gst101: he does know the meal and he knows the dresses otherwise he wouldnt have said it in his previous posts that "people will laugh at him should he wear those funy dresses"

Msauza:

Ask your fellow Nigerians who reside in SA. They wear like us and leave all those apadas back home. In SA you will look funny if you are seen in public wearing those Nigerian attire.

andrewza:

Only in nambia but you can use it in some of other southern african countries.

sheyie2007:
total bulls#it, I've been to your country, young man... I've seen south Africans wear our native attires on Sundays to church... what tha hell is your point? I even know some Nigerian tailors making doe down there but not agbada

sheyie2007:
Namibia is in the southern region..

gst101: @ SAs, who told you nigeria isnt a developed democracy? What is the def of democracy? In it, you will find govt of the people. We have had election results cancelled in nigeria and incumbents replaced. We have had incumbents loose in an open election. All of that signify a good democracy.

The fact that we criticize our govt shows we have freedom of expression and no one is afraid to air out his own view. Thats democracy for you.

You cannot say the same for an SA where an incumbent will have problems with jacob zuma and the next thing is he gets sacked from his office. This means that jacob zuma is like a demi god in SA. You cant tell me that is democracy, can you?

gst101: also we do not cdo 'corrective' rape of lesbians.

Msauza:

There is no African country that has no level of illiteracy. It is mostly this group that become victims of this evil foreign traditional practitioners in SA. Without being xenophobic, our new democratic dispensation has brought us many problems through the influx of many foreigners in our neighbourhood. Before ANC came into power our nation was a healthy nation in Africa, free from Ebola, sickle cell disease, Herpetitus B, Drugs and HIV, because our borders were protected day and night. HIV was something very foreign and could only be heard about over radios and televisions as something foreign. Ever since then we have seen the influx of foreign pastors and traditional doctors of African origin, majority of whom are Nigerians claiming to cure AIDS, promoting ritual killings and molesting of babies. This is why many South Africans think that Apartheid SA was much better than democratic South Africa as they were free from many sicknesses.

gst101: why dont you stop this cowardice and be thankful to pst chris.

gst101: some body asked why we emigrate if our country is good as we claim.

Well there are three reasons for it. I am not going to tell lies just to win arguements. This is becos, unlike you, we know the benefits of being honest. We intrinsicly know it.

The first reason is that people find better opportunity

the second one is regretable. Yes i say that becos we are honest people. Unlike you, we wash our dirty linien outside and thats why in 13 years of democracy, we have achieved so much i cannot begin to name.

That second reason is ignorance. Some people believe every thing abroad is better than back home. So you find them in countries where things are far worse than it is back home. Instead of doing research about the country they want to go so as to know the political, economic and social climate to know if they can fit into that society, they just pick up their belongings and go. These are the people who become victims of racism in on european streets.

gst101: my dear, thats what i am saying. Why should the internal problem of a party becom national issue? It goes to show you are a one party stat! Such a thing cannot happen in nigeria. One party has a problem and it becomes a national issue So that your prssident is sacked by a more powerful man? And you call that democracy? And you want to compare your democracy with ours where the powerful OBJ couldnt have his way with his third term agenda.

snydergp:
That because ur laws are so backward that they don't even allow gays and lesbians to live freely and marry whoever they so chooses. Some of ur laws are still 1970's anti freedom of expression legislation.

Nigeria will never have a open Gay/Lesbian parade marching in its cities Lagos or Abuja and that's a Fact.

Msauza:

You lie, South Africanscans more into fashion than traditional wear. Speaking of young men wearing Nigerian attire is just a claim and unfounded. I am a South African, living in Jozi and dont come and tell me lies about my country and its people. We are fascinated by expensive designer labels, swagg bra. The likes of Aigner, Abiter, cavellas, KG, Lacoste, DMD, Polos, Louis Veitton, Murratti, Dolce and Gabana, Versage, Emporio Armani, etc is what we wear not some nameless nonsense that will make us look like chameleons and Christmas trees. Worst of it all no women will even want to date you to cinemas or restaurants as the whole world will be laughing after you. Ask your brothers who reside in South Africa, if they are honest they will advice you that the moment you touch SA you must forget about all those apadas. Don't worry you have not yet been exposed to that and since our clothing stores now make their way to Nigeria in numbers you will soon be introduced to some of this labels.

snydergp:

Victims of what because u'll only be stigmatized and labeled if the majority of ur immigrants don't comment crimes wherever they are.

I can with confidence and with verifiable facts say that there are more nigerian nationals in jails the world over due to there criminal ways more then any other african nation. Just come to SA and see how many are in jail for kidnappings, drug peddling, prostitution and even worse the trafficking of underage girls from SA and other African countries.

I still say if ur nation were so great why are there more then 500000 of ur people in SA and why are 10% of these migrants involved in unlawful activities.

Another question is it when this 10% who do these crimes are caught and jailed the rest of ur people claim SA police are targeting and are victims of racial hatred including xenophobia yet in even Indonesia over 18 of ur countryman are facing Death row as we speak.

So please stop ur labeling of countries because ur people aren't angels where they immigrate. I can post many things abt ur countryman's conduct which actually gives the majority of ur good people a bad name.

gst101: stop trying to justify what cannot be justified. Every attemt you make is unsuccessful. Dont you have an independent constitution like we have in nigeria? Any country whose constitution is respectful of the ruling party cannot be said to be more developed than ours. We are a more developed democracy, fact!

Msauza:

So just imagine me wearing Nigerian attire, so to be mistaken as a Nigerian drug lord. Being Nigerian is not the symbol of pride across the world. In airports everywhere, especially in Europe and America you will be labelled or suspected as terrorist linked to Boko Haram or Al-Qaeda network and be indecently searched all over the place.

sheyie2007:
LOL..lie? I'll never take any of your response serious cuz you've not been to Nigeria.. and I'm exposed that you are in all measures...

Msauza:

Hello, I live in a developed city better than any city in Nigeria. I am surrounded by people of different cultures, the so called rainbow nation every time I step out of the door. I don't fly to Europe or America if I want to see white people, Chinese, Indian, Italian, Greek, Jew, German, Portuguese, American they are just there on my neighbourhood. I don't see black everywhere I go and that suffice to make me more privileged and exposed than you.

gst101: mbeki mentored OBJ? I just cant laugh. Is it the same mbeki we house here all through you strugle to be seen as humans? My dear go and sleep. I can see you are a "born free" no wonder you dont even know your history.

But there is hope son. I am ready to encourage you to do some study since there is no one to encourage SAs to read.

gst101:

look at this guy lecturing me on se.x. Well dont worry i already know you in SA are highly promiscuous hence your high HIV rate. But pls no spoil me ooo. I still be virgin.

Dont talk like zuma was trying to advice you on cleanliness. Dont pretend you dont know the flaw in his statement. "take a nice shower after se.x THAT YOU MIGHT BE CURED OF HIV". I can see you are already ashamed of your commander in chief so no need for further bashing incase you go commit suicide.

gst101: thats where the difference between Nigerians and SAs is. That you dont care if you elite are cheating you, if they areshitting in your head and robbing in broad day light.

We here in 9ja dont take that from our leaders. And that you can confirm here on NL. At the begining of last year, our CBN gov, finance and petroleum ministers were forced by the masses to show up in a town hall meeting where they had to literally beg us to listen to them on the removal of the fuel subsidy. These are people who in the past will take dicisions unilaterally and say to hell with every one else.

But becos we refused to take shiit from them, one of our four mega refinaries is working 100percent. This is a promise they made at that meeting. The FG is unpresidentedly keeping its promises. Benefit of talking!

gst101: how have you been able to export your culture out of your borders with those movies?

As for the traditional nigerian dress and food, your msauza mentioned Agbada some where in previous pages. He also know of fufu and egwusi as well as pounded yam.

I am sure he eats it, you can go to his house if you want to know it. And pls be careful so that he doest "kill the boer" lol

sheyie2007:
LOL. we all studied government and history in high school.. I bet you didn't, it's not even included in the SA academic curriculum..

gst101: no our laws are not backward. They are just not stupid.

Isnt it interesting that a country that claims to protect gay people is the one whose citizens do 'corrective' rape? And the country that is seen as anti gay isnt doing this shameless thing they call corrective rape
who told you gay people were not free in nigeria. If you see antogonism in nigeria toward gay people, it is becos of david cameron who thinks the british empire still exists and that he can exert a virtual authority over anyone.

Before he came up with that blunder speech in perth, gay people were going about their normal activities only that they were not allowed to get married

sheyie2007:
distinctive feature: it contains a lengthy list of socio-economic rights, (which the drafters hoped would protect and assist those disadvantaged by Apartheid and those who are poor and vulnerable) thats why its better than the United states constitution, however its not matured.. thats what puts Nigeria constitution above it.. go figure.

sheyie2007:
Rand is legal tender in southern African countries.

Msauza:

Democracy is an egalitarian system in which everyone is entitled to practice their rights freely without anyone including the government encroaching upon their rights. In Nigeria women are still impeded to exercise their full rights as compared to their male counterparts who are regarded as superior in decision making. Same sex marriages is still a controversial issue in Nigeria where those who are strongly defending tradition stand opposed to it. Stoning to death is still a widespread practice and remedial action against promiscuous women in Northern Part of Nigeria majority of whom have not successfully accepted democracy and instead are calling for Sharia law to take over the whole of Nigeria. The most important factor in democracy is when is fully and not partially accepted by those in which it applies. Democracy has been implemented in Nigeria, but about [50%-27%] of citizens do not believe in absolute freedom of person, rather believe that a person should be controlled with rules and principles that support religions and traditions.

Democracy does not support any religion and traditions, it anchors methods of freedom of person and limits such freedom through whenever it extents to trampling upon rights of other individuals. Same sex marriages does not encroach upon anybody's right, thus the reason why it has been legalised in modern democracies. Legalisation of abortions as well does not encroach upon anybody's right.

snydergp:

When it comes to food and agricultural exports don't even try to compare us with each other because if u go to all EU states today u will find SA wine and beverages even the world over, we are still the only net food exporter on the continent even if we have semi desert climatic conditions the most parts of SA.

By the way the second biggest wine and beverage company in the world is a Proudly South African Company named SAB-Miller which means that the hole world drinks SA made beer and wines.

agaugust:

Ah ! no wonder south Africans do a lot of nonsense talk and behavior, snydergp just informed us now that south Africa is a nation drunk with excess alcohol.

So your footballers are always drunk with alcohol and they lose the African nations cup playing at home in front of your south African president when a war damaged Mali was able to put south African football team inside the dustbin garbage.

Capnd143: [b]i refused to comment Msauza because of the respect, i have 4 you, but your comments above compelled me to! Ok . .lets go on a close analysis. NIgeria has practised democracy for only 13years, mainly due to military rule, with it gargantuos muslim population, it still strives to maintain democracy,notwithstanding widespread oppositions from "acclaimed" religion of peace codenamed "islam". Now which islamic country in the whole world, can say such of their govt modus operandus,just mention 1.

When almost most of the muslim population kick against democracy which entails egalitarianism that directly opposes the islamic belief of male superiority, do you honestly think there would have been an iorta of democratic tendencies? No. But yet stil nigerian govt are still democratic; freedom of the press, of speech, of religion, of association etc.

Even some "islamic miscreant" go to our dear president fb page and insult him, yet no military actions are taken because of freedom of speech, take for e.g recently when a Newyorker called obama a nigga on twitter, she was relieved of her duties and detained, this happen in a country that has practise democracy for who know? Maybe up to a 5-10 decades.

Nigerians staged protest without being clamned down on with force, can you say this of other muslim populated countries like libya,tunisia,yemen,egypt, in short the entire middle east and north african states? . My guess: No.

Preaching the gospel in countries like iran is a taboo and is sometimes punishable by death, which is in direct voilation of fundamental human rights, well a glance at nigerians spiritual nature will tell the tell, as even in the islamic core north, there are thousands of churches, and other religious set ups, notwithstanding the prevailing state established sharia laws.

There are many and many more, i cant just mention, please you are at freedom to express your self with validated truth dear Msauza. Thank you.[/b]

agaugust:

Ah ! no wonder south Africans do a lot of nonsense talk and behavior, snydergp just informed us now that south Africa is a nation drunk with excess alcohol.

So your footballers are always drunk with alcohol and they lose the African nations cup playing at home in front of your south African president when a war damaged Mali was able to put south African football team inside the dustbin garbage.