Msauza:

Let history speak for itself. Well, that's a well known fact that Africans moulded and shaped iron into bow and arrows, spears and open fire pots. That phenomena is evident in the history of Bushmen, the khoisan and the hottentots who were regarded as the first people. They have been in existence long before any tribe in Nigeria can ever come into existence. Speaking of savana people, the greatest slave traders of all. Who exchanged their own for a piece of cloth and facilitated for a process of mercantile slavery and further traded their trophy to the natives for the exchange of more slaves. My dear friend Nigeria never discovered fabric in their entire history, no matter how hard you will try to convince me, it will remain a propaganda before the eyes of many. If Nigeria discovered fabrics millennia ago, then why are they still importing a lot of wool, polyester, nylon and acrylic even to date? The history of white people in Africa dates back in 1400 before the actual colonisation and if you want to read more click below;

http://www.mongabay.com/history/nigeria/nigeria-european_slave_trade_in_west_africa.html

Henry120: There are over 9000 private security companies in SA. I'm sure CSS tactical rings an alarm. There is also a subsidiary of uk's G4S private security firm( one of the worlds largest private security firms) in SA.

Petrus van nievark is the chief executive of protea coin.

April 2011- march 2012, SA recorded

15,609 murders
64, 514 sexual offences
101,203 cases of aggravated robbery

I'm not here to incite , I'm just been direct. you lot( SA nationals) know those are not figures to be proud of. Even we in nigeria, who are currently battling an ins urgency in 3 states in the north( borno, yobe and kano) do not have casualty figures as high as that. Since the ins urgency in nigeria started in 2010-present, 3000 nigerians (may their souls rest in the bosom of the lord) have lost their lives, again nothing to be proud of, but we can see clearly that SA murder rates dwarfs that of nigeria.


The nigerian military is a highly professional, highly trained force , with the ability to adapt swiftly to ever changing warfare. Prior to 2010 the military, nigeria did not have any knowledge in battling extremism and islamic in surgency, but today even our greatest detractors can attest to the fact that we have been able to develop a new manual and have been able to curb the insurgency in the north. It takes tact. Using the best available equipments, including nigerian designed space technology to help us deal with the problem.

Nigeria's secret service/police, SSS or DSS, I would rank them as the best in africa, and at least in the top 20 bracket in the world. Those guys, men and women in the field and offices have done really really well. It is a model agency and a pride of our nation. Un equalled, and a model for other nations to copy.

That point been said I think nigeria has got a lot to learn from SA, in the same vein SA has got a lot to learn from nigeria. It would be in our very own interest to shun the constant bickering against each other and develop a continent that we can all be proud of. All africans black, white, mixed, indian and arab.

Henry120: @Syndergp, you purposely left out the fact that the reason SA army are all in their barracks, unlike the army in nigeria who are in the streets, is because SA has a large private security industry, totalling over 400, 000 security personnel. Well above the army and police in number combined. heavily armed with semi-automatic weapons and hand guns and ballistic vests. That is a huge number. In nigeria we do not have armed private security firms/ contractors.

It is a deliberate misinformation on your path, and I expect you to do the honourable thing and re modify your statement, adding the fact stated above.

Henry120: @Syndergp, you purposely left out the fact that the reason SA army are all in their barracks, unlike the army in nigeria who are in the streets, is because SA has a large private security industry, totalling over 400, 000 security personnel. Well above the army and police in number combined. heavily armed with semi-automatic weapons and hand guns and ballistic vests. That is a huge number. In nigeria we do not have armed private security firms/ contractors.

It is a deliberate misinformation on your path, and I expect you to do the honourable thing and re modify your statement, adding the fact stated above.

Henry120: There are over 9000 private security companies in SA. I'm sure CSS tactical rings an alarm. There is also a subsidiary of uk's G4S private security firm( one of the worlds largest private security firms) in SA.

Petrus van nievark is the chief executive of protea coin.

April 2011- march 2012, SA recorded

15,609 murders
64, 514 sexual offences
101,203 cases of aggravated robbery

I'm not here to incite , I'm just been direct. you lot( SA nationals) know those are not figures to be proud of. Even we in nigeria, who are currently battling an ins urgency in 3 states in the north( borno, yobe and kano) do not have casualty figures as high as that. Since the ins urgency in nigeria started in 2010-present, 3000 nigerians (may their souls rest in the bosom of the lord) have lost their lives, again nothing to be proud of, but we can see clearly that SA murder rates dwarfs that of nigeria.


The nigerian military is a highly professional, highly trained force , with the ability to adapt swiftly to ever changing warfare. Prior to 2010 the military, nigeria did not have any knowledge in battling extremism and islamic in surgency, but today even our greatest detractors can attest to the fact that we have been able to develop a new manual and have been able to curb the insurgency in the north. It takes tact. Using the best available equipments, including nigerian designed space technology to help us deal with the problem.

Nigeria's secret service/police, SSS or DSS, I would rank them as the best in africa, and at least in the top 20 bracket in the world. Those guys, men and women in the field and offices have done really really well. It is a model agency and a pride of our nation. Un equalled, and a model for other nations to copy.

That point been said I think nigeria has got a lot to learn from SA, in the same vein SA has got a lot to learn from nigeria. It would be in our very own interest to shun the constant bickering against each other and develop a continent that we can all be proud of. All africans black, white, mixed, indian and arab.

sheyie2007:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_textiles

Henry120: There are over 9000 private security companies in SA. I'm sure CSS tactical rings an alarm. There is also a subsidiary of uk's G4S private security firm( one of the worlds largest private security firms) in SA.

Petrus van nievark is the chief executive of protea coin.

April 2011- march 2012, SA recorded

15,609 murders
64, 514 sexual offences
101,203 cases of aggravated robbery

I'm not here to incite , I'm just been direct. you lot( SA nationals) know those are not figures to be proud of. Even we in nigeria, who are currently battling an ins urgency in 3 states in the north( borno, yobe and kano) do not have casualty figures as high as that. Since the ins urgency in nigeria started in 2010-present, 3000 nigerians (may their souls rest in the bosom of the lord) have lost their lives, again nothing to be proud of, but we can see clearly that SA murder rates dwarfs that of nigeria.


The nigerian military is a highly professional, highly trained force , with the ability to adapt swiftly to ever changing warfare. Prior to 2010 the military, nigeria did not have any knowledge in battling extremism and islamic in surgency, but today even our greatest detractors can attest to the fact that we have been able to develop a new manual and have been able to curb the insurgency in the north. It takes tact. Using the best available equipments, including nigerian designed space technology to help us deal with the problem.

Nigeria's secret service/police, SSS or DSS, I would rank them as the best in africa, and at least in the top 20 bracket in the world. Those guys, men and women in the field and offices have done really really well. It is a model agency and a pride of our nation. Un equalled, and a model for other nations to copy.

That point been said I think nigeria has got a lot to learn from SA, in the same vein SA has got a lot to learn from nigeria. It would be in our very own interest to shun the constant bickering against each other and develop a continent that we can all be proud of. All africans black, white, mixed, indian and arab.

Henry120: There are over 9000 private security companies in SA. I'm sure CSS tactical rings an alarm. There is also a subsidiary of uk's G4S private security firm( one of the worlds largest private security firms) in SA.

Petrus van nievark is the chief executive of protea coin.

April 2011- march 2012, SA recorded

15,609 murders
64, 514 sexual offences
101,203 cases of aggravated robbery

I'm not here to incite , I'm just been direct. you lot( SA nationals) know those are not figures to be proud of. Even we in nigeria, who are currently battling an ins urgency in 3 states in the north( borno, yobe and kano) do not have casualty figures as high as that. Since the ins urgency in nigeria started in 2010-present, 3000 nigerians (may their souls rest in the bosom of the lord) have lost their lives, again nothing to be proud of, but we can see clearly that SA murder rates dwarfs that of nigeria.


The nigerian military is a highly professional, highly trained force , with the ability to adapt swiftly to ever changing warfare. Prior to 2010 the military, nigeria did not have any knowledge in battling extremism and islamic in surgency, but today even our greatest detractors can attest to the fact that we have been able to develop a new manual and have been able to curb the insurgency in the north. It takes tact. Using the best available equipments, including nigerian designed space technology to help us deal with the problem.

Nigeria's secret service/police, SSS or DSS, I would rank them as the best in africa, and at least in the top 20 bracket in the world. Those guys, men and women in the field and offices have done really really well. It is a model agency and a pride of our nation. Un equalled, and a model for other nations to copy.

That point been said I think nigeria has got a lot to learn from SA, in the same vein SA has got a lot to learn from nigeria. It would be in our very own interest to shun the constant bickering against each other and develop a continent that we can all be proud of. All africans black, white, mixed, indian and arab.

Henry120: @Syndergp, you purposely left out the fact that the reason SA army are all in their barracks, unlike the army in nigeria who are in the streets, is because SA has a large private security industry, totalling over 400, 000 security personnel. Well above the army and police in number combined. heavily armed with semi-automatic weapons and hand guns and ballistic vests. That is a huge number. In nigeria we do not have armed private security firms/ contractors.

It is a deliberate misinformation on your path, and I expect you to do the honourable thing and re modify your statement, adding the fact stated above.

snydergp:

On that bolded statement I strongly disagree because there ur SSS is not the best nor does it feature in the top 20 or top 40 in the world for that matter.

Your SSS has grossly failed in there task to infiltrate BH even within ur own border which has led to serious "terrorist" problems. There are even reports of BH "infiltrating almost every security service in Nigeria". If ur SSS was as good as they claimed they should've detected the BH and other threats before they became a national emergency.

SA also had its fair share of terrorist activities even a few bombs which was planted in some areas in order to create Chaos to destabilize the country and to a civil war between white minorities, but our SASS quickly stopped the socalled "boere mag" and other smaller affiliated groups including the seizure of large amounts of weapons enough to start a small war in most african nations.

SA even recently apprehended several DRC nationals for plotting yet another waring front in DRC.

Secret Services are there to prevent and protect possible national, regional threats including the protection of a nations strategic interest and should not react after threats has already affected the nation, something which can not "always" be said of the Nigerian SSS in there strategic tasks. Your SSS is a far cry from being where, needs to be.

Yes I agree 100% about the fact that we should set a side our differences for the greater good of africa.

andrewza:

SA intelgent servis are a lot diffrent from nigerias SSS. There SSS is just another parmiltary force. You never ment to see a spook ever.

snydergp:

On that bolded statement I strongly disagree because there ur SSS is not the best nor does it feature in the top 20 or top 40 in the world for that matter.

Your SSS has grossly failed in there task to infiltrate BH even within ur own border which has led to serious "terrorist" problems. There are even reports of BH "infiltrating almost every security service in Nigeria". If ur SSS was as good as they claimed they should've detected the BH and other threats before they became a national emergency.

SA also had its fair share of terrorist activities even a few bombs which was planted in some areas in order to create Chaos to destabilize the country and to a civil war between white minorities, but our SASS quickly stopped the socalled "boere mag" and other smaller affiliated groups including the seizure of large amounts of weapons enough to start a small war in most african nations.

SA even recently apprehended several DRC nationals for plotting yet another waring front in DRC.

Secret Services are there to prevent and protect possible national, regional threats including the protection of a nations strategic interest and should not react after threats has already affected the nation, something which can not "always" be said of the Nigerian SSS in there strategic tasks. Your SSS is a far cry from being where, needs to be.

Yes I agree 100% about the fact that we should set a side our differences for the greater good of africa.

andrewza:

SA intelgent servis are a lot diffrent from nigerias SSS. There SSS is just another parmiltary force. You never ment to see a spook ever.

snydergp:

I know I just can't get over the fact that these guys claim to be the best yet the results are totally not even on par with the top 20 yet they make patriotic assessments claiming things the hole world knows are not even true.

Henry120:

I agree with you on your definition of what the secret service should be, however with nigeria's SSS, they have passed. The insurgency as we know it today, was first launched in 2009 during late president yar'adua( may he soul rest in peace) administration, and was put out by a brutal military crackdown. In 2011, this current hostilities began, I can confidently say that the SSS and the military have effectively stepped up to the occasion, the SSS in particular has scored more successes , arrest and killings of terrorists than say the indonesian detachment 88, if I am to compare the both of them.

This is a religious insurgency, idealogy based and very difficult to defeat not a bunch of disgruntled white south africans. It is safe to say in your context, the mossad also have failed, they allowed hamas smuggle in fajr5 rockets from iran, they also have been ineffective as there was a bomb blast in the center of tel aviv ( can't remember the particular city) last yr, the pakistani ISI is also a failure, same as india's intelligence agencies, Same goes for turkey.

I can confidently say that the SSS in it's present state has no equal, anywhere on the african continent.

Henry120:

The whole world are who and who, if I may ask? You south african scu*m?? However let's agree to disagree. My point has been made.

Henry120: You got me wrong, the SSS was formed after Gen. Murtala mohammed( former head of state) was killed in 5th of june 1986 by gen olusegun obasanjo as military head. The tactical unit of the SSS as we see it today was formed a couple of years ago and no where did I mention 3years. The SSS was primarily ONLY an intelligence agency.

Nigeria has the following agencies

SSS = state security service / department of state services(DSS)
DMI = directorate of military intelligence
NIA = national intelligence agency
DIA = defence intelligence agency
Police intelligence.

souldust: sss was formed in 1976 not '86.

snydergp:

I know I just can't get over the fact that these guys claim to be the best yet the results are totally not even on par with the top 20 yet they make patriotic assessments claiming things the hole world knows are not even true.

souldust: sss was formed in 1976 not '86.

souldust: sss was formed in 1976 not '86.

sheyie2007:
Nobody is claiming to be the best, the fact is, we're proud of their success in Nigeria, and Africa as a whole . even if were rated the best, does it hurt your spine so much that we're progressing?

souldust: @snyder. I saw somewhere were you said SA is the only net exporter of food on the continent. But thats a lie!

I have just sat to think about it and have come to realise that Nigeria is also a net exporter of food. Agriculture makes up about 40 percent of our GDP. Infact most food we consume in Nigeria are produced here. We are the world largest producer of all variety of yam and cassava. We dont import mango, cashew, orange, beans, maize, banana, plantain, mellon, beniseed, millet, guinea corn, sweet potatoes and many more! Infact, the major food we import is rice and some other things. So it is grossly wrong to say that Nigeria cannot feed itself as rice is not the only food in the world. Rice is not the most consumed food in Nigeria; cassava is by FAR.