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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 10:48pm On Oct 01, 2013
NaijaPikinGidi: So sad that rather than protect public property the Kenyan Defence Force soldiers had field days looting the deserted Shops at the Westgate Mall. Not a good way to empathise with the victims of the attack!

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Kenya Mall Vendors Suspect Looting

Shops plundered during terrorist attack
By Charlotte Alter @charlottealter | Sept. 30, 2013

Read more: http://world.time.com/2013/09/30/kenya-mall-vendors-suspect-looting/

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Shopkeepers in Nairobi’s Westgate Mall returned to their stores Monday after the bloody four-day militant siege to find their inventories plundered and display cases smashed, but they’re not blaming the gunmen who killed dozens before finally being subdued. Instead, many vendors think it was the Kenyan Security Forces who looted their stores, the Associated Press reports.

Kenyan Security Forces cordoned off the mall as soon as the attack began on Sept. 21, and only security officials and government personnel were allowed in and out of the mall. Since the attack, alcohol has disappeared from restaurants, jewelry cases have been smashed, and cash registers were emptied.

This isn’t the first time poorly-paid Kenyan Security Forces have been accused of stealing from property they’re supposed to protect. There were also reports of looting during the major fire at Nairobi’s main airport in August.

Interior Minister Joseph Ole Lenku confirmed the thefts in a news conference on Sunday. “Those responsible for looting will be prosecuted,” Lenku said. But storekeepers will have to report their losses to the Kenyan Security Forces.

grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin no wonder the attackers got away grin grin.

from the look at the way the operation was conducted, it exposed a very major weakness of KDF capabilities in "urban warfare" which is a very critical skill in 21st century modern combat requirements (i trust our boys for that one grin)

with due respect to those who lost their lives and (stolen grin) properties, al-shaaab won this one undecided on their home soil for that matter.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 10:59pm On Oct 01, 2013
Arise O Compatriots!! Nigeria on my mind today. Enjoy this one!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZJfL8So4VI&feature=youtu.be

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:43am On Oct 02, 2013
NaijaPikinGidi: So sad that rather than protect public property the Kenyan Defence Force soldiers had field days looting the deserted Shops at the Westgate Mall. Not a good way to empathise with the victims of the attack!

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Kenya Mall Vendors Suspect Looting

Shops plundered during terrorist attack
By Charlotte Alter @charlottealter | Sept. 30, 2013

Read more: http://world.time.com/2013/09/30/kenya-mall-vendors-suspect-looting/

[img]http://timeglobalspin.files./2013/09/wp2013-09-24t093407z_1415271875_gm1e99o1.jpg?w=360&h=240&crop=1[/img]

Shopkeepers in Nairobi’s Westgate Mall returned to their stores Monday after the bloody four-day militant siege to find their inventories plundered and display cases smashed, but they’re not blaming the gunmen who killed dozens before finally being subdued. Instead, many vendors think it was the Kenyan Security Forces who looted their stores, the Associated Press reports.

Kenyan Security Forces cordoned off the mall as soon as the attack began on Sept. 21, and only security officials and government personnel were allowed in and out of the mall. Since the attack, alcohol has disappeared from restaurants, jewelry cases have been smashed, and cash registers were emptied.

This isn’t the first time poorly-paid Kenyan Security Forces have been accused of stealing from property they’re supposed to protect. There were also reports of looting during the major fire at Nairobi’s main airport in August.

Interior Minister Joseph Ole Lenku confirmed the thefts in a news conference on Sunday. “Those responsible for looting will be prosecuted,” Lenku said. But storekeepers will have to report their losses to the Kenyan Security Forces.

typical african problem...na waa oh !

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Dibiachukwu: 10:26am On Oct 02, 2013
NaijaPikinGidi: Arise O Compatriots!! Nigeria on my mind today. Enjoy this one!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZJfL8So4VI&feature=youtu.be
LOL. PEOPLE DELUDING THEMSELVES cheesy
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 1:15pm On Oct 02, 2013
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=32023:indian-military-orders-saab-grintek-defence-self-protection-systems&catid=48:defence-technology&Itemid=109

Saab Grintek Defence (SGD) has been awarded contracts worth $33 million for the supply of its Integrated Defensive Aids Suite (IDAS), which will be used on the Dhruv advanced light helicopter.

The two orders were received from the Dhruv’s manufacturer, Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), which is producing helicopters for the Indian Army and Navy. They follow initial serial production orders received in 2008.

Deliveries are scheduled to commence in 2014. Development and production of the IDAS system will take place at SGD in Centurion.

“With these orders we continue to build on our very successful partnership with HAL. The fact that HAL and the Armed Forces have continued to show faith in the IDAS system is a testimony of the effectiveness and reliability of the solution,” said Lars-Olof Lindgren, Head of Market Area Saab India.

“Saab has an unbeaten capability in the field of electronic warfare and self-protection. The IDAS system is one of our flagship products sold to customers around the world,” said Micael Johansson, Senior Vice President and Head of Saab’s business area Electronic Defence Systems.

Designed from the outset as a fully integrated modular system, IDAS combines radar, laser, UV missile approach warning and countermeasures dispensing functions in a single system controller. Its modular system architecture allows IDAS to be configured for any one or any combination of the three sensor types.

Saab says IDAS has been chosen for many different airborne platforms, including the Saab 2000, Agusta-Westland A109, Super Lynx 300, Boeing CH-47 Chinook, Denel Rooivalk and Oryx, Eurocopter Cougar, Puma & Super Puma, NH Industries NH90, C-130 and L100 Hercules and Sukhoi Su-30MKM.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 1:16pm On Oct 02, 2013
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=32028:exercise-african-winds-aims-to-better-nigerian-maritime-protection-capability&catid=108:maritime-security&Itemid=233

Starting on Thursday, the Nigerian Navy will be hosting the combined Exercise African Winds, a programme of the Africa Partnership Station (APS) security co-operation programme of US Naval Forces Africa (NAVAF).

Specific aspects of training will take place in Lagos, Calabar and Oron until October 24, with elements of Dutch, US, United Kingdom and Spanish Marines and Special Forces on the Royal Netherlands Navy amphibious support ship, HMNLS Potterdam.

Company level amphibious raids, marine counter terrorism, sea mine identification and disposal, oil rig protection, riverine operations and insertion and extraction are some of the tasks that will be executed over the 21-day exercise.

In a statement, the Nigerian Navy said African Winds’ objective was to improve the capacity of the Nigerian armed forces to plan and execute joint operations in a maritime environment.

According to US Africa Command (Africom), the focus of NAVAF’s APS is to build maritime safety and security by increasing maritime awareness, response capabilities and infrastructure.

Through APS, Africom and NAVAF work with international partners, governments and non-government organisations (NGOs) to improve African partner nations’ self-sustaining capability to effectively maintain maritime security within own inland waterways, territorial waters and exclusive economic zones.

APS uses the four pillars of developing maritime domain awareness, building maritime professionals, establishing maritime infrastructure and developing response capabilities.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 1:16pm On Oct 02, 2013
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=32061:indian-arms-deal-probe-exonerates-denel&catid=7:Industry&Itemid=116

India's Central Bureau of Investigations (CBI) has closed its eight-year long corruption probe into South African arms manufacturer Denel following allegations that it paid kickbacks to Vara Associates, a company based in the Isle of Man, to help secure five deals between July 1999 and April 2005, to supply the Indian Army with 1 000 anti-material rifles and over 300 000 rounds of ammunition.

Indian defence procurement rules and the country's Prevention of Corruption Act expressly forbid original equipment manufacturers who bid for contracts with the army from hiring any middlemen or intermediaries to influence or 'swing' the adjudication of the contracting process.

According to reports from the Indian capital New Delhi, the CBI dropped the case on Monday after eight of years of trans-national investigations in South Africa, the Isle of Man, Switzerland and the UK failed to prove the allegations levelled against Denel.

The probe started in June 2005, two months after the Indian government stopped all dealings with Denel amid allegations that the South African company had paid 'commission' to the value of 12.75 per cent of the total worth of the arms deals secured with the Indian Army to Vara Associates, based in the tax-haven Isle of Man, to 'swing' the five contracts in its favour.

The contracts involved the supply of 700 NTW-20 anti-material rifles (bunker-busting and light armour penetrating), knocked-down kits for another 300 rifles of the same make and 398 000 rounds of ammunition. According the CBI case opened in June 2005, allegations against Denel were that it had made the pay-offs to Vara Associates, accused by investigators of acting as an intermediary, disguised as technical assistance and consultancy fees.

In the course of its eight-year probe, the CBI sent requests for information to judicial and investigative authorities in the UK, South Africa, the Isle of Man and Switzerland which all reported that they could not find any evidence to support the charges against Denel.

Several employees of Vara Associates and the Indian Ministry of Defence were being probed alongside Denel on allegations of conniving with Vara Associates to swing the five contracts in question in favour of the South African company.

After the Denel deal fell through, India’s Ordnance Factory Tiruchirappalli began manufacturing the locally developed Vidhwansak multi-calibre anti-materiel rifle, which bears many similarities to the NTW-20. Available in 14.5 mm, 12.7 mm and 20 mm calibres, it has an effective range of approximately 2 000 metres.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 1:17pm On Oct 02, 2013
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=32056:south-africa-only-a-limited-contributor-to-african-peacekeeping--international-peace-institute&catid=55:SANDF&Itemid=108

South Africa’s potential as a contributor to international peacekeeping is “limited” because defence spending has not kept pace with the growth in international deployments, the International Peace Institute (IPI) maintains in its latest overview “Providing for Peacekeeping”.

“Pretoria’s deployment of about 2 500 to 3 000 personnel on peacekeeping duties at any given time appears to be a ceiling,” the Institute’s dedicated peacekeeping website reports.

“While South Africa could deploy more personnel under special circumstances this could likely not be sustained for more than a year at a time.

“The most recent deployment of additional personnel to the Forward Intervention Brigade (FIB) in the eastern DRC as part of MONUSCO will likely stretch South Africa’s peacekeeping capability to its limits. This is because of the limited capacity of the SA National Defence Force (SANDF) to deploy in multiple peacekeeping operations or theatres on the African continent simultaneously,” the independent, international, not-for-profit think tank headquartered in New York said.

As far as barriers to contributing to continental peacekeeping are concerned, the Institute notes South Africa has not always been able to recover costs associated with its deployments. It gives the DRC, pre FIB deployment, as an example saying “Pretoria was unable to obtain full reimbursement for its equipment that did not consistently meet UN standards”.

On institutional and structural constraints the IPI notes that since the mid-1990s the SANDF has had to live with “consistent budget cuts”. This has resulted in a reduction in personnel and the force’s ability to maintain its operational capability.

“Additionally, recent defence acquisitions have resulted in a mismatch between defence funding and the purchase of costly equipment vis-à-vis what was required or demanded from the SANDF in relation to its international deployments. To rectify this in 2012 South Africa considered giving greater priority to developing and maintaining a more balanced set of capabilities, which would need to be appropriate, affordable and adequately balanced with respect to the needs of the SANDF. South Africa’s ability to properly equip and support personnel deployed abroad for sustained periods of time will likely remain a major obstacle impeding further deployments in the near future. In particular, the country is in need of air lift capabilities to deploy and sustain its personnel to peacekeeping theatres across the continent.”

On peacekeeping challenges for South Africa, the IPI points out the “mismatch” between the country’s ambitions and the SANDF’s capabilities undermines Pretoria’s ability to undertake and sustain effective deployments.

“South Africa’s political readiness to deploy its forces into complex operating environments, such as the DRC or CAR should align more closely with resourcing considerations for the SANDF,” the IPI warns.

“This will ensure the SANDF has the operational capability to act on political decisions taken by the country’s leaders.”

The South African National Defence Force has approximately 2 000 soldiers deployed on peacekeeping and peace building initiatives, in the Democratic Republic of the Congo and Sudan.

The SANDF has been involved in more than 15 peace support operations, involving the deployment of around 2 500 military personnel. Deployment areas for these operations have included the DRC, Burundi, Sudan, Côte d’Ivore, Liberia, Nepal, CAR, the Comoros, Mozambique and Lesotho.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 1:20pm On Oct 02, 2013
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=32036:traders-say-kenyan-forces-looted-mall-during-siege&catid=52:Human%20Security&Itemid=114

Store owners in the upmarket Nairobi shopping mall where 67 people were killed this month in Kenya's bloodiest militant attack in years said on Monday soldiers sent in to end the four-day siege looted electronics, jewelry and cash tills.

The government said it took such allegations seriously but had also acted to protect stock in the Westgate center, where prosperous Kenyans and foreigners who frequented the complex could buy iPads, Swiss watches and jewel-encrusted necklaces.

The interior minister said only three shops had reported looting and others had said their stock was untouched.

But in the aftermath of the massacre, store owners and many Kenyans are angry that goods appeared to have been looted even when the troops tasked with hunting down the 15 or so heavily armed gunmen had locked down the building.

"The whole place has been done over," said Tariq Harunani, an optician allowed into the mall late on Sunday, adding dozens of pairs of sunglasses and frames were stolen from his store.

"The watch counters have been cleared, the jewelry shop is empty, there's no jewelry on the necklace stands," he said.

His brother Yasser said: "We know who's done it but what can we do? They ransacked it. The military secured the place and in that time the place is emptied.

"This is Kenya. Let's just face it, what's lost is lost."

The raid has shocked the nation and the world for the brazen way the attackers stormed in spraying people with bullets and throwing grenades, confirming fears in the region and the West that Somalia remains a training ground for militant Islam.

Parliamentarians, visiting the mall area on Monday, said they would determine whether security chiefs had failed to act on intelligence of an impending attack. They are expected to question top officers and others this week.

Traders say they cannot blame members of the public who fled in terror on the day of the attack on September 21 or trickled out from hiding places on subsequent days for the emptied stores, some captured in photos shared with journalists.

Harunani, whose account of ransacked stores was echoed by three others, said he had been hit by a stomach-churning stench of rotting bodies believed to be buried under rubble in the mall. Bullet holes pock-marked the smoke-damaged walls and parts of the ground floor were flooded, he said.

PROSECUTING THE GUILTY

Another trader who sold stationery in Westgate, which was packed on the Saturday lunchtime when the attackers charged in, said dozens of bullet casings lay around a mat on the first floor.

"All the shop fronts have been shot up," the store owner said, declining to give his name. "We've lost laptops and cash."

Outside the mall Harunani and others lined up to be allowed back into the building on Monday to salvage what remained, some with trucks to carry out wares, others with cardboard boxes.

One grim-faced sandwich vendor wheeled out blood-stained plastic tables on a trolley.

"We wish to affirm that government takes very seriously allegations of looting and that those found to have engaged in looting will be prosecuted," Interior Minister Ole Lenku said.

He said only three businesses had reported their stores had suffered such theft, while others said goods on their premises were intact. He did not address who might have been responsible and urged anyone with information on looting to tell the police.

'DRASTIC' RECOMMENDATIONS

The attack on the mall was the deadliest single attack on Kenyan soil since al Qaeda's east Africa cell bombed the U.S. Embassy in Nairobi in 1998, killing more than 200 people. Lawmakers investigating the attack said on Monday intelligence bosses had received warning of an impending strike.

Asman Kamama, who chairs parliament's National Security and Administration Committee said their investigation would determine whether security chiefs had "slept on their jobs".

"We want to know who didn't do what," Kamama told reporters.

Ndung'u Gethenji, chairman of the Defence and Foreign Relations Committee, said their report could include "drastic" recommendations including a "re-think of Kenya's hospitality in supporting refugee camps within (its) borders."

Kenya hosts many refugees from the region, including the world's largest refugee camp, Dadaab, in eastern Kenya, which is home to more than 500,000 mostly Somali refugees who have fled two decades of violence across the nearby porous border.

Kenya's government has been pressuring the Somali government and aid agencies to repatriate the refugees.

The investigation will publish its findings within a month, lawmakers said.

Al Shabaab, which claimed responsibility for the attack, on Monday kept up its taunts aimed at the Nairobi government, which it said had failed to uncover the attackers' identities.

"The futility of the investigation will soon be laid bare for the world to see as they try to piece together this jigsaw puzzle," the militants said on Twitter.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 3:53pm On Oct 02, 2013
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:03pm On Oct 02, 2013
The looting of the stores by security forces is very very embarrassing. Looting by civilians though not commendable is condoneable. It happens in every disaster area, the US, UK, mexico etc etc. The only country were looting did not take place after a natural disaster is japan. However, for looting to have been carried out in such an open, brazen manner in the aftermath of a terrible hostage situation by security forces is unfortunate.


They took the opportunity to "grab and snatch" gringringringringrin; no dullingDgringrin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 4:05pm On Oct 02, 2013
Henry120: The looting of the stores by security forces is very very embarrassing. Looting by civilians though not commendable is condoneable. It happens in every disaster area, the US, UK, mexico etc etc. The only country were looting did not take place after a natural disaster is japan. However, for looting to have been carried out in such an open, brazen manner in the aftermath of a terrible hostage situation by security forces is unfortunate.


They took the opportunity to "grab and snatch" gringringringringrin; no dullingDgringrin

this line made me laugh

"This is Kenya. Let's just face it, what's lost is lost."
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 4:53pm On Oct 02, 2013
andrewza:

this line made me laugh

"This is Kenya. Let's just face it, what's lost is lost."


That also made me smile along with

"His brother Yasser said: "We know who's done it but what can we do? They ransacked it. The military secured the place and in that time the place is emptied."

I suppose it also meant securing the goods cheesy

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:09pm On Oct 02, 2013
andrewza:

this line made me laugh

"This is Kenya. Let's just face it, what's lost is lost."


Even though the whole episode seems funny, it's nothing to laugh at all.



Secondly, let's call a spade a spade. The kenyans flunked the rescue mission badly. They executed their mission badly. I mean, have you seen the collapsed part of the westgate mall? It looks like it was hit by nuclear warhead. There is little or no difference between the westgate mall mission and the algerian attack on the refinery. The only difference been the algerians attacked guns blazing with an MI-35p, while in the case of kenya, troops were using RPG's in a confined space. I mean, who uses RPG in a confined space?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 5:42pm On Oct 02, 2013
o they real did a bad job, blew up the mall, looted the place and ignored israeli intelligence of there being a threat.

Use the RPG in the mall is not my issue, but endagering the lives of civilians with it is.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 6:19pm On Oct 02, 2013
Dibiachukwu:
LOL. PEOPLE DELUDING THEMSELVES cheesy

I'm sure you are the disillusioned one! I have my right to be a happy Nigerian. State your own right without impinging on mine. Cheers! cool cool
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by hunter21(m): 7:24pm On Oct 02, 2013
kenya should have just swallowed pride and allow isreali matkhal or sas to do the job.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:12pm On Oct 02, 2013
andrewza: o they real did a bad job, blew up the mall, looted the place and ignored israeli intelligence of there being a threat.

Use the RPG in the mall is not my issue, but endagering the lives of civilians with it is.

So many things went wrong. The mission was badly handled from the word go. I do not think using an RPG in the mall was well thought out. It was an incredibly bad decision to take.

Some reports are saying 67 people are still missing/ un accounted for.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:13pm On Oct 02, 2013
hunter2,1:
kenya should have just swallowed pride and allow isreali matkhal or sas to do the job.

Nigerian military has offered or is being requested to help Kenya...thats preparing against a next time.

South africa did not even offer any military help to Kenya...its closer to its region.

South Africa is running away from anything that could attract terrorists retaliation in their own 'safe' country.

Nigeria and Algeria are the only African powers with experience to help Kenya from now on.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 12:58am On Oct 03, 2013
@augustus no country should impose its own rules unless invited. Regarding Kenya they should have asked for assistance and definetly South Africa would have positively responded but as a pride many African countries shun any African assistance especially South African. The South African Special Task Force would have done a perfect job in support of the Kenyan security forces but the pride forced the Kenyan to asked for Israelis support which is not wrong at all.

Nigerian should buying South African military hardware buy not with their pride.....Africans would never be seen supporting other Africans especially when matters of pride is concern....Hence Africans would rather be seen with other nationalities than blacks. The time Africans like South Africa its only when they failed to obtain a visa to travel oversees and then use South Africa as an alternative.

Hence Africans think South Africa is a dumping ground for the unemployed and illiterate Africans who believes they are better than South Africans and yet survive on South African hospitality. AFRICANS SUFFER FROM MASSIVE INFERIORITY COMPLEX BUT ONLY REALISE THAT THEY ARE BETTER WHEN IN SOUTH AFRICA AGAINST SOUTH AFRICANS.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 1:01am On Oct 03, 2013
Henry120: I mean, who uses RPG in a confined space?

KDF grin grin grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 1:04am On Oct 03, 2013
Dibiachukwu:
LOL. PEOPLE DELUDING THEMSELVES cheesy

i think you are the one that's deluded. get over it son... even ojukwu did before he died.

in the mean time, you can move to mali until your Biafra fantacy becomes reality since you don't want to be a Nigerian. abi na by force angry

and before you start. i am a confirm ibo boy and i think you are still stuck in the 60s.. probably lost in time grin

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 1:22am On Oct 03, 2013
Thiza: @augustus no country should impose its own rules unless invited. Regarding Kenya they should have asked for assistance and definetly South Africa would have positively responded but as a pride many African countries shun any African assistance especially South African. The South African Special Task Force would have done a perfect job in support of the Kenyan security forces but the pride forced the Kenyan to asked for Israelis support which is not wrong at all.

Nigerian should buying South African military hardware buy not with their pride.....Africans would never be seen supporting other Africans especially when matters of pride is concern....Hence Africans would rather be seen with other nationalities than blacks. The time Africans like South Africa its only when they failed to obtain a visa to travel oversees and then use South Africa as an alternative.

Hence Africans think South Africa is a dumping ground for the unemployed and illiterate Africans who believes they are better than South Africans and yet survive on South African hospitality. AFRICANS SUFFER FROM MASSIVE INFERIORITY COMPLEX BUT ONLY REALISE THAT THEY ARE BETTER WHEN IN SOUTH AFRICA AGAINST SOUTH AFRICANS.

whats this one saying

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Dibiachukwu: 3:12am On Oct 03, 2013
NaijaPikinGidi:

I'm sure you are the disillusioned one! I have my right to be a happy Nigerian. State your own right without impinging on mine. Cheers! cool cool
You are a Nigerian huh? Men grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Dibiachukwu: 3:16am On Oct 03, 2013
chris365:

i think you are the one that's deluded. get over it son... even ojukwu did before he died.

in the mean time, you can move to mali until your Biafra fantacy becomes reality since you don't want to be a Nigerian. abi na by force angry

and before you start. i am a confirm ibo boy and i think you are still stuck in the 60s.. probably lost in time grin

It is spelt Igbo. And No, their is nothing like Nigerian. I don't recognise it, a lot of us igbos, still do not recognise it. How long do you think you can continue keeping an unwilling mate? We have nothing in common with Nigeria. Move to where. I am an Igbo son, resident of alaigbo. Are you drunk? I think you should rather tell your government to allow alaigbo to go in peace. And forget about roughly a million igbo babies killed by Nigeria and their "world power" friends? God Forbid
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 7:27am On Oct 03, 2013
Dibiachukwu:
You are a Nigerian huh? Men grin

There's a huge temptation to engage you head-on, but I'm not gonna let a lost soul like you steal my time! SMH. grin grin grin

Anuohia di ka gi!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by kwametut: 8:22am On Oct 03, 2013
SECRET NATION AND THEIR UNDERCOUNT. 419masters cheesy grin grin grin

EXCLUSIVE: 40 soldiers killed, 65 missing in fresh Boko Haram ambush
Premium Times
Published: September 17,2013

The attack occurred less than two months after 20 soldiers were killed by militants in the same area.

At least 40 Nigerian soldiers were killed and 65 others went missing in a deadly ambush by suspected members of the extremist group, Boko Haram, in the sect’s stronghold in Borno state, multiple defence sources have told PREMIUM TIMES.

Army authorities are miffed by the incident, and have ordered an investigation into the suspected operational blunder that gave the militants such an upper hand. The commanding officer of the unit that carried out the operation has now been removed from his post, officials say.

The casualty, one of the heaviest for the military in its campaign against the militant group in Borno, Yobe and Adamawa states, occurred along the Baga –Maiduguri road on Friday, September 13, in what our sources said was a classic case operational and communication failure.

A detachment of soldiers under the 134 Battalion of the 12 Brigade under the Multi National Joint Task Force, MNJTF, stationed in Kangarwa village in Kukawa local government, had conducted a reconnaissance to gather intelligence around the area, during which they established the presence of previously unnoticed Boko Haram camps.

The soldiers returned to their base and filed a report recommending aerial bombardment of the area, preparatory for a ground operation by troops, our sources, who declined to be named for security concerns, said.

But that plan was cancelled at the final minutes by an unnamed top official without formal communication to the more than 100 troops that had already advanced on the area.

“Due to lack of communication, the troop ran into the terrorists without knowing that the aerial bombardment had been cancelled and they were caught unawares,” one of our sources said.

The soldiers were trapped in the ambush under heavy fire from the militants who had surrounded the area, leaving at least 40 soldiers killed. Some 65 others have remained missing, our sources said.

The insurgents confiscated a huge cache of weapons from the soldiers after the attack.

As with past failures that ended in bloodshed and heavy casualty against the military, authorities have struggled to place a lid on the incident.

When contacted, the spokesperson for the Defence Headquarters, Chris Olukolade, a Brigadier General, said he was attending a meeting and would prefer a text message.

He did not respond to the text message.

But a top security source confirmed the incident and said the army headquarters have ordered an investigation.

Other officials, who spoke to PREMIUM TIMES anonymously, said the Boko Haram assault was a reminder of the difficulties they face daily contending a dodgy but adept enemy that continues to take advantage of mistakes by military planners, to inflict heavy damage on army units.

The attack came less than two months after a similar miscalculation on August 4 which also resulted in a heavy casualty following a similar surprise attack by Boko Haram on a camp at Malam Fatori.
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 10:07am On Oct 03, 2013
saengine: And in other news Denel has started full production of the Badger IFV for the SANDF.
if needed they can kick some butt in prototype form. Like the Ratel ZT3 during the boarder war.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 10:14am On Oct 03, 2013
agaugust:



on Otomat anti-ship missile, Roland anti-aircraft missile, Type 90 anti-aircraft artillery, Palmaria field artillery, APR-40 rocket artillery...i have proved my point beyond doubt with sources.

i only answered you all through the weekend because i want to refresh all nairalanders/readers' memory on those weapons before i post my NAF vs SANDF navy war simulation of air to sea and sea to sea combat between nigeria and south africa this week.

i will just ignore your l.u.n.a.t.i.c posts of today and achieve my objective on this forum.

a wise man who continues to argue with a fool beyond limits...will also be deemed to be a fool .

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Nigerian systems can be jammed your commander in the field won't receive orders from Abuja or coordinate strikes with jets,South Africa did this before during the bush war. To be precise during the battle of Cassinga. Here's a quote below of SAAF Oryx helicopter fitted for that job.
"There is an electronic warfare (STAND-OFF
communications jamming/radar jamming)
version of the Oryx that is equipped with the
Grinaker Systems Technologies (GST) GSY
1501 jamming system, among others. The first
Oryx variant with a large log periodic antenna
on the starboard side was regarded as quite an
effective EW platform. This platform is capable
of disrupting key communications during
various stages of modern, air-, land-, and sea
battles. In addition it is used as an effective
training aid to the SANDF, to test their function
as an effective fighting force, despite any EW
methods employed against the SA Forces. A
further advantage is, EW equipment in use by
the SA Forces can be effectively evaluated and
calibrated under simulated battlefield
scenarios. One variant has its main cabin doors
replaced by dome shaped antennas."
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 10:18am On Oct 03, 2013
NaijaPikinGidi:

There's a huge temptation to engage you head-on, but I'm not gonna let a lost soul like you steal my time! SMH. grin grin grin

Anuohia di ka gi!
Your country goes to war. This guy will lead a breakaway state. The republic of Biafra. Nigeria can't go to any major full blown war. Your armed should be ranked below our Algerian brothers.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 10:21am On Oct 03, 2013
hunter2,1:
kenya should have just swallowed pride and allow isreali matkhal or sas to do the job.
The were Israelis in Kenya. I think the problem was "command and control",cause it looks like regular troops were rushed into the mall WITH RPGs.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:44am On Oct 03, 2013
Thiza: @augustus no country should impose its own rules unless invited. Regarding Kenya they should have asked for assistance and definetly South Africa would have positively responded but as a pride many African countries shun any African assistance especially South African. The South African Special Task Force would have done a perfect job in support of the Kenyan security forces but the pride forced the Kenyan to asked for Israelis support which is not wrong at all.

Nigerian should buying South African military hardware buy not with their pride.....Africans would never be seen supporting other Africans especially when matters of pride is concern....Hence Africans would rather be seen with other nationalities than blacks. The time Africans like South Africa its only when they failed to obtain a visa to travel oversees and then use South Africa as an alternative.

Hence Africans think South Africa is a dumping ground for the unemployed and illiterate Africans who believes they are better than South Africans and yet survive on South African hospitality. AFRICANS SUFFER FROM MASSIVE INFERIORITY COMPLEX BUT ONLY REALISE THAT THEY ARE BETTER WHEN IN SOUTH AFRICA AGAINST SOUTH AFRICANS.
i just have to agree with you on this.

I think you sound more educated and sensible when you dont copy and paste.

We buy boats from SA

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