lets stop deceiving ourselves, there's no such thing as southerners, not sure why some want to hold us hostage to a union that is clearly not working  , must be the oil money  .
The minute we divide into North and South is the minute yorubas (SW) and Igbos (SE) will start their own fight (which is ongoing but subtle). I'm sure the north will help in liberating SW at the end of the day if it becomes too hard to do alone. We either manage the mess we're in or split along ethnic lines.

Onlytruth:

ndu_chucks is just lying through his teeth as usual. There is more than enough land in Igboland for returning Igbos.

I will start a campaign to force SE governors to designate land and plan new towns for returning Igbos and southerners.

The north is a game reserve for wild animals.

Northerners should then NEVER set foot on any part of our territory.

Dont mind him. He got that erroneous thinking from the crap Alj. Harem was posting earlier.

coldhearts:

lets stop deceiving ourselves, there's no such thing as southerners, not sure why some want to hold us hostage to a union that is clearly not working  , must be the oil money.
The minute we divide into North and South is the minute yorubas (SW) and Igbos (SE) will start their own fight. I'm sure the north will help in liberating SW at the end of the day if it becomes too hard to do alone. We either manage the mess we're in or split along ethnic lines.

they know as well

igbo and yorubas are like oil and water

they can never mix

igbos have independent and a bit silly idealogy, they are sentimental and ethnocentric

yorubas love development and hate sentiment but are dirty

What does the North offer besides food products? I don't need to eat beef, when there is chicken and fish. I enjoy eating rice, but that is produced locally in the East. So tell me, what does the North offer?

Let the North suffer with its desertification. Give them their Sharia nation. Nigeria should have broken up a long time ago.

The North has played a role in the destruction of the unity in my region, but those days are over. Igbos had lived peacefully with our neighbors, Idoma, Edo, Isoko, Ibibio, Ijaw etc. Then Nigeria was created!

go igbos go. We middle belters sure wont miss u. Go back to aba, onitsha etc, all terrible places. We have igbos as tenants and for sure they dont want to go back to east. Check it out, even with all the crisis up north they still dont wanna leave. That says a lot about the east. Horrible horrible place to stay. I served there btw so i know exactly what am talking about.

I don't want to derail this thread with argument as to why it is silly to think that the south cannot exist peacefully.

Throughout Nigeria's history, whatever conflict that broke out in southern Nigeria was directly or indirectly connected to northern rule. Is it the killing of Igbos in parts of the west after the counter-coup led by Murtala Muhammed in 1966? Or it is the Abiola riots after IBB cancelled a fair election? Those are the ONLY trouble in the west. The east has always been calm and peaceful, except the recent MEND uprising, which doesn't target innocent settlers.

Methinks that if we shed Aboki, the south will live happily ever after.  

Heck we are already doing it.

Northerners kill southerners willy nilly.  


Division will solve that PERMANENTLY.  

If Nigeria splits then I will really pity the Northern Christians because they will definitely become second class citizens in the new country. I use to support the splitting of the country but not any more, all Nigerians  have a right to leave where they want, but I think Christians living in the North (Northerners and Southerners) should be watchful and avoid anything that may be used as an excuse by the heartless murderers to attack them. The Government should also be more proactive security wise, I don't know why there wasn't a step-up in military/police presence in most major cities in the North during this election season. Perpetrators that are caught should also be made an example of.

Why ona hate onaself like dis?

emmke:

go igbos go. We middle belters sure wont miss u. Go back to aba, onitsha etc, all terrible places. We have igbos as tenants and for sure they dont want to go back to east. Check it out, even with all the crisis up north they still dont wanna leave. That says a lot about the east. Horrible horrible place to stay. I served there btw so i know exactly what am talking about.

Look at this Hausa-Fulani clown posing as a Middle Belter.

We already know the people of the Middle Belt hate the Hausa more than any other group besides the Igbo.

You will not be missed. I prefer the nice tropical weather of the South compared o the desert wasteland in the North.

playmode:

I dont want all the northerners to leave odua,i can't do without my ALABA RAGO SUYA    and their tasty skinny Ogufe (goat)  .

Like someone mentioned here ,we will still need some of those northern Agricultural imports to sustain the nation.The only northerners i will not allow in odua are the beggars

I esp like that Suya, but hey . . . . If I'm not alive, how am I going to eat it?

True, we need them for agricultural imports. That the numbers of useless Northerners seems to overtake the useful ones. (and I dont mean that in a bad way)

coldhearts:

lets stop deceiving ourselves, there's no such thing as southerners, not sure why some want to hold us hostage to a union that is clearly not working  , must be the oil money  .
The minute we divide into North and South is the minute yorubas (SW) and Igbos (SE) will start their own fight (which is ongoing but subtle). I'm sure the north will help in liberating SW at the end of the day if it becomes too hard to do alone. We either manage the mess we're in or split along ethnic lines.

As if anybody is arguing against this.

Would the SW want to be helped by the North? Who said we can't do it alone? In all honesty, nobody would want stop the SW to stay, so all we our leaders needa do is put their foot down! Although other regions seems to see the SW as a place to be, they'd still want their freedom from the North.

Selfishness is causing the North to want this union. Nobody else want to stay in this union; oil is running out.

I want to be alive to see an Odua republic, I want my children to be proud of their Odua passport. My children will not come into this world to suffer. It's part of my destiny to witness a broken Nigeria.

Time and time again, decade and decade again, we've consistently refused to adhere to solutions to our problems. Its simple. Ndigbo are allergic to Northerners. We'll never be able to live in peace. Ndigbo should withdraw from these dangerous places.

GEJ should ensure the rapid development of Eastern 9ja. I heard he wants to massively industrialise the SE. Let our people come home. My brother and cousin, both doctors in Kaduna working in different areas of the city, they've been telling me of the numerous casualties spread across the north who're mainly southerners. They themselves have been in hiding all through this chaos. And you say One Nigeria? My good friend and his family narrowly escaped the mob who were heading to their house which was nevertheless, set on fire.

And we keep on protecting these evil things, in the south! We can never live in peace with these people.

If I as an Igboman, cannot live in any part of Northern Nigeria as a Nigerian without fearing attacks on me based on my ethnicity then, we should simply stop deceiving ourselves. We do not like each other, its that very simple.

Ileke-IdI:


As if anybody is arguing against this.

Would the SW want to be helped by the North? Who said we can't do it alone? In all honesty, nobody would want stop the SW to stay, so all we our leaders needa do is put their foot down! Although other regions seems to see the SW as a place to be, they'd still want their freedom from the North.

Se;lfishness is causing the North to want this union. Nobody else want to stay in this union; oil is running out.

I support a Southern union. I see good qualities in the SW. People think the Igbo are very different from the Yoruba and vice versa, but that is not true. There are some commonalities amongst the two groups as well as other Southern groups.

We value our lives and stress education. The North is the region that continues to HOLD US BACK!  

Anyhw anyhw, dividing d country also points out numerous advantage- each country wl be establshd,developd veri wel, again,d wild animals wnt ce us again 2 murda, itz beta dat way.

Adonike:

Why ona hate onaself like dis?

Beleive me,it is a love and hate relationship in reality that needs to split into three .

SW needs to go so that it can discipline it's elders for all their wrong decisions first and also repair itself before even thinking of becoming one with anyone. Anyone can support a southern union but the reality is that it will NOT work. The evidence is there however subtle.

Alj Uche:

they know as well

igbo and yorubas are like oil and water

they can never mix

igbos have independent and a bit silly idealogy, they are sentimental and ethnocentric

yorubas love development and hate sentiment but are dirty

This is not true. Dont mind what you read on NL. Have you ever seen them slaughtering one another?

EzeUche__:

I support a Southern union. I see good qualities in the SW. People think the Igbo are very different from the Yoruba and vice versa, but that is not true. There are some commonalities amongst the two groups as well as other Southern groups.

We value our lives and stress education. The North is the region that continues to HOLD US BACK!  

Hmm.

truth be told, there is no Southern Nigeria. A northern NIgeria kills together, but Southern Nigeria continue to fight amongst themselves. You know what I want to see in a Southern Nigeria? Working together to develop a "Southern" Nigeria despite ethnicity.

SE is more worried about SE'ners  in the North, SW is more worried about SW'ners in the North. . . .  see how Nigeria is separated? Tell me, what's stopping the SW/SE/SS/MB leaders from working together to stop the North? You think if there was a South Nigeria, the killing would have extended this far?

Ileke-IdI:

Hmm.

truth be told, there is no Southern Nigeria. A northern NIgeria kills together, but Southern Nigeria continue to fight amongst themselves. You know what I want to see in a Southern Nigeria? Working together to develop a "Southern" Nigeria despite ethnicity.

SE is more worried about SE'ners  in the North, SW is more worried about SW'ners in the North. . . .  see how Nigeria is separated? Tell me, what's stopping the SW/SE/SS/MB leaders from working together to stop the North? You think if there was a South Nigeria, the killing would have extended this far?

The fight is TRIVIAL. We do not kill each other.

When was the last time you heard Southerners killing fellow Southerners over religion or politics?

We are the enlightened and these Northerners are parasites.

in the north we are not ethnocentrical baised

@Alj-Uche, are you by any chance related to Basketmouth or Ali Baba?

The relationship between the Yorubas and Igbos is really a love-hate relationship. But on the whole, both still rather live with each other than any other major ethnic group (its just that they'll never admit it).

I grew up in the east and in all my life there, I've never heard of Igbo/Yoruba conflicts either in the east or the west, truth be told. Whatever anyone reads here on the contrary, isn't painting what really happens in real life. I grew up having yoruba schoolmates and friends and it wasn't something awkward.

The problem are the Northerners especially the Hausa/Fulani/Kanuri. Their medieval mindset coupled with a false interpretation of their religion, is the major problem here.

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Hmm.

truth be told, there is no Southern Nigeria. A northern NIgeria kills together, but Southern Nigeria continue to fight amongst themselves. You know what I want to see in a Southern Nigeria? Working together to develop a "Southern" Nigeria despite ethnicity.

SE is more worried about SE'ners  in the North, SW is more worried about SW'ners in the North. . . .  see how Nigeria is separated? Tell me, what's stopping the SW/SE/SS/MB leaders from working together to stop the North? You think if there was a South Nigeria, the killing would have extended this far?

This is true but some SE don't want to face this reality.

hey eze chuks or whatever, am very much a middle belter and yes u are right, we hate the hausas more than we hate the igbos, and we'd really appreciate it if both tribes leave our region. Go back to ur tropical climate and leave us in peace.

dem_people:

The relationship between the Yorubas and Igbos is really a love-hate relationship. But on the whole, both still rather live with each other than any other major ethnic group (its just that they'll never admit it).

I grew up in the east and in all my life there, I've never heard of Igbo/Yoruba conflicts either in the east or the west, truth be told. Whatever anyone reads here on the contrary, isn't painting what really happens in real life. I grew up having yoruba schoolmates and friends and it wasn't something awkward.

The problem are the Northerners especially the Hausa/Fulani/Kanuri. Their medieval mindset coupled with a false interpretation of their religion, is the major problem here.

That is true. I continue to have Yoruba friends. And I never had a problem with them and they never had problem with me. Sometimes we make stereotypical jokes, but they are simply harmless fun.

You can never joke around with a Northerner.

EzeUche__:

The fight is TRIVIAL. We do not kill each other.

When was the last time you heard Southerners killing fellow Southerners over religion or politics?

We are the enlightened and these Northerners are parasites.

Well, Why should we kill each other?

TBH, Yorubas are peaceful and would rather react as a last option. _{I'd rather kill myself than do anybody any hard (my mouth is sharp tho).}

Our politicians, like in every other region,  are sth else tho (greed and selfishness).

The problem with the SW'ners/SE'ners is pride.  The problem with the North is their born-to-rule mentality (amongst many other reason)

EzeUche__:

That is true. I continue to have Yoruba friends. And I never had a problem with them and they never had problem with me. Sometimes we make stereotypical jokes, but they are simply harmless fun.

You can never joke around with a Northerner.

Never met a Hausa-Fulani person. Would love to converse with them tho.

Where do they usually hang out?

dem_people:

The relationship between the Yorubas and Igbos is really a love-hate relationship. But on the whole, both still rather live with each other than any other major ethnic group (its just that they'll never admit it).

I grew up in the east and in all my life there, I've never heard of Igbo/Yoruba conflicts either in the east or the west, truth be told. Whatever anyone reads here on the contrary, isn't painting what really happens in real life. I grew up having yoruba schoolmates and friends and it wasn't something awkward.

The problem are the Northerners especially the Hausa/Fulani/Kanuri. Their medieval mindset coupled with a false interpretation of their religion, is the major problem here.

I grew up in a yoruba household, full yoruba and i have Igbo and Hausa Friends (went to school with them) and i am telling you the truth, there's no such thing. SW is SW, "Southern" will never work, simple - it is bound to fail. they are not bound to the SE, just like they are not bound to the North.
We can manage this union or call it quits to whatever is holding us all hostage.
Igbos can finally improve their land and build on their business skills with no one chasing them out of their land . yorubas can build themselves and North can do whatever they want with their land.

we

coldhearts:

I grew up in a yoruba household, full yoruba and i have Igbo and Hausa Friends (went to school with them) and i am telling you the truth, there's no such thing. SW is SW, "Southern" will never work, simple - it is bound to fail. they are not bound to the SE, just like they are not bound to the North

Yes. I understand both the aspects of SW and Southern. Even when I was in Uni, the Southerners (Igbo, Yoruba, Bini, Ibibio, Efik etc) kept to themselves and the Northerners (Hausa, Fulani, Kanuri) did same.
My point was just to illustrate the relations between the two dominant ethnic groups in the South. Also, its far more easier and possible though tricky, to have a "workable" south than you'd think possible. I know the mindset of every popular ethnic group within Nigeria so, my views are from such mindsets.

Ileke-IdI:

Never met a Hausa-Fulani person. Would love to converse with them tho.

Where do they usually hang out?

They hang out in my bedroom, COme and meet them there

yorubas have  no problem with our small brodas the yibbos as long as dey recognise seniority and stop trying to compare prick with  their seniors.

Northerners and the World can live without Crude Oil, while Southerners and the World cannot live without Food. By the way, if we are going to divide Nigeria into South/North, please every Nigerian Must be allowed to choose which part he/she would like to join. As for me, I would join my Northerner brothers notwithstanding the fact that  I am a Core Niger Deltan.

iwonbaoko:

yorubas have no problem with our small brodas the yibbos as long as dey recognise seniority and stop trying to compare prick with their seniors.

Little fry, shut up that smelly mouth of yours now. You should be in bed by now.