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Re: Mourinho: The Undisputed Master Of The Mind Games by Razorr(f): 10:22am On Jun 25, 2007 |
Jackal: Mr. P*ussy Jackal, have we told Sheva to leave yet? No! We are willing to give him more time to adjust. Mourinho has not told him to f*uck off, has he? He only scolded him for not showing commitment, that's all. Mourinho is willing to work with Sheva to bring the best out of him, if only Sheva would co-operate. |
Re: Mourinho: The Undisputed Master Of The Mind Games by Razorr(f): 10:24am On Jun 25, 2007 |
JK, you misunderstand me. Abramovich is to blame because he let his ego come to play, when he could have rescued the club from the woes of injury by buying a player in the January transfer window. He had the money, didn't he? Or was he broke in January? That's what I was refering to. |
Re: Mourinho: The Undisputed Master Of The Mind Games by Jackal(m): 10:38am On Jun 25, 2007 |
Co-operate? You are having a laugh!!!!!!!!!!! Take a look at Mourinho's signings this summer and u will laugh. Signing Pizzaro is a dumb move and Ben Haim? For Bleep's sake!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jose Mourinho should be ashamed of himself as far as last season was concerned. He made a complete fool of himself by moaning and whining to the media every day n night. Chelsea wasn't only the team that suffered bouts of injuries. United suffered more than Chelsea did but SAF never complained about injuries. I really don't understand what u think Roman Abrahamovic is. A`man that has squandered 250 million pounds on a team without making any PROFIT should be appreciated. He had to keep himself in check to know if the past success was due to his money or Mourinho's brilliance! We all know what the answer is right now. It means if Roman had spent just 50% maybe Mourinho wouldnt have won any title at all. |
Re: Mourinho: The Undisputed Master Of The Mind Games by justkunmi(m): 10:39am On Jun 25, 2007 |
@Razorr Oh oh oh. . . after spending millions on players without results, you wanted him to buy more players that would eventually flop? He bought chelsea to make profits my dear, but since he came, he has not smelled anything close to a single profit. all he did was spend, spend, spend. . . .and yet, u are rallying for another buy?? who were u planning on buying in january, after ballack and shev? Ronaldinho? Kaka?? Oh, so his refusal to buy players in Januray cost Chelsea the League title? OMG!!! Now i know how pathetic Chelsea is. |
Re: Mourinho: The Undisputed Master Of The Mind Games by tng(f): 10:47am On Jun 25, 2007 |
Its very easy to jump on the hate chelsea bandwagon. All those mentioning injury to Man U fans- Rio was out for four games or thereabout and vidic for six weeks. now for anybody that was injured manu had a replacement whether they were good enuff is another thing.The injuries we had, we didnt have any replacements except for hilario and the purchases we made were not in form.With all these and the stick thrown at anything chelsea they did very well to be in contention for anything as long as they did and even win two cups. Back to the topic, Nobody is decrying liverpool or manu or Arsenal of their history. Yeah, they have acheived more than Chelsea which JM mentioned for the time they have all been around but history is written everyday besides the now is what really matters. And all these noise about money spent is really getting very boring.Any football fan without bias knows spending doesn't translate to success and JM has very little say on transfers at the club. |
Re: Mourinho: The Undisputed Master Of The Mind Games by Razorr(f): 10:51am On Jun 25, 2007 |
Jackal, you are not making any sense. Is Mourinho supposed to go to the field and push Sheva around for him to perform? Did he tie his legs? By the way, please stop making all this noise about Mourinho whining. It's getting boring. Come up with better lines abeg. As for Roman, I'm sure he knew what he was geting his ass into when he took over at Chelsea. He is not stupid. He knows that he has to invest to get to the top of the world of football. Did the glazers stop giving SAF money in the past few years when he didn't win much? The answer is no. At least Jose has won the Prem back to back thereby helping our ratings. Getting to the top takes time and Mourinho and Roman are learning day by day. I know they've learnt from their mistakes and we would be hot next season. |
Re: Mourinho: The Undisputed Master Of The Mind Games by Razorr(f): 10:55am On Jun 25, 2007 |
justkunmi: I beg to defer on that statement sir. Mourinho delivered results! He won the Prem back to back and came close the third time. He also won the Carling and FA cups (beating you in the final by the way ). You guys just like hiting on Chelsea to hide your own failures. The owners of manure have pumped in more money than Chelsea on the club so you should all shut your mouths. |
Re: Mourinho: The Undisputed Master Of The Mind Games by Nobody: 10:57am On Jun 25, 2007 |
Bad belle people, anti-chelsea, you will all see what the BLUES will achieve this season Razorr tell them more |
Re: Mourinho: The Undisputed Master Of The Mind Games by somze(f): 11:02am On Jun 25, 2007 |
Here comes them Chelsea Haters again and yes its still thesame money money story. Just have a few to say, we have won everything save CL and we are working on that. Need i mention how much time (in years) SAF took to land his first trophy - The FA Cup, then how long it took after that to land his first league title, irrespective of the fact that ManU pumped much more money into the club than the others around. And you can complain all you want about our money, girls, WE PAY CASH!!! |
Re: Mourinho: The Undisputed Master Of The Mind Games by danniecool(m): 11:05am On Jun 25, 2007 |
Six titles in just three season. man, that a gud achievement, that means if he should spend the years Wenger has spent he would win 24 trophies to his credit |
Re: Mourinho: The Undisputed Master Of The Mind Games by Nobody: 11:09am On Jun 25, 2007 |
Abramovich, when he bought Chelsea F.C said he want the club to be the most successful in the world. I f Chelsea spend any amount, it is not a fucking business of any body. Beside, we are among the first ten richest club. danniecool: That is why Chelsea is called CUP KINGS |
Re: Mourinho: The Undisputed Master Of The Mind Games by Jackal(m): 11:20am On Jun 25, 2007 |
Y'all are soccer-novices! Blimey, u will be better off analysing dairy products. Mourinho won Zilch and his achievements as a manager is over-rated if u consider the funds he has squandered. Alex Ferguson joined Man Utd when United were under-dogs to Liverpool. He started from scratch and built a team that dominated the Premiership for a decade!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sir Alex has now won 9 Prem titles in just 15 seasons-------------Thats 60% domination!!!!!!! Mourinho inherited outstanding players from Ranieri and was given no-limit access to ridiculous funds so there can be no excuses. Let Mourinho manage a team like Charlton and lets see if he can qualify for UEFA cup,let alone win the Prem. |
Re: Mourinho: The Undisputed Master Of The Mind Games by Razorr(f): 11:22am On Jun 25, 2007 |
Jackal: Mourinho managed a team called FC Porto and won the Champions league. Please Mr. Jackal, tell me you were not surprised when Porto won the CL. |
Re: Mourinho: The Undisputed Master Of The Mind Games by tng(f): 11:28am On Jun 25, 2007 |
Jackal the soccer expert-Thank you. Some other coach could have all these resources and not deliver anything. Ur Sir Alex has had roughly the same crop of players and resources(maybe not as much as Chelsea's) for 3 yrs and didnt win zilch only a carling cup last yr. Whatever it is, Chelsea is getting where it needs to be and y'all can keep on talking. Mourinho managed a team called Porto and won the Champions league. Tell him abeg. |
Re: Mourinho: The Undisputed Master Of The Mind Games by Nobody: 11:34am On Jun 25, 2007 |
@ Soccer- expert, 6 trophies within 3 years is a good reason why you shouldn't compare JM with Ferg. he won Prem. and Coach of the season back to back, in the same year. I f he spend 3 more years, he will beat alex's record then noise makers like you will keep quiet |
Re: Mourinho: The Undisputed Master Of The Mind Games by chidichris(m): 11:37am On Jun 25, 2007 |
i really did not make anything out of this thread but if we must go by the words of mourinho, u and i know that there was much pressure on chelsea last season because of much spendings and the their winning abilities. if there was preasure on chelsea last season, do u think there will not be preasure on someone this season? it is normal that whenever much is spent by a club manager, much will be expected from him as to whom much is given much is expected. those who spend mcuh shld face the preasure mourinho face in the past three seasons so that we can now compare and contrast. it is time for man u to win all with liverpool winning all at the same time. for u all man u and liverpool, remember chelsea spent so much money and failed with them winning only two throphies so we expect you to do something new at least three per side to beat chelsea's record. |
Re: Mourinho: The Undisputed Master Of The Mind Games by Razorr(f): 11:42am On Jun 25, 2007 |
chidichris: Haa haa haa. . . Oh my dayz! Why do you think we call these guys scum? They're full of sh*t! They always love to attack Mourinho and Chelsea in other to steer attention away from their own failures! |
Re: Mourinho: The Undisputed Master Of The Mind Games by Jackal(m): 11:44am On Jun 25, 2007 |
It worries me when people just shoot their mouths off without subliminal thoughts. Porto FC is a big team with or without Mourinho. Go and check Porto's shelves and u will gape at the number of titles they have won before Mourinho stepped in. Winning titles at Porto is a tradition so dont make Mourinho look like a superman that went to a struggling club and delivered the goods there. Mourinho joined Porto in 2001. Prior to that, Porto won the league title successively in 95,96,97,98,99 and 2000. Mourinho left in 2004 and Porto have won the league title twice since Jose left. Can anyone tell me the difference with OR without Mourinho in Porto FC? Nigga pleaaaaaaaaase! In the last 3 years, Man Utd won the FA cup in 2004 and Carling cup in 2006. Check ur records before u spew crap. I can authoritatively tell u the reason United had a drought was because SAF was rebuilding! |
Re: Mourinho: The Undisputed Master Of The Mind Games by Razorr(f): 11:52am On Jun 25, 2007 |
Not so fast Jackal. FC Porto won the Champions league just once and that was when Mourinho was there. Why didn't they win it again after he left? By the way, the Portugese league is a crappy league. Do you watch their matches? It is often said as a joke that FC Porto is the only footie club in Portugal. Tell me Jackal, would you pay to watch Portugese league matches live? I didn't think so. |
Re: Mourinho: The Undisputed Master Of The Mind Games by somze(f): 11:57am On Jun 25, 2007 |
Jackal: You are the greatest soccer novice of them all. The question is not who was under dogs to who. Chelsea was once referred as that. The question is did ManU invest hugely to get the club to where it is today. My friend the answer is a resounding yes. Please if you do not know anything about football dont come making spurious claims here. I do not have to time now but anyway . . . First Alex has more than 20 years under his belt (1986 - 2007) for ManU. He signed a host of high profile players like - Steve Bruce, Viv Anderson, Brian McClair and Jim Leighton. Mark Hughes also returned in due time. Neil Webb and Paul Ince also came in, Gary Pallister also joined for a UK record fee of £2.3m. Still no trophies until 1990 which was an FA Cup. It was only after signing Cantona for about £1.2m that he had his first title in 1992. These were huge amounts back then. So keep your mouth running about Chelsea's finances, Manu came through thesame ropes and took much more time to arrive. Like i said earlier WE PAY CASH!!! |
Re: Mourinho: The Undisputed Master Of The Mind Games by tng(f): 11:59am On Jun 25, 2007 |
@Jackal I aint no nigga and i don't spew crap. I can authoritatively tell u the reason United had a drought was because SAF was rebuilding!Oh really! Prior to that, Porto won the league title successively in 95,96,97,98,99 and 2000.There was no champions league trophy and whether you appreciate that or not, he took them to that glory.Btw Porto is just like Celtic in the SPL. Just like chidichris said, U guys are doinmg all the spending now and will be defending champions next season, Lets see you win all trophies or at least do another treble. |
Re: Mourinho: The Undisputed Master Of The Mind Games by Iman3(m): 12:04pm On Jun 25, 2007 |
First Alex has more than 20 years under his belt (1986 - 2007) for ManU. When Alex joined Utd,Utd where in a relegation battle,hadn't won the league for 2 decades and in between,were once demoted.He took the team from relegation to perenial title contenders.There are simply no parralels btw Utd of 1986 and Roman Abramovich's Chelsea of 2004 |
Re: Mourinho: The Undisputed Master Of The Mind Games by loyika(m): 12:06pm On Jun 25, 2007 |
Chelsea! chelsea! Chelsea!! What a lovely world we live in Time will reveal all mates, time will reveal all! GOONER 89 P.S. YOU PAY CASH What else were you going to pay with? IN KIND |
Re: Mourinho: The Undisputed Master Of The Mind Games by Iman3(m): 12:07pm On Jun 25, 2007 |
FC Porto won the Champions league just once and that was when Mourinho was there With Google,you shouldn't be making ignorant remarks.Porto won the Champions League in 1987 |
Re: Mourinho: The Undisputed Master Of The Mind Games by Razorr(f): 12:08pm On Jun 25, 2007 |
I-man, take it easy. Nobody is trying to take anything for SAF. He is a brilliant coach and we respect him for his achievements. We are only asking you to give our coach his due respect in return. Chikena! |
Re: Mourinho: The Undisputed Master Of The Mind Games by Razorr(f): 12:09pm On Jun 25, 2007 |
I-man: There was no Champions League in 1987! |
Re: Mourinho: The Undisputed Master Of The Mind Games by Iman3(m): 12:10pm On Jun 25, 2007 |
Razorr: What's the difference between the Champion League and the Champions Cup?Abeg,go siddon. |
Re: Mourinho: The Undisputed Master Of The Mind Games by Jackal(m): 12:12pm On Jun 25, 2007 |
@ I-man, You just nailed these wanksterz coffins. SAF took United from relegation to English dominance. Only Roy Keane as Sunderland's manager came close and this is what i call an awesome impact. A year before Mourinho's arrival, Chelsea played in the S/finals of UEFA and came 2nd in the Premiership. Ranieri made some impressive signings that formed the very foundation Mourinho's team. JM is not a ball of fire like some heads think. He is just a lucky sonofabitch! @ Somze, If there's a nicompoop on this thread, it is YOU. The difference between Man United and Chelsea was playing GOOD FOOTBALL made MONEY for UNITED but MONEY made CHELSEA a good football team. Ferguson focused on the grassroots to discover the likes of Giggsy, Beckham, Scholes, Neville Brothers and Nicky Butt to build a dynasty BUT our dear JM was paying for MERCENARIES. People hated Man Utd so much because they were winning everything in the land but people hate Chelsea now because they are the most devious, 2-faced football team in the world with a loud-ass manager. |
Re: Mourinho: The Undisputed Master Of The Mind Games by somze(f): 12:13pm On Jun 25, 2007 |
I-man, Jackal Simple questionS - 1. Did ManU INVEST HUGELY IN PLAYERS WHEN ALEX JOINED? YES OR NO 2. Did ManU immediately gain success after the huge investment? YES or NO 3. Was it not after a series of buys and yes another Eric Cantona for another high fee before the got title success about 6 years later? YES or NO @LOYIKA you have more problems now it seems than Chelsea, i would concentrate on those |
Re: Mourinho: The Undisputed Master Of The Mind Games by Razorr(f): 12:15pm On Jun 25, 2007 |
@I-man 2004 - 1987 = 17. Porto could not win that cup for 17 years before Mourinho, so give me a break. 17 years is a long time. |
Re: Mourinho: The Undisputed Master Of The Mind Games by justkunmi(m): 12:19pm On Jun 25, 2007 |
Re: Mourinho: The Undisputed Master Of The Mind Games by Iman3(m): 12:19pm On Jun 25, 2007 |
somze: I believe we are conducting a comparison with Chelsea.Utd were not the biggest spenders ab initio.They didn't have the overwhelming financial dominance that Chelski had when Abramovich came with his filthy lucre.Many other clubs at various occasions outspent them-Blackburn,Newcastle,Liverpool and Leeds. They didn't gain any immediate success,for one thing,they weren't the biggest spenders.Also,they they were in the relegation battle when Fergie came on board and were not one of the dominant clubs then.Their situation can be compared to West Ham's situation now. To compare Utd of 1986 to Chelski of 2004 is ridiculous,verging on the stupid |
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