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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:52am On Oct 03, 2013
@awon omo ina to wa ninu thread yi, e ko ija yin kuro ke lo si ibo mi. Abi nko n seyin ni? Abi e damo ni?

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 12:08pm On Oct 03, 2013
State-owned arms manufacturer Denel is flying high. It has co-produced the first Airbus A400M military transport plane. Denel Aerostructures contributed to the design and manufacturing of the plane, which was officially handed over to the French Air Force on Monday.

Denel Aerostructures is the only top-tier supplier of manufactured parts for the A400M outside Europe. In June, Airbus Military placed a third multimillion-rand contract with the company during the Paris Air Show in France, which was attended by Denel chairperson Zoli Kunene and group CEO Riaz Saloojee. The work package was for the manufacturing of the ribs, spars and swords, the inside structure of the giant airlifter’s distinctive tail section. At the time Kunene said the work package of about R200m was contracted to run over the entire life of the A400M programme. “It demonstrates Airbus Military’s confidence in Denel and South Africa’s design and manufacturing capabilities, coupled with our ability to deliver on time and within budget,” he said. Denel spokesperson Vuyelwa Qinga said under a renegotiated contract announced in September 2012, the South African manufacturer was also responsible for two other A400M work packages involving the design, engineering and fabrication of the wing-to-fuselage fairing and fuselage top shells. “The wing-to-fuselage fairing is the largest single aerostructure component ever produced in South Africa and provides an aerodynamic shroud over sensitive equipment located in the centre wing part of the A400M. The fairing protects the equipment from lightning, hail damage and bird strikes,” she said. The fuselage top shells are made up of more than 1100 individual parts and a large machined skin, engineered out of an aluminium alloy. “Each A400M is fitted with two top shells, positioned in front and behind the wings where they join the fuselage,” Qinga said. “They are also fitted with about 1000 brackets which support electrical and electronic wiring, hot air and heat exchange pipes and the aircraft’s emergency life rafts.” Saloojee said: “This is a celebration of South African innovation and our high-tech manufacturing capabilities. We are participating with great success and confidence in the most ambitious multinational aircraft production process ever. It shows that we have the skills and capacity inside South Africa to manufacture sophisticated aerostructures.”
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 12:36pm On Oct 03, 2013
South African company Saab Grintek Defence (SGD), part of the Swedish Saab aerospace and defence group, has been awarded two orders, worth $33-million (about R335-million) in total, by Indian State-owned aircraft company Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) to supply it with electronic warfare (EW) self-protection systems. These will be fitted to the HAL Dhruv advanced light helicopters being delivered to the Indian Air Force and Army.

“Saab in South Africa fulfills an important mandate on the African continent and beyond by delivering an impressive range of South African electronic warfare technology,” affirmed Saab South Africa CEO Magnus Lewis-Olsson. “Up to 90% of these systems are being designed and produced in Saab Grintek Defence facilities in South Africa – we are proud to deliver on this important contract.”
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 12:50pm On Oct 03, 2013
South African defence company Denel Land Systems (DLS), part of the State-owned Denel group, publicly unveilled two new products at the 2013 Defence and Security Equipment International (DSEI) exhibition at the Excel Centre, in London, recently. The new products are the M10 60 mm breech-loading mortar and the GI-30 30 mm ‘CamGun’ cannon. “We have chosen DSEI to launch these systems internationally because it is the world’s largest fully integrated defence expo and attractsindustry leaders, decision- makers and analysts from across the globe,” explains Denel group CEO Riaz Saloojee in a statement to the media.





DLS regards the mortar and cannon as world leaders in their areas and affirms that both have features that are unique. Both new weapons have been developed in parallel with DLS’s new Badger infantry combat vehicle (ICV). This is a South African devel- opment of the Finnish Patria armoured modular vehicle, modified to meet South African requirements and fitted with a DLS-developed turret .Denel to present two new SA weapons at London exhibition The M10 can be mounted on most standard turrets but it is so compact and its recoil is so low (54 kN) that it can be mounted on light unarmoured vehicles and even on boats. It has an elevation range of – 5˚ to +70 ˚, allowing it to be used in direct fire as well as the more normal indirect fire roles. It has a sustained rate of fire of six rounds per minute, or it can fire eight rounds a minute with one minute intervals between bursts for up to 250 bombs. At sea level, it has a maximum range of 6 000 m, which, DLS states, makes it the world leader in its class. The company also affirms that the M10 will be “an ideal weapon system for peace support operations and the changing nature of modern conflict in urban or other close environments”.

“We are confident that the GI-30 will impress and excite the industry and visitors to DSEI,” opines Saloojee. “It was developed as part of our contract to deliver a world leading infantry combat vehicle for the South African Army. It will be the main weapon system on the South African Badger ICV but can easily be fitted onto other turrets on the market.”

DLS describes the weapon as “an externally driven electromechanical cannon, utilising a drum-cam to cycle the breech to chamber rounds and extract spent cartridges – this reduces gases in the confines of a turret and improves the controlled firing rate”
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It can fire up to 100 rounds a minute, but can also be used in a single shot ‘sniper’ mode with a closed breech. As, in this mode, no movement takes place before the round is fired, the result is greater accuracy. The cannon has an effective range of up to 4 000 m. The GI-30 fires linkless 30 mm × 173 mm ammunition of three different types – the semi-armour-piercing high-explosive incendiary, the armour-piercing fin-stabilised discarding sabot and the target practice type. The ammunition supply within the turret replenishes the gun, which can use ammunition produced by DLS sister company Denel PMP or by European manufacturers Nammo and Oerlikon.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 12:51pm On Oct 03, 2013
South African armoured and mine-protected vehicle company BAE Systems Land Systems South Africa (LSSA) has unveiled the latest version of its RG35 6 × 6 armoured combat vehicle. This was done at the 2013 Defence and Security Equipment International (DSEI) exhibition at the Excel Centre, in London, last week. This is one of the world’s most important defence shows. SA armoured vehicle group shifts product focus as market evolvesTh e RG35 has been evolving since the vehicle was first revealed in 2009. That first version was also a 6 × 6 vehicle. In 2011, it was complemented by the develop-ment of the RG35 4 × 4, which is intended as an armoured and mine-protected reconnaissance, patrol and utility vehicle.

“Quite a few significant changes were made to the 4 × 4 version,” reports LSSA business development and communications director Natasha Pheiffer. “Now these changes have been integrated into the 6 × 6, to increase their commonality.” As a result, the commonality between the 4 × 4 and 6 × 6 versions is now greater than 85%.

The improvements made include a modern, high-capa-city, independent suspension system which is hydropneumatic and fitted with a ride height management system; a payload of up to 13 t, depending on role and application; and wide-body variants which can be equipped with one- or two-man turrets while also providing excellent space use, yet retaining compactness.

Other improvements come in the form of a range of options. Both the 4 × 4 and 6 × 6 ver-sions can now be fitted with a 441.3 kW (600 hp) power plant, resulting in power-to-weight ratios of up to 29.42 kW/t (40 hp/t). (The original 6 × 6 model’s engine was a 336 kW or 450 hp unit.)
They can be equipped with seats in their rear compartments which face forward, inward or outward. There is now an optional hydraulically operated rear ramp and an optional powered side door to improve the boarding and exiting of the vehicles.

The SD ROW has been devel-oped by LSSA’s Dynamics business, and is a lightweight weapons system for use on a range of soft-skinned, mine-protected and light-armoured vehicles. It can be fitted with 5.56 mm or 7.62 mm light machine guns.

The 6 × 6 RG35 can also be fitted with the tactical remote turret (TRT), also developed by the Dynamics unit. This turret can be armed with 20 mm, 25 mm or 30 mm cannons. Fitted with electromechanical drives, it is operated by one person, who enjoys 360˚ observation through the TRT’s sighting system. It also has comprehensive safety systems. It is intended for use on mine-protected, light-armoured and infantry combat vehicles. The TRT was also displayed at the DSEI exhibition, but mounted on vehicles from Renault Truck Defence, of France, and Nimr, of the United Arab Emirates.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:24pm On Oct 03, 2013
souldust: i just have to agree with you on this.

I think you sound more educated and sensible when you dont copy and paste.

We buy boats from SA
true, but most, if not all SA manufactured weapons are not war tested hence, making it a risk acquiring them For NA

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 2:57pm On Oct 03, 2013
sheyie2007: true, but most, if not all SA manufactured weapons are not war tested hence, making it a risk acquiring them For NA

What a rubbish argument. Whatever happened to looking at specs and firing guns to see that they work? How many wars are there in the world, so that weapons can be war tested? I see that the idîocy continues on this thread.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 2:59pm On Oct 03, 2013
I see also that Naai-gerian commercial aviation is still useless. I shake my head.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-24381066

A plane carrying 20 people has crashed shortly after take-off from Lagos airport in Nigeria, officials say.

A rescue operation is ongoing. At least 13 people are known to have died and several more of those on board were injured.

The Associated Airlines plane was bound for Akure, which lies about 140 miles (225km) north-east of Lagos.

The plane's engine appeared to fail and the aircraft plunged to the ground and burst into flames, officials said.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 3:08pm On Oct 03, 2013
Mike..ZA:
Your country goes to war. This guy will lead a breakaway state. The republic of Biafra. Nigeria can't go to any major full blown war. Your armed should be ranked below our Algerian brothers.

You must be in a trance where you just keep talking trash through your smelly rear end! Maybe you should provide your DENEL Weapons to your breakaway agitators to see how we roll as a potent Nigeria Army! You don't seem to know where to get off the bus, that's why you continue to show the best of your stupidity! Keep basking in your sunset!!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by kwametut: 3:34pm On Oct 03, 2013
@SANDF
Keep it real julle, I see ya'll are keeping it tight. THEYR ALL YOURS. THATHA MZANSI. grin grin grin grin grin wink wink wink wink
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 4:02pm On Oct 03, 2013
NaijaPikinGidi:

You must be in a trance where you just keep talking trash through your smelly rear end! Maybe you should provide your DENEL Weapons to your breakaway agitators to see how we roll as a potent Nigeria Army! You don't seem to know where to get off the bus, that's why you continue to show the best of your stupidity! Keep basking in your sunset!!
Nigeria is good fighting rebels. It won't be difficult to defeat a breakaway state forces,but with your country engaged in a conventional warfare. Rebels can secure their land,and give Abuja hard time. Your armed forces arw ill experienced. You keep talking about sierra leone,when we all know a South African created private security company(Executive outcomes) took the credit for stopping that war.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 4:08pm On Oct 03, 2013
sheyie2007: true, but most, if not all SA manufactured weapons are not war tested hence, making it a risk acquiring them For NA

The m1a1 went 20 years before it fired a shot and was seen has good long before 1991. And a lot of our wepaons and sytems are used in the ME
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:48pm On Oct 03, 2013
Thiza: @augustus no country should impose its own rules unless invited. Regarding Kenya they should have asked for assistance and definetly South Africa would have positively responded but as a pride many African countries shun any African assistance especially South African. The South African Special Task Force would have done a perfect job in support of the Kenyan security forces but the pride forced the Kenyan to asked for Israelis support which is not wrong at all.

Nigerian should buying South African military hardware buy not with their pride.....Africans would never be seen supporting other Africans especially when matters of pride is concern....Hence Africans would rather be seen with other nationalities than blacks. The time Africans like South Africa its only when they failed to obtain a visa to travel oversees and then use South Africa as an alternative.

Hence Africans think South Africa is a dumping ground for the unemployed and illiterate Africans who believes they are better than South Africans and yet survive on South African hospitality. AFRICANS SUFFER FROM MASSIVE INFERIORITY COMPLEX BUT ONLY REALISE THAT THEY ARE BETTER WHEN IN SOUTH AFRICA AGAINST SOUTH AFRICANS.

Maybe you are right on some points....but Nigeria and south Africa are good friends but....competition problem..

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:49pm On Oct 03, 2013
Thiza: @augustus no country should impose its own rules unless invited. Regarding Kenya they should have asked for assistance and definetly South Africa would have positively responded but as a pride many African countries shun any African assistance especially South African. The South African Special Task Force would have done a perfect job in support of the Kenyan security forces but the pride forced the Kenyan to asked for Israelis support which is not wrong at all.

Nigerian should buying South African military hardware buy not with their pride.....Africans would never be seen supporting other Africans especially when matters of pride is concern....Hence Africans would rather be seen with other nationalities than blacks. The time Africans like South Africa its only when they failed to obtain a visa to travel oversees and then use South Africa as an alternative.

Hence Africans think South Africa is a dumping ground for the unemployed and illiterate Africans who believes they are better than South Africans and yet survive on South African hospitality. AFRICANS SUFFER FROM MASSIVE INFERIORITY COMPLEX BUT ONLY REALISE THAT THEY ARE BETTER WHEN IN SOUTH AFRICA AGAINST SOUTH AFRICANS.

Maybe you are right on some points.

Nigeria and south Africa are good friends but....competition problem is a big issue.

Nigeria is still globally regarded as the giant of Africa.

Why should Nigeria buy weapons from an ambitious 'prince' that is interested in his 'kings' crown ?
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 5:03pm On Oct 03, 2013
Mike..ZA:
Nigeria is good fighting rebels. It won't be difficult to defeat a breakaway state forces,but with your country engaged in a conventional warfare. Rebels can secure their land,and give Abuja hard time. Your armed forces arw ill experienced. You keep talking about sierra leone,when we all know a South African created private security company(Executive outcomes) took the credit for stopping that war.

cool cool cool cool I see you are enjoying the long sunset in your dream! Enjoy. cool cool cool cool
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 6:56pm On Oct 03, 2013
Special forces bomb B’Haram hideouts in Yobe, Borno

October 3, 2013 by Fidelis Soriwei, Abuja 21 Comments






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Military special forces on Wednesday carried out a major operation against the Boko Haram fighters at a forest region between Borno and Yobe states.

A security source said the special forces, who carried out an aerial surveilance of the area, discovered a major camp of the insurgents some kilometers away from the Yobe State School of Agriculture, Gujba, where about 90 students were murdered on Sunday.

The source said that the operation was one of the biggest offensives of the Nigerian military against the Boko Haram since the declaration of the emergency rule by President Goodluck Jonathan in Borno, Yobe and Adamawa states.

Investigations revealed that three Alpha jets, several heavy artillery weapons and a large number of ground forces of the Division 7 of the Nigerian Army in Borno and Yobe states participated in the operation.

Although, the source could not give the casualty figure in the operation, he stated that the camp was one of the largest to have been discovered and could contain hundreds of insurgents.

It was further stated that the entire forest was engulfed in a thick fire as at the time of filing the reports.

A highly placed Defence Headquarters source said that the military devised “a strategy to box them in” to prevent them from escaping during the operation.

It was learnt that the men of the Joint Task Force in Yobe and those in Maiduguri were deployed simultaneously alongside three Alpha jets of the Nigerian Air Force during the Wednesday raid by the military.

The source said that the Nigerian military sustained the fierce attack on the terrorists’ enclave all through the operation that lasted several hours.

The source said, “The operation today was a massive one. Heavy artillery guns were deployed, Air Force, and ground troops from Borno and Yobe were deployed in large number.”

http://www.punchng.com/news/special-forces-bomb-bharam-hideouts-in-yobe-borno/

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:02pm On Oct 03, 2013
@andrewza you once said you dont see SA and Nigeria working together because we have different ways we would like to relate ith the world. What do you think are those different ways we want to relate with the world?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 8:03pm On Oct 03, 2013
sheyie2007: true, but most, if not all SA manufactured weapons are not war tested hence, making it a risk acquiring them For NA
South African weapons have been tested in Iraq,Afghanistan and Angola. The G5 caused destruction to brigades(nearly wiping out one in a single day Angola),what's "fascinating" is that only a single battery(a group of 8 guns) was deployed.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 8:41pm On Oct 03, 2013
souldust: @andrewza you once said you dont see SA and Nigeria working together because we have different ways we would like to relate ith the world. What do you think are those different ways we want to relate with the world?

We both want to be the big boy. Though I have seen some strides in improving our milltary to milltary relashinship. A joint exersize(maybe with NNS thunder on her return trip or when we sail up the west coast again) could accour in the futer. But we all so have diffrent allies rember ivory coast.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 10:11pm On Oct 03, 2013
agaugust:

Maybe you are right on some points.

Nigeria and south Africa are good friends but....competition problem is a big issue.

Nigeria is still globally regarded as the giant of Africa.

Why should Nigeria buy weapons from an ambitious 'prince' that is interested in his 'kings' crown ?
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South Africa politically is not the USA's ally or enemy. But we still purchase weapons from them,it gets to a point where the best or affordable weapons on the market are from the that country. You're not an enemy or friend. Like when Turkey came back to South Africa to buy that Husky 2G vehicle,which they "abandoned" after politically deciding not to buying the Rooivalk. What I'm trying to say is whether Nigeria hates South Africa or not they will buy SA made weapons. Some might be bought in secret like the MRAP,rumoured Nigeria to have bought. Now follows india,looks like they're looking for more SA made systems by "clearing" Denel from all wrong doing purchaseswww.janes.com/article/27890/india-prepares-to-lift-denel-ban-after-ntw-20-probe-goes-nowhere?from_rss=1
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 1:06am On Oct 04, 2013
Denel has established a joint venture with Abu Dhabi-based Tawazun. Holding, for the development, manufacturing, assembly and integration of precision-guided weapon systems, opening up the international gateway to potential new opportunities.The joint venture is with Denel
Dynamics, trading as Tawazun Dynamics, owned 51% by Tawazun Holding and 49% by Denel. It will provide precision-guided weapon system manufacturing and integration, as well as product system management services to the defence force of the United Arab Emirates and other
international clients.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dragon2(m): 11:00am On Oct 04, 2013
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 12:42pm On Oct 04, 2013
Army Detonates Boko Haram Bombs in Maiduguri



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The Nigerian Army yesterday begun the detonation of bombs recovered from the outlawed Boko Haram sect during the recently concluded military operations in Borno, Yobe and Adamawa States, tagged (Operation BOYONA).

This is coming as the military also disclosed that it killed several members of the sect and arrested 15 others in Yobe State, following their alleged killing of 40 students of the College of Agriculture, Gujba, last weekend.

In a statement yesterday, the spokesman of the 7 Division of Nigerian Army in Borno State, Lt. Col. Sagir Musa, said the military would be destroying large quantities of Improvised Explosive Devices (IEDs) recovered during the recent operations in Borno, Yobe and Adamawa States (Operation BOYONA).

He warned residents and members of Chabbal, a community in the outskirts of Maiduguri, including farmers and herdsmen to remain indoors, as the exercise commenced today.

On the recent attacks and killings on the Maiduguri-Damaturu road and in Benishiekh town, the spokesman said: “Following the recent strikes on this road and Benishiekh, by the suspected Boko Haram terrorists, the 7 Division of Nigerian Army is seriously concerned and is acting with the view to containing this ugly trend, not only on the affected road, but other roads; as well as in its other areas of responsibility.

“The whole effort is to destroy terrorism and ensure the protection of people’s life and property. Members of the public are requested to continue to remain resilient and security conscious at all times, as the 7 Military Division is poised to eradicating this madness.”
In another development, the spokesman of the Army in Damaturu, Captain Eli Lazarus, in a statement, said several members of the terrorists group were killed in a ground and air strikes, which was carried out by officers and men of the command.

“After the attack on the college of Agriculture in Gujba, our men carried out an operation around the Gujba axis and a camp of the insurgent was raided and several members of the insurgents were killed while 15 others were arrested,” Lazarus said.
According to him, those arrested are currently undergoing investigation and have been given useful information to the military that will help track down the hoodlums.
He said the military are strategising and would soon come up with new measures, which would curtail the activities of the insurgents.



http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/army-detonates-boko-haram-bombs-in-maiduguri/160652/

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 12:49pm On Oct 04, 2013
Boko Haram: 186 killed, 15 arrested as Military raids insurgents’ camp in Yobe


By Maina Maina on October 3, 2013











soldiersUnconfirmed reports in Damaturu, the Yobe State capital revealed that over 186 Boko haram insurgents connected with the bloody massacre of about 70 students at College of Agriculture, Gujba, Yobe state have been killed in recent attacks by men of the 7 Division Nigerian Army.

The military, who have been in search of the suspected members of the Boko Haram sect launched aerial bombardment on new camps sighted via satellite .

Residents of Damaturu told DailyPost that the men of the Joint task Force had claimed on Thursday that they killed scores of the insurgents who perpetrated the act of killing innocent travelers as well as the attack on the College of Agriculture in Gujba town.

It was learnt that the military raided the camps of the insurgents near Mazari village and arrested about 15 suspects.

According to reports, the offensive military raid of the terrorists hideouts was intensified last Sunday when some gunmen suspected to be members of dreaded Boko Haram sect attacked the college’s dormitory and opened fire on the students in their sleep before they fled without being arrested.




The Spokesman of the JTF in Damaturu, the Yobe State capital, Captain Eli Lazarus however, told Journalists on Thursday that with the assistance of air strikes and ground troops, the hideouts of the terrorists believed to be the ones who carried separate attacks in the College, Yadi Buni and roadside attacks were identified.

He said following exchange of gunfire with the troops and the terrorists at their camps in Mazari village, scores of the terrorists were killed, while 15 of them were arrested in different locations in Gujba, Yadi Buni towns in an attempt to flee from the offensive military raid.

“Our troops on ground in collaboration with air strike bombardment were able to identify a terrorist’s camp in Mazari village, the camp is suspected to be the one harbouring the Boko Haram sects who launched a deadly attack on Gujba College of Agriculture last Sunday where they killed and injured many students.

“Consequently, when we raided the said camp, our men were able to kill many of the terrorists, destroyed the camp and arrest 15 of them who are now helping the military with vital information on how to locate some of their camps in the bushes”, Eli said.

He, therefore, assured the general public that the security agencies were doing everything possible in protecting lives and property in the state.

He, however, urged all and sundry to cooperate with the military by giving information to the JTF on the hideouts of terrorists or any suspicious movement in their localities, so as to nip terrorism in the bud.


http://dailypost.com.ng/2013/10/03/boko-haram-military-combats-insurgents-in-borno-yobe-camps/

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 12:50pm On Oct 04, 2013
CraigB: I see also that Naai-gerian commercial aviation is still useless. I shake my head.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-24381066

A plane carrying 20 people has crashed shortly after take-off from Lagos airport in Nigeria, officials say.

A rescue operation is ongoing. At least 13 people are known to have died and several more of those on board were injured.

The Associated Airlines plane was bound for Akure, which lies about 140 miles (225km) north-east of Lagos.

The plane's engine appeared to fail and the aircraft plunged to the ground and burst into flames, officials said.

That was a private chartered flight not a commercial airline. Show me where in the world plane crashes don't occur?

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:37pm On Oct 04, 2013
South African Air Force Contradicts Itself
by African Defence Admin • October 3, 2013

The confusion over the operational readiness of the South African Air Force deepened further on Wednesday [October 2] following the tabling of the Department of Defence’s annual report, which appears to contradict itself.

The tabling of the report follows persistent reports that most of the multibillion-rand Gripen jet fighters and Agusta 109 helicopters have been mothballed through lack of funds to keep them in the air.

The air force component of the controversial strategic arms procurement has also been the subject of evidence in the arms deal commission this week, with questions being posed on why it was decided to buy the Hawk trainer instead of the Aermacchi, which was cheaper.

In the report tabled by Defence Minister Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula the startling revelation is made that “taking the current funding levels into the future it is not possible to envisage any intact air capabilities operating in the SAAF (South African Air Force).

“The severe underfunding has led to the erosion of the aircraft systems integrity as no capacity could be built to maintain the systems.

“No steady state support contracts could be negotiated for Gripen, resulting in 12 aircraft being placed in long-term storage.”

This in effect means that soon the air force will be grounded. This is in sharp contrast to the claim, also in the report, that the fighter capability of one ready squadron had been achieved.

Introducing the report, the minister said “the SANDF (South African National Defence Force) has consistently maintained an excellent execution of government-ordered commitments. With the improvement of the state of readiness, the execution of successful operations will be of higher quality”.

Democratic Alliance defence spokesman David Maynier, commenting on the air combat capability, said: “I cannot understand how we can have a combat-ready ‘air combat capability’ when we have 12 fighter aircraft in long-term storage. The fact is these annual reports are little more than box-checking exercises designed to obscure the facts, rather than disclose them.

“The defence department annual report hearings are … designed to manufacture the impression that the defence department is accountable to Parliament. The reality is that the defence department has become a state-within-a-state and is now largely beyond effective scrutiny and oversight by Parliament,” he said.

Mr Maynier said Ms Mapisa-Nqakula had made an extraordinarily frank statement that at current funding levels, the air force would in effect be grounded. “There clearly needs to be a major intervention to reallocate funds within the existing defence budget, to properly fund the operational requirements.”



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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:22pm On Oct 04, 2013
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[size=16pt] F-7 JETS SINK 3 VALOUR FRIGATES & NNS ARADU ALSO SINKS THE 4TH SOUTH AFRICAN VALOUR WARSHIP.

WAR SIMULATION ALMOST READY AND WILL BE POSTED HERE THIS WEEKEND BY SUNDAY.

@Andrewza, please confirm with source, Valour frigate carries 8 or 16 Umkhonto missiles per voyage loaded ready in the vertical cells ? [/size]

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 8:23pm On Oct 04, 2013
agaugust:

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[size=16pt] F-7 JETS SINK 3 VALOUR FRIGATES & NNS ARADU ALSO SINKS THE 4TH SOUTH AFRICAN VALOUR WARSHIP.

WAR SIMULATION ALMOST READY AND WILL BE POSTED HERE THIS WEEKEND BY SUNDAY.

@Andrewza, please confirm with source, Valour frigate carries 8 or 16 Umkhonto missiles per voyage loaded ready in the vertical cells ? [/size]

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16. All source on the valour give that number.


Just point out jour J7 only carry dumb bombs. So they going to all be shot down.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:17pm On Oct 04, 2013
Nigerian Air Expo Announced
by African Defence Admin • October 4, 2013

The Nigerian Air Force organized Air Expo is an international air show; the only one in the West Africa sub region. The maiden editions of the air expo was held in 2010 and 2012 at Kaduna city and the next edition tagged Air Expo 2014 and The Nigerian Air Force at 50? is scheduled for 16 – 19 April 2014. The biennial air expo is expected to grow to become the major exhibition of the sub region and indeed Africa. It is aimed at promoting aviation development in West Africa in particular and Africa in general by providing opportunities for multinational and indigenous companies to showcase their products. The unique platform will thus elicit participation from both established and up-coming names in the aviation industry. An extensive audience is expected for the 4-day occasion, including senior politicians, senior international military officers and government officials of ECOWAS. The event will also be open to the public.

Aside from static display/exhibition, the air show will feature aerobatic display. Expert aviators from foreign air forces, some international aviation firms as well as the Nigerian Air force will display their flying skills and the capabilities of their aircraft to spectators.

The prestigious event will also give an insight into Nigeria’s fascinating people, culture and tourist sites. Guests can mingle with the locals and enjoy traditional dance as cultural troops from across the nation will be on hand to thrill guests with enthralling performances. Visitors will also be availed the opportunity of visiting tourist attractions all over the country. Kaduna city, the venue of the air expo, is one of the most beautiful emerging cities in the north central part of Nigeria. Its central location makes it a choice location as it can easily be connected by air to every part of the country. The Air Expo2014 promises to be an exciting experience of a life time.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:17pm On Oct 04, 2013
Nigerian Air Expo Announced
by African Defence Admin • October 4, 2013

The Nigerian Air Force organized Air Expo is an international air show; the only one in the West Africa sub region. The maiden editions of the air expo was held in 2010 and 2012 at Kaduna city and the next edition tagged Air Expo 2014 and The Nigerian Air Force at 50? is scheduled for 16 – 19 April 2014. The biennial air expo is expected to grow to become the major exhibition of the sub region and indeed Africa. It is aimed at promoting aviation development in West Africa in particular and Africa in general by providing opportunities for multinational and indigenous companies to showcase their products. The unique platform will thus elicit participation from both established and up-coming names in the aviation industry. An extensive audience is expected for the 4-day occasion, including senior politicians, senior international military officers and government officials of ECOWAS. The event will also be open to the public.

Aside from static display/exhibition, the air show will feature aerobatic display. Expert aviators from foreign air forces, some international aviation firms as well as the Nigerian Air force will display their flying skills and the capabilities of their aircraft to spectators.

The prestigious event will also give an insight into Nigeria’s fascinating people, culture and tourist sites. Guests can mingle with the locals and enjoy traditional dance as cultural troops from across the nation will be on hand to thrill guests with enthralling performances. Visitors will also be availed the opportunity of visiting tourist attractions all over the country. Kaduna city, the venue of the air expo, is one of the most beautiful emerging cities in the north central part of Nigeria. Its central location makes it a choice location as it can easily be connected by air to every part of the country. The Air Expo2014 promises to be an exciting experience of a life time.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:52pm On Oct 04, 2013
The SANDF is a totally ill-disciplined force. 1000 soldiers protesting.....LMAO



Union Buildings protestors' trial resumes on Monday

October 4, 11:04 am

Another chapter in the ongoing military legal drama that has unfolded since the August 2009 illegal march on the Union Buildings by about 1 000 SA National Defence Force (SANDF) members will start on Monday at the SA Army Gymnasium in Heidelberg.


Two hundred and twenty-three soldiers have already made one appearance on charges brought in terms of the SANDF Military Disciplinary Code at the southern Gauteng military base.

"The resumption of proceedings follows the postponement by the presiding judge of a military court on July 9 after hearing arguments from lawyers for the defence and prosecution," SANDF director corporate communications Brigadier General Xolani Mabanga said.

An indication that the drawn-out legalities which have hallmarked the issue to date might be reaching an end stage comes from his statement that the "presiding judge has indicated no further postponement will be granted".

The resumption of court proceedings on Monday will mean yet another attempt to get the legal process underway. This all goes back to then-Defence and Military Veterans Minister Lindiwe Sisulu's decision to put the up to 1 000 soldiers allegedly involved in the protest march on special leave days after the incident, which left property and vehicles damaged.

Subsequent to that, SANDF Chief General Solly Shoke issued an instruction revoking the special leave after a North Gauteng High Court ruling instructed that the marchers be disciplined through the military justice system.

An appeal was made via printed and electronic media to soldiers to return to their home bases and units and while some responded others did not. Those who did then attended pre-trial hearings at 121 SA Infantry Battalion at Mtubatuba in KwaZulu-Natal.

There is no indication from the SANDF as to whether the 223 are the only soldiers who will face charges in connection with the protest or whether attempts are still underway to track down others apparently involved.

SA National Defence Union (Sandu) Western Cape spokesman Tim Flack earlier this year told defenceWeb the military trade union had been informed "any number" of soldiers placed on special leave had returned home and have taken up civilian work.

"I don't think they will go back to the military," he said at the time.

All those who have appeared at Heidelberg responded to the instruction issued by Shoke following the court ruling.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 1:11am On Oct 05, 2013
Relax as few ill discipline soldiers do not constitute a security threats especially in a democratic society as South Africa. These rogue elements would face a military tribunal to deal with them. Unlike your Nigeria where such activities by the military usually leads to the following attached time line of security destabilisation:

1960
Nigeria declares independence from Britain in October. Three years later, it becomes a republic.

1966
Middle-ranking members of the Nigerian military stage an attempted coup in January that is suppressed by federal troops, but results in the installation of a military government.

1967
The Eastern Region of Nigeria secedes in May, proclaiming itself the Republic of Biafra. Country plunges into a civil war that kills an estimated one million.

1970
The Biafra secessionists capitulate in January. Successive governments promise elections but military rule continues.

1979
Nigeria returns to civilian government rule in October, electing Sheu Shagari as President of the Second Republic.

1983

Shagari regime is deposed in December, as a military coup ousts the democratically elected government.

1985
A second coup ushers in a regime headed by Gen. Ibrahim Babangida. Babangida later promises new elections.

1993

Nigerians go to the polls in June, elect Social Democratic Party candidate Moshood Abiola as the new president of the country with 58 percent of the vote. On the eve of election results, General Babangida annuls the election. The United States suspends aid as a political crisis ensues.

Eleven die in riots protesting military rule.

Babangida steps down in August and chooses interim government.

Gen. Sani Abacha seizes power in November.

1994

Nigerian police arrest Abiola in June after he declares himself president of the country.

In July, a federal high court charges Abiola with treason for declaring himself president.

The 50,000-member Nigerian Union of Petroleum and Natural Gas Workers declares a strike as the government sends in soldiers to replace workers in July. The strike increases the price of crude oil worldwide.

Most of Nigeria's oil workers return to their jobs in September.

Wole Soyinka, winner of 1986 Nobel Prize for literature, flees Nigeria in November.

1995
In October, General Abacha vows he will step down in three years after reforms are complete.

Nigeria's military government hangs nine political activists in November, including well-known playwright Ken Saro-Wiwa, who was accused of involvement in the killings of four pro-government traditional chiefs in 1994.

Nigeria is suspended from the Commonwealth, the 52-member organization grouping Britain and its former colonies, after the hangings.

1996
Kudirat Abiola, the outspoken wife of detained Nigerian presidential claimant Moshood Abiola, is shot and killed while being driven along a Lagos street in June.

1997
Exiled writer Wole Soyinka is charged in absentia with treason in March by the country's military government.

1998
May 7: Nigeria announces that it has freed 142 prisoners on orders of General Abacha.

General Abdulsalam Abubakar
June 8: Abacha dies at his villa in the Nigerian capital. He is quickly replaced by a close ally, Maj. Gen. Abdulsalam Abubakar.

12: Hundreds of Nigerians hold scattered protests in Lagos to demand an end to military rule. They are dispersed by troops and police.

July
3: Nigeria's new military government confirms that they intend to release the country's political prisoners, including Moshood Abiola.

7: Nigeria's imprisoned political leader, Moshood Abiola, dies of an apparent heart attack as he talks with Nigerian officials and senior U.S. diplomats about how to resolve the country's five-year-old political crisis.

20: In a major television address, Maj. Gen. Abubakar promises that free elections will be held in early 1999 and a civilian sworn in as president of Nigeria on May 29.

1999
January 20: Nigerian and international election monitors declared that local elections in December and state elections Jan. 9 were fair. The country enters high campaign season for the election of its first national civilian leadership in 15 years.

February 27: Nigerians vote for a civilian president in an election marred by claims of voter fraud and irregularties. Two days later, Nigeria's election commission confirms the winner: former military ruler Olusegun Obasanjo.

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