ekt_bear:

Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Southern Nigeria may will definately further divide. But it seems to me that that is Step Z. Step A seems to be deciding whether you want to continue living in the same country as the core North. Most of ya'll seem to agree that separation would be good.

asdan:

Those calling for the splitting on Nigeria are just misguided,brainwashed and unpatriotic Nigerians who don't appreciate our coexistence.The south can not do without the North likewise the North.I was born in the South and i have seen many [b]conflicts amongst the southerners they do kill too,is not a Northern thing.[/b]Until the religious bigot are stoped from preaching hatred in the Mosque and the churches there is no way we can have a lasting peace in Nigeria .

iwonbaoko:

that is your own formulation of the problem.there are many others.
like i said  earlier  if igbos want to be with the onye ofe manu they must learn how  to respect big bros (de) and desist from gratuitous prick comparisons .we are africans after all

T9ksy:

Abegi, my brother, let's say it as it is jo and damn whose ox is gored.
Do you for a minute believe the yorubas wants to share nationality with igbos who have called us all sorts of unprintable names?
And what was our crime? Because we refused to be colonised by their monkey-looking of a leader.

In the 40's, under the premise of one nigeria, the igbos were ready to fight the yorubas to a standstill over Lagos.
Soon after independence and as a consequence of their arse-licking of mallam's dirty yansh, the igbos marginalised yorubas even on your yoruba soil.
Soon after the civil war commenced, Ojukwu tried to colonise us under the pretext he's coming to liberate us.
And because we didn't fall for his gameplan, the igbos have called us names like "cowards", "back-stabbers", "unreliable", "all-mouth-and-no-action peps" ati bebelo (etc etc).
Hell no, when this dumb contraption split, it splits into its various components.
East for the igbos and west for the yorubas. whoever is landlocked-tough luck.

Like someone mentioned earlier on another thread, yorubas and igbos are like oil and water.
we can never co-habit.

mens dept:

So the labeling of Yoruba as cowards and all-mouth-and -no-action historically is legit, though the Yoruba of today, and a section of their leadership, is just as courageous, serous, and war-like as other southernors, and as a result, Southern rule and limited development as oppossed to 419, Hajj,  military decree, and nonsense.

ekt_bear:

I just figure that our common interest aligns for now. We can then sort out where it doesn't align later. It may turn out that the day the south secedes from Nigeria, the next day the SW secedes from the south. But it seems to me even if this is the outcome you want, then you should still cooperate.

This is just my opinion, though.

@T9ksy: The past is the past, talk is cheap, I don't really care too much about insults. I don't want to use emotion to make decisions. . . I prefer to make them as coldly and rationally as possible. Truth be told, I don't even care whether SW and SE are in the same country or not. What is more important/relevant is, is the SW in the same country as the SS. That is what will ultimately impact the bottom line. Whether SE is with us or not will not improve or worsen our finances. Same is not true for the SS.

I hope you kind of see what I'm saying?

ekt_bear:

@T9ksy: The past is the past, talk is cheap, I don't really care too much about insults. I don't want to use emotion to make decisions. . . I prefer to make them as coldly and rationally as possible. Truth be told, I don't even care whether SW and SE are in the same country or not. What is more important/relevant is, is the SW in the same country as the SS. That is what will ultimately impact the bottom line. Whether SE is with us or not will not improve or worsen our finances. Same is not true for the SS.
I hope you kind of see what I'm saying?

iwonbaoko:

i believe  you are aware that  adolf hitler  is from  what is now austria in other words austria and germany as we know it together constitute deutschland.

afterworld war two the powers that be decided they did not want such a large powerful nation in europe.

that is the realpolitik of nigeria. no one will allow the SS/SE to remain as one nation even if the SS want it unlikely as that is.

T9ksy:

And what makes you think the SS wants to be in the same country as either the SW or the SE?
IMHO, (after decades of ill-treatment) I believe the SS will rather go it alone.
Trust me, SW will survive with or without the SS.

mens dept:

Most Yoruba today actually regret that their leaders did not choose a better route 40 years ago. Are Yoruba not suffering the same thing Igbo and Efik folks are suffering today?  Have you been to Ibadan? Many of those roads havent been upgraded since Awo's time, and fake pastors are as plentiful as those in Warri.

So the labeling of Yoruba as cowards and all-mouth-and -no-action historically is legit, though the Yoruba of today, and a section of their leadership, is just as courageous, serious, and war-like as other southerners, and as a result, Southern rule and limited development as oppossed to 419, Hajj,  military decree, and nonsense.

ekt_bear:

Yeah, I figure that they'd go it alone. That is what makes the most sense money-wise, at least. Anyway, I'd be sad to lose the money, but I don't think it'd be the end of the world. I agree, SW will survive and find other things to do. But in the short term, it might be a painful transition.

obviously u r young Grin.

nne,
even husband and wife rotate.haba!one person  will be on top all the time??

ekt_bear:

No. They were two separate countries. He was just an immigrant from Austria to Germany. Since the ethnic groups in both countries are the same, I don't really think movement across the borders was a big deal at that time. We have Beninoise Yoruba in Yorubaland. Nobody hassles them or views them too much as alien.
Do you have a reference for this? This I doubt. Germany is the most powerful country in Europe right now today, and nobody is trying to partition/weaken them. If they wanted to merge with Austria, they could. . . nobody would block it.
Who would stop them? If both sides want to get married, who is going to stop the wedding?

T9ksy:

And what do u termed as "better route" for the yorubas, 4 decades ago?
That we should have followed Ojukwu fight a war of his own making knowing fully well the huge loss we are about to suffer.
And at the end of it all, the best we can hope for is becoming a colony of the new biafran nation.

Here we go again with you guys at the slightest chance, calling us a bad name just so you can hang us.
As recent as 1840, the yoruba "cowards" stopped the jihadist at the battle of oshogbo.
HISTORICALLY, the yorubas had a formidable empire which strectches as far as benin republic. the borders of Ghana.
In all my years of historical research, I have never come across a group of people who are war-shy creating such a large empire.
Your fore fathers who were brimming full of intestinal fortitude, pray tell us, what empire did they form with their obduracy?

naijangel7:

@iwonbaoko, Your point is? Explain how rotation aids development please and stop veering off a point you raised. what has age got to do with it, old man?

Ileke-IdI:

And Moses said "Let my people go"

Onlytruth:

The return of ShangoThor!

Most of the posters here are kids.

Most of them don't even bother to think through their posts. They lack a sense of history and the maturity to analyse the issues accurately.

Some are "adult kids" who plan the future without examining the past.

James Hadley Chase says that a wise man knows his limits because everyone has one.

For adults only please.

Ileke-IdI:

And Moses said "Let my people go"