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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 12:51pm On Aug 07, 2013 |
blackchris:Should I get General Solly Shoke statement about the battle for you?,Show me any info stating 400 or 600 were killed by the bats. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ZeusAyo: 12:55pm On Aug 07, 2013 |
Can someone tell me where this fool is coming from abi you lost ni? Who is talking about automobiles here now ass hole..... This is a M I L I T A R Y Thread so its eida u stick U̶̲̥̅̊я̩̥̊ stinky butt where it belongs or post relevant tinz that concerns what is being discoursed here ..[quote .. __̅_̅̅_̅̅̅Ω̴̩̩̩̥kA̶̲̥̅̊Ɣ? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ZeusAyo: 12:59pm On Aug 07, 2013 |
The fool iz at it again......alwayz talking off point..........yuck!!!! U Я disgusting AwodwaGyanOniwe: All4Naija |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ZeusAyo: 1:13pm On Aug 07, 2013 |
@awodwagyanoniwe. Ç A lemur calling someone A monkey......nd last time I checked, monkeys where smarter..... Well mayb it is U̶̲̥̅̊я̩̥̊ fada dat wld convert me to islam.......Fooool!!!!! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 2:16pm On Aug 07, 2013 |
agaugust:I have proven to you that the G5,G6,T5 and G7 can take out your anti craft system on the ground,from distances ranging from 30km to 70km. Now prove to me how your armed forces,can destroy such systems with your "limited air capabilities". |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 2:59pm On Aug 07, 2013 |
Zeus_Ayo: @awodwagyanoniwe. Ç A lemur calling someone A monkey......nd last time I checked, monkeys where smarter..... Well mayb it is U̶̲̥̅̊я̩̥̊ fada dat wld convert me to islam.......Fooool!!!!!At least 35 people have been killed in two separate gun battles between Nigerian security forces and Islamist sect Boko Haram in northeast Borno state, the army said on Monday. Boko Haram, which wants to impose sharia law in Nigeria's north, and other spin-off Islamist groups have become the biggest threat to stability in Africa's top oil exporter. In mid-May, President Goodluck Jonathan declared a state of emergency and launched an offensive against the group in its stronghold in the northeast. The insurgency was initially weakened but remains active and is stretching the army. Boko Haram gunmen on Sunday attacked a police base in Bama, a town close to the Cameroon border that has been frequently hit by violence in recent months. "Troops have successfully repelled Boko Haram terrorist attacks on a police base in Bama ... on 4 August," said military spokesman Sagir Musa. Musa said one policeman and 17 members of Boko Haram were killed during the fighting, while two soldiers were injured. He said four trucks, three motorbikes, dozens of explosive devices, three rocket-propelled grenades, 10 AK-47 rifles and over 100 rounds of ammunition were recovered from the Islamists. Boko Haram members also attacked a military base in the town of Malam Fatori, triggering a gun battle that left two soldiers and 15 of its members dead, Musa said. Nigerian police and military often play down their losses and those of civilians, security sources say. Boko Haram launched its insurgency in 2009 and has become increasingly sophisticated, learning bomb-making techniques from al Qaeda-linked militants in the Sahara to the north of Nigeria. Civilian vigilantes have sprung up to help Nigerian forces identify and arrest Boko Haram members but there are concerns among some northeast residents and security experts that the spread of vigilantes could further break down law and order. Five people died in clashes on Sunday between two such vigilante groups over control of the town of Biu in Borno state, witness Suleiman Barka told Reuters by phone. Nigeria began last week withdrawing some of its 1,200 troops from Mali to support security operations at home. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 3:30pm On Aug 07, 2013 |
@Agaugust- I see you are confidently making uniformed assertions that South Africa has never produced any manned war plane. The whole world know that Atlas Cheetah was produced in South Africa and not in France even though it bears resemblance of Mirage fighter jet. Tell me did Atlas Cheetah fall from heaven? The answer is a big NO. Atlas Cheetah is proudly South African product and was developed from scratch on South African soil. Who tells China that their products does not belong to them, because the world know that China survive by copying products from other countries. China has even stole many of South Africas weapons and design them as their own where they have even tried to copy Rooivalk. The AHLAC is another SA made recce and war plane developed in South Africa, irrespective of who assisted where. Nigeria has never even tried anything nor even to copy design of any plane. With respect to the G5 and G6 Artillery guns those are designed to hit targets at long ranges not to hit your cassava farms. Those Guns are intended to destroy your military establishment by the simple use of coordinates on the map and those guns are very accurate at the normal weather, with the gun is set at the right coordinates, it will take out the target by more than 80% chances. Moreover the G8 are meant to scatter your troops in disarray until our infantry launches offensive to finish off the job from army that is already disorganised. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 4:00pm On Aug 07, 2013 |
Msauza: @Agaugust- I see you are confidently making uniformed assertions that South Africa has never produced any manned war plane. The whole world know that Atlas Cheetah was produced in South Africa and not in France even though it bears resemblance of Mirage fighter jet. Tell me did Atlas Cheetah fall from heaven? The answer is a big NO. Atlas Cheetah is proudly South African product and was developed from scratch on South African soil. Who tells China that their products does not belong to them, because the world know that China survive by copying products from other countries. China has even stole many of South Africas weapons and design them as their own where they have even tried to copy Rooivalk. Cheetah was built from the Mirage airframe. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 4:10pm On Aug 07, 2013 |
For the fake researcher that knows nothing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R5y5EmCapE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoW1bCHB8-o |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 4:24pm On Aug 07, 2013 |
agaugust: http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/31/world/africa/south-africa-military-crashSouth African Rangers are armed with the FN FAL rifle sir. And are receiving advice from a former SANDF General who commanded the 32 battalion. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 4:29pm On Aug 07, 2013 |
agaugust:the Decisive Battle On 2 October the South African Recces reported that 47 Brigade had managed to construct a wooden road across the marshes which were blocking their retreat to the Lomba River. Trucks, missile carriers, armoured cars and tanks were busy assembling at the treeline, preparing to make an orderly retreat across the road. The Recces watched from their vantage points in nearby trees and called in artillery fire on Fapla while the SADF combat groups worked furiously to get ready and into position. The first Fapla vehicles to try to cross were Soviet Sam-9s. One crossed to safety but the Recces guided artillery fire onto the second as it tried to cross, destroying it and effectively blocking the bridge. The Fapla troops sent a T-55 tank to try and move it out of the way, but without success. Every time Fapla tried to make a move the Recces would call in highly accurate artillery salvoes. For 48 hours without sleep or rest the Recces stood guard over Fapla's escape route, calling in artillery fire at the slightest movement, until at last they heard the distant rumble that announced the arrival of the armoured cars of 61 Mechanised Battalion. The Ratels of 61 Mech had a variety of armaments, from infantry carriers with 20mm guns to the tank-busting 90mm gun. Unita troops had by now positioned themselves to the south-east of 47 Brigade in case they tried to break away in that direction. Fapla artillery began to bombard the approaching Ratels and Migs flew overhead to lend support and cover 47 Brigade's escape. The Ratels went in to attack. Fapla, accustomed to seeing Unita beat a hasty retreat whenever their tanks appeared, tried the same tactic and sent their tanks towards the SADF positions. To their dismay the South Africans' reaction was the exact opposite - they attacked. The Ratels raced for the tanks, surrounding them and dodging back and forth until they could get behind them and shoot at the comparatively vulnerable rear ends of the tanks. Major Laurence Maree, second-in-command of 61 Mech, later told the British journalist and author, Fred Bridgland: "I can't tell you how much courage it takes in a Ratel driver and gunner when a tank is charging towards them to summon up the will to stop still for long enough to stabilise their firing platform and get their round off. [Unlike a T54/55 tank, which has built-in stabilisers and can fire on the move, a Ratel, like other armoured cars, can only fire from a static position]. Of course, as soon as they'd fired, off they sprinted like Turbo-charged hares. One of our guys died that afternoon facing down a T-55 in his Ratel. A 100mm shell from the tank skipped up from the sandy ground and went right through the turret. The Ratel commander, Lieutenant Hind, was terribly wounded and he died later. We had two others very seriously wounded that day, and another three with light wounds. The medics just pulled the shrapnel out of those who were slightly hurt, cleaned up the wounds, and they went straight back into combat." (1) The Fapla troops, although outgunning the South Africans and outnumbering them 4 to 1, began to lose their nerve and one of the battalions suddenly made a break towards the river. They streamed across the open grassland towards the river in an undisciplined mob and the South Africans brought down MRL fire and high- explosive mortar shells on them. A second battalion also broke and ran for the river, with the Ratels chasing them. Approximately 100 vehicles were now jostling to try and reach the bridge by way of the wooden road. Recces directed artillery fire from the G-5s onto them, causing havoc. The area was now a wasteland of shattered trees and burnt grass from the shells and shrapnel from both sides. Migs piloted by Cubans flew some 60 sorties that day, dropping bombs and trying to strafe the South African positions, but they were wildly inaccurate and had little effect. Fapla tanks made an effort to recover some of the abandoned vehicles, but were themselves destroyed by the pinpoint accuracy of the G-5 artillery fire. When the firing finally stopped at the end of the day over 600 Fapla soldiers lay dead on that stretch of open ground and 127 Fapla vehicles stood destroyed or abandoned near the river. On the morning of 4 October the South Africans were able to survey the remnants on the battlefield. Recovery teams were sent in to salvage whatever was still usable and the SADF generals were delighted to hear that their troops were able to salvage intact one of the Sam-8 missile systems, complete with missiles, radar and logistics vehicles, the first example of this highly- effective Soviet weapon ever to be captured by a western country. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 5:19pm On Aug 07, 2013 |
saengine: Wrong, not all Cheetahs were built from Dassault Mirage airframe and I quote: Sixteen of the SAAF's 27 Mirage IIIDZ/D2Z aircraft were converted to Cheetah D standard, 16 of its Mirage IIIEZ aircraft were converted to Cheetah E standard, but no South African Mirage airframes were used for the 38 Cheetah Cs. That excerpt above was quoted from wikipedia. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:29pm On Aug 07, 2013 |
Fighter Pilot: you quoted from wikipedia ? an invisible weblink ? how do we verify your Mirage Jet/Cheetah jet claim ? 33% south african brain |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 6:34pm On Aug 07, 2013 |
agaugust: The idiöt of Naai-raland strikes again. You claim to be a researcher but you don't know that all you need to do is paste the quoted text that you want to verify onto google? You're useless. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 6:43pm On Aug 07, 2013 |
agaugust:the Decisive Battle On 2 October the South African Recces reported that 47 Brigade had managed to construct a wooden road across the marshes which were blocking their retreat to the Lomba River. Trucks, missile carriers, armoured cars and tanks were busy assembling at the treeline, preparing to make an orderly retreat across the road. The Recces watched from their vantage points in nearby trees and called in artillery fire on Fapla while the SADF combat groups worked furiously to get ready and into position. The first Fapla vehicles to try to cross were Soviet Sam-9s. One crossed to safety but the Recces guided artillery fire onto the second as it tried to cross, destroying it and effectively blocking the bridge. The Fapla troops sent a T-55 tank to try and move it out of the way, but without success. Every time Fapla tried to make a move the Recces would call in highly accurate artillery salvoes. For 48 hours without sleep or rest the Recces stood guard over Fapla's escape route, calling in artillery fire at the slightest movement, until at last they heard the distant rumble that announced the arrival of the armoured cars of 61 Mechanised Battalion. The Ratels of 61 Mech had a variety of armaments, from infantry carriers with 20mm guns to the tank-busting 90mm gun. Unita troops had by now positioned themselves to the south-east of 47 Brigade in case they tried to break away in that direction. Fapla artillery began to bombard the approaching Ratels and Migs flew overhead to lend support and cover 47 Brigade's escape. The Ratels went in to attack. Fapla, accustomed to seeing Unita beat a hasty retreat whenever their tanks appeared, tried the same tactic and sent their tanks towards the SADF positions. To their dismay the South Africans' reaction was the exact opposite - they attacked. The Ratels raced for the tanks, surrounding them and dodging back and forth until they could get behind them and shoot at the comparatively vulnerable rear ends of the tanks. Major Laurence Maree, second-in-command of 61 Mech, later told the British journalist and author, Fred Bridgland: "I can't tell you how much courage it takes in a Ratel driver and gunner when a tank is charging towards them to summon up the will to stop still for long enough to stabilise their firing platform and get their round off. [Unlike a T54/55 tank, which has built-in stabilisers and can fire on the move, a Ratel, like other armoured cars, can only fire from a static position]. Of course, as soon as they'd fired, off they sprinted like Turbo- charged hares. One of our guys died that afternoon facing down a T-55 in his Ratel. A 100mm shell from the tank skipped up from the sandy ground and went right through the turret. The Ratel commander, Lieutenant Hind, was terribly wounded and he died later. We had two others very seriously wounded that day, and another three with light wounds. The medics just pulled the shrapnel out of those who were slightly hurt, cleaned up the wounds, and they went straight back into combat." (1) The Fapla troops, although outgunning the South Africans and outnumbering them 4 to 1, began to lose their nerve and one of the battalions suddenly made a break towards the river. They streamed across the open grassland towards the river in an undisciplined mob and the South Africans brought down MRL fire and high- explosive mortar shells on them. A second battalion also broke and ran for the river, with the Ratels chasing them. Approximately 100 vehicles were now jostling to try and reach the bridge by way of the wooden road. Recces directed artillery fire from the G-5s onto them, causing havoc. The area was now a wasteland of shattered trees and burnt grass from the shells and shrapnel from both sides. Migs piloted by Cubans flew some 60 sorties that day, dropping bombs and trying to strafe the South African positions, but they were wildly inaccurate and had little effect. Fapla tanks made an effort to recover some of the abandoned vehicles, but were themselves destroyed by the pinpoint accuracy of the G-5 artillery fire. When the firing finally stopped at the end of the day over 600 Fapla soldiers lay dead on that stretch of open ground and 127 Fapla vehicles stood destroyed or abandoned near the river. On the morning of 4 October the South Africans were able to survey the remnants on the battlefield. Recovery teams were sent in to salvage whatever was still usable and the SADF generals were delighted to hear that their troops were able to salvage intact one of the Sam-8 missile systems, complete with missiles, radar and logistics vehicles, the first example of this highly- effective Soviet weapon ever to be captured by a western country. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 6:48pm On Aug 07, 2013 |
agaugust:Let's talk about how South Africa can destroy or crush,the entire Nigerian army with 2 batteries of the G5+ 2 batteries of the G6 howitzers. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 6:50pm On Aug 07, 2013 |
agaugust:South Africa is the first African country to fly a manned war plane. Did you know "village Ni-gay-rian boy"? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:51pm On Aug 07, 2013 |
CraigB: For the fake researcher that knows nothing: we have argued this joke called a south african warplane with @snydergp early this year and he had to s.hut his mouth foolish boy, is that a jet fighter ? a propeller toy reconnaissance aircraft with a few weapons for attacking Rhino poachers the plastic south african 'warplane' has ancient world war II style propeller engine fan, not a jet engine even seleka will shoot it down with anti-aircraft guns or shoulder held MANPAD weapon the toy warplane has speed of a snail or tortoise, 504km/hr, which modern army is this toy going to attack in year 2013 ? seems only one or two units of this toy exist, all we see here are 3D animated cartoon images of it the thing is more of a drone with a pilot in it, ready to d.ie from enemy anti-aircraft guns in his plastic coffin/casket 'warplane' nigerian F-7 jet flying at 1,500km/hr vs south african toy aircraft flying at 500km/hr , what a comedy show nigeria built something like that almost 30 years ago, called air beetle http://malaysiaflyingherald./2013/01/23/made-in-nigeria-trainer-and-uav/ details of south african plastic toy 'warplane' below...even nigerian alpha jets will use this south african plastic box for shooting practice QUOTE : " The Ahrlac is intended to compete with unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) in the marketplace; Paramount claims that the aircraft will be cheaper to acquire and operate than UAVs on account of it not requiring the expensive subsystems required for remote control of unmanned aircraft. It is optimised for the intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance (ISTAR) and counter-insurgency missions; coastal patrol, anti-smuggling and disaster relief capabilities are also projected for the type" SOURCE : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_High_Performance_Reconnaissance_Light_Aircraft foolish little @CrazeB , go suck mama's b_reas_t milk before school reopens in september . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:51pm On Aug 07, 2013 |
so the Christian population will stop growing or what? how Cameroon who is actually a 70% Christian country(40%Catholic) will suddenly become 93% muslims? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:09pm On Aug 07, 2013 |
Mike..ZA: same way south africa used that same G6 howitzer to crush the entire Cuban army in Angolan bush war by rushing to the peace negotiation table to beg Cuba for settlement ? i feel like exiting this thread of fools |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:14pm On Aug 07, 2013 |
NaijaPikinGidi: Reading through all your ish its tragic you sitting idle in Hillbrow, my dear Naijapikingidi "all4naija" refugee who claimed on a other forum topic he would never sat foot on SA soil. Can you please tell me if your village in Kanu state received power or are your Aso Rock dwellers still seeking the light 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 7:16pm On Aug 07, 2013 |
agaugust: You know what I am such a busy buddy. I cannot do everything for you everytime as if you are a high school student, because sometimes is necessary to vibrate your brain cells by just using a google search icon. Spoon feeding is not a way, anyway wikipedia is your friend. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_Cheetah I hope you will find it user friendly and discover that Cheetah C was, infact the only model of Cheetahs that was not build from Mirage airframe. This is what we have been taught ever since we joined the Airforce. Does it hurt you to find out that actually Cheetah C is the only model that was not build from Mirage airframe. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 7:17pm On Aug 07, 2013 |
agaugust: Jealous eneducated Northerner. Are you now going to give us something better from Naai-geria? No? Thought so. It's safe to say you don't know what "reconnaissance" means, if you believe that plane is useless. Why don't you visit here http://www.aerosud.co.za/ and stop embarrassing your son! See what South Africa is about and who aerosud are. |
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