Sagamite:

I am trying to clarify what is paedophilia.

The guy is more of a deviant gay than a paedo.

Having sexual intercourse with a 17 year old, might be against the law but is not termed as real paedophilia even by the worst psychologist.

Less if it is done by a 21 year old.

My point is, he is more of a gay than a paedo even if you can call it paedophilia.

Abeg don't let me give you lecture that is reserve for the "who born the maga" IBEXY.

Sagamite:

You ran the last time I was about to cut and dice you.

Sagamite:

Fooool, you are still living in your deluded world that faggotism will be accepted in Nigeria?  

Sagamite:

We will feed you your poo like he was fed.  

tensor777:

I get what you're saying. My only grouse is with  the bolded in the sense that the victim is a male, not female  and as such Nigerian criminal law classifies such an act as "having unlawful carnal knowledge" not as having sexual intercourse.

snowdrops:

He abused his position of trust. He was supposed to be a pastor, someone with some moral standing, who people look up to to strenghten their faith. Thats what makes this case quite seroius. The age of consent for their victims is lowered from the normal one of 18yrs to 16yrs for this very reason.

Why do you think there is so much scrutiny of teachers, doctors and catholic priest when it comes to immoral relationship with those under their care.

ruba_slipa:

Er, please link to when that was, we'd like to see! Unlike you, who can post 20 times a day, everyday, I have gainful employment.

I've been in 9ja, and I'm pleased to see that coming up to our 50th, the country is making progress, small, small.


Keep quiet, you know you are on your final warning to get kicked off. I haven't patience for your internet warrior noise. I'm out of your league anyway. You and which army will do what? I'm actually in London now, where are you, can't be too far away? Will see then. You bring your possee, I know you won't come alone. I'll bring some friends too. Warning. They are not 9jas - notorious for making threatening noise but bottling it at the very last moment. You ain't doing knish, nothing, nada. You know it, and so does everyone else.

cl@t.

Look at how you replied to IBEXY. You can't even pretend to be sane or logical. Can you try and make a post where you make a point, instead of just claiming someone else is 'moronic'? Your posting record is a joke, and a joke that is clear to all.

Uyi Iredia:

let all theists here >>> (not every #airalander is a Christian) >>>> thank God for one thing

we are arguing about how what the pastor did was wrong >>> in the West the argument would be >>> what the pastor did wasn't right

catch my drift  

Sagamite:

That was the intellectual lecture I wanted to give "who born the maga" IBEXY.
When I give theory, such a fooool should not be opening his mouth to ridicule it. He should get his notebook out and start jotting. What a foolhardy ward!

Sagamite:

What I am saying that, if you list his crimes, paedophilia would be way below faggotism considering the age of victim and futhermore the difference in age between perpetrator and victim

PS: I bet the 17 year old had no clue what sex was not to talk of sodomization.

ruba_slipa:

No Uyi, that is not accurate. Why make such a throwaway comment? These kinds of cases are very serious in the US and Europe, Aus and NZ at least. Why do you think the Roman Catholic Church is in such serious trouble all over the place right now? Reputation is a mess, some dioceses going broke from court cases and paying compensation, priests in prison, others committing suicide, people leaving the church, and few want to become a RC priest any more.

@Sagamental:
Quit pretending. You're just an internet gangsta, and I repeat, you ain't doing squat, apart from repeating, repeating, repeating your 'moronic' bile and illogic.

IBEXY:

its obvious you talk b4 you think. Am not the only one who thinks so. Read through this thread. At least in 2 places, they have attested to how many times you made a fool of yourself in other discussions.

Listen to youself talk. What is the name of God is "faggotism". Is that also in the "notebook". mumu.

Uyi Iredia:

@ MsTom
i don' agree with this statement >>> at 9 i was smart enough to know i was abused >>> talkless a guy 16 or 17 >>> in my earlier comment (check thru) >>> i tacitly implied that situatios like mine were sporadically reccuring >>> with due respect >>> i think your statement is too facile

ruba_slipa:



OTOH, MsTom, you are being a bit unrealistic here:
'I bet the 17 year old had no clue what sex was, '

Uyi Iredia:

@ MsTom
i don't agree with this statement >>> at 9, i was smart enough to know i was abused >>> talkless, a guy 16 or 17 >>>

snowdrops:

He abused his position of trust. He was supposed to be a pastor, someone with some moral standing, who people look up to to strenghten their faith. Thats what makes this case quite seroius. The age of consent for their victims is lowered from the normal one of 18yrs to 16yrs for this very reason.

Why do you think there is so much scrutiny of teachers, doctors and catholic priest when it comes to immoral relationship with those under their care.

tensor777
You do need to be more coherent when you make your points. Is anyone doubting that everyone would face divine judgement  and justice one way or another??
Why also go off on a tangent saying faggottry is not Western culture but existed in biblical times. And so what?? You think that changes my view on the matter?
Nevertheless you have no right whatsoever to challenge anyone here for being outraged at this particular sin. If we feel its more abominable than stealing what exactly is that to you?
Who are you really to try and control peoples outrage against sin??

chinedumo:


am not stopping any outrage
but advocating for the right outrage
cos what was about to be committed is mass murder
that the majority is doing it does nt not make it right

Exodus 23:2  Thou shalt not follow the multitude to do evil: neither shalt thou yield in judgment, to the opinion of the most part, to stray from the truth

my question is not yet answered
By what authority do u challenge my questioning of outrage?
By what authority do u express outrage?


Oga all that you should be saying is that the guy got what he deserved, if he was not caught how many more boys will he despoil. U believe christians should not react right, fine, ur living an illusion. any offence they say is punishable even God punished those who disobeyed him after he had warned them severally. these things should be taken seriously and the criminals should be punished so lets leave christianity outta this. HE GOT WHAT HE DESERVED.

Sagamite:
Amsorry!!!
Dimwit! That is all you could summon now to challenge my "confused" theory?  
Next time when I talk, get a notebook and start jotting. Dunce.  

Put the intellect of all your teachers so far in life together and sum it up, it will still be below my feet. So better use the opportunity to start learning something.

chinedumo:


[b]am not stopping any outrage
but advocating for the right outrage
cos what was about to be committed is mass murder
that the majority is doing it does nt not make it right

b]

ademiller:

Oga all that you should be saying is that the guy got what he deserved, if he was not caught how many more boys will he despoil. U believe christians should not react right, fine, your living an illusion. any offence they say is punishable even God punished those who disobeyed him after he had warned them severally. these things should be taken seriously and the criminals should be punished so lets leave christianity outta this. HE GOT WHAT HE DESERVED.

tensor777:

Who exactly called for jungle justice? Are you going off on a tangent on this mob action issue to take away the focus on this satanic priest's heinous acts?
In fact you are just speculating about the mob action. There is not even any sign that the pastor was seriously beaten yet you call it attempted mass murder.

I reiterate this priest deserves to be punished in accordance with the law for his despicable crimes. That is all.

Away from that, I still find it very odd that you feel you can challenge and ultimately control people's outrage. Who exactly are you?

but i speak to those who call themselves Christians, [b]to acts as Christians

Evil Brain:

An one more thing, will everybody please stop talking about about p@edophilia. This guy may be many things but a p@edophile is definitely not one of them. What happened is that a 21 year old had $ex with a 17 year old. It may be against some people's moral sensibilities, but it's perfectly legal.Get your facts straight before you post please.

ruba_slipa:

That's your shame, Sagamental, you can actual reason to the level of say, a toddler when you try. Instead, you prefer to hurl the same old abuse, and empty threats from behind your screen, deep underground, away from people. I bet you don't talk down the pub the way you talk on this site to people,

Your link shows Vatican stats, and I don't trust them to be honest. They don't want to admit to anyone that the RC Church has an image problem:

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/faith/as-priest-numbers-fall-even-catholic-spain-is-not-immune-to-a-crisis-of-faith-1839313.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/9053252

It would be surprising if the bad publicity was not affecting recruitment.

Uyi Iredia:

could equally mean >>> i dunno what type of Christian you are >>> i've since learnt to be wary of the word 'Christian'
'gay Pastor', 'gay Christian' >>> the word 'Christian' has become bastardized

IBEXY:

I rate you very high on your arsenal/vocabulary of abusive language. (Its probably the only part of the English language you have a mastery over). Look at you justifying adults having sex with minors in the name of biological misclassification. mumu x2.

Kilode?!:

Too many arguments flying around all at the same time.

Is he a Pedo? ; I'll say NO? because their ages are just too close to call it that, moreso, the age of consent in Nigeria is about 14-16. He can wiggle out of that one easily.

Is this despoil? ; Maybe, given the enormous amount of power and respect some gullible Nigerians give to any fool with the titles "PASTOR, WOLI" or "ALFA" we can argue that he took advantage of his position or even argue for despoil. The jury is still out.

Is he Gay/a gay/a law breaker? ; Definitely! while, I don't care about what folks do with their sexuality -as long as they keep it far away (Ladies, y'all can come as close as you want ) Our culture encourages too much bodily contact and I don't want to start being careful about who is trying to hug or shake me in Nigeria

Nigerian gays(I thought that was an oxymoron) better be prepared, this thing will get really ugly in Nigeria. Stay in your closets for now  

Should he be burnt?; Are you Osama?!