows in their bloodstream. The Igbos fought a war against the rest of nigeria for 3 years, but when June 12 wahala came all the Yorubas did was to run into exile. Bola Tinubu, Wole Soyinka, Lt general Alani Akinrinade and all the other Yoruba cowards all ran into exile. It was a great opportunity for them to show their fighting skills but they fled like impalas. Little wonder General Oladipo Diya a whole General was crying and begging Abacha when he was caught over a coup plot. I dont see how such cottage cowards who have only loudmouths can fight a war. Secondly some ignorant folks have been making so much noise about Lagos, as if the Yorubas built Lagos. Lagos was developed by the federal government with money from the Niger-Delta as Nigeria's capital the same way Abuja is presently being developed, plus the efforts of other Nigerians who set-up their businesses and corporate headquaters in Lagos. So those ignorant Yorubas who come here to make noise should go back to school or shut up. If the Yorubas where such great city builders, it should have reflected in other Yoruba cities, but what you see in Ibadan, Abeokuta, Ado ekiti, Akure etc are stinky cesspits with old rusty buildings and a colony of dirty brats defecating in public places and wiping their anus with their bare hands. Ogunpa river in Ibadan stinks to high heavens because the dirty brats there have turned it into a public toilet where they all line up to defecate publicly everyday. So much for the so called Yoruba sophistication. The ignorant idiots who come here to bore us with Lagos that was developed by the federal government as the federal government is once again doing in Abuja should spare us their idiocy. Very soon some northerners will start making noise with Abuja when all nigerians know that Abuja was built from the scratch with money from the Niger-Delta. Thirdly, as for Nigeria's breakup, Yorubas cannever leave nigeria because they are parasites. When the civil war came, the so called sophisticated Yorubas had the opportunity to go and form their own nation, but they choose to fight and die for one nigeria. After making mouth that nigeria is a mere geographical expression Awolowo turned into an emergence soldier fighting for one nigeria. Stupid hypocritic parasites. |
Re: Yoruba Community Alleges Marginalisation In Enugu by ezeagu(m): 9:08pm On Oct 29, 2009 |
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