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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:13pm On May 10, 2013
snydergp:


When young man have youthful overzealous enthusiasm and Ego this is what normally happens they loose site of anmy logic and talk all kinds of bullsh**it which they know totally 00000 about.

http://allafrica.com/stories/201101250863.html

Read that before you come and talk as if there's no real trade of goods and services from SA to Cameroon MR.

Here is some other facts you Cameroonpride don't know anything about.

In 2010, trade surplus between SA and Cameroon stood in favor of South Africa at 58Billion CFA Francs, while Cameroon exports barely reached 1billion CFA Francs.

South Africa is trading in mainly Telecommunications companies, confectionery,wine and other spirits businesses, while Cameroon exports mainly timber and other petroleum products.

http://www.minepat.gov.cm/index.php/en/component/k2/item/28-a-delegation-of-south-african-investors-in-cameroon

Now I hope your ignorant backward thinking mind will now stop talking like a 7year old who don't know this is the 21st century and almost every single Africanm nation trade in one or other way these days even if there's sometimes diplomatic issues, but in general there is mutual respect that one can't do without the other.

Now I wonder what excuse you'll use to get of of this one.grin

i really don't have the time to throw insults..first of voice in 2013 people don't quote 2010 stats or articles anymore, furthermore ...the main Cameroonian partners are known so stop tripping and making stuffs out of your azz, we have a liquors companies in Cameroon, and the liquors we import come from : France and China.....Cameroon oil products is used by the USA that doesn't mean we influence the USA or that GAbon do...like i said the only company with a minimum of influence in Cameroon is MTN which is ranked behind orange, and receive a lot of competition from Camtel(cameroon telecommunication) and Etoo company....

the main partners of Cameroon(in term of export) are:

FRance
Nigeria
Spain
Germany
your SA has no influence it is not a big deal so stop digging old articles , your article even shows that Cameroon is not interested in your market ,hence your people coming over here to boost the exchange. undecided undecided

how many people use spirituals wines? lol you are funny sir i'm majoring in business with interest in finance and econmy , my dream is to transform Cameroon so i know more than u in term of econmy esp when Cameroon is involved.
beside i never said SA and Cameroon were not trading, i keep saying your influence is zero....
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AwodwaGyanOniwe: 12:15pm On May 10, 2013
@Otum,Campride,Drewza,zetdee etc..

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:26pm On May 10, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE: there are more Cameroonian in France , US, GErmany and UK than in Gabon, guinea or Nigeria and you really think we will go all the way down in south Africa? MAny Cameroonian in SA? are u all right? maybe 100 0r 200

There's ±7000-10000 Cameroonians living in SA get your facts straight. French Puppets why do France still control your currency.

France has been raping all former colonies for decades now and still your so called independent country is under French Treasury control.

http://m.thinkafricapress.com/?url=http%3A2F%2thinkafricapress.com%2Feconomy%2Fconsensual-rape-francafricique-currency-markets#2815

tongue
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by otumfour(m): 12:28pm On May 10, 2013
AwodwaGyanOniwe: @Otum
Greetings son of the soil and hope ur fine.

Today I was happy to see on CNN the name of GHANA among BEST PLACES TO INVEST IN AFRICA 2013.
These countries were GHANA,BOSTWANA,KENYA,SOUTH AFRICA oops Nigeria was not listed here. Ghana is very different to all WEST AFRICAN NATIONS, Ghana is the only country there where everything is working.

Ghana has the highest HDI index in WEST AFRICA, best univerities and honest people. Unlike most west african states where theres all sorts of rubbish(wars,corruption etc..) Hence I said I wish Ghana was an ISLAND just CAPE VERDE or MADAGASCAR just to see our people away from bad people.


Sad trueth is NIGERIANS are fooling themselves here everyday by trying to emulate China or India. The westerners are keeping these fools happy by giving them FALSE CLAIMS. In 2050 Nigeria will overtake France,UK etc.ha ha am sure these countries are WAITING FOR NIGERIA

THANK GOD IM NOT A NIGERIAN....In UK they known for STINKING grin grin grin grin grin grin grin


I'm fine brother, I love the way u keep bombarding this place wit facts and no lies, cuz peeps on here are just too used to lies mann...

shocked shocked shocked wasn't even aware of tht CNN info, it fills my heart wit joy, reading ur compliments, it shows tht our hard work as a nation, will never go unnoticed, there's more to do tho, unlike our neighbours who enjoy beating their chests to mediocrity, we stay humble and keep moving ahead.....

Ghanaians in general tend to be welcoming & peaceful, some animals confuse tht to be our weakness till they cross certain boundaries, then we show 'em their place..

keep spanking these clueless nyggaz till they wakeup and stop worshipping mediocrity.

grin grin grin grin grin grin hope ur good too btw grin grin grin

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:41pm On May 10, 2013
snydergp:

There's ±7000-10000 Cameroonians living in SA get your facts straight. French Puppets why do France still control your currency.

France has been raping all former colonies for decades now and still your so called independent country is under French Treasury control.

http://m.thinkafricapress.com/?url=http%3A2F%2thinkafricapress.com%2Feconomy%2Fconsensual-rape-francafricique-currency-markets#2815

tongue


I don't think you even understand what you keep copying and pasting here, let me ask you a question very quickly , if i go to SA and buy wine in "Gros" then i come back to Cameroon those does it mean you(SA) are influencing Cameroon>?

as for the population of Cameroon in SA, i said i didn't have the real stats but it doesn't change the fact that i was right there are more Cameroonian in the West than in Any part of Africa(even combined)

As for Cameroon please stay cool, not that i'm happy with the situation but i don't it is different from SA where the white control 90%of the wealth

Also these invaders esp french used the direct rule during and selected all our rulers afetr the invasion so far angry angry angry, anyway this will change with my generation cool cool
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:54pm On May 10, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE:


I don't think you even understand what you keep copying and pasting here, let me ask you a question very quickly , if i go to SA and buy wine in "Gros" then i come back to Cameroon those does it mean you(SA) are influencing Cameroon>?

as for the population of Cameroon in SA, i said i didn't have the real stats but it doesn't change the fact that i was right there are more Cameroonian in the West than in Any part of Africa(even combined)

As for Cameroon please stay cool, not that i'm happy with the situation but i don't it is different from SA where the white control 90%of the wealth

Also these invaders esp french used the direct rule during and selected all our rulers afetr the invasion so far angry angry angry, anyway this will change with my generation cool cool

What are whites controlling because just last week a report was released showing that there are now more blacks middle class citizens then whites in SA. That situation has long turned the corner my friend. The biggest public investment pension fund in SA which has almost $800bn in under its control, 90% of its investors are black.

The issue here is trade is contributing to Cameroons economy and 58bn CFA's aren't cheap money. Stop arguing like a child.

The difference is SA's currency isn't pegged to any EU state, it is independent.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:00pm On May 10, 2013
snydergp:

What are whites controlling because just last week a report was released showing that there are now more blacks middle class citizens then whites in SA. That situation has long turned the corner my friend. The biggest public investment pension fund in SA which has almost $800bn in under its control, 90% of its investors are black.

The issue here is trade is contributing to Cameroons economy and 58bn CFA's aren't cheap money. Stop arguing like a child.

The difference is SA's currency isn't pegged to any EU state, it is independent.
when i say you don't even understand why you keep copying and pasting lol , do you even get basic economics?

the 58bn$ represent what you people got which means the money comes from Cameroon which means we are the one boosting your economy .......you are not even a child you are just clueless so stop humiliating yourself.....
from your arcticle we only received 1billion of FCFA(that's not even the budget the budget of the smallest ministry in Cameroon) when you on the other hand received 58billions of franc cfa...now do the math ...
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:09pm On May 10, 2013
as for middle class you clearly lack basic in economy ...when we look the control of the wealth middle class doesn't count and it is quite obvious that there are more black middle class, after all you are the majority ...when we talk about the control of the wealth we look at the rich people how many rich black families ? how many black own top companies? how many blacks provide jobs etc? you work in a white company or mine , you earn good money do you think that means you control the wealth? BIG NO the dude can fire you and your family will go back to poverty , he will hire another black who will boast about being a middle class then the cycle continue...so stop pretending it is a known fact that white still control the wealth in your country

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:11pm On May 10, 2013
as for middle class you clearly lack basic in economy ...when we look at the control of the wealth middle class doesn't count and it is quite obvious that there are more black middle class, after all you are the majority ...when we talk about the control of the wealth we look at the rich people how many rich black families ? how many black own top companies? how many black provide jobs etc? you work in a white company or mine , you earn good money do you think that means you control the wealth? BIG NO the dude can fire you and your family will go back to poverty , he will hire another black who will boast about being a middle class then the cycle continue...so stop pretending it is a known fact that white still control the wealth in your country ..
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:35pm On May 10, 2013
andrewza: Back to milltary.

For Cameroonpride. Has cameroon heard replaced there LAV150s. I heard they had a order to do so but have not heard if it was complet.
will check and back to u
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:36pm On May 10, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE: as for middle class you clearly lack basic in economy ...when we look at the control of the wealth middle class doesn't count and it is quite obvious that there are more black middle class, after all you are the majority ...when we talk about the control of the wealth we look at the rich people how many rich black families ? how many black own top companies? how many black provide jobs etc? you work in a white company or mine , you earn good money do you think that means you control the wealth? BIG NO the dude can fire you and your family will go back to poverty , he will hire another black who will boast about being a middle class then the cycle continue...so stop pretending it is a known fact that white still control the wealth in your country ..



The richest man in SA is Black not white and he owns a consortium of mine companies.

I've never worked for a white man and never will I'm in the SAAF and I also have private family business dealings.

In SA no company can function without a black share holder of atleast 30% and employment equity requires all companies to have blacks present in all management structures. BEE(black economic empowerment) though with many problems has transformed the SA economy where no goverment contract can be signed without being BEE today.

It seems you don't understand something here.

What I mean by middle class is that blacks are now spending and controlling the sale of services more then whites they own more property in the middle class sections then whites, therefore wealth is created in that segment of society and its growing gradually.


I really don't know what your definition wealth is but I certainly know it differs from country to country, standards of living is what counts in general.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by sithwell: 1:36pm On May 10, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE: that's not the point ..the point is they don't like you and won't mind trading partners if they have the possibility .ask yourself why they diversify their training? you talk like if it is 100% love..Botswana want to fly free and SA is a pain in their azz ....don't b surprised when the US-Africom will b constructed there

Fair enough, but give us a list of countries that do business on the basis that they love each other. Everyone wants to fly free, but the reality is that this is wishful thinking for some.

Countries do business because they need each other. Not because they love each other. I don't know why we're so fixated on love, which is never the driver of cross-border relations.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:45pm On May 10, 2013
snydergp:

Since when has landing a handful of cowards in Darfur become South Sudan do you even know there's a difference between South Sudan and Darfur region in Sudan. SA's former President Thabo Mbeki brokered the peace process between South and Northern Sudans arab led goverment.

I can see you haven't lost your foolish ways and distinct twisting of the truth even when people give you sources you act like a fool.

Here is proof to what SPLM in Sudan thinks about Mbeki and what South Africa has already done for lasting peace in Sudan.
http://bnaidarfur.org/2013/01/19/splm-n-rebels-say-mbeki-can-broker-comprehensive-process-for-peace-in-sudan/


dafur and south sudan are joined by a long common border. i meant nigeria was involved in both dafur war and south sudan peace negotiations. nigerian army landed in dafur and stopped the k.illing and r.aping of blacks by north sudan arabs.

nigeria did work succesfully on both dafur and south sudan, thats what i men.

stop telling lies, south african ex-president mbeki did NOT bring peace to south sudan by himself, it was AU african union, mbeki was just on the AU team/panel. see the truth below you liar, you stealing other nations glory and transfer it to south africa.

weblink source : http://www.voxafrica.co.uk/news/video/?v=0_nksyvo3f

where were you when these teenage boys Seleka rebels recruited from the local farms defeated south african army in CAR ?
you ran away from nairaland during that time, @andrewza was here alone to face the shame and disgrace of south african army and special forces in the hands of small boys with old AK-47 rifles and dirty almost expired RPG, they uprooted your modern, nice looking, video/photography psecialist army of south africa.

now jacob zuma is begging nigeria to help train your incompetent and cowardly army of south africa, okay goodluck jonathan has agreed to help train south african army in art of real warfare as your friendly african brothers, not hollywood photgraghy and posting photos of nice looking weapons that cannot save your coward army that runs away.

seleka rebels captured south african army uniforms and vehicles, driving around town in the 4x4 combat vehicles of the run-away south african army now ranked number 5th in african military rankings.

[img]http://www.citypress.co.za/wp-content/themes/canvas/functions/thumb.php?src=wp-content/uploads/2013/03/child-sodliers.jpg&w=630&h=0&zc=1&q=90[/img]

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:56pm On May 10, 2013
Mbuisi: SA has an influence all over Africa.

...and south africa influenced seleka rebels on the battle field ? lol grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:01pm On May 10, 2013
Defenceweb:


this your fine SANDF soldiers will run away if ugly Seleka rebel boys show up
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:14pm On May 10, 2013
Mbuisi:
My friend come on, Why SA today has so many Cameroonians if it does not have any influence over them. To tell you the truth everybody in Kenya and the entire horn of Africa are crazy about SA.

Nigeria with all its booming economy is not a desirable destination for Africans. Africans from destitute countries would rather go to xenophobic SA other than Nigeria

only africans who cannot make it to europe and america , come to south africa as last option, last choice, second class.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 2:21pm On May 10, 2013
agaugust please knock it of with this CAR thing. You have no proof to back up your cliams. Yet still spread your lies.







Another qustion. This time for nigeria. Nigeria is supposed to have 2 mechnised infantry brigads. But other than the BTR-3(only 47 not all are IFV even basicaly it one battlion worth) I don't see any other IFV in nigerias orbit. So are you useing one of the APC has a IFV
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:22pm On May 10, 2013
AwodwaGyanOniwe:

The whites population in SA is declining everyday, between 1994-2011 over 1million whites left SA.
To answer you my friend, I can say these guys are leaving on their own than being kicked out.

...one million whites left south africa because they know the future is no longer bright...$40 billion external debt,
unemployment 13 million people out of 50 million population, economic time bomb.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 2:24pm On May 10, 2013
agaugust:

...one million whites left south africa because they know the future is no longer bright...$40 billion external debt,
unemployment 13 million people out of 50 million population, economic time bomb.

South africa is richer know than it ws during aparthied. All so I doubt it all external debt. Most is internal loans.

Not to menstion we can aford our payments. Debt is not a bad thing.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:25pm On May 10, 2013
Mbuisi:

I meant that SA cities are built more like European cities. You know a typical African country and so I won't go much into details,

for 100 years the white men built south africa to european standard with belief that they will stay there forever

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:37pm On May 10, 2013
AwodwaGyanOniwe: @Everyone
According to the National Bureau of Statistics, Nigeria has a population of over 67 million unemployed youths as of 2011. This is out of a population of about 167 million persons.

world bank has rejected NBS reports about nigerian economy poverty rates or unemployment rates, and other data etc

weblink source

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/issues-in-the-new-poverty-report/137011/


[b]many nigerian adults and youths claim to be unemployed, yet they trade everyday selling mobile phones/recharge cards, food, drinks, etc. they make money and buy meat pie and malt to eat at Mr.Biggs and at night they eat eba and goatmeat, yet they claim unemployed....because they don't want to pay Tax to government


about 70% of nigerians never pay Tax in their life time, and the government does not mind, afterall, they dont get any money from government for welfare benefits.

nigeria understands itself, you south africans do not understand nigeria.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by sithwell: 2:39pm On May 10, 2013
agaugust:

for 100 years the white men built south africa to european standard with belief that they will stay there forever

Assuming you're right, it doesn't matter what historical factors contribute towards a country's development. What matters is what a country does to conserve and improve on the gains made, today.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 2:39pm On May 10, 2013
agaugust:


dafur and south sudan are joined by a long common border. i meant nigeria was involved in both dafur war and south sudan peace negotiations. nigerian army landed in dafur and stopped the k.illing and r.aping of blacks by north sudan arabs.

nigeria did work succesfully on both dafur and south sudan, thats what i men.

stop telling lies, south african ex-president mbeki did NOT bring peace to south sudan by himself, it was AU african union, mbeki was just on the AU team/panel. see the truth below you liar, you stealing other nations glory and transfer it to south africa.

weblink source : http://www.voxafrica.co.uk/news/video/?v=0_nksyvo3f

where were you when these teenage boys Seleka rebels recruited from the local farms defeated south african army in CAR ?
you ran away from nairaland during that time, @andrewza was here alone to face the shame and disgrace of south african army and special forces in the hands of small boys with old AK-47 rifles and dirty almost expired RPG, they uprooted your modern, nice looking, video/photography psecialist army of south africa.

now jacob zuma is begging nigeria to help train your incompetent and cowardly army of south africa, okay goodluck jonathan has agreed to help train south african army in art of real warfare as your friendly african brothers, not hollywood photgraghy and posting photos of nice looking weapons that cannot save your coward army that runs away.

seleka rebels captured south african army uniforms and vehicles, driving around town in the 4x4 combat vehicles of the run-away south african army now ranked number 5th in african military rankings.

[img]http://www.citypress.co.za/wp-content/themes/canvas/functions/thumb.php?src=wp-content/uploads/2013/03/child-sodliers.jpg&w=630&h=0&zc=1&q=90[/img]


And they 2 diffrent areas.

Darfu is not at peace. Far from it even south sudan still has troubil.

He was a leading member of the peace team and credited for much of the work.



Once again you spread your lies and missinfomastion.

Seleka had only a few child solders. The vast majorty of them where merc from chad and sudan. Not farmers. Runaway. The guy was deployed to entebe. And proble had no access or was following opsec rulls. Aka no leaking info. Nor where the AK's old. Any all of the SA parabats killed wher killed at the Y juncstion when they cam under fire from the rear from 23mm auto canons, 30mm AGLs, mortas(source is in afrikanse. Still want it) not AK47's.

Where do you see any request of training for SANDF by nigerians. Post a source. I mean I know you a fool but that a out right lie. You should be banned for that.


I explianed how they got hold of that gear. And landcruisers are not combat 4x4. There was a caspir ambulance. That was the only vechile close to being a combat vechile in CAR. It was not captured. Nor where the SF hornets.

agaugust stope spreading lies and missinfomastion.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by sithwell: 2:46pm On May 10, 2013
otumfour:


I'm fine brother, I love the way u keep bombarding this place wit facts and no lies, cuz peeps on here are just too used to lies mann...

shocked shocked shocked wasn't even aware of tht CNN info, it fills my heart wit joy, reading ur compliments, it shows tht our hard work as a nation, will never go unnoticed, there's more to do tho, unlike our neighbours who enjoy beating their chests to mediocrity, we stay humble and keep moving ahead.....

Ghanaians in general tend to be welcoming & peaceful, some animals confuse tht to be our weakness till they cross certain boundaries, then we show 'em their place..

keep spanking these clueless nyggaz till they wakeup and stop worshipping mediocrity.

grin grin grin grin grin grin hope ur good too btw grin grin grin

I have huge respect for Ghana; and Sam Jonah is one of my boardroom heroes. I read his book a few years ago (Sam Jonah and the remaking of Ashanti), which goes into detail about Ghana's business environment. The way Ghana does business is admirable.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by sithwell: 2:52pm On May 10, 2013
agaugust:

many nigerian adults and youths claim to be unemployed, yet they trade everyday selling mobile phones/recharge cards, food, drinks, etc. they make money and buy meat pie and malt to eat at Mr.Biggs and at night they eat eba and goatmeat, yet they claim unemployed....because they don't want to pay Tax to government

"Employment" in a cash-in-hand-economy is not something to highlight as a positive. It's a structural defect in an economy; and no serious country sees it as a good thing.

See here how Australia struggles with it ----> http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/cashinhand-economy-is-costing-public-billions-20121020-27y5t.html
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AwodwaGyanOniwe: 3:04pm On May 10, 2013
@Aga

TWISTED DAFTY the world bank rejects this its not true NIGERIA IS A 1ST WORLD COUNTRY.
http://maptd.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/slum-population-in-urban-africa.jpg
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 3:05pm On May 10, 2013
sithwell:

Fair enough, but give us a list of countries that do business on the basis that they love each other. Everyone wants to fly free, but the reality is that this is wishful thinking for some.

Countries do business because they need each other. Not because they love each other. I don't know why we're so fixated on love, which is never the driver of cross-border relations.


We share the same views.

I was pointing to andrewza that Botswana is not compelled to b loyal to SA and wouldn't mind taking military advantage on them. Even if it means opening an American base in Botswana.

The problem with American bases is they are easy targets for American enemies, since they can strike the USA directly.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AwodwaGyanOniwe: 3:08pm On May 10, 2013
@Aga
Your brothers from the EAST being man handled by a Boere going to JAIL. Everyone hates Nigerians, one Afrikaner right winger said on Monye case he wished he can hang him.
AM SURE BY NOW YOUR BROTHERS ARE WIFEYS INSIDE, GETTING bleeped EVERYDAY. They'll come out HIV+.
cry cry cry cry cry

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